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Stab Wounds Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.22 20:55:00 - [31] Originally by: El'Tar Originally by: El'Tar or delete em from the fibbin game, alon with falocns this fail alt for got to change characters
Azraelion Nerevar Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.07.22 23:30:00 - [32] Originally by: Zaqar He's telling us about putting his genitals on men's faces, in order to prove he isn't homosexual, of course. the thread has been won.
Zephyr Rengate dearg doom	Posted - 2008.07.22 23:43:00 - [33] Garmon's wife flys a nano ship. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...
Nexus Kinnon SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.23 00:05:00 - [34] posting in a thread where the OP has suffered severe head trauma
Gimpb	Posted - 2008.07.23 00:05:00 - [35] The biggest thing wrong with AFs is they don't fly like frigates, dooming HACs to the same fate would be quite a shame. For example, the ishkur is generally considered to be one of the stronger AFs but the sentinel makes it look like a POS by comparison and the sentinel isn't even that popular. A better solution would be to give AFs the frigate speed stats they should rightfully have thus providing effective hac tacklers (inties are too squishy) and making the nano game more accessible with the inclusion of another class of ships. AFs really should be able to tackle HACs, imagine if T1 frigs weren't fast enough to tackle T1 cruisers, how screwed up would that be?
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.07.23 00:12:00 - [36] Originally by: Gimpb The biggest thing wrong with AFs is they don't fly like frigates, dooming HACs to the same fate would be quite a shame. For example, the ishkur is generally considered to be one of the stronger AFs but the sentinel makes it look like a POS by comparison and the sentinel isn't even that popular. A better solution would be to give AFs the frigate speed stats they should rightfully have thus providing effective hac tacklers (inties are too squishy) and making the nano game more accessible with the inclusion of another class of ships. AFs really should be able to tackle HACs, imagine if T1 frigs weren't fast enough to tackle T1 cruisers, how screwed up would that be? The thing is I'm not sure whether the problem is that AF's fly too slow or HAC's just fly too fast. Maybe make having lower sig radius slightly better and start capping top speeds. Rather than making AF's fly faster I'd actually just rather see HAC's fly slower...
Gimpb	Posted - 2008.07.23 00:23:00 - [37] Originally by: Beltantis Torrence The thing is I'm not sure whether the problem is that AF's fly too slow or HAC's just fly too fast. Maybe make having lower sig radius slightly better and start capping top speeds. Rather than making AF's fly faster I'd actually just rather see HAC's fly slower... The AF's MWD speed is somewhere around that of BCs, that seems pretty screwed up, does it not? I think one of the core ideas in eve is that each ship class is designed to generally be able to outrun that which it cannot kill at its own tech level. Cruisers are two classes larger and one tech level lower than AFs yet can run them down--that's completely out of line with this ideal.
Terianna Eri Amarr Terianna Eri Corp	Posted - 2008.07.23 00:35:00 - [38] Originally by: Stab Wounds Originally by: El'Tar Originally by: El'Tar or delete em from the fibbin game, alon with falocns this fail alt for got to change characters Knowing El'Tar / Garmon (? i think), I'm pretty sure that that was deliberate. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Arken Tor Fafaru Power	Posted - 2008.07.23 02:29:00 - [39] A possible cure for nano ships would be a tweaking in how webs are working : imagine if the web max range ( or its fall off ) was doctored by a speed*signature radius multiple . Interceptors class ships wouldn't be penalized since they got a low signature , but cruisers , HAC , BC or even BS would be more heavily sanctioned . It's just a random thought but might work if properly balanced .
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.23 02:31:00 - [40] they should introduce small and medium webby drones too also falcons suck

Jim Raynor Caldari Shinra	Posted - 2008.07.23 03:50:00 - [41] mass might be an issue thought i think its mostly the polycarb rigs, they broke eve ------ I'll make a sig later.
