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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 25/07/2008 09:48:53 Long Story short, i looking to buy a wyvern, i made post, this guy convo's me. i think what he is asking me to do is completely unreasonable. chat logs below. (some lines have been deleted because i had to type them twice cuz he kept leaving convo)
EDIT: fixing chat log to remove the guy's name, one of my guys says ur not supposed to do it on forum... *shrug* -----------------------
I am under the assumption that chribba would agree to only returning the deposit if they do not show up with the ship. i.e. if i change my mind, the deposit is forefit. i made this perfectly clear to the seller, yet he remained inflexible. leaving the convo 3 times during our chat. also this guy's char is new, maybe its a newb trying to scam people?? dunno. he never confirmed.
what you guys think? fair? or no?
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MenanceWhite
Amarr Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:38:00 -
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Quote: goonswarm scam
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Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:38:00 -
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Anyone who's unwilling to trust Chribba is either an idiot, or knows they won't be able to scam.
I'd write this one off. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Sir Substance
Minmatar Sunspot Requisitions Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:38:00 -
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i think anything goonswarm does would be viewed with suspicion. i certainly wouldn't buy a mothership from them, Chribba certified or not.
Originally by: Ekrid
because trying to fit medium beam lasers is like trying to shove a cow in your mailbox. doable, but it gets messy.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:40:00 -
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This has to be a Troll right? I mean nobody can seriously be asking if giving a Goonswarm member any degree of trust especially with 1.6b isk on the line is a good idea?
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance i think anything goonswarm does would be viewed with suspicion. i certainly wouldn't buy a mothership from them, Chribba certified or not.
I'd join a gang with Lofty if it was Chribba certified. The dude has an absolutely perfect record, and has been trusted with more isk than I could even conceive of. ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 25/07/2008 09:47:12 lolz just had my buddy convo the guy again...
*start convo* [09:37:47] V3CTOR > who is the seller btw/ [09:38:31] V3CTOR > 25 day old char building motherships my ass *he leaves convo*
EDIT: btw lolz, goonswarm rocket launching CNRs ftl. also, theres no way i'm not using third party. i've already spoken breifly with chribba about his service and fully intend to use it.
Just hope this waves yet another red flag above the scamming idiots.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:49:00 -
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If Chribba were a normal human being he would have abused his godlike trust already and pulled off the biggest scam ever
alas, however, he is not. ...
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Wil Smithx
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Posted - 2008.07.25 09:55:00 -
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Its always nice to see more people learning about goonswarm lol
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Buff Plankchest
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Heartstone This has to be a Troll right? I mean nobody can seriously be asking if giving a Goonswarm member any degree of trust especially with 1.6b isk on the line is a good idea?
WTB 1.6b isk wyvern
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina If Chribba were a normal human being he would have abused his godlike trust already and pulled off the biggest scam ever
alas, however, he is not.
Maybe he's just waiting for something big enough :D
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Eran Laude
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Buff Plankchest
Originally by: Heartstone This has to be a Troll right? I mean nobody can seriously be asking if giving a Goonswarm member any degree of trust especially with 1.6b isk on the line is a good idea?
WTB 1.6b isk wyvern
1.6B profit, I think he meant. No-one, especially the goons, would sell a Wyvern at that price.
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Laude
1.6B profit, I think he meant. No-one, especially the goons, would sell a Wyvern at that price.
I think that was the retainer for it, though he kept calling it the reserve.
If I understand the log right - The Wyv wasn't built yet, and he was offering the guy a chance to reserve it for himself by sending 1.6Bn to a third party (Chribba). ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:15:00 -
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TBH Chribbas 2nd party was a bit lame so I can understand people not wanting to go the 3rd party.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:15:00 -
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Goons are know, quite widely, for their scamming of general EVE population, from the "recruitment" scams of the less informed individuals, to contracts scams, and any other way they can take an advantage of the "pubies" as they refer to us.
I would not trust a Goon if my life depended on it.
But that is just personal opinion bourn out of exposure to what they do and how they are.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Prof Patpending TBH Chribbas 2nd party was a bit lame so I can understand people not wanting to go the 3rd party.
You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Lui Kai
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Lui Kai on 25/07/2008 10:24:07
Originally by: Chribba You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked! ---------------- Ambulation Answers
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Prof Patpending TBH Chribbas 2nd party was a bit lame so I can understand people not wanting to go the 3rd party.
You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Wait till Ambulation hits, I will be the first to open a "Chribba's" - and then will charge you ALL of the veldspar you collected for the name....
Talk about parties!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked!
HELL YEAH! PARTY PARTY PARTY! That's how I roll!
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:37:00 -
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Im of the stance that if you cant build a supercap, you probably dont need or shouldnt have one.
