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bom chickawawa
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 10:53:00 -
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What ship do you think is the ultimate solo level 4 mission ship?
what ship has enough tank to not have to warp out and enough dps to blast there way through them as quick as possiable.
please post fit tactics and any other info u feel is relevant
Include price aswell just for the lolz |

Creh Ester
Presence under Leisure
2
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Posted - 2012.03.18 11:28:00 -
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I believe rewards from L4s are automatically adjusted according to the average time it takes for players to finish them, so it really isn't in my interest (or anyones) to help people with "as fast as possible".
There are plenty of ships, including my Cormorant, that will do the rest. If "flown".
The grey drudgers otherwise seem to prefer Macharel and CNR. |

Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.03.18 12:28:00 -
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bom chickawawa wrote:What ship do you think is the ultimate solo level 4 mission ship?
General: Machariel Vargur (if you want to loot/salvage)
vs. Sanshas&Blood Raiders: Nightmare
vs. Guristas/Angels/Serpentis/EoM/Mercs: Tengu
for AFK missioning: Rattlesnake
Of course, there are alternatives that are much cheaper and not all that inferior. |

Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.18 13:08:00 -
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Maelstrom is pretty good. And cheap. |

captain sparro
untaught Suddenly Spaceships.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.18 19:34:00 -
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Basic mission ships are pretty mutch mach's, nightmares and maruders in general witch all have pretty decent tank and dps, but if we are talking T1 i think ships as abaddon, raven, mega and mealstrom is the best choises depending on you race spec. The mealstrom is prolly the best og the lot i would say, it can vary in dmg types, have defensive bonuses (shield boost amount) and have decent dps on the side. raven is allso popular, maybe mostly for the low skill requirement, but it is slow compared to the remaining 3. But to make it shorter.
My preferance would prolly be. -mach -nightmare -vargur -golem -paladin/kronos -mealstrom -any of the remaining BS's
For de record, tengu is allso a decent ship, i just prefer the big guns ;) |

Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial
644
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Posted - 2012.03.18 21:00:00 -
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IMHO: Fastest mission completion (but requires brain to be engaged) - machariel (possibly nightmare also) and vargur. Safest AFK mission runner (not necessarily needing the engagement of brain) - rattlesnake. Very safe (but needs some brain engaged) - golem. Most versatile all-rounder (can be used with brain engaged or without much brain engaged) - tengu. Most interesting (needs a lot of brain engaged) - Any assault frigate, or pirate frigate.
We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
459
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Posted - 2012.03.18 21:29:00 -
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Fastest would be the Machariel or the Vindicator. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Fynen
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:21:00 -
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That question is very hard to answer. For one, it depends on your skillset or your willingness to invest time in new skills. For another, it depends on the mission, your enemies there and what you want to get out of it.
Since you obviously have to decide on your own what to do about your skills i'll look at the missions now. I prefer a kronos myself, but any marauder would do. Marauders are specifically designed for missionrunners. You safe ammo because you will get 4 damage highslots with 100% marauder damage bonus instead of 7 or 8. That leaves another 3 utility highslots to use for drone range extender, tractor beams and/or salvager.
Other than the marauders, there are the faction and pirate faction bs. Some of those are really nice to fly in missions. The machariel or the nightmare are well known for their effectiveness with a decent skillset. But you will get good dps out of most other as well.
Remember: First increase your tank until you are comfortable with it. For Armor Tanks like the Kronos that could mean a Core or Centus X-Type Repper with three X-Type Hardener. Depending on the mission you can exchange a hardener for a damage mod and vice versa. But a dualrepper setup of t2 modules will do as well, just with less space for damage mods. Second, increase your dps as much as you can. That can be done with faction modules, faction ammo, skills or even hardwirings. Every percent more means a bit less time used for a mission. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:08:00 -
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I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems. |

stoicfaux
790
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:11:00 -
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The "ultimate solo level 4 mission ship" would have to be something like the Tengu for the simple reason that it is viable in low or null sec.
For high-sec missions, I would have to say that the Vargur is probably the "ultimate solo level 4 mission ship" because it can essentially match damage to NPC, has a very easy tank, has lots o' gank, and is pretty stress free to fly. (Stress free = minimal maneuvering required, good tank, and NPCs die easily.) If you don't care about stress, then the MWD Mach is probably the ultimate ship due to it's agility and speed: travel time is significant, the ability to close rapidly means minimizing DPS loss to falloff, you can use just one ship (no need to switch to a fast ship for things like recon 1-3,) and it makes blitzing that much faster.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial
644
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Posted - 2012.03.19 00:15:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems.
LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |

