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Architecture
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.28 16:31:00 -
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Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
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Liisa
Starlancers
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Posted - 2008.07.28 16:33:00 -
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You own the loot inside the wreck.
You do not own the wreck itself.
Not hard to understand.
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Ne0SHNIK
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Posted - 2008.07.28 16:35:00 -
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at least that makes mission running a bit more multiplayer. Besides, ninja-salvaging is a profession for some players. It requires a lot more skill than mission running in the first place. Why destroy that profession? And I am a hardcore carebare mission runner myself and not a ninja-salvager.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
It's not broken, and thus, doesn't need to be fixed.
Originally by: Architecture I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?
They do. It's called 'loot'. The material in the wreck is fair game, and is a negligible profit item.
Originally by: Architecture otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
Can I have your stuff?
Originally by: Architecture regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
Good for you. Stand by your convictions.
Originally by: Architecture CCP do something Please. Thanks.
I agree. CCP should put an end to your whining.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 28/07/2008 17:01:47 Run missions in lowsec -> Guard your wrecks all you want. Besides, even if you could shoot salvagers...you'd have to be REALLY, REALLY stupid to actually do it.
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Akuma Tsukai
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:02:00 -
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Like they say: mission runners tears fuel my ship Its not a bug, its a feature (c) Microsoft ---- Drones eat everything. Trust me. |
Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Akuma Tsukai Like they say: mission runners tears fuel my ship
That sounds vaguely familiar... Regardless, I approve of the above product and/or service.
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Tsiros
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:25:00 -
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this game should not turn into ER where everything is ''clean and clear'' from bad things.
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Architecture
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
It's not broken, and thus, doesn't need to be fixed.
Originally by: Architecture I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?
They do. It's called 'loot'. The material in the wreck is fair game, and is a negligible profit item.
Originally by: Architecture otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
Can I have your stuff?
Originally by: Architecture regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
Good for you. Stand by your convictions.
Originally by: Architecture CCP do something Please. Thanks.
I agree. CCP should put an end to your whining.
tbh they should do something with your old style sentences
your stuff... whining...etc is so silly. and not in your dream lol
anyway thanks for your response as i wish ya good luck next time
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Architecture
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 28/07/2008 17:01:47 Run missions in lowsec -> Guard your wrecks all you want. Besides, even if you could shoot salvagers...you'd have to be REALLY, REALLY stupid to actually do it.
ist the same with Looters?
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture tbh they should do something with your old style sentences
Before speaking out against my sentence structure, perhaps you'd like to take a class in English as a Second Language.
Pot, meet kettle.
Originally by: Architecture your stuff... whining...etc is so silly. and not in your dream lol
What in God's name does this even mean?
Originally by: Architecture anyway thanks for your response as i wish ya good luck next time
Seek help.
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Kotami
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ne0SHNIK Besides, ninja-salvaging is a profession for some players. It requires a lot more skill than mission running in the first place.
LOL
Astrometrics? Check. Science? Check. Salvaging? Check. No conscience? Check.
GTG!
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kotami LOL
Astrometrics? Check. Science? Check. Salvaging? Check. No conscience? Check.
GTG!
Oh yes, Mission Running is so much more skill intensive...
Ship? Check. Picked up Mission from Agent? Check. F1-F7 pressed? Check. Doritos and Pop? Check. Hand down pants? Check.
GTG!
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Fuhshizzle
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fuh****zle on 28/07/2008 18:08:02 You guys are arguing two different types of skills. It takes very little SP (comparatively) to salvage someones L4 mission, and quite alot of SP to effectively run L4s.
It takes very little actual skill to effectively run L4's, while it 'initially' takes some skill to salvage someone's L4 mission. But after figuring out how to do it, its just pretty stinking easy.
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Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:20:00 -
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:22:00 -
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Quote: ist the same with Looters?
Why yes, yes it is. Many mission runners have been popped because they stupidly decided to engage someone looting their mission. In fact, I'm planning to get together a gankship and start doing just that.
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Lady Aja
Caldari Blood Raider Domination
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
Nothing wrong with salvaging so....
Get a corp mate of "lesser" skills to salvage and loot for you. the game is not bugged it is ok as far as salvage goes.
If this is a problem please follow the next set of instructions..
