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Macareus	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:57:00 - [1] I mean as you see from my pic I already did. However I wanted to roll a second pvp char but am really tired at looking at Achura all day long, from the ORLY!? male face to the rather plain female face. Is it really just a tradeoff between having a character who looks good (ie not Achura) and not borking your character? Is there some other char build that I missed that uses those extra 3+ points of charisma that every other bloodline seems to have? I can't imagine needing them unless you want to pack your ship full of gang warfare mods.
Tzar'rim Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:00:00 - [2] Imagine playing for 3 years,beign achura means that in some areas on skills you'll do better so you might be 10% 'better', while being 'worse' in others. Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Thought so.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:03:00 - [3] No. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:04:00 - [4] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/08/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Look who's talking. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/08/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Look who's talking. seriously Jim, trying to set yourself up now? Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Khandara Seraphim StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:08:00 - [6] I kind of enjoy the fact that I rolled my character with no real idea of what any of the stats meant. I think it adds character and flavor to your toon. .... Plus i'm khanid so I still have respectable stats AND I'm a hottie
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:08:00 - [7] Originally by: Tortun Nahme Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/08/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Look who's talking. seriously Jim, trying to set yourself up now? Bald is beautiful. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:10:00 - [8] thas ok man, I love you anyway Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to: "Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Tortun Nahme thas ok man, I love you anyway Yeah, the chicks too always tell me I have such a nice personality... This thread is now about chicks. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:34:00 - [10] Because you don't want to be another tool who created an Achura for what will end up being a 5% difference in training time? ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Jim McGregor This thread is now about chicks. eve-o is not your personal army. - -
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Jim McGregor This thread is now about chicks. eve-o is not your personal army. Thank god, I hate armies. Brainwashed people fighting for whatever their leaders lie to them about. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:24:00 - [13] it really should be rules against male Achura posting on the forums tbh, the portraits are as ugly as u can get.
Fean Dejerak	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:25:00 - [14] i'd say about the only reasons against it are role play and if you want to have leadership specialization in pvp
TheG2 Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:27:00 - [15] I went for the vampire look personally. Girlfriend told me she'd pay the fee to redesign my characters face to CCP :P
Macareus	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Tarminic Because you don't want to be another tool who created an Achura for what will end up being a 5% difference in training time? I mean I'd consider doing something else if Achura was just the FOTM, but I doubt CCP will ever play with attributes. They haven't to date if I remember correctly. The only thing they could do is add another bloodline or race that would be superior to Achura, but then everyone would be behind.
Illwill Bill Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:37:00 - [17] Alternatives: Jin mei Very well-balanced stats, and Gallente drone-nberness from day one. Sebestior Excellent for all-round characters with PvP focus. Brutor Shades, Baby, shades! ____________________ Originally by: CCP Saint Hey look over there! Its...its...its the thread back on topic!
Mire Stoude Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:39:00 - [18] Edited by: Mire Stoude on 04/08/2008 18:39:08 <-------- look at me! I have a mullet, mole, an 8 o'clock shadow, a goofy smile and shiny bathrobe... Not the most intimidating figure. When I first started I was like, "Hahaha, that looks stupid. Oh well, I'm sure I can change the avatar later..." Yah, this was my first ever MMO. I guess I wasn't 100% sure how important the avatar is. Needless to say I can't wait for ambulation and the ability to change my avatar finally.
Fean Dejerak	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:40:00 - [19] Edited by: Fean Dejerak on 04/08/2008 18:41:11 It makes sense to roll Achura only if you also take great care to not miss any skill training. If you do some EVEMon calcs you will see that next best pvp roll options aren't that much behind Achura. So if you miss a lot of training while another guy rolls a Khanid C.K. for example and misses less training you can potentially end up behind him. The stats look good on paper, but in practice it is also up to how diligent you are with switching skills.
PsychoBones Sons of Plunder.	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Illwill Bill Brutor Shades, Baby, shades!
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Fean Dejerak Edited by: Fean Dejerak on 04/08/2008 18:41:11 It makes sense to roll Achura only if you also take great care to not miss any skill training. If you do some EVEMon calcs you will see that next best pvp roll options aren't that much behind Achura. So if you miss a lot of training while another guy rolls a Khanid C.K. for example and misses less training you can potentially end up behind him. The stats look good on paper, but in practice it is also up to how diligent you are with switching skills. Plus, aren't there diminishing returns on increasing attributes? As in 10% better stats will not automatically equal 10% faster training - you might be better off putting the extra points into a secondary attribute instead of min/maxing. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Illwill Bill Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:47:00 - [22] No, it's more in the line of "1 point higher on the primary attribute means another 60 SP's per hour". ____________________ Originally by: CCP Saint Hey look over there! Its...its...its the thread back on topic!