OfBalance
Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:05:00 -
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Substantia Nigra wrote:OfBalance wrote:I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems. LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff.
I think you're mistaking me taking a well-meaning pot-shot at someone suggesting a full x-type ship is a good idea for ravenous griefer braggadocio. It takes serious time and, more importantly, effort to gank players in highsec, i'll stick to hazing by other methods. |

Conu Leonida
Ex 24.7 v3
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 09:32:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:OfBalance wrote:I fully support the call for more loot pinata marauders and faction bs in mission hub systems. LOL, of course ya gonna get the obligatory wannabe piwate in any thread of this kind. They not much to worry about though ... full of bigtalk and yo ho ho, and not much of an actual threat to people unless you stray into lowsec, or do some really stoopid stuff. I think you're mistaking me taking a well-meaning pot-shot at someone suggesting a full x-type ship is a good idea for ravenous griefer braggadocio. It takes serious time and, more importantly, effort to gank players in highsec, i'll stick to hazing by other methods.
There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work? |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
251
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Posted - 2012.03.19 10:08:00 -
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I think that the ultimate level 4 ship is the good ship Friendship. |

Outlawd
Quantum Anomaly Corporation Luna Sanguinem
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:33:00 -
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Power of 2;
Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission. |

nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:36:00 -
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Outlawd wrote:Power of 2;
Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission.
talos with blasters ^^ |

Outlawd
Quantum Anomaly Corporation Luna Sanguinem
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:38:00 -
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nahjustwarpin wrote:Outlawd wrote:Power of 2;
Sentry (with drones on assist) Dominix & Nightmare/Proteus/Tengu - switch dependant on mission. talos with blasters ^^
Touch+¬
I haven't tried it yet.
Reasoning being, some missions you get "hidden" pockets, that like to warp new rats in, which mess up my world by targetting the ship... I don't want them to target. So, having something with a bit of a tank is nice. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2012.03.19 16:06:00 -
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Conu Leonida wrote:There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work? The venerable Paladin of Cat is a shining example to us all.
Gorki Andropov wrote:Friendship.
Outlawd wrote:Power of 2; In EVE, these are one in the same.  |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
253
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Posted - 2012.03.19 19:41:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Conu Leonida wrote:There was a thread with a ship with almost 100% Cormack's fit... would that work? The venerable Paladin of Cat is a shining example to us all. Gorki Andropov wrote:Friendship. Outlawd wrote:Power of 2; In EVE, these are one in the same. 
You mean "one and the same", surely? But yes - in EVE this is true. However, I was actually making the point that flying with other people (regardless of the situation) is nearly always more entertaining than grinding along solo.  |

OfBalance
Caldari State
188
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:05:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:You mean "one and the same", surely? But yes - in EVE this is true. However, I was actually making the point that flying with other people (regardless of the situation) is nearly always more entertaining than grinding along solo. 
To quote one Shawn Spencer, "I've heard it both ways." And that's as close to a typo admission as you'll get from me. 
Anyway, yes flying with others is more fun, but the observation being made was that most players opt for the safty of alts rather than the companionship of friends who might backstab them and will almost certainly cut into their profits to the point where "bring friends," is almost synonymous with "sub more accounts."  |

harringa
GOOD FELLAS Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 20:32:00 -
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A raven state issue would do the job  |

Zaltone
Lokresh Industries
4
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Posted - 2012.04.03 00:28:00 -
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Lvl 4 missions ship for courier missions
[Impel, lvl4] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II
[empty med slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Cargohold Optimization I Medium Cargohold Optimization I
The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
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Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.03 00:53:00 -
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Mach because it saves so much on travel time which L4s tend to have quite abit of. If travel time was less of a factor I would say CNR but the difference is probably minimal. |

Zircon Dasher
113
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Posted - 2012.04.03 01:59:00 -
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The Ultimate L4 solo ship is whatever one the guy who is feeding you tax money is in. |

Nikolai Vodkov
Pro Synergy
26
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Posted - 2012.04.03 02:57:00 -
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Nightmare. Run level 4 missions? Double your profits!Let us loot your missions and give you 45% of it's value.Join channel: "Pro Synergy" to find out more. |

Bodessia
Saiph Industries SRS.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:16:00 -
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Train up for a tengu, you will never regret it! |

SabotNoob
Sabot Industries
43
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:00:00 -
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Nightmare for EM missions Tengu for Kinetic missions
I specialized in both. You don't have to spend time changing your fit to match the mission damage. You just change the ship! It's ready to go that way. Yes it takes a long time to train both, but it's worth it. |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
281
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:09:00 -
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The good ship Friendship |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
281
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:10:00 -
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Alternatively, My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I |

Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
130
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:20:00 -
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Nightmare all the way. multi crystals out to 100k cheap faction ammo that lasts for ages. over 1100dps
Mach is a close second. better for Angel missions over a nightmare, but faction ammo is expensive and all the dps is in falloff
Tengu for low and null. even with angel missions cannot match a nightmare for raw dps
forget a vindy. Looks fantastic to an ETF warrior but you have to be very close to get that DPS on the target.
CNR is also a very nice ship for low SP players
I fly all of these ships and dont base my decisions on ETF Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |

Neesha Marinn
Sexy Goose
0
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Posted - 2012.04.04 07:33:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote: I fly all of these ships and dont base my decisions on ETF
ETF? Must be a new program.
Anyway, tengu all the way for me. Its just good allround. Tanks pretty much everything, it might not always be the fastest but it definately is one easy going ship to run missions in.
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Pookoko
Sigma Sagittarii Inc.
32
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Posted - 2012.04.04 08:48:00 -
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While I do love my Tengu, I do not agree that it's the fastest ship. Against Angels Mach is faster, against Blood and Sansha Nightmare is faster, against Serpentis Kronos/Nightmare is faster. I own all these ships and Tengu is best when I want to blitz, but when I'm looking to kill all rats there are faster ships. |

I Accidentally YourShip
Amarrian Parasylum Brushie Brushie Brushie
157
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Posted - 2012.04.04 17:51:00 -
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It's obviously different based on the area that you mission in but if you had a choice, I'd take Nightmare (or Paladin) in Amarr space over Machariel (or Vargur) in Minmatar space myself. Faction ammo is usable to great effect, not necessary to use T2 ammo to push damage projection out to a reasonable level when fighting farther rats, and moving isn't even necessary.
Even with both using faction ammo, the Nightmare outdpses the Mach starting at 25km, and while there are quite a few missions where rats start close to optimal there are also missions where they do not, which means you need to take the time to get to the rats. Barrage is an answer yes, but not only does it do less dps even at maximum, but it only starts outdpsing multifreq at 70km, which does not even matter with the Mach's 77km lock range, and that is easily answered with ultraviolet etc. WIth the dps gap, and the damage projection difference I would think that the Nightmare is strictly superior not only against EM weak but thermal weak rats as well. Due to a lack of kinetic focused ammunition I would also wager that for kinetic rats with a secondary EM or thermal weakness the nightmare is at least on par. That leaves just angels and minmatar as a potential situation for Mach superiority. The damage projection difference is very important, even with an MWD the travel time on a Machariel is not negligible
I've been a proponent of projectile superiority for some time now but taking a hard look at the differences between these systems I think I would recommend flying a Nightmare anywhere outside of Minmatar space, and even then it's not that big of a deal to either decline a few angels missions or even just do them with a laser platform, the dps is so high. |

Herr Ronin
ISN Management
21
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Posted - 2012.04.04 20:15:00 -
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bom chickawawa wrote:What ship do you think is the ultimate solo level 4 mission ship?
what ship has enough tank to not have to warp out and enough dps to blast there way through them as quick as possiable.
please post fit tactics and any other info u feel is relevant
Include price aswell just for the lolz
MWD Machariel with t2 800mm's
Warp into site, Keep at range allways, Pulse your MWD and you are golden. |

Hans Momaki
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.04 22:05:00 -
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Creh Ester wrote:
If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.
A 10 billion isk navy- domi might tank even the hardest lv 4. But, who on earth would spend 10 bil on a domi, lol.
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Staldan
Surrender Dorothy Bipolar Stability
0
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Posted - 2012.04.04 22:38:00 -
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Golem hands down for Caldari.
Nothing better to automate isk making.
Warp in. Sit still. Let missiles / torps do their job and salvage while you go.
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I Accidentally YourShip
Amarrian Parasylum Brushie Brushie Brushie
160
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:44:00 -
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Staldan wrote:Golem hands down for Caldari.
Nothing better to automate isk making.
Warp in. Sit still. Let missiles / torps do their job and salvage while you go.
Except for all the target painter micromanaging. No thanks, worst marauder hands down. Kronos beats it in Caldari space, easy. |