Buy 15 trillion matches , 25 tonnes of glue, 56 acres on lush valley lands, then BUILD a bridge and get over it. it aint going to be changed ffs!
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
Get A Clue.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
So you make another thread asking for a change in game mechanics in the wrong forum. It is working the way it is intended CCP needs to fix nothing.
Originally by: Architecture
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
You have it all wrong it is working as intended.
Slade
"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self" |
Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.28 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
I don't think the folks at CCP don't see it your way. See Mitnal's post in C&P. The sticky, Crime and Punishment Resources thread. All the way on the bottom you will find the Ninja Salvager's guide. Since Mitnal stickied the thread, I might go as far as to say that salvaging is working as intended.
Now tell me where you run missions out of so I can come drink up some of those sweet, sweet tears.
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.07.28 22:20:00 -
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Don't worry, if CCP makes salvaging flaggable, it's just going to be like can flipping. As in there will be MANY MORE looters or salvagers who come into your mission looking for a fight, and you end up dead. Then you will proceed to run to the forums and ask WHY!?!?!? did CCP make salvaging flaggable.
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Brianna Wyvernsbane
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.29 00:32:00 -
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i for one, could care less.
do i ninja salvage? yes, and love it.
would i stop if it flagged me? no, i for one would love to bag a couple CNR's and that oh-so-sweet faction gear.
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alisandent
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:19:00 -
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I wouldn't mind it if they made salvaging flaggable. As long as I get to see what I'm going to salvage before I begin. I'd just as soon not get flagged for some crappy salvage. ___________________________________
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.29 02:21:00 -
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/me agrees with above post. ^
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Sigras
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Posted - 2008.07.29 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Liisa You own the loot inside the wreck.
You do not own the wreck itself.
Not hard to understand.
why is it then that if someone destroys one of the wrecks that i made they get concorded? if its not really mine then why does it matter?
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Lady Aja
Caldari Blood Raider Domination
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Posted - 2008.07.29 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: JordanParey /me agrees with above post. ^
to stop *******s like me from shooting youre wrecks to **** you off lmao.
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Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.29 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Aja to stop *******s like me from shooting youre wrecks to **** you off lmao.
What you don't realize, is the amount of Corp chatter watching a Mission Runner shooting their potential revenue generates. Sure, we're flying around salvaging what we can, but when you start shooting the wrecks, I make sure to stick around until every single one of them is gone.
Then, I try and calculate how much ISK you just lost, and how much irritation you think you've caused me.
We'd actually appreciate it even more if, while blowing up the wrecks, you could state in local exactly how angry or frustrated you think we are... ...because that only makes us laugh louder.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.07.29 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Architecture Since there is many Topics talking about such problem on this forums, Its realy wierd that CCP didnt fix it yet.
I would like to refresh this subject again and the question is, why dont you (CCP) allow me to defend my self and what i've earned by my own at least?? just like,, how do you treat who loot my own wrecks or mission wrecks as a crime and thn i have the right to kill'em Let me defend my self against who salvages my wrecks too. otherwise this game getting sucks day by day...
is whatever inside the wrecks shouldn't be looted by others while the wrecks its self could be public thing so others can salvage it? how come? i do kill NPCs alone than everybody can salvage my wrecks?? huh!! lets stop joking Please and treat with this problem seriously.
regardless that i can waste other ppl's time and wrecks the same way too. but i wouldn't like to do such thing with people cause i dont like it when such thing happens to me.
CCP do something Please. Thanks
sincerely...
I'm sorry I've sat here and read far too many of these topics. You carebears are CRYING for wreck salvaging to cause an aggro flag so you can shoot said thief.
I'm all for this, but only if you promise not to come to this forum and shit it up with "omg the salvage thief came back in a bigger ship after I aggrod him and ****d me" threads...deal?
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.29 19:01:00 -
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CCP's official response as to "why" this is allowed? IN the words of GM Faulchu:
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This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Its junk. Since it isn't "worth" anything, concord won't help you protect it. -------------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Not it isn't, people should be encouraged to get out in low sec space, but never forced to do so.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.07.29 20:56:00 -
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I've found that the old mantra "If you can't beam 'em, join 'em" is very much applicable to most of the things people whine incessantly about in Eve. ---
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