Beltantis Torrence	Posted - 2008.07.23 06:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Gimpb Originally by: Beltantis Torrence The thing is I'm not sure whether the problem is that AF's fly too slow or HAC's just fly too fast. Maybe make having lower sig radius slightly better and start capping top speeds. Rather than making AF's fly faster I'd actually just rather see HAC's fly slower... The AF's MWD speed is somewhere around that of BCs, that seems pretty screwed up, does it not? I think one of the core ideas in eve is that each ship class is designed to generally be able to outrun that which it cannot kill at its own tech level. Cruisers are two classes larger and one tech level lower than AFs yet can run them down--that's completely out of line with this ideal. You're missing my point. You can either look at it like the problem is that T2 AF's go too slow or you can look at it like T2 HAC's go too fast. Its just a perspective switch. I tend to think HAC's go too fast. If you slowed down HAC's you wouldn't need to speed up AF's ;). I think an AF should go a bit slower than a T1 frigate that's speed fitted, but not as slow as a HAC.
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.23 06:57:00 - [43] Originally by: El'Tar or delete em from the fibbin game, alon with falocns This,TBH ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Desu Sigs
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.23 07:25:00 - [44] Also to the OP, you wanna nerf nanos and at the same time the one aspect that makes a tanked HAC better in some sort than a tanked BC. Are you dumb?
R3dSh1ft Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.07.23 09:11:00 - [45] I fly nanos because its good in roaming gangs. But tbh, I don't want to fly nanos the rest of my eve career. There needs to be a fix which stops nano cruisers from being the i-win button. Because frankly its getting very boring. Variety and strength of tactics is what makes eve fun, not zip zap zooming around because you can afford polycarbons. The op's post is a symptom of this sickness... DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine
El'Tar Caldari Monkey Madness.	Posted - 2008.07.23 09:15:00 - [46] agreed when u see some 1 flyin a faclon u shud go to deir hous with a slege hammer and bash their face in imo, and eat the corpse then go "hahahaah" at the family, (ingame on tranquility server of eve online) ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.23 13:48:00 - [47] Originally by: Euriti Edited by: Euriti on 22/07/2008 19:51:17 Edited by: Euriti on 22/07/2008 19:50:37 Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Rennion People would just stop flying HAC's except for vagabonds when roaming and eagles for anti support in fleets sometimes. Basically it is a shitty idea. HAC's worked like this before teir2 battlecruisers where introduced, now if you want to tank and gank and for some reason you are not using a battleship you fly a teir2 BC. Many hacs are viable without nano. Those that arent need a fix, but its no excuse to keep the nano age. OP, you seem quite dumb and so does your ship fits. /popcorn Ok your comments except for the last one are atleast near competent. people wouldn't stop flying hacs just cuz they dont zippy zip. I think you say it yourself that becuase some of the HACS aren't viable nanoed then its still not a reason to keep all the other hacs broken. And yes im DUMB!!! but please tell me what "ship fits" seem dumb... becuase it seems to me that I very rarelly get flamed due to my ship fitting options, when posted on the forums... actually it seems back at the begining of REV 2 I posted a Hams setup for the Drake which is becoming quite popular now...Then it got the old "missles suck for PVP" and "the drake is meant to be passive tanked". I have posted logistics setups for the Domi which I am still getting reports of other gangs out in 0.0 and lowsec using as support. So to you little boy I say this... If your gonna try and flame, first grow some nuts and come up with a good insult. Then look in the mirrior and accept the fact that you call me dumb becuase the images of the short bus rolling along still dance in your head... Im sure you were one of those kids that used to get picked on... your so lame.