I Accidentally YourShip
Amarrian Parasylum Brushie Brushie Brushie
160
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Posted - 2012.04.04 23:46:00 -
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Gorki Andropov wrote:Alternatively, My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Not sure if troll or bad.
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Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.05 05:24:00 -
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Hans Momaki wrote:Creh Ester wrote:
If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.
A 10 billion isk navy- domi might tank even the hardest lv 4. But, who on earth would spend 10 bil on a domi, lol.
lolwut? Learn to eft warrior
[Drake, Mission Tank]
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile [Empty High slot]
Invulnerability Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
70 million, 1300 DPS tank against Angels, (30 minutes, so basically cap-stable) AE4 bonus room puts out around 1050 dps and is one of the highest dps L4 rooms, so yeah you can be webbed and painted to hell and back and you can still take a **** halfway through =P |

I Accidentally YourShip
Amarrian Parasylum Brushie Brushie Brushie
160
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Posted - 2012.04.05 08:31:00 -
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Dato Koppla wrote:Hans Momaki wrote:Creh Ester wrote:
If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.
A 10 billion isk navy- domi might tank even the hardest lv 4. But, who on earth would spend 10 bil on a domi, lol. lolwut? Learn to eft warrior [Drake, Mission Tank] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile [Empty High slot] Invulnerability Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x5 70 million, 1300 DPS tank against Angels, (30 minutes, so basically cap-stable) AE4 bonus room puts out around 1050 dps and is one of the highest dps L4 rooms, so yeah you can be webbed and painted to hell and back and you can still take a **** halfway through =P
Going to need to with the amount of time it would take to clear the bonus room with that crap. Not even one BCU fit.
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Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.05 09:40:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:Hans Momaki wrote:Creh Ester wrote:
If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.
A 10 billion isk navy- domi might tank even the hardest lv 4. But, who on earth would spend 10 bil on a domi, lol. lolwut? Learn to eft warrior [Drake, Mission Tank] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile [Empty High slot] Invulnerability Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x5 70 million, 1300 DPS tank against Angels, (30 minutes, so basically cap-stable) AE4 bonus room puts out around 1050 dps and is one of the highest dps L4 rooms, so yeah you can be webbed and painted to hell and back and you can still take a **** halfway through =P Going to need to with the amount of time it would take to clear the bonus room with that crap. Not even one BCU fit.
Yeah obviously, I would never run something like this, I was merely implying that 10billion on a domi just to tank a room is a ridiculous amount, if you really wanted to you can do it in a Draek. I would never do something like this, it's straight up ******** as you want as much deeps and as little tank. |

YaSiS
The Tetragrammaton.
1
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Posted - 2012.04.11 19:57:00 -
[42] - Quote
I say Kronos for Caldari space. 917 damage , and with 158 drones damage it does more then you need :) |

Sebrefa
Magellan Corporation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.11 22:12:00 -
[43] - Quote
Substantia Nigra wrote:IMHO: Fastest mission completion (but requires brain to be engaged) - machariel (possibly nightmare also) and vargur. Safest AFK mission runner (not necessarily needing the engagement of brain) - rattlesnake. Very safe (but needs some brain engaged) - golem. Most versatile all-rounder (can be used with brain engaged or without much brain engaged) - tengu. Most interesting (needs a lot of brain engaged) - Any assault frigate, or pirate frigate.
Assault frigs can do enough damage to run 4s? Also whats the general concensus on Proteus? |

Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.04.11 23:10:00 -
[44] - Quote
Gorki Andropov wrote:I think that the ultimate level 4 ship is the good ship Friendship.
As opposed to the good ship Lollipop... |

stoicfaux
944
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Posted - 2012.04.12 00:13:00 -
[45] - Quote
Katja Faith wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:I think that the ultimate level 4 ship is the good ship Friendship. As opposed to the good ship Lollipop... Pfffft. I raise you pansies one Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Neesha Marinn
Sexy Goose
1
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Posted - 2012.04.12 10:06:00 -
[46] - Quote
Staldan wrote:Golem hands down for Caldari.
Nothing better to automate isk making.
Warp in. Sit still. Let missiles / torps do their job and salvage while you go.
Disagree.
Big clunky ship, slow as fuzz, and getting jammed in caldari space with that thing happens way too often to my tastes.
Flew it, pimped it, disliked it, sold it. Timespan of one week.
Tengu <-- GÖÑ |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
297
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Posted - 2012.04.12 18:14:00 -
[47] - Quote
I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Not sure if troll or bad.
You are either too young a player or too uninformed about EVE to get that. |

