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Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:28:00 - [31] Quote: I was thinking a NightHawk. They dont use MWDs as far i know, they can tank like crazy and do a decent amount of damage against everything. LOL. No. The Nighthawk doesn't normally fit a MWD because it doesn't have the PG. And it can do one of "decent damage" and "tank" at the same time. It can't do both.
InnerDrive Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:20:00 - [32] Edited by: InnerDrive on 01/08/2008 00:20:09 Originally by: Tuko kun see, here is the problem, you want the best ship for roaming pvp. i can list a few and will give you reasons why they are best. after reading this you will (hopfully) realise how dumb your question is 1. Arazu: they do the thing that started your whine 2. any intrdictor: in 0.0 all they need to do is drop a bubble n leave 3. rr domi: awsome tank, capless damage (drones) 4. falcon: ECM, nuff said 5. ares: great belt tackler that can stay outta 2ptmwdkilling scram range now i fly all these ships other than the falcon, but i know how good ecm is, and i dont really think i will be changing any of my setups. bs will still have an mwd fit so it can burn outta bubbles that have no hostiles. if caught alone in a bubble camp it wuldnt have any chance 2 survive anyway. interdictors are still gonna be used 2 bubble up and die, getting out is an option. and ceptors will also keep using mwd. other ships can till use mwd and do alright, sure the vaga n stuff wont go as fast, but they will still move faster than other hacs. and yes, SHORT ranged 2pt scrams will shut your mwd down, but if you are withing that range in a vaga you aint doing it right, or so im told. this nano nerf has been a long time comming and im looking forward to it. I have heard lots of people complaining that it takes the last paystyle that involves skill out the game. all it does it give you an oppertunity to prove just how good your skill at playing really is This has been pretty much the only usefull reply so far answering my question.. Skills is no issue, i been playing for over 4 years now , i can fly pretty much anything. - I woud fly the arazu but its sorda a shame that the damps were nerfed to pretty much useless. - A regular interdictor still will have the whole "shut down mwd issue", a lott of times i run with my mwd turned on it my dictor and pretty much everyone is out to get me, if i will go even slower after the patch i will die even more. - RR domi, domis are to slow for fast roaming, they take forever to get to warp, otherwise very nice ships for closerange combat - Falcon, everyones primary, i might pick up on flying this one regularly. - Ares.. MWD nerfed. I know you will say that people shoudent get within 9km off you but sometimes it happens in engagements at a gate, after the patch and it happens your dead with the complete shut down from MWD disable+webbing. So maybe overal the falcon will be the best ship to fly if others in the gang perform the other roles required.
Betray Caldari The Substitutes	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:29:00 - [33] Ask me personally I'd still say Drake... If you look at kb, drake is the #1 solo pvp ship...and it's not because of its speed, but for its better-than-bs tank and not shabby dps. as long as they dont nerf missile/drake, i say it's gonna be awesome now Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVE is the matrix of matrix, while we are just part of matrix, our char is just a part of the matrix's matri
Burn Mac Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:30:00 - [34] Well no one else is saying it so. 1.Falcon 2.Scorpion 3.Nighthawk 4.Drake
Blastil	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:37:00 - [35] Originally by: InnerDrive Edited by: InnerDrive on 01/08/2008 00:05:56 Edited by: InnerDrive on 31/07/2008 18:35:14 Edited by: InnerDrive on 31/07/2008 18:35:01 I think this nano nerf patch is really sad , so much training i did gone to waste.. Going to have to change training to drones and missiles only now i think after doing some testing on sisi, i found that basicly all closerange ships that use a mwd suck since they can be shut off. I dont currently use many ships, that dont use a mwd in pvp, in fact none. Whats the best ship that does not need a mwd to kickass? Im talking like you can only fly one ship (non-capital), you have all skills at lvl 5 for all ships in the game. What ship will be overal the best ship to fly? I was thinking a NightHawk. They dont use MWDs as far i know, they can tank like crazy and do a decent amount of damage against everything. Ships so far: none valid Invalid argument. The idea of a MWD on a ship like say- the thorax, is to CLOSE DISTANCE not to burn like a man on fire, and perma-run it in a fight. Hell if your using your MWD in a fight, you either suck or you have no clue. only ships that should even try are ceptors because they get sig radius bonuses. Fitting an MWD might be useful on all ships even after the patch, the REAL problem are the dork-faces who NANO their ships. Which can get cruisers exceeding 10 kps. Most ships I bet will still fit an AB or a MWD just so they can do things like close massive gaps, and insta-warp while aligned.