But yes, that is an obvious scam.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:52:00 -
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surely if your view is indeed correct, and you need to be able to build one, then all mothership pilots have alot of industrial skills to be able to construct one??? dont think many mom pilots have those skills. and yeah, i know what u mean really. but i am a firm believer that you dont have to be part of a huge 0.0 alliance to fly a supercap.
and reguardless - if i blow it up, its my loss anyway right =)
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.25 10:55:00 -
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Goonswarm
It's a scam, duh.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Taint
Caldari Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:04:00 -
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The Swarm is comming near you.
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Shanur
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.25 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X surely if your view is indeed correct, and you need to be able to build one, then all mothership pilots have alot of industrial skills to be able to construct one??? dont think many mom pilots have those skills. and yeah, i know what u mean really. but i am a firm believer that you dont have to be part of a huge 0.0 alliance to fly a supercap.
I think he means he believes that by the time a corp or alliance needs supercaps to operate effectively, they have the infrastructure in place to get one constructed trough a trusted channel or by their own means.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Lui Kai Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked!
HELL YEAH! PARTY PARTY PARTY! That's how I roll!
lmao at that image
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai Edited by: Lui Kai on 25/07/2008 10:24:07
Originally by: Chribba You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked!
Now this is funny... ________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai Edited by: Lui Kai on 25/07/2008 10:24:07
Originally by: Chribba You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked!
that what chribba need for his other arm tatoo
a cearbear veldnaught if the girl didnt dig veldspar then hell he better have a wife before the veldnaught
invites to said chribba party would gladly excepted here ....aswell as master card
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sesanti
Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:25:00 -
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They are goons, of course it's a scam! _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster -
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:40:00 -
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Dude... be serious. How can you honestly expect the Goons to scam you if you use a well respected and well known 3rd party to ensure you don't get scammed. That's just crazy talk. The Goons scam policy is well known and they will not bend to your silly demands.
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.25 22:53:00 -
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Don't trust goons they're a bunch of shithead scammers.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:23:00 -
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Dealing with goons, you can expect it to be a scam every time.
Regardless, the guy explained the terms to you, and when he noticed you didn't agree to it, so he left convo. Why did you convo him again? Hell, why did you start this thread? If you didn't agree with the deal (and I wouldn't, personally) then anything other than dismissing it is just wasting your own time.
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:26:00 -
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Goonswarm members are doing Mothership scams now? I forsee some interesting threads in the near future.
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Veldya
Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:30:00 -
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Goons... they may be morons but at least they are consistent morons.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.26 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant Dealing with goons, you can expect it to be a scam every time.
Regardless, the guy explained the terms to you, and when he noticed you didn't agree to it, so he left convo. Why did you convo him again? Hell, why did you start this thread? If you didn't agree with the deal (and I wouldn't, personally) then anything other than dismissing it is just wasting your own time.
Well, I think it has entertainment value! It gave me a good chuckle.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.26 03:50:00 -
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He quits the conversation several times on short notice; he's bluffing. He's considering lowering the reserve by 25%. He wants to use Chribba for the 15bil fee but not for the 1.5bil 'upfront'. And best of all, he's a GOON.
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance i think anything goonswarm does would be viewed with suspicion. i certainly wouldn't buy a mothership from them, Chribba certified or not.
I think that anyone buying a Mothership or Titan would use Chribba to help them find a ship and would treat all parties with suspicion including corp/alliance mates who show up for safety reasons.
But I sleep with a gun under my pillow.
Originally by: Galliana Foresta And sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cos I wouldn't eat the filthy mother ****er.
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DubanFP
Caldari Out of Order Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/07/2008 04:12:32 Yeah when Four Rings was disbanding I got contacted by a goonswarm member that wanted our group, we wanted to stay together, to pay 500 million isk per month per system for 0.0 access. He became extremely Irrate when I brought up the possibillity of a scam. I wonder why...
Good rule of thumb. Don't trust anybody who hasn't earned it. ESPECIALLY a GS member. _______________
CCP Atropos > I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears. |
Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih Don't trust goons they're a bunch of shithead scammers.
You speak words of wisdom.
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Taint The Swarm is comming near you.
As long as they get a room for that kind of thing its fine but if its in public thats just not cricket.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.26 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Prof Patpending TBH Chribbas 2nd party was a bit lame so I can understand people not wanting to go the 3rd party.
You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
I can't remember a damn thing about it. So it must have rocked hardcore!
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Arlenna Molatov
Caldari The 59th Parallel
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Posted - 2008.07.26 06:25:00 -
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Well mate....having read ALL the 100's of posts about goons scamming people, yo're just a fricking MORON for dealing with them in the first place.
Nuff said.