Hans Momaki
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.13 00:21:00 -
[48] - Quote
Dato Koppla wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Dato Koppla wrote:Hans Momaki wrote:Creh Ester wrote:
If you're looking for something that will tank the entire room indefinitely, when you're webbed and scrammed, I don't think such ship exists. Not for the biggest rooms.
A 10 billion isk navy- domi might tank even the hardest lv 4. But, who on earth would spend 10 bil on a domi, lol. lolwut? Learn to eft warrior [Drake, Mission Tank] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Heavy Missile [Empty High slot] Invulnerability Field II Explosion Dampening Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x5 70 million, 1300 DPS tank against Angels, (30 minutes, so basically cap-stable) AE4 bonus room puts out around 1050 dps and is one of the highest dps L4 rooms, so yeah you can be webbed and painted to hell and back and you can still take a **** halfway through =P Going to need to with the amount of time it would take to clear the bonus room with that crap. Not even one BCU fit. Yeah obviously, I would never run something like this, I was merely implying that 10billion on a domi just to tank a room is a ridiculous amount, if you really wanted to you can do it in a Draek. I would never do something like this, it's straight up ******** as you want as much deeps and as little tank.
Lol, highest lv4 dps Output is something arround 3,5k RAW dmg. Its Called EA 5/5. Nuff said, scrub. |

Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.13 01:59:00 -
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Yeah well you could outfit a tengu for less than a billion and get enough tank because the speed tank would just make the battleship dps lulzy, but the dps will never remain that high for long because you're normally killing stuff, tanking whole rooms is just not the way its meant to be. |

kratos candre
Southern Pride
3
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Posted - 2012.04.13 04:47:00 -
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Nighthawk with deadspace active tank, full crystal set, t2 heavies. I have yet to find a mission i haven't tanked. |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.04.13 05:11:00 -
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kratos candre wrote:Nighthawk with deadspace active tank, full crystal set, t2 heavies. I have yet to find a mission i haven't tanked. Chainsaw with 50 horse powers, titanium chain, NOS injection. I have yet to find a slice of toast i can't cut in half. |

Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
31
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Posted - 2012.04.13 05:23:00 -
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das tengu In pace requiescat |

Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.16 09:26:00 -
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Sebrefa wrote:Substantia Nigra wrote:IMHO: Fastest mission completion (but requires brain to be engaged) - machariel (possibly nightmare also) and vargur. Safest AFK mission runner (not necessarily needing the engagement of brain) - rattlesnake. Very safe (but needs some brain engaged) - golem. Most versatile all-rounder (can be used with brain engaged or without much brain engaged) - tengu. Most interesting (needs a lot of brain engaged) - Any assault frigate, or pirate frigate.
Assault frigs can do enough damage to run 4s? Also whats the general concensus on Proteus?
I won't say much for the proteus except that it's the best of the T3s for drones. Take from that what you will.
Assault ships, however, definitely do do enough damage to handle L4s. I was able to solo L4s in a drake pulling barely 250 DPS and the ishkur can, with nearly but not quite maximum skills, push 350 or so DPS and the Enyo can push 400. Other assault ships will very and those are with setups that pretty much require that you shield tank the ships, but it's do'able from a DPS perspective.
On the flip side the Nemesis, for example, can lay down 400 DPS (at maximum skills, no relevant implants) at around 110-120km with Inferno Javelin torpedoes and T2 BCSes. Not what one would consider the ideal setup either, but potentially fun if you can keep at that range.
Of course at this point you're probably doing this for fun and mission time isn't a big factor. In that case I'd probably just use several T2 ships. I'd use the stealth bomber to take out the (battle) cruisers and any short-range (read that as machariel) battleships, and until NPC destroyers get buffed them as well, probably use something like an interceptor to take out frigates and spider drones if I'm feeling suicidal or an assault ship if I'm not, and then use an assault ship or the stealth bomber for the remaining battleships.
Of course truth be told if I were doing this stuff for fun I'd just use a deimos or curse.  |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Robotics Darkmatter Initiative
514
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Posted - 2012.04.19 16:17:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:
forget a vindy. Looks fantastic to an ETF warrior but you have to be very close to get that DPS on the target.
You don't fit Blasters.
Rail Vindis work, if I didn't salvage everything and thus fly a Rail Kronos I'd be flying one. Enjoy your gaming.
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Celeritas 5k
Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
30
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Posted - 2012.04.19 18:39:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:
forget a vindy. Looks fantastic to an ETF warrior but you have to be very close to get that DPS on the target.
You don't fit Blasters. Rail Vindis work, if I didn't salvage everything and thus fly a Rail Kronos I'd be flying one.
Yeah, rail vindi is awesome. Far outperforms the tengu, unless you're blitzing.
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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2012.04.19 23:38:00 -
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Bodessia wrote:Train up for a tengu, you will never regret it!
Dude your face. |

Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.04.20 00:14:00 -
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Machariel. |

Tenchuu Khaan
x-instinct
1
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Posted - 2012.04.20 12:23:00 -
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If you fly them like me as a pastime activity, Tengu. |
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