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.23 13:51:00 - [48] Originally by: R3dSh1ft I fly nanos because its good in roaming gangs. But tbh, I don't want to fly nanos the rest of my eve career. There needs to be a fix which stops nano cruisers from being the i-win button. Because frankly its getting very boring. Variety and strength of tactics is what makes eve fun, not zip zap zooming around because you can afford polycarbons. The op's post is a symptom of this sickness... This is the truth.. im a product of the sickness... I have recentelly decided that my nano vaga needed to be put to rest. It was fun until I started seeing everything zoom zoom. And another note I think OD and nano's need fitting requirements, aswell as auxillary rigs need to be nerfed, there almost as good as poly's
Crellion Art of War	Posted - 2008.07.23 13:57:00 - [49] Pffffttt The solution for nano hacs is to bring back the old nanofibers... if you can do 5.5km/s in a Dominix you pown all the Istarz!!! WOOT!!!! oh and I accuse the OP of being a whiner. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.23 14:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Crellion Pffffttt The solution for nano hacs is to bring back the old nanofibers... if you can do 5.5km/s in a Dominix you pown all the Istarz!!! WOOT!!!! oh and I accuse the OP of being a whiner. QFT

Trigos Trilobi X-Fire	Posted - 2008.07.23 14:10:00 - [51] Originally by: Beltantis Torrence You're missing my point. You can either look at it like the problem is that T2 AF's go too slow or you can look at it like T2 HAC's go too fast. Its just a perspective switch. I tend to think HAC's go too fast. If you slowed down HAC's you wouldn't need to speed up AF's ;). I think an AF should go a bit slower than a T1 frigate that's speed fitted, but not as slow as a HAC. It's not just a perspective switch since there's also other ship classes to consider besides HAC vs AF. In my opinion one of the reasons why AFs are perceived weak is the fact that they don't have any special role, and therefore directly compete with t1 cruisers, which are typically atleast as powerful if not more powerful, and cheaper; two main reasons for this are the fact that AFs are as slow as t1 cruisers and stupidly overpowered webs that cover most small weapon engangement ranges and therefore negate the sig advantage (and which would also unfortunately mostly negate the speed advantage for the most part if AFs had one). HACs, following the similar 'assault'-design are also just beefed up cruisers, and directly compete with t1 battlecruisers. Due to webs generally only reaching bit over 10km and the weapons on hacs typically having range in excess of this, hacs can utilize the speed and agility advantage they have over battlecruisers to provide a slightly different approach to combat than battlecruisers, but if you remove that advantage (or introduce 20km webs), you'll be soon looking at an exactly identical situation as with AFs, hacs being a novelty item with very little practical/cost-effective utility in PvP. I personally think most of the speed-related problems (and that's a large scope of problems, not just nanocruisers) in the game are a result of the poor webbing mechanics, and devs should focus their efforts on fixing the cause, not the symptoms. Building on a bad foundation brings just more problems in the future.
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.23 17:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: Euriti Edited by: Euriti on 22/07/2008 19:51:17 Edited by: Euriti on 22/07/2008 19:50:37 Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Rennion People would just stop flying HAC's except for vagabonds when roaming and eagles for anti support in fleets sometimes. Basically it is a shitty idea. HAC's worked like this before teir2 battlecruisers where introduced, now if you want to tank and gank and for some reason you are not using a battleship you fly a teir2 BC. Many hacs are viable without nano. Those that arent need a fix, but its no excuse to keep the nano age. OP, you seem quite dumb and so does your ship fits. /popcorn Ok your comments except for the last one are atleast near competent. people wouldn't stop flying hacs just cuz they dont zippy zip. I think you say it yourself that becuase some of the HACS aren't viable nanoed then its still not a reason to keep all the other hacs broken. And yes im DUMB!!! but please tell me what "ship fits" seem dumb... becuase it seems to me that I very rarelly get flamed due to my ship fitting options, when posted on the forums... actually it seems back at the begining of REV 2 I posted a Hams setup for the Drake which is becoming quite popular now...Then it got the old "missles suck for PVP" and "the drake is meant to be passive tanked". I have posted logistics setups for the Domi which I am still getting reports of other gangs out in 0.0 and lowsec using as support. So to you little boy I say this... If your gonna try and flame, first grow some nuts and come up with a good insult. Then look in the mirrior and accept the fact that you call me dumb becuase the images of the short bus rolling along still dance in your head... Im sure you were one of those kids that used to get picked on... your so lame. I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines.