Relyen Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:54:00 - [23] Character Portrait Swap It will cost you 10 bucks.
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.08.04 18:58:00 - [24] Quote: Is it really just a tradeoff between having a character who looks good (ie not Achura) and not borking your character? Way to blow the differences way out of proportion. Borking your character? Please. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Macareus	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:00:00 - [25] Originally by: Fean Dejerak Edited by: Fean Dejerak on 04/08/2008 18:41:11 It makes sense to roll Achura only if you also take great care to not miss any skill training. If you do some EVEMon calcs you will see that next best pvp roll options aren't that much behind Achura. So if you miss a lot of training while another guy rolls a Khanid C.K. for example and misses less training you can potentially end up behind him. The stats look good on paper, but in practice it is also up to how diligent you are with switching skills. Diligence on skill training isn't really relevant to which race is more efficient, unless you think rolling Khanid somehow makes you pay more attention. I guess maybe if you're achura they're so ugly you can't bear to log on and look at them. Otherwise, given the same level of diligence Achura always come out above Khanid don't they? Originally by: Tarminic Plus, aren't there diminishing returns on increasing attributes? As in 10% better stats will not automatically equal 10% faster training - you might be better off putting the extra points into a secondary attribute instead of min/maxing. There are diminishing returns for each individual attribute (each 1 point into any attribute reduces training time by a smaller percentage than the previous one). However, a 10% skill increase always means 10% faster training. Check the math yourself and if you stil don't belive me I'll post it.
David Ryan coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:15:00 - [26] I regret it.... I'm ugly :( -------------------
Polcor Rodal Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:34:00 - [27] Edited by: Polcor Rodal on 04/08/2008 19:35:22 Originally by: David Ryan I regret it.... I'm ugly :( Not exactly ugly, just like....the biomass reactor had a malfunction or 1-2 pages in the BPC were missing. /me ducks & runs away Pol p.s. Sry. Couldn¦t resist. Feel to retuern the volley. Take care, bears.
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:40:00 - [28] Command ships/warfare links/leadership skills. If you're not ever going to be doing those, then no. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Ringo Jeicha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:43:00 - [29] Because you touch yourself at night. --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:45:00 - [30] Khanid > Achura Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.04 19:57:00 - [31] Gallente. Because you know that high cha will make all the chicks attracted to you in ambulation
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Legacy Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.04 20:12:00 - [32] Sigh. 1) By gimping Charisma, there are some skills that will take you a ridiculously long time to train for...leadership skills and command ship (both of which are great in PVP). Even if you don't want those, then gimping CHA is still a bad idea because CCP constantly adds in new skills. At EVE release, there were 80 skills, and now there's 300 something. You're going to feel very stupid when some new CHA skills get released. 2) The benefit to combat skills you get by adding +2-3 or something to your attributes by gimping charisma will hardly affect your training time at all, but gimping charisma will have a horrific effect on your CHA skill training times. Diminishing returns.
Keisern	Posted - 2008.08.04 20:30:00 - [33] Brutor wins.
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.08.04 21:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Macareus I mean as you see from my pic I already did. However I wanted to roll a second pvp char but am really tired at looking at Achura all day long, from the ORLY!? male face to the rather plain female face. Is it really just a tradeoff between having a character who looks good (ie not Achura) and not borking your character? Is there some other char build that I missed that uses those extra 3+ points of charisma that every other bloodline seems to have? I can't imagine needing them unless you want to pack your ship full of gang warfare mods. (1) Fugly (2) Sub-optimal stats CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.04 21:47:00 - [35] Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 04/08/2008 21:47:55 I can get easily high perc+will+int+mem with respectable (read: not 3) charisma on another race, which, thankfully, doesnt look like some anemic wannabe of Shang Tsung. Of course it isnt Caldari, so... Double bonus as any charisma-based skills like leadership skills wont be so painful to train. On that note, however, Achuran females do look hot, albeit borderline emoish. Khanids have the whole "Genghis Khan" thing going on, which is great. Females are equally hot. EDIT: in fact, I'm keeping this build as secret for now, think I may just make an alt after playing with one character for so long... -
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.08.04 21:48:00 - [36] It's not worth being the world's ugliest asian man... Don't let your friends fly achura.
