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Trovax
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.02 02:36:00 -
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Ill keep this simple.
As we all know, NOBODY (as far as im aware), HULL TANKS!!!
Therefore.....
Why not remove ALL hull repairers and just have a single hull repairer that can fit on any sized ship, and repair amount is based on ship mass??
Furthermore, make it so it can only be activate within 10km of either a station, or ship maintenance bay (Or similar to prevent people abusing it if it becomes possible). most people repair hull outside station anyway.
Not sure of the implications this might cause to people out in low sec or even 0.0, but im pretty sure this would free up the server databses some whats.
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.02 02:50:00 -
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
z0de
Gallente
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.08.02 02:51:00 -
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who says nobody hull tanks? |
Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.02 02:55:00 -
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As Vaal pointed out, if it aint broke then dont fix it. Also gettin rid of hull repairers and just having 1 for all ships is somewhat lame as:
1- Having different size Hull rep's doesnt put more pressure on the database
2- If implemented people would start shouting that they want the same for armor reps
3- Waste of Dev's time
4- RP perspective (why not the same for armor and shield reps) |
Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.02 02:56:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: z0de
who says nobody hull tanks?
I think he meant to say "nobody that is legally classed as sane hull tanks" |
Trovax
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.02 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Trovax on 02/08/2008 03:13:36
Edited by: Trovax on 02/08/2008 03:13:22
Yes i did :)
And yes i agree, if it aint broke dont fix it.
And also, if your only argument is 'people will want the same for shield and armor', then you obviously dont see what im getting at. (Troll anyone?) and im pretty sure people wont expect the same as THEY will understand what im on about. Oh and arnt your comments 2 and 4 pretty much the same?
And its no trouble at all to press 'delete'.
Anyways...was just an idea.
"I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant" |
Arazel Chainfire
The first genesis
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.02 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: z0de
who says nobody hull tanks?
I think he meant to say "nobody that is legally classed as sane hull tanks"
hey now... thats rude - hull tanking is teh sh*t 
All REAL men hull tank...
-Arazel
P.S. - what... don't you hull tank?
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
Mutual Incomprehension is one of the Four Horsemen of most internet arguments, I guess, along with Unfettered Hostility, Overwhelming Vagueness, and Lack of Evidence.
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Robert Rosenberg
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.02 03:41:00 -
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I Put a hull repper, and armor repper, and a civ shield booster on my ibis when I first started because I love to have a lot of tank in any game I play.
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FlameGlow
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.02 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: z0de
who says nobody hull tanks?
I think he meant to say "nobody that is legally classed as sane hull tanks"
Hull tanks make great bait-ships 
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Oh look gang, that domi is already in structure, we got him now!...... WTF????!!!!@!$@%$#$!%%$#@$!#%$!^^#&!
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I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Falcon Troy
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.02 05:19:00 -
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I was under the impression that Gallente were originally slated to be hull tankers. That's why there are so many hull enhancing mods, which seem useless now. CCP just left them in for variety's sake I suppose.
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Jerid Verges
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Posted - 2008.08.02 05:48:00 -
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I don't understand why Hull repairers are Teir 2 when Armor Repairers are Teir 1.
As if you need any further reasons not to Hull tank?
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.08.02 05:56:00 -
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DCUs should repair hull gradually, maybe at the same rate as a small hull rep.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |
Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.02 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian
DCUs should repair hull gradually, maybe at the same rate as a small hull rep.
A Small Hull Repairer I repairs at a rate of 0.83 structure/sec.
A Small Hull Repairer II repairs at a rat of 1.1 structure/sec.
While this isn't a horrible idea, that's far too much effort for what it's worth.
/derail
What they need to do is change the "Regenerative" line of resistance plates and energized plates from a +% Armor bonus into a passive armor repairing module...
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.08.02 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
What they need to do is change the "Regenerative" line of resistance plates and energized plates from a +% Armor bonus into a passive armor repairing module...
was thinking the same thing last night actually, it's sort of implicit in their name that's what they do anyway 0o
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Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.08.02 09:26:00 -
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Actually, many people hull tank. They may not want to but they do.
The reppers just get you back to full after the fight as you never active hull tank only buffer tank. In this regard they work. Not all that usefull to have plethora of them but not totally useless either.
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Adyriana
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Posted - 2008.08.02 11:19:00 -
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I hull tank. I also use nanofibers. Is that bad?
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Dictum Factum
Gemini Sun
Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.08.02 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Trovax
As we all know, NOBODY (as far as im aware), HULL TANKS!!!
Though I try not to, I find that I end up hull tanking my Nemesis...
I know less than you think I do.
Gemini Sun is Recruiting |
Maeltstome
Minmatar
Suicidal Office Clerks
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Foulque
Originally by: Horchan
What they need to do is change the "Regenerative" line of resistance plates and energized plates from a +% Armor bonus into a passive armor repairing module...
was thinking the same thing last night actually, it's sort of implicit in their name that's what they do anyway 0o
shield tanking is (noestly) far superior ro armor tanking (actively anyway). But armor reps already have this taken into account, 2:1 cap/hp ratio - shield boosters have a 1.5:1 ratio. 2x lar II = XL II + SBA II roughly cap wise, but tanks a bit better DPS wise.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.08.02 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Anubis Xian
DCUs should repair hull gradually, maybe at the same rate as a small hull rep.
A Small Hull Repairer I repairs at a rate of 0.83 structure/sec.
A Small Hull Repairer II repairs at a rat of 1.1 structure/sec.
While this isn't a horrible idea, that's far too much effort for what it's worth.
/derail
What they need to do is change the "Regenerative" line of resistance plates and energized plates from a +% Armor bonus into a passive armor repairing module...
Fair point, perhaps as much as an XL Hull Rep?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |
Kasutra
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.02 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Trovax
Ill keep this simple.
As we all know, NOBODY (as far as im aware), HULL TANKS!!!
Therefore.....
Why not remove ALL hull repairers and just have a single hull repairer that can fit on any sized ship, and repair amount is based on ship mass??
Furthermore, make it so it can only be activate within 10km of either a station, or ship maintenance bay (Or similar to prevent people abusing it if it becomes possible). most people repair hull outside station anyway.
Not sure of the implications this might cause to people out in low sec or even 0.0, but im pretty sure this would free up the server databses some whats.
What exactly is it that is bad about the way it is now? 
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.02 14:42:00 -
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Chuck Norris hull tanks.
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Originally by: Roguehalo
Can you nano Titans?
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Vee Raa
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.02 14:52:00 -
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Insurance tank is the way to go !!
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Chuck Norris hull tanks.
Chuck Norris needs to tank?
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How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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August Guns
Minmatar
Infinite ISK
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:06:00 -
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I tank with faith.
August Guns |
Lord Haur
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Rosenberg
I Put a hull repper, and armor repper, and a civ shield booster on my ibis when I first started because I love to have a lot of tank in any game I play.
WTB ibis with 2 mids that comes with an Amarr character
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Lord Haur - Imperial Academy Logistical Support
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.08.02 15:27:00 -
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I actually remember when they did nerf hull tanks a year ago i think it was or slightly before
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