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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 13:33:00 -
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Aparently that's the ultimate sin in this community, and I've witnessed many people getting discriminated for not being what others expected them to be.
Is there a real reason for this?
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 13:59:00 -
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Because dumb people are stupid!
As much as I love stamp logic, Im curious to know where that leaves the stupid ones at.
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 14:07:00 -
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If you want a game that treats you like a special kiddy no matter how much you screw up go play WoW or any one of the 40 WoW clones out. EVE is a game where bad things happen unlucky and/or idiots who would rather whine on the forums than adapt to a game.
Is this about feeling proud to adapt?
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Machimpy on 26/07/2008 14:35:49
Edited by: Machimpy on 26/07/2008 14:34:12
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When someone chooses to live a completely sedentary life, stuffing food down their gullet as quickly as they can until they're unable to move or bathe unassisted - society as a whole considers that unhealthy (at best), and disgustingly lazy (More realistically).
When someone shows the same sloth and lack of concern for their mind - do you believe they should be treated differently than the above?
Edit: In truth, my gripe most often isn't with people who are only stupid. It's that stupidity often comes paired up with an entitled laziness that causes them to act as if their ignorance is my burden - that we should all use smaller words, explain things in more detail, and outright do things for them.
Frankly, I don't feel that their weakness entitles them to a claim on my strength.
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That and pitying those who can't, yes.
You know there are people working with them (not for them) and it has to take a lot of guts to work with them and not make them feel undervalued. Because what you'd usually get from them in return is a grudge cycle. They're human beings afterall and quite capable of being proud about what they do if threatened, laughing at those who pity them and taking advantage of what society gives and gets disgusted at simultaneously.
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 14:48:00 -
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Stupid person: I don't understand. Why is n?
Intelligent person: Go read x, it's explained there.
Stupid person: Can't you just explain it to me? I don't understand x.
Intelligent person: No. I'm not paid to teach. Stop being lazy and stupid.
Stupid person: Screw you! I may be stupid, but I'm valuable because I'm a person! You should explain it to me!
You've nailed it there, what would it really take for the intelligent person to ignore at the point when the stupid person says "Can't you just explain it to me? I don't understan x."??
After that, what the intelligent person says may well be a blatant abuse of power, totally uncalled for and, if I may call stupid...
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Machimpy on 26/07/2008 15:31:37
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By the same logic - if a physically able person were sitting at the table next to me in a restaurant, then turned to me and asked if I could spoon the soup into their mouth for them, I'm not likely to feel happy to help.
The 80th person in the restaurant to ask me to do it for them as well is likely to get derided for their sloth - as is the 80th person in the example given above.
It's not like I haven't understood the logic, I don't see the need for explicity. However I see an awful lot of paying attention and reprimanding of stupid demands. Often on purpose from the intelligent party, zooing on stupid behaviour, and failing to realise that might as much of a dumb move.
No matter how numerous they are, my point is, if it feeds from your energy so much then why should you let them get to you when that might be what they want? (who knows, would you at least bother asking them?)
Surely doing the latter could serve as a test of intelligence and strength. Giving in to deriding even the 80th person comes as a sign of weakness and arrogance and I strongly tend to deride on that too.
I personally love getting intelligent people angry, testing their intelligence as a fact.
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 16:01:00 -
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Then we have fundamentally different viewpoints, and there's no point in arguing. You think a failure of intelligence should be tolerated. I think tolerance of a failure is more insulting than anything else that could be said or done to that person.
No that aint the point, failure of intelligence don't necessarily have to be seen from a tolerated or not viewpoint. Both actions are just as insulting because as soon as someone implies he tolerates something, already proves a degree of egotistic arrogance.
By the way, having an intelligent argument isn't about converging viewpoints, it's about what two opposites discover through it, and for that, a fair ammount of curiosty's needed...
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.26 16:05:00 -
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Yes, I praise more than intelligence in a person.
Thank you.
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.27 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Machimpy on 27/07/2008 15:22:02
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No-one - I reiterate here - NO-ONE is valuable by virtue of being born. Value is something you accomplish, through actions and effort. If someone is not willing to put in any effort, they have no value.
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I can see that like me, you dislike those who don't attempt to better themselves. My one true belief is that the purpose of life is to better itself.
He who does not try to better himself is a poor man.
Ultimately all allowed equal rights on this one from birth Im affraid.
Try threatening an infant to walking or else failing to be considered of human value...??
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.27 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Minthe "value" of people is all in your imagination. whether you rate others and yourself by intelligence, strength, number of people ****ed or something else is irrelevant. you're all equally worthless. but it'snice to think you're worth something, keeps the /wrists thoughts from entering the conscious mind. very handy that.
I can counter that by saying that on our planet we are the most important species: we could destroy the world or save the world, and thats damn important.
But if your saying that the human race would die off eventually, maybe, but there is a possibility of us learning string theory and making our universe everlasting because of it.
Now, virtue, the wish to further one's self etc is extremely important in life, whether you believe we are all worthless or not.
Oh and lastly, you believe everybody is worthless, but in reality your just creating a rational to your being antisocial and morally inempt, I recommend you reassess your life.
Admins! Please lock this thread, it went from a harmless exchange of ideas on human values to a full on guru battle. 
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.27 19:52:00 -
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I think the horse is dead gentlemen. 
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.27 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Machimpy on 27/07/2008 21:22:41
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As predicted: Thread devolved into metaphysics. Behold my prophetic powers.
Yes you have a c-o-c-k! (Nothing personal)
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Dyslexia allows you to concentrate on more then one thing at once? I didnt know that.
Can you explain further?
Open your own dyslexia thread. 
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Machimpy
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Posted - 2008.07.27 22:24:00 -
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BAD LOVERS!
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