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Emperor Aeoth
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor Aeoth on 30/07/2008 22:36:12
for the ppl who are using faction/deadspace tank, they got 7897 effiency tank/sec, after overheat thats 10173 EH/s
and if they use drug ,they will get 12716 EH/s
skills
shield operation V (5 % bonus on recharge spped )
implants
* Pirate Implants - CRYSTAL - 53.63% bonus shield amount
Modules
invul field (shield resistances +50%)
x-large shield booster 840hp/4sec
shield boost amplifier (shield boost +45%)
Rigs
core defence operational solidfier II(duration -20%)
Gang Bonus
Module:
Siege WArefare Link- Active Shielding---Duration -23.52%
Siege WArefare Link- All resist +23.52
Boosters
blue pill bosster (shield boost bouns 25%)
Over heat
shield boost +10%
duration -15%
From these we know the shield tank realy need a big nerf, 12716 eh/s is realy unbeatable.
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TOD hamm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:29:00 -
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all date is testing in RAVEN
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Amarrian Cougar
Amarr
TalCorp Enterprises
Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:31:00 -
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You fail to take into effect that using a setup like that, you're gonna run out of cap booster charges real quick.
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Hracky
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:32:00 -
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Have you been drinking?
Snake's don't give shield amount bonus.
And those people pay an awful lot of isk to get those tanks so i say let them.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:32:00 -
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fail troll fail ,go back to CAOD
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Atlas Oracle
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:32:00 -
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i don't think so
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Mia Archer
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Hracky
Have you been drinking?
Snake's don't give shield amount bonus.
And those people pay an awful lot of isk to get those tanks so i say let them.
kinda like ppl pay an awful lot of isk to have 12km/s hacs and commandships? oh wait....
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Aeoth
for the ppl who are using faction/deadspace tank
Step 1: Tab to EFT, and press ALT+F4
There is no step 2.
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Emperor Aeoth
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hracky
Have you been drinking?
Snake's don't give shield amount bonus.
And those people pay an awful lot of isk to get those tanks so i say let them.
ooops i copy it from dev blog and forget change ...XD
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:36:00 -
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The OP doesn't just fail. He:
1. Fails
2. Meta-fails
3. Fail^2
Youtube will express my opinion: Linkage
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Banana Torres
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Aeoth
for the ppl who are using faction/deadspace tank, they got 7897 effiency tank/sec, after overheat thats 10173 EH/s
and if they use drug ,they will get 12716 EH/s
what is there effiency tank (spot the EFT warrior) if the cap has been sucked dry?
A t1 fit battleship would do the job of sucking the cap nicely, and it would cost less than the change left after a good night out.
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TOD hamm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:38:00 -
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welll that not what I'm using in eve
but that's what dev log told
how many ppl gonna use faction/deadspace for pvp ??
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: TOD hamm
welll that not what I'm using in eve
but that's what dev log told
how many ppl gonna use faction/deadspace for pvp ??
Nice alt you got there, OP.
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Emperor Aeoth
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: TOD hamm
welll that not what I'm using in eve
but that's what dev log told
how many ppl gonna use faction/deadspace for pvp ??
Nice alt you got there, OP.
hum...yup my alt always forget to change poster char
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Mia Archer
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: TOD hamm
welll that not what I'm using in eve
but that's what dev log told
how many ppl gonna use faction/deadspace for pvp ??
the ppl who have invested the time to have the isk to be able to afford to, which apparently means nothing to CCP over supporting the influx of OMGZ dis game iz too hardz noobs that their latest drives for new players are mostly brining in. Long live 6 months of training caldari missile spammers down with ppl who actualy spent time to be able to use other stuff good!!
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Kailiani
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:46:00 -
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Hope dis isn't serious. mega + neut domi could tear that thing apart quickly.
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TOD hamm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiani
Hope dis isn't serious. mega + neut domi could tear that thing apart quickly.
did CCP care??
they just do the math, and nerf things :)
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Kailiani
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:50:00 -
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They are actually nerfing teh shield tank?
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:51:00 -
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Indeed, what's broken about shield tank isn't just the amount of damage they can mitigate, but the fact that even if you do bring the appropriate counters the shield tanker can, in almost every case, simply disengage. So against shield tankers you either lose or you tie - only a poor pilot or an incredibly unlucky one would lose a shield tanker.
Right guys? Right?