Kosume Ike Amarr GoldenWind	Posted - 2008.08.04 21:49:00 - [37] Who knows what we will all look like when ambulation comes out...
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.08.04 21:54:00 - [38] Edited by: NeoTheo on 04/08/2008 21:55:11 Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/08/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Look who's talking. i lol'ed sh1tloads, ty Jim ;) Originally by: Keisern Brutor wins. only cause of the mandatory shades ;) Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.08.04 23:21:00 - [39] Edited by: Forge Lag on 04/08/2008 23:21:32 Sebiestor look best. They just radiate personality if you make them that way and not like the mangled retrded look most Sebiestor agents have. They also have good balanced stats. Speaking about personality, Achura have none and no matter how hard you try it is the same stock look as the next guy. The stats, well, yeah, you cannot really beat them (I know it will sound new to most but you can increase charisma too). But the first impression you leave will always be another fish from a monkey herd, even without looking at a portrait.
Mashie Saldana Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.05 00:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Forge Lag Edited by: Forge Lag on 04/08/2008 23:21:32 Sebiestor look best. They just radiate personality if you make them that way and not like the mangled retrded look most Sebiestor agents have. They also have good balanced stats. Speaking about personality, Achura have none and no matter how hard you try it is the same stock look as the next guy. The stats, well, yeah, you cannot really beat them (I know it will sound new to most but you can increase charisma too). But the first impression you leave will always be another fish from a monkey herd, even without looking at a portrait. Sebiestor is great, however my 1 month younger Achura has 4m SP more than me (47m vs 43m)
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.05 00:06:00 - [41] nothing wrong with achura, the 39999 standard build is ideal if you haven't got a clue what you want to do.
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc	Posted - 2008.08.05 00:15:00 - [42] Jin Mei: be good at everything except dress sense.
Reaver One Sigillum Militum Xpisti	Posted - 2008.08.05 00:56:00 - [43] Achuras can be the best looking cats in the game. Take me for example. pinches own nipples
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.05 01:06:00 - [44] Edited by: Akita T on 05/08/2008 01:07:43 Originally by: Macareus roll a second pvp char but am really tired at looking at (male) Achura all day long Linkage Khanid Cyberknight (male or female) Achura female (males are just too darn fugly) _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Utada Hikki	Posted - 2008.08.05 02:38:00 - [45] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim .... Plus i'm khanid so I still have respectable stats AND I'm a hottie THIS. khanid female = win
Bai ZongTong The Revolutionary Guard	Posted - 2008.08.05 02:39:00 - [46] Originally by: Mashie Saldana stuff your sig --- Want some YARRHHHS? The Revolutionary Guard Pirate Corp Looking for Members Uncensored KB
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.08.05 02:53:00 - [47] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim .... Plus i'm khanid so I still have respectable stats AND I'm a hottie quotin' dis __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.05 03:31:00 - [48] Trust me, you will regret having bad stats more than having an ugly char in the long run... ;-) How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Clair Bear Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:21:00 - [49] Hey, I'm hawt! And the minmaxer in me wanted to see the highest possible value on SOME stat. That'd be 33. My int. Not real useful these days but it got me billions of ISK from getting into the datacore farming biz early.