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:47:00 - [36] All my ships will still be fitting MWDs (rupture,hurricane, typhoon/tempest are ALL better off with a MWD), except the Jaguar which will now fit AB (I already fly AB rifters so no change there). Fitting MWDs still gives you a ton of utility you would not have otherwise. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Trojanman190 Ah I see your strategy you fiend you... Minmatar is overpowered and new FOTM!!!
Mar vel Caldari A.I.M.	Posted - 2008.08.01 01:35:00 - [38] I'm fairly certain the Devs didn't envision that Minmitar would become exclusively speed-tanking as it's primary defense mechanism. (gasp!) -You may actually have to deal with getting hit occasionally. So in your Vaga-mobile you're now forced to fit DPS and exchange a Lrg T2 extender for some kind-of shield booster. Welcome to everyone else's pain point. Some (many) would argue that this is precisely the reason there's a nerf up for patch. Anything Arty and anything Drone boat is +5 in my book. Look in that direction. Originally by: d3vo Hell, if everyone was patient enough, there would be no "this or that" becuse you have the opportunity to fly everything. To the OP, anything Minmatar just because they are based on speed. However this nanonerf will make Minmatar ships absolute garbage. When you have nanocruisers not going over 3km/s, it will be hard to roam when everyone and everything CAN and WILL hit you.
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.01 01:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Tuko kun 2. any intrdictor: in 0.0 all they need to do is drop a bubble n leave After patch it will bemuch easier. After bubbling you will be teleported directly to your clone station \o/
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.01 01:53:00 - [40] Originally by: Mar vel I'm fairly certain the Devs didn't envision that Minmitar would become exclusively speed-tanking as it's primary defense mechanism. (gasp!) -You may actually have to deal with getting hit occasionally. So in your Vaga-mobile you're now forced to fit DPS and exchange a Lrg T2 extender for some kind-of shield booster. Welcome to everyone else's pain point. Some (many) would argue that this is precisely the reason there's a nerf up for patch. Anything Arty and anything Drone boat is +5 in my book. Look in that direction. You're clueless. Vagabonds don't speed tank, they buffer tank. They orbit at no more than 600-700m/s max. They get hit PLENTY of times, and this is why they have to seek softer targets. You've never tried to take out a dominix, raven, drake in a vaga? Really? You can't FLY a vaga? No? Then please stop commenting. Thanks.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.01 01:56:00 - [41] The cloakie cloakie recons, minus the minmatar one :D
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2008.08.01 06:24:00 - [42] pilgrim with AB will be good.
Imaos	Posted - 2008.08.01 07:32:00 - [43] Originally by: InnerDrive - Ares.. MWD nerfed. I know you will say that people shoudent get within 9km off you but sometimes it happens in engagements at a gate, after the patch and it happens your dead with the complete shut down from MWD disable+webbing. You are really bothered by that small sometimes? If you really want to be sure go PvE. Less risk there. (Also less effects from 'nerfs'). Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.08.01 08:07:00 - [44] Originally by: InnerDrive so much training i did gone to waste.. The nano tears taste o-so-sweet but really im looking foward to the new race to find the next "uber" ship. As i have no idea what itll be. Perhaps an ab cerb or nighthawk? dunno, but i think there wont really be many uber-the-best ships as ccp dont want there to be one.. Before the nerf it is the vaga. Hands down the best hac to fly dun care what u say, ishtar was clsoe but not quite as good. Now that the nerf has come, it wont be crap nor will many "x-nanoes", there all pretty much EQUAL (almost..lol black ops/minmi recons lol).. poudly annoying fc's since 2007 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=828123 caldari drone boat enthusiast
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.08.01 08:28:00 - [45] The fast ships will still dominate. ---- GO BLUE!!
Snow Banshee	Posted - 2008.08.01 09:36:00 - [46] Originally by: AstroPhobic The naglfar, it's vertical. SSSSsssshhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!! Dont make ccp notice this uberness or it will be nerfed as hell!!!!
Startling Revelation	Posted - 2008.08.01 09:49:00 - [47] Speed will still offer tactical advantages, but not necessarily a decisive one, unless you have the skill to properly exploit it. Originally by: Tuko kun I have heard lots of people complaining that it takes the last paystyle that involves skill out the game. all it does it give you an oppertunity to prove just how good your skill at playing really is QFT. If flying nano required player skill, there wouldn't be so many doing it. Nano is a high-character-skill low-player-skill fit.
