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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:17:00 -
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This might seem like a silly idea, but I figured I might as well share it and see if anyone else thinks it could work.
As I was reading the IGS and seeing people's in character replies to the fictional news story about the two teens in Rens who blinded themselves. I noticed that several people have offered to make donations of ISK.
Now realistically, those donations will never be collected on. But it got me thinking back to another fictional event, the disaster that laid the framework for the second Caldari and Gallente war when that Nyx crashed into the Ishukone Headquaters. When that took place a lot of people in character talked about contributing ISK also.
So why can't their be an actual way to donate ISK? For that matter why not a way to donate ISK that could go toward charity in the real world? So here is the basic plan I thought of,
1. Players contract ISK contributions to a CCP controlled NPC. (It would have to be done by CCP. Just way to much temptation here to do a memorable scam in Eve history.)
2. At the end of every month, if the contribution is enough, one or more GTC's are bought through the normal exchange means with this ISK, but instead of being given to or used by a player the U.S. dollar value of the GTC is donated to an actual charity on CCP and the Eve player bases' behalf?
I don't ever think it will be a whole lot, but it be something, and worth while in my view.
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Fahtim Meidires
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:49:00 -
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Use in-game role-playing events to eventually benefit out of game causes. No programming required. Either way people will feel good about participating. EVE could do this, for sure (also huge press coverage, CCP).
Easy 9-0 in the CSM that can take less than 5 minutes with absolutely no discussion.
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:52:00 -
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Ah, what the Hell. Can't hurt mentioning, can it?
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Penchance
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Posted - 2008.08.05 07:25:00 -
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This might actually be quite successful. It's a convenient system that allows people without credit cards to contribute to a worthy cause, vastly increasing the potential "market" for donors. Furthermore, since this isn't real money we're dealing with (in practical terms, at least) people might just donate more than they would normally.
One criticism I have of your idea: don't make it a monthly thing. Only do the occasional one-off donation drive for a particular cause. For best results, hold some kind of event, like a mini tournament - "Incursus Jousting" (1v1 fights in Incursus*) to give an example - and the charity gets the proceeds of the event plus any supplementary donations from players. This should open the gates wide for corporate sponsorship, just like in the real world.
This may be the first charity donation initiative brought about by in-game currency trading. 
*NB Incursus is fourth declension so its plural is also incursus. 
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.08.05 07:45:00 -
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/signed
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Gone'Postal
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.08.05 08:23:00 -
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Would be nice.
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Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2008.08.05 09:18:00 -
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How could this possibly be a BAD idea? It would allow people that don't have that much to give a way to give.
Fictional world(s) having an direct impact on the real world. I love it.
Support. (Not that the CSM or CCP will do anything with this. But, still.)
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Lolarina
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:10:00 -
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wow, cause likes most charities it's fake and used for money laundering?
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WishBlade
Caldari
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:12:00 -
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I'd be all for it
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Obermier
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:24:00 -
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Now this is creative thinking, unlike this nonsense.
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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.05 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Uilliam Nebel on 05/08/2008 12:04:05
 Originally by: Lolarina
wow, cause likes most charities it's fake and used for money laundering?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean?
Originally by: WishBlade
I'd be all for it /+1
Thanks, but you didn't select the 'Support this topic' checkbox when you posted. So it does not officially count in regards to sending it to the CSM. If you have a chance, you can just go back and edit the post to add it.
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Demus DaVet
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.05 12:48:00 -
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I definitely support this idea
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Kelsin
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:11:00 -
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That is a very clever idea, and would be pretty amazing PR for EVE.
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:11:00 -
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creative and simple. The mark of a brilliant idea.
If you add in things like the alliance tournament, the possibilities to raise a good level of RL cash extremely credible.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Heartstone on 05/08/2008 13:24:34
A sound idea that deserves the support of all. Well done Uiliam.
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Tarun Thred
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:26:00 -
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Fantastic idea, think of the positive publicity CCP.
Only thing I would say is who gets to choose the charity?
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:47:00 -
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Would love to see something like this implemented.
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Ehrine Ashbark
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 13:56:00 -
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I like the concept, but some care would be needed when working out the details of exactly how to implement - especially when it comes to picking charities to support.
Definately should be looked into though I think.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:58:00 -
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Sure, why not! Gives us all a good answer to CIHYS: I'm donating it to charity!
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.05 17:47:00 -
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One thing I think I missed and could be altered to make it more of a community donation and less of a CCP direct donation is for the Card to be resold by CCP for money rather than it impacting their profits.
but at the end of the day, the strict detail isn't that important, only that theres a way to convert isk into a charitable donation
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Cassius Longinus
Darkwave Technologies
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.08.05 18:04:00 -
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"I know what I hate, and I don't hate this."
Sure, +1, everyone wins. Charity gets $$, CCP gets writeoff's, and players... well get to feel good about themselves or something I would imagine. |
J Kunjeh
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Posted - 2008.08.05 18:11:00 -
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This could be a very cool thing for CCP to do. And it could be used to support this: http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:09:00 -
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Yep good idea. I'll raise it at the next meeting. Consider it on going on the agenda once the 7 day public discussion is up.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:06:00 -
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My concern is that this might fry the GTC market, by creating a massive new demand with no new supply. Prices will certainly spike. That said, I'm still in favour of this - a good idea, and good publicity besides. But be aware that you're going to dramatically change GTC prices if you do this.
Also, instead of picking one charity, CCP should set up a pile of them. A pile of dummy characters with names like "CCP Charity Child's Play" (specifically with 3+ word names if it's possible to do that, because players can't replicate those), who each check their wallets every downtime, and buy GTCs if they have the cash on hand to do so.
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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:55:00 -
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i like it,i got 7 bill with nohting to buy :P
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Rob Risk
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Posted - 2008.08.05 23:47:00 -
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Sir you are a genious! Wait a second, WTF?
For a moment there, I thought I had entered some other weird magical dimension. I think it might have been yours.
You're really going to go with that, huh?
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Grak Yarn
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.06 01:39:00 -
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behind this one hundred and twenty percent.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.06 01:54:00 -
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that sounds nice and all but who's dollar is being donated to charity?
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Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
that sounds nice and all but who's dollar is being donated to charity?
Well I guess that depends on if one believes ISK are indeed a form of 'virtual' asset, in the sense that they have actual value outside of Eve. If you do think they meet that criteria, then it is the people whom donate ISK's dollar, and CCP is acting as an exchange or go between to convert ISK to USD or some other form of cash. But if you don't, then it is CCP's dollar that is getting donated.
Whole thing realistically is a bit of a grey area. As even though CCP does have it that the trading of ISK for 'real' world cash is against the EULA, and that by several legal mechanics they do own all ISK anyhow. But the fact that a black market exist for cash to ISK exchanging also establishes that there is a real world value for it as people are willing to trade some form of currency for them at an established rate. Also, the exchanging of UTC bought with cash for ISK also establishes a 'real' world value by proxy of the relation of UTC price, to ISK trade.
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"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in getting up every time we do." - Confucius, Chinese philosopher & reformer (551 BC - 479 BC.) |
Typhado3
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:49:00 -
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YAY now the make a wish foundation can give out free titans =)
2 issues
1. a cap on how much, don't want ccp going bankrupt
2. must be legitimate fund (ccp/your beer fund are not legitimate)
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