DeadRow Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:25:00 - [50] I kinda wish I had choosen a char with more charisma for my alt >_> I wantz a CS alt Quote: Iz in ur base, implanting ur dudes
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:40:00 - [51] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Faife Originally by: Jim McGregor This thread is now about chicks. eve-o is not your personal army. Thank god, I hate armies. Brainwashed people fighting for whatever their leaders lie to them about. So your not into alliance warfare eh Jim? And to the OP. Achura is the perfect race to be a jack of all trades as you can get all 9 in the primary attributes. Bored with mining but don't want to roll a new alt and lose the sp already invested in your learning and support skills? With a balanced attribute setup like that you can swtich right over to combat skill with only a slightly less sp per hour than a character with high perception and willpower. However you will be butt ugly for the rest of your Eve career. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:45:00 - [52] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Tortun Nahme Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/08/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Tzar'rim Now picture yourself looking at that buttugly face for 3 years. Look who's talking. seriously Jim, trying to set yourself up now? Bald is beautiful. sorry jim balds out hairs in but don't feel bad its ok ur not neless of a toon just a hairless toon
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:46:00 - [53] 1. They're Caldari 2. Caldari is the new Amarr You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:47:00 - [54] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim I kind of enjoy the fact that I rolled my character with no real idea of what any of the stats meant. I think it adds character and flavor to your toon. .... Plus i'm khanid so I still have respectable stats AND I'm a hottie Khanid chics r total babe's
Michiyo Ishimaru Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:49:00 - [55] blushes
Fean Dejerak	Posted - 2008.08.05 05:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Macareus Originally by: Fean Dejerak Edited by: Fean Dejerak on 04/08/2008 18:41:11 It makes sense to roll Achura only if you also take great care to not miss any skill training. If you do some EVEMon calcs you will see that next best pvp roll options aren't that much behind Achura. So if you miss a lot of training while another guy rolls a Khanid C.K. for example and misses less training you can potentially end up behind him. The stats look good on paper, but in practice it is also up to how diligent you are with switching skills. Diligence on skill training isn't really relevant to which race is more efficient, unless you think rolling Khanid somehow makes you pay more attention. I guess maybe if you're achura they're so ugly you can't bear to log on and look at them. Otherwise, given the same level of diligence Achura always come out above Khanid don't they? What i was pointing out is that the rate at which you train skills is not a function only of what Race-Bloodline you choose to roll. Some people roll Achuras and think it is a given that they will train skills faster than everyone else because hey, they rolled an Achura! While in reality, if they have skipped any skill training a more diligent EVE player with another race-bloodline roll will overtake them.
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.08.05 06:24:00 - [57] I only picked this race because I wanted to minimise the amount of time I would need to invest to get the R&D skills I needed. When looking 3+ years down the track there really isn't any kind of massive difference. I have a Gallente, Caldari and Amarr main, there isn't a massive difference so far although I avoided the one-dimensional stats which in my grand plan would slow me down in the long-run.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.05 06:54:00 - [58] yes you get to be ugly everyone knows Civire are better anyway ...
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.05 07:45:00 - [59] Originally by: Illwill Bill Brutor Shades, Baby, shades! Oh yeah baby. Not to mention cool tats.
Astria Tiphareth Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.05 08:17:00 - [60] Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 05/08/2008 08:19:01 snifs what's wrong with my Achura this time!? Edit: I chose mine randomly, so I do smile wryly every time someone alleges I chose it for some particular play-style. Since when did a given character and race decide how you play the game? ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties...
Rhanna Khurin Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.08.05 08:32:00 - [61] 1-2 weeks less overall training time but on the other hands.. you hacve to suffer being one of the ugliest looking morons on the server. The choice is yours.
Rhanna Khurin Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.08.05 08:35:00 - [62] Sebestior has near identical stats to an achura anyway, and we're sexy (or demonic if male)
Qui Shon	Posted - 2008.08.05 08:42:00 - [63] Butt ugly is great, but this particular style of ugly is not my favorite. I'd prefer the Amarr guy that's bald on the top but with hair sticking out the sides, or something like that. And seriously, how can you have a 'Monk' bloodline and not give it a bald haristyle Gimmeh a bald head! (In Eve) As it is, the avatar pic means next to nothing to me, but I suspect the portrait does effect some peoples perception and reaction of others. Now if Eve got a facial generator like Oblivion, only better, more detailed and with better graphics, AND ambulation was more then just fluff, then I would probably spend hours if not days on several portraits for various character types. I think, out of the 22 hours I gave Oblivion before giving up and accepting it was a huge disappoinment, and that consoles really do destroy the industry, six or seven hours were spent on the face generator tool.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.05 09:01:00 - [64] Originally by: Qui Shon Now if Eve got a facial generator like Oblivion, only better, more detailed and with better graphics EVE's one is one of the best i've seen. You can really make some unique-looking avatars IMO. Unless you're Achura that is. Some reason you all look the same ...