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RoCkEt X
Caldari The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.07.26 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: RoCkEt X on 26/07/2008 07:44:30
lolz, for all you dorks telling me not to deal with goons, i'm not, HE contacted ME, not the other way round, and why make the post? well its F**kin hilarious thats why =)
and to be fair, because alot of goons are scammers dosent mean all of them are. i just found a 25 day old char trying to sell me a mothership rather amusing. tbh if i can get my stuff safely at a reasonable price, i dont give a flying <insert4letterWord> whether its from a goon or not.
its my isk, its my risk so stop b*tching.
and fyi, i have another contact who has agreed to build me one, we are both waiting on chribba, who seems to be very elusive atm lol. to see if he will hold a deposit for me while the mom is being built.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.07.26 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Shanur
Originally by: RoCkEt X surely if your view is indeed correct, and you need to be able to build one, then all mothership pilots have alot of industrial skills to be able to construct one??? dont think many mom pilots have those skills. and yeah, i know what u mean really. but i am a firm believer that you dont have to be part of a huge 0.0 alliance to fly a supercap.
I think he means he believes that by the time a corp or alliance needs supercaps to operate effectively, they have the infrastructure in place to get one constructed trough a trusted channel or by their own means.
They are a bit excessive to fly solo
This.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: RoCkEt X Edited by: RoCkEt X on 26/07/2008 07:44:30
lolz, for all you dorks telling me not to deal with goons, i'm not, HE contacted ME, not the other way round, and why make the post? well its F**kin hilarious thats why =)
and to be fair, because alot of goons are scammers dosent mean all of them are. i just found a 25 day old char trying to sell me a mothership rather amusing. tbh if i can get my stuff safely at a reasonable price, i dont give a flying <insert4letterWord> whether its from a goon or not.
its my isk, its my risk so stop b*tching.
and fyi, i have another contact who has agreed to build me one, we are both waiting on chribba, who seems to be very elusive atm lol. to see if he will hold a deposit for me while the mom is being built.
Tbh if you lack even the most basic paranoia required for EVE (as evident in you even considering the possibility that this goon was not trying to scam you), a mothership in your possession is just a hugeass killmail waiting to happen. Or do you merely want it as hangar decoration? And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Victor Adler
The Incredible Machine
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Posted - 2008.07.26 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar Or do you merely want it as hangar decoration?
I'd think he wants it as a hangar.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.26 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Adler
Originally by: Leandro Salazar Or do you merely want it as hangar decoration?
I'd think he wants it as a hangar.
I'd love to have mine as a hangar decoration, now if I only could get it to dock....
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.26 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: Victor Adler
Originally by: Leandro Salazar Or do you merely want it as hangar decoration?
I'd think he wants it as a hangar.
I'd love to have mine as a hangar decoration, now if I only could get it to dock....
Well there is THAT lol Though, could you not in theory use it as hangar decoration in a capship assembly array or ship maint array? (And yes I have not much clue about how they are built and/or stored since I have no interest in flying one ever anyway) And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.07.26 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar And yes I have not much clue about how they are built
Well when a Mummy Mothership and a Daddy Mothership love each other a baby Mothership is born.
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Obermier
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.26 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Prof Patpending
Well when a Mummy Mothership and a Daddy Mothership love each other a baby Mothership is born.
And Chribba is the midwife?
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ragewind
Caldari Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.07.26 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih Don't trust goons they're a bunch of shithead scammers.
feck me a goon saying something truthful
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Wayne Slob
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.07.26 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Veldya Goons... they may be morons but at least they are consistent morons.
You're insulting a group of people here, and I don't think it's Goons.
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Shilikahn
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Posted - 2008.07.26 20:57:00 -
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Two words CON TRACTS!!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.26 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lui Kai Edited by: Lui Kai on 25/07/2008 10:24:07
Originally by: Chribba You gotta admit though that the 1st party was pretty ****ing awesome! I mean, the girls, the light, the drinks and the carebears.
Secret Photos of Chribba's Wild Party Leaked!
where do you people find these things
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shilikahn Two words CON TRACTS!!
Need to be able to dock it for a contract. ________
Originally by: Tarminic I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
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Scott Ryder
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shilikahn Two words CON TRACTS!!
But seriusly sir, you must be somewhat new to this game? If not teach me to dock a supercapital please! Scott Ryder > Ic.. Well keep spamming :p thats clearly the best way of selling. I wouldnt know how to sell stuff. Djan Anaplian > called contract fees ****** Djan Anaplian > Well im the multi billio |
rValdez5987
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:40:00 -
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Dont ever buy anything from a goon no matter what it is.
99% of the time you will get scammed, sometimes you will know others you wont realize it.
That being said, nothing to see here people move along.
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Kelli Flay
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 Dont ever buy anything from a goon no matter what it is.
99% of the time you will get scammed, sometimes you will know others you wont realize it.
That being said, nothing to see here people move along.
You are correct. Instead, we should buy things from carebears like you who do a lot of talking but little to back it up.
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