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.08.01 09:58:00 - [48] Originally by: InnerDrive Edited by: InnerDrive on 31/07/2008 18:30:28 Originally by: d3vo See this is the problem. People want the BEST ship. There is NO best ship and there shouldn't be any BEST ship. Everything is good at one thing or the other, not at everything. There shouldn't be an overall best ship to fly...please. This is why there are nerfs because people cannot adapt. Ships have different roles yes, but there is allways a ship your better to be flying in than another. Its for example better to fly a interdictor than a T1 Frigate, but when your roaming around its not better to fly a battleship without speedmods. I shoud ask, Whats the best (non capital) roaming ship post patch if you can fly all currently in the game? His info stands, I hate you, work a ship and fitting out for yourself and see how far it gets you in pvp, you'll die horribly without your nano comfort blanket and I'm glad!
Mashie Saldana Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.01 10:07:00 - [49] Originally by: InnerDrive Whats the best ship that does not need a mwd to kickass? Im talking like you can only fly one ship (non-capital), you have all skills at lvl 5 for all ships in the game. What ship will be overal the best ship to fly? Rifter with AB.
Adamai Gallente Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:18:00 - [50] lets face it their is no overall good or better ship, if ccp intended for some one to fit a ship to be completely invulnerable dont you think their would be a mod that gives 100% resists by now that ony takes up one slot. the nerf things to make the game more balanced whats the point in flying round at mach 2 and not being able to get in close to kill nothing as your ships is paper thin. sure it works great against hulks and the odd ratter tanking 3 battle ship spawns thats webbed by the frigates lol ofcourse your going to kill him he cant tank 3 b/s and fight you at the same time while webbed and scrammed by ratts. the idea is no one should be completely immune to being killed, i love battle ships and carriers but untill now killing nano cruisers was something to be desired and is now actually possible :)
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:26:00 - [51] This is what im going to try to fly first when it comes to TQ (no i will not try it in Sisi as that whould imply intelligence) 1. AB Blasteranis 2. AB Ishkur 3. AB Arbitrator 4. AB Enyo GO AB! ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:27:00 - [52] Originally by: AstroPhobic You're clueless. Vagabonds don't speed tank, they buffer tank. They orbit at no more than 600-700m/s max. They get hit PLENTY of times, and this is why they have to seek softer targets. Tbh, the MWD reactivation delay is the change which hurts the Vagabond the most, and preety much the only change which I consider quite broken. Yes, MWD reactivation if it was forcibly shut down, OK, but not if you're kiting someone. If someone doesn't have the skills for a Vaga, you can try with the simple Stabber - it's simply extremely difficult to keep range in a non-perma MWD ship as pulsing MWD is out of the question now. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Uzuki Shootmenow	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:49:00 - [53] kestrel. hands down.
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.08.01 12:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Burn Mac Well no one else is saying it so. 1.Falcon 2.Scorpion 3.Nighthawk 4.Drake QFT. 50% of eve already flying caldari. No need to boost them too much, so lets hope for that missile nerf. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name
Taco Raptorian	Posted - 2008.08.01 13:38:00 - [55] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Burn Mac Well no one else is saying it so. 1.Falcon 2.Scorpion 3.Nighthawk 4.Drake QFT. 50% of eve already flying caldari. No need to boost them too much, so lets hope for that missile nerf. Hope it's enough to even things out a bit for us turreteers. (yes I made that word up)
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.01 13:52:00 - [56] Originally by: Adamai the nerf things to make the game more balanced whats the point in flying round at mach 2 and not being able to get in close to kill nothing as your ships is paper thin. Not adding anything valuable, but mach 2 is only about 620m/s.
Wideen Contraband Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.01 13:59:00 - [57] I'd go along Astros lines and say nano-naglfar but since they're nerfing nano, dunno...
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.01 14:00:00 - [58] Originally by: Uzuki Shootmenow kestrel. hands down. Never had issues killing Kestrels in a Rifter Then again, I never had issues killing other Rifters in a Rifter. Except one Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.01 14:05:00 - [59] Originally by: Wideen I'd go along Astros lines and say nano-naglfar but since they're nerfing nano, dunno... My t2 polys AND my snakes going to waste. At least it's still vertical. On that note, due to minmatar's intense lacking status, please make every single minmatar ship vertical. Except the rifter, it's sexy like it is. (Imagine a vertical vaga)
Chaos Incarnate	Posted - 2008.08.01 14:26:00 - [60] Stealth Bomber? Quote: "Rabble Rabble Rabble!" "Just sitting out here saying "Rabble Rabble" isn't going to fix anything!" "But we don't know what else to do!" "Rabble Rabble Rabble!"

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