Meylota LeFey Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.05 09:39:00 - [65] I'll admit it -- I didn't research character creation before I rolled my 1st toon. As a result I didn't know what difference races made or bloodlines nor even what the "training paths" meant either. When that voice in the beginning was saying "the choice you make will affect your attributes" I truly thought it would have some sort of in-game application like higher PER allowing farther lock ranges or something. I really was clueless. So I picked my race based off something in the description that made it sound like it would be an "easier disposable noob" in order to try out the game and get my feet wet before rolling my "real character." Once I discovered how the attributes affect training time and that it's all time based anyway, I didn't want to lose the time on my character, so I kept it. What race did I pick? Caldari. Why? Becuz in my other MMO experience "fighter type" characters are easiest to start with, and the Caldari description is "militaristic." What bloodline did I pick? Achura. Why? I honestly don't remember. I also picked Inventor as the "background." IIRC it added INT stat and I thought it would be useful. To the point that I added another 3 points to INT from the 5 I got to allocate. I ended up with a 12 - 8 - 8 - 8 - 3 base stat. With learning and implants I'm now 27 - 23 - 23 - 23 - 15 and could get the CHA to 17 in less than a week if I trained the last 2 learning skills for it. So even my CHA based skills don't train terribly slowly. I'm rather happy with how it all turned out. Since I didn't know how to really manipulate the avatar picture then either, I'll admit my main's fuglier than most though. My trader alt here is WAY hotter ;) My 9 yr old son made an Amarr alt to fly around and do level 1 missions and some hi-sec ratting with, and it's even uglier than my Achura though. Of course I don't play that toon so I don't care what it looks like.
Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.05 09:43:00 - [66] why would you want some bland asian looking character when you can be as manly as mine
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.05 09:48:00 - [67] Originally by: Kosume Ike Who knows what we will all look like when ambulation comes out... Not sure, but I expect half the women will wear latex... ------------------------------------------
Herr Esiq Cube Zombie Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.05 10:38:00 - [68] <---------- Whats the use of looking 'better' when you'll look like a exclamation mark for the rest of your EVE life? /tread ;-)
Ombey Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.05 10:44:00 - [69] Eve is all about style, not substance Ergo, Brutor/ Shades wins. -- 2d EveMaps My blog
Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic	Posted - 2008.08.05 10:57:00 - [70] been looking at my picture for way too long now, i still think i look hawt :D
Miriel Amarinth Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.08.05 11:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim Plus i'm khanid so I still have respectable stats AND I'm a hottie Everyone knows it's true I also rolled my main character without a clue - I just thought "Amarr sounds like an interesting race to play" and "hmm Khanid, interesting background..." Funny how I still think it's one of the best-looking choices in the game :p
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.08.05 11:48:00 - [72] I went through about 5 characters over a 3.5 year span before rolling Anubis here. I miss where I would be if I had kept my first character, but ultimately my quest for the perfect main is finally over. ActiveX [sold] -> Eximius [deleted] -> Sobeseki Pawi [sold] -> Eximius Josari [gifted] -> Thor Xian [sold] -> Anubis Xian [perfect] Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Rhanna Khurin Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.08.05 11:50:00 - [73] Khanid just look like Achura but with better clothes lol. At least Khanid males look vaguely human
Exlegion New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.05 11:55:00 - [74] This is how FOTM's get started. I'm willing to bet that if CCP were ever to 'fix' the charisma attribute there will be deafening whines on the forums from some of those that intentionally rolled Achuras. So basically, choose your race and then accept the consequences of your decision. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.08.05 12:07:00 - [75] Originally by: Exlegion This is how FOTM's get started. I'm willing to bet that if CCP were ever to 'fix' the charisma attribute there will be deafening whines on the forums from some of those that intentionally rolled Achuras. So basically, choose your race and then accept the consequences of your decision. No bet. There was a thread proposing more CHA-based skills a month or so ago, and it was indeed drowned out by such whines. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Shanur Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.05 12:41:00 - [76] Originally by: Miriel Amarinth Funny how I still think it's one of the best-looking choices in the game :p I can't judge for females, but where males are concerned: Brutor make you manly man! And of course, shades and tats
Conge Omanticore Federal Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.08.05 13:26:00 - [77] Hai, I'm a chubby Japanese pervert.
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.05 14:24:00 - [78] Originally by: Arvald why would you want some bland asian looking character when you can be as manly as mine Rofl! Your avatar truly wins! ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Eran Laude Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.05 14:51:00 - [79] Edited by: Eran Laude on 05/08/2008 14:52:03 I rolled Gallente because I had nostalgic memories of my first Gallente and how awesome drones were, I went Gallente bloodline because Intaki aren't great fighters and Jin-Mei, although they look better than Achura, don't look great. In retrospect I think it was a good decision, although I will love Ambulation I'm going to be sad giving up this portrait, which took a long time to get right and I like it a lot. However, fix Gallente hairstyles! Only about 3 are physically viable!
