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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.23 22:30:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fink Angel
In reality, we're all big and clever posturing here on the forums, but if it actually happened to us, I'd like to think people would give their actions some thought at least before blowing anyone away with their firearm of choice.
I prefer more old-fashioned techniques, to be honest. Large blunt objects or fists are optimal. Hell, even if someone breaks into your home they're walking around in a dimly lit, unfamiliar location. Perfect place for an ambush. 
hahaha the mental picture of you leaping from the top of the stairs in your underwear right on top of someone 
Make sure you add the infamous "NINJA, ATTACK!" quote from tmnt into that mental picture
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.23 23:00:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Fink Angel
In reality, we're all big and clever posturing here on the forums, but if it actually happened to us, I'd like to think people would give their actions some thought at least before blowing anyone away with their firearm of choice.
I prefer more old-fashioned techniques, to be honest. Large blunt objects or fists are optimal. Hell, even if someone breaks into your home they're walking around in a dimly lit, unfamiliar location. Perfect place for an ambush.
hahaha the mental picture of you leaping from the top of the stairs in your underwear right on top of someone
Make sure you add the infamous "NINJA, ATTACK!" quote from tmnt into that mental picture
If anyone ever breaks into my house, I'll do that just for you guys. Hopefully it'll make the evening news so it can be verified.
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.07.23 23:47:00 -
[123]
Edited by: pwnedgato on 23/07/2008 23:48:27
I keep a 12gauge with rocksalt around just for break-ins, but I know I might now always be able to reach it, so I would use lethal force (pistol, or other shotgun). This is of course after the guy gets past my fence/gate, no trespassing signs, 2 dogs and locked door. My house has been broken into before (twice) both times the perp stopped when he heard me chamber a round in the shotgun. I then tie wrapped them and called the police.
Originally by: Crumplecorn
These is a forum for this.
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.24 00:11:00 -
[124]
I like to get personal.. I got a nice wooden bat 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.24 00:18:00 -
[125]
Considering it was within the law and here quoted.
Originally by: Drax Darksun
The shooter will also, probably, be battling with this for the rest of his life.
Tbh I don't think anything is amiss here...
However I disagree with the law of being able to use lethal force etc.etc..
My 2 cents..
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.24 00:27:00 -
[126]
Survival of the fittest... the one smart enough to NOT break into the house with 6 guns lives to reproduce, the stupid one gets a darwin award 
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.07.24 03:25:00 -
[127]
It was only an american after all, we deported them for good reasons to begin with.
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.24 03:33:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
It was only an american after all, we deported them for good reasons to begin with.
Then you stuck Tony Blair in office, so 
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.07.24 03:51:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 24/07/2008 03:54:24
15 is old enough for him to know what he was doing was illegal.
His fault for catching a shell in the head, had I been in the defendant's situation, I'd have done the exact same thing.
Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
I absolutely support that this kid died. And all the wishy washy liberals in this thread who think that the kid should not have died disgust me. I hope you idiots turn your swords into plowshares so that greater men can lead you to something exceptional.
PS, I am a liberal. Don't paint all of us as tree-huggers, we try not to paint you all as radical religious extremists.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.24 04:02:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
PS, I am a liberal. Don't paint all of us as tree-huggers, we try not to paint you all as radical religious extremists.
The religion thread is a few pages back.
Maybe I shouldn't mention that.......
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.24 04:16:00 -
[131]
So what about the costs when someone breaks into your house methed up, sees you, beats and ****s you, then takes your stuff.
sounds more expensive then a few 9mm rounds.
doubt rubber bullets or pepperspray are going to save your ass there. and a taser, well you miss and game over. with a gun you have 5-29 more shots.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.24 04:17:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
PS, I am a liberal. Don't paint all of us as tree-huggers, we try not to paint you all as radical religious extremists.
The religion thread is a few pages back.
Maybe I shouldn't mention that.......
we cling to our guns and bibles
(hmm I don't have a gun, want get one but that is for another day, and couldn't care less about the bible.)
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.24 04:23:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
with a gun you have 5-29 more shots.
Or 74 if you really got the fun stuff
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50freefly
Caldari
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:05:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Buff Plankchest
Edited by: Buff Plankchest on 23/07/2008 04:27:00
There's less lethal, not non-lethal... and no one is going to fire off a CS gas grenade in their house.
Also, less lethal require a lot more skill to use, cost a lot more, and have to be used at a very close range... and at close range things move fast and civilians just can't handle that.
*Edit: It's just easier, ok?
The problem is that people are using weapons designed to kill in situations where it isn't neccessary.
Less-lethal alternatives (for instance, rubber/plastic bullets) would be just as effective at stopping an intruder; only the liklihood of killing is drastically lower.
Uh, no. Rubber bullets unless shot very well do nothing but aggravate the intruder, and at best temporarily incapacitate them.
NOTHING is as effective at stopping something than making it dead.
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50freefly
Caldari
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.07.24 05:14:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
PS, I am a liberal. Don't paint all of us as tree-huggers, we try not to paint you all as radical religious extremists.
But we ARE all radical religious extremists, you treehugger. 
Also, I have two sort of katana looking heavy wooden sword things I keep in reach. Figure nothing would be better than knocking some ******* in the head with them.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.24 06:17:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
So what about the costs when someone breaks into your house methed up, sees you, beats and ****s you, then takes your stuff.
sounds more expensive then a few 9mm rounds.
on a side note .22 rounds are ridiculously cheap, 2-3 cents
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.24 06:24:00 -
[137]
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
So what about the costs when someone breaks into your house methed up, sees you, beats and ****s you, then takes your stuff.
sounds more expensive then a few 9mm rounds.
on a side note .22 rounds are ridiculously cheap, 2-3 cents
Yes. Good choice of ammo for your organ gun.