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Emperor Aeoth
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiani
They are actually nerfing teh shield tank?
dont know, maybe after nano nerf they will do it
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Karanth
Gallente
Eve's Brothers of Destiny
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:57:00 -
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MY RAVEN IS FIT WITH THE FOLLOWING:
Warp Speed skill needed! |
Kailiani
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:59:00 -
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Right I hope they do I mean spending 6-8 billion on each estamel invuln, 1+ billion for the amplifer, 2 billion for the booster and a few bill on the implants + rigs... then being spanked by the first small group you run into sounds very overpowerful. I like how comparable it is to nanos.
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TOD hamm
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Posted - 2008.07.30 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
MY RAVEN IS FIT WITH THE FOLLOWING:
cant see
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Emperor Aeoth
Amarr
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiani
Right I hope they do I mean spending 6-8 billion on each estamel invuln, 1+ billion for the amplifer, 2 billion for the booster and a few bill on the implants + rigs... then being spanked by the first small group you run into sounds very overpowerful. I like how comparable it is to nanos.
well,I'm just using best modul in game, like what Nozh did
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BlackKnightMagik
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:03:00 -
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Besides they will not nerf Caldari because they are under powered how it is, just ask any Caldari pilot...lol
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Emperor Aeoth
for the ppl who are using faction/deadspace tank, they got 7897 effiency tank/sec, after overheat thats 10173 EH/s
and if they use drug ,they will get 12716 EH/s
what is there effiency tank (spot the EFT warrior) if the cap has been sucked dry?
A t1 fit battleship would do the job of sucking the cap nicely, and it would cost less than the change left after a good night out.
TBH I doubt that fit. If you can tank 10,000+ DPS with a X-Large Shield Bosster then that setting just became every Dreadnaught pilots best friend.
Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU! |
Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kailiani
Right I hope they do I mean spending 6-8 billion on each estamel invuln, 1+ billion for the amplifer, 2 billion for the booster and a few bill on the implants + rigs... then being spanked by the first small group you run into sounds very overpowerful. I like how comparable it is to nanos.
No, no, you see...as soon as the shield tanker runs into a gang that he can't defeat, he just disengages instantly due to his amazing tanking ability, right? I mean, that might be a legitimate reason for a nerf.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:06:00 -
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uuuhhhh, what happens when the booster insteads lowers half your skills by 50%?
and what happens when you cap boosters run out?
and what happen happens that while overheating your modules all explode.
the speed thing is much different. in speeds case the over heating only needs to last about 1 cycle to get away. in tanking it's important to stay there forever.
However if you were smart and had a can or 5 out side this ship and you just kept pulling capboosters from that can it would be fun to go tank conchord in this set in jita :)
speaking of which we should get a tiny supply ship.;.. hmmm to the forums!
Originally by: Dapanman1
Terrible idea, you're an idiot
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Mia Archer
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Aeoth
Originally by: Kailiani
Right I hope they do I mean spending 6-8 billion on each estamel invuln, 1+ billion for the amplifer, 2 billion for the booster and a few bill on the implants + rigs... then being spanked by the first small group you run into sounds very overpowerful. I like how comparable it is to nanos.
well,I'm just using best modul in game, like what Nozh did
Thats the point exactly CCP will never achieve balance if its basing its balancing off of super rare modules that only a few can afford (which seems to be exactly what they are doing in this case) instead of basing everything around T2 fittings which are the standard. Nanos are definatly a problem but CCP appears to think that everyone who nanos is fittied with deadspace MWDs and HG snakes and Faction Overdrives and T2 polys which VERY FEW ppl who use nano ships actualy have. Nano ships could have been easily tweeked around the T2 fittings that most nano ships use without the need for massive changes to the entire pvp system and the way it currently works. Instead CCP has chosen to just hit everythign with a huge nerf bat instead of taking the time to actualy look into the problem and develop a useful solution
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.30 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Aeoth
Edited by: Emperor Aeoth on 30/07/2008 22:36:12
for the ppl who are using faction/deadspace tank, they got 7897 effiency tank/sec, after overheat thats 10173 EH/s
and if they use drug ,they will get 12716 EH/s
skills
shield operation V (5 % bonus on recharge spped )
implants
* Pirate Implants - CRYSTAL - 53.63% bonus shield amount
Modules
invul field (shield resistances +50%)
x-large shield booster 840hp/4sec
shield boost amplifier (shield boost +45%)
Rigs
core defence operational solidfier II(duration -20%)
Gang Bonus
Module:
Siege WArefare Link- Active Shielding---Duration -23.52%
Siege WArefare Link- All resist +23.52
Boosters
blue pill bosster (shield boost bouns 25%)
Over heat
shield boost +10%
duration -15%
From these we know the shield tank realy need a big nerf, 12716 eh/s is realy unbeatable.
I whole heartedly agree with this OP. Nerf shields. Bring more variety to the game please.
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