Zaran Darkstar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:30:00 - [80] I remember that before creating a character i had read various guides abou tthe game all suggesting Archura for the reasons we all know. But when i saw how it looked the males plain ugly and the women without much personality although clearly better looking than the men i decided to pick soemthing else. The thing is that i find myself considering the guys that make Archuras as powergamers and i usually avoid them or feeling not so friendly towards them . It's strange but it looks as if these points Archuras have less on charisma do count in real! Also keep in mind that usually ISK farmers are Archuras Now you don't want to look like an ISK farmer do you?
Tzar'rim Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:37:00 - [81] I still see Achura as "new characters"...
Jandice Ymladris Caldari Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:46:00 - [82] Heh when I started eve; I had no clue about it; and the caldari had a good description. Being a small but militaristic nation sounded pretty good. Took achura as I liked the isolationist theme of the asians. Found out later they`re numerous as hell :s Also I putted alot of points in my charisma as I thought it would be useful in a mmorpg oO. Bright point is; I`m probably the Achura with highest base charisma (6 or 7!) Also pretty happy with my char; I think she looks good. -------------- Cleaning up wrecks others leave behind! Got to keep space clean!
Macareus	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:54:00 - [83] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Exlegion This is how FOTM's get started. I'm willing to bet that if CCP were ever to 'fix' the charisma attribute there will be deafening whines on the forums from some of those that intentionally rolled Achuras. So basically, choose your race and then accept the consequences of your decision. No bet. There was a thread proposing more CHA-based skills a month or so ago, and it was indeed drowned out by such whines. The unfortunate difference between racial FOTMs and ship FOTMs is you can compensate for the latter but not the former. If you pick the wrong race you're screwed for the rest of EVE unless you reroll. If you pick a ship and it gets nerfed, you can train for another and still have most of your support and weapon skills. However, whenever you train for any FOTM you voluntarily accept the risk that it will be nerfed in the future. So really you have no right to whine, but I guess people don't think that way, and instead expect eve to become nano-Achuras online. Anyway, the more I think about it the more I'm inclined to roll a Khanid. The extra 2 charisma is probably decent insurance against the possible charisma buff. Then again, a lot of stuff they've been adding so far that used charisma (gang warfare, trade skills, etc) can be skipped and you still have a solid pvp character.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:54:00 - [84] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/08/2008 15:55:22 I chose my race based on backstory alone. It occurred to me when making my alt that I could choose achura to get the best stats, but then I remembered that when I start thinking like that I will have sucked all the fun out of the game and it will be time to quit permanently. So my alt is also Gallente. Also, I prefer stats balanced across the board, including CHA, as I never know what CCP is going to add to the game, or what skills my own constantly changing interests will lead me to train. Also, while I have undoubtedly 'lost' SP due to my attributes, I have also undoubtedly 'lost' more due to quitting for six months, so it's kind of academic for me at this point anyway. - DesuSigs
Roku Kotaki Caldari Celestial Command Operations	Posted - 2008.08.05 22:21:00 - [85] Edited by: Roku Kotaki on 05/08/2008 22:21:49 I was an idiot and listened to too much advice on the New Citizens channel and rolled this. The problem is, I didn't realize my mistake till I was 4 months into the game and he is pretty much a jack of all trades, haven't really specialized in anything. So I don't see myself rerolling now. And, besides, I don't think he looks too bad .
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2008.08.05 23:35:00 - [86] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Unless you're Achura that is. Some reason you all look the same Same thing can said about Khanid, Civire, Sebiestor, and so forth, when the player creating the character attempt to create something about the character, giving it the looks of a badass, femme fatale, authority or whatever that floats your boat.
Mashie Saldana Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.05 23:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Bai ZongTong your sig That's my ladies.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.05 23:43:00 - [88] This char has 3 base charisma :P Leadership is gonna suck tho.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.07 08:15:00 - [89] BTW I have skulls in the background. Who else has skulls?
Ammon Skycloud Caldari Matari Research Foundation	Posted - 2008.08.07 08:25:00 - [90] Dude your face... oh wait your Achura, never mind.

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