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
You are insane.
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.24 06:43:00 -
[138]
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
So what about the costs when someone breaks into your house methed up, sees you, beats and ****s you, then takes your stuff.
sounds more expensive then a few 9mm rounds.
on a side note .22 rounds are ridiculously cheap, 2-3 cents
On a side-side note... .44 magnum rounds are a ton more fun
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.24 07:09:00 -
[139]
Sorry, you break into my home in the middle of the night, if I have a gun, I will empty the magazine into you. That's how it is.
You do not know who it might be who is breaking in, what they will do to you or your family, as such, this is perfectly justifiable.
Kid was BREAKING & ENTERING into a family home, for all the owner knew, he was a some crack-head strung out and ready to kill for 20 dollars.
As far as I am concerned this is how it should be.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.24 07:55:00 -
[140]
Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 24/07/2008 07:59:53
damn ....
Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008... need to buy a semi-auto "assault" rifle fast
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.24 09:07:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Gabbot
If only cloning was possible like it was in eve.
Then the burgular would be able to have his juvenile anus widened in prison, the parents would be happy, the guy who shot him could live easier AND the burgular wouldnt lose any skillpoints!
(Tactless lvl 3)
amen.
on a serious note: "When it comes to the use of lethal force, it will be just that."
my feelings are *shrug* "oh, well."
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Jones Maloy
Minmatar
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.24 09:16:00 -
[142]
if you want a home defense weapon setup go with a 36 round drum magazine automatic shotgun with alternating double ball and buckshot, a good katana, a .45 pistol with hollowpoint rounds, a backup .45 revolver with hollowpoint, and a combat knife.
i'm not kidding here. you're pretty much set with this.
it's pretty easy to take a semi-auto weapon and custom machine parts to make it fully automatic and then replace the semi-auto parts before the cops show up. just make sure the semi-auto parts are dirty from a few rounds of firing or it will look really strange.
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The Socialworker
Minmatar
The Socialworkers
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Posted - 2008.07.24 10:19:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: Akiba Penrose
Also, what if McGuire had shoot somone else, whos intentions where not to rob him? (just some random confused person) Should he be charged with murder then?
Random confused persons don't break windows in order to open doors. I think we can agree that it's a rather specific behavior.
Reminds me of the case a few years ago in USA. A young kid came home from a night out drunk, and went into the garage of a house a few doors up, that looked the same as his own, by mistake. The owner heard him trying to get into the house from the garage, and shot and killed him. the house owner was found to be justified in his actions.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.07.24 11:58:00 -
[144]
Here's the link to the UK guy who was killed drunkenly trying to get into the wrong house.
Yes, he was a prize nobhead, and from his behaviour probably deserved a bit of a kicking and a night in the cells, but didn't really deserve to die for it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-524470/Birthday-drunk-stabbed-death-neighbour-mistook-burglar-went-WRONG-house.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7367536.stm
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.24 13:10:00 -
[145]
haha fail
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Ren Surkova
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.07.24 14:24:00 -
[146]
ahaha darwin awars bwahahahahalol *continues posting* *never gets an opportunity to reproduce*
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.24 14:40:00 -
[147]
Originally by: 50freefly
Uh, no. Rubber bullets unless shot very well do nothing but aggravate the intruder, and at best temporarily incapacitate them.
NOTHING is as effective at stopping something than making it dead.
Actually rubber bullets have killed people on occassion, usually when it's close range, like in a house or something.
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Kim kitori
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.24 19:51:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Kim kitori on 24/07/2008 19:51:18
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 23/07/2008 04:20:53
...according to the report
...according to the report
...according to the report
what a mess 
though I don't believe lethal force should be allowed even to be used against criminals considering just how many non-lethal alternatives are available.
Like what? Reading a bible to the intruder. There is no such thing as too much force when your life is on the line. He tried commit a crime, you dont know what his intentions were. He could have been there to kill people.
Its because people like you, teenagers get stabbed by some wanna be gangsters in uk. 
Criminal punishments are too weak these days.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.24 20:35:00 -
[149]
I live in the UK and think that a law that allows the owner of the property to use lethal force against burglers would dramatically reduce the crime rate here. I would welcome it and laugh as I shot the first idiot that tried to break into my house. I wouldn't call the police immediately, I'd leave his body on the mat as long as possible as a warning to others.
As it is, any thief who breaks into my house would "escape" via the window and 'he obviously forgot he was on the second floor your honour' 
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Rawrior
Gallente
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.07.25 01:27:00 -
[150]
Originally by: 50freefly
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Buff Plankchest
Edited by: Buff Plankchest on 23/07/2008 04:27:00
There's less lethal, not non-lethal... and no one is going to fire off a CS gas grenade in their house.
Also, less lethal require a lot more skill to use, cost a lot more, and have to be used at a very close range... and at close range things move fast and civilians just can't handle that.
*Edit: It's just easier, ok?
The problem is that people are using weapons designed to kill in situations where it isn't neccessary.
Less-lethal alternatives (for instance, rubber/plastic bullets) would be just as effective at stopping an intruder; only the liklihood of killing is drastically lower.
Uh, no. Rubber bullets unless shot very well do nothing but aggravate the intruder, and at best temporarily incapacitate them.
NOTHING is as effective at stopping something than making it dead.
u r rong :< rubbber bullets are a bit more effective than you think young grasshopper
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