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.23 17:36:00 - [53] Originally by: Euriti I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines. Ok so you admit to being stupid.. and flaming. QFT... your just making yourself look even stupidier than you already do. There was no where in here I whined... I simply said I found a cure for a disease. IMO someone should be giving me an award... not a hassle. Clueless?? your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! I can now see why you get ignored.
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:08:00 - [54] Who cares, nanos cannot siege a pos anyway. Devs certainly don't.
Corduroy Rab Xenocidal Uprising	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:23:00 - [55] Edited by: Corduroy Rab on 23/07/2008 18:26:52 Solution to "nanos": give out speeding tickets Solution to afk cloakers: give out parking tickets edit
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:37:00 - [56] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: Euriti I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines. Ok so you admit to being stupid.. and flaming. QFT... your just making yourself look even stupidier than you already do. There was no where in here I whined... I simply said I found a cure for a disease. IMO someone should be giving me an award... not a hassle. Clueless?? your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! I can now see why you get ignored. I don't admit to being stupid, what about actually reading what I said? You are making yourself look stupid by proposing this stupid idea on this forum. Now you move on to flaming my grammar while your own is far from perfect either. I don't anywhere in my thread boast about my grammar and how leet it is. But if we have to move along these silly tracks then I'll happily bold your spelling and grammar mistakes in your above post to see the irony of your own flames. Let's move on to your idea. You want to make speeding tickets for going too fast in space. Why? Does it pose a hazard in traffic for people? No it doesn't. This is pointless.
El'Tar Caldari Monkey Madness.	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:41:00 - [57] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: Euriti I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines. Ok so you admit to being stupid.. and flaming. QFT... your just making yourself look even stupidier than you already do. There was no where in here I whined... I simply said I found a cure for a disease. IMO someone should be giving me an award... not a hassle. Clueless?? your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! I can now see why you get ignored. stop makin yer self look dum or ill come round with a sledge hammer and bash your crotch in and split ur skull up (ingame) ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:46:00 - [58] Edited by: Boz Well on 23/07/2008 18:46:46 Originally by: "GrammerGeniouslol" your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! You sure showed him!
Ambrosious Martin Son of Man	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:53:00 - [59] Originally by: El'Tar Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: Euriti I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines. Ok so you admit to being stupid.. and flaming. QFT... your just making yourself look even stupidier than you already do. There was no where in here I whined... I simply said I found a cure for a disease. IMO someone should be giving me an award... not a hassle. Clueless?? your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! I can now see why you get ignored. stop makin yer self look dum or ill come round with a sledge hammer and bash your crotch in and split ur skull up (ingame) blah blah blah... everytime I see you having typed something, the only thing my brain does is mock the sound of the teacher were never allowed to see on peanuts..."bwaaa buaa bwaaa buaa bwaa" Please make me look dumb you "ignent ree-tard"
El'Tar Caldari Monkey Madness.	Posted - 2008.07.23 18:58:00 - [60] Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: El'Tar Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Originally by: Euriti I resort to stupid flaming when pointless whines about nonexisting problems comming from clueless players start clogging up the forum because otherwise my posts get ignored in the hail of shitposts also known as nano-whines. Ok so you admit to being stupid.. and flaming. QFT... your just making yourself look even stupidier than you already do. There was no where in here I whined... I simply said I found a cure for a disease. IMO someone should be giving me an award... not a hassle. Clueless?? your the one with some major grammer issues. Theres a clue for ya! I can now see why you get ignored. stop makin yer self look dum or ill come round with a sledge hammer and bash your crotch in and split ur skull up (ingame) blah blah blah... everytime I see you having typed something, the only thing my brain does is mock the sound of the teacher were never allowed to see on peanuts..."bwaaa buaa bwaaa buaa bwaa" Please make me look dumb you "ignent ree-tard" ur now on my pk list that is all ________________________________________________ MY BIG BROTHER BEING JESUS CHRIST IN HIS BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM



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