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Razin
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Posted - 2008.08.10 00:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational. 
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 01:28:12
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 10/08/2008 01:02:10
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational.
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
As for strategic bombers, I guess you're referring to the Tu-22M that was reportedly lost over Georgia. Speculation on the internet is that it was carrying a payload to bust up one of the Georgian military air bases.
hmm, why did s.ossetia refugee's say it was only in the hundreds? you killed 60 civillian alone today missing a military base (how you do that i'll never know)
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Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:36:00 -
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I think most reasonable people will agree that the hourlong shelling of a civillian town (without prior warning to the population) is not the nicest thing to do.
Also, most people might agree that killing 1000 people (within a few hours) of a population of 75000 is pretty serious business.
If an an attack of this magnitude continues for two months, than the population of 75000 would be reduced to close to 0.
In light of this concideration, an intervention to such an attack would seem reasonable - maybe even neccessary - in my view.
In other words: Georgia gave Russia a very good reason to intervene.
Of course, we all know in politics not everything is as it seems.
Even though Russia might have a good - easy to understand - reason to intervene, this does not mean Russia might not also have other goals in mind (yup, there is an oil pipeline running thorugh Georgia...).
In the end, unlike in EVE - where war is always good IMHO  - in RL war is always a big messy pile of s$&!, and is best avoided.
Let's hope this whole mess is over as soon as possible.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:43:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 01:28:12
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 10/08/2008 01:02:10
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational.
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
As for strategic bombers, I guess you're referring to the Tu-22M that was reportedly lost over Georgia. Speculation on the internet is that it was carrying a payload to bust up one of the Georgian military air bases.
hmm, why did s.ossetia refugee's say it was only in the hundreds? you killed 60 civillian alone today missing a military base (how you do that i'll never know)
Outdated maps, I'm sure.
P.S. I guess "in the hundreds" makes it a-ok then.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:46:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 01:28:12
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 10/08/2008 01:02:10
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational.
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
As for strategic bombers, I guess you're referring to the Tu-22M that was reportedly lost over Georgia. Speculation on the internet is that it was carrying a payload to bust up one of the Georgian military air bases.
hmm, why did s.ossetia refugee's say it was only in the hundreds? you killed 60 civillian alone today missing a military base (how you do that i'll never know)
Outdated maps, I'm sure.
P.S. I guess "in the hundreds" makes it a-ok then.
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
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Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:55:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Thorliaron, would you say that people should idly stand by and watch while someone is shelling a civilian town for hours, killing many - while they could intervene?
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Razin
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:58:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.10 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:01:08
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
lol they won't be going to the hague, but i will have some of what your smoking bro
Stalin or Putin. Once a Russian always a Russian. Some things never change. A leopard never changes it's spots
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:10:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 10/08/2008 01:02:10
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational.
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
As for strategic bombers, I guess you're referring to the Tu-22M that was reportedly lost over Georgia. Speculation on the internet is that it was carrying a payload to bust up one of the Georgian military air bases.
I know only what news articles offer. Several I read mentioned Russia using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles. I can't go back and find all of them, but here is one Linkage. Very well might be US propaganda, but there would be a grain of truth in there somewhere.
Georgia only owns 7 SU-25s according to information posted on BBC site. How much is there to bomb? I can see how strategic bombers can be used to damage airstrip beyond repair so it can not accept any cargo planes with supplies or additional troops that are being redeployed from Iraq, but it still strikes me as a massive overkill especially that it would also deny delivery by air of any international aid Georgia might be needing after the war is over.
Use of ballistic missiles may or may not be true as there is no visual evidence and Russia will not acknowledge their use. And is virtually impossible to film a ballistic missile strike. But if they are used, it is pretty outrageous.
Now on the topic of the GRAD artillery. It was a criminal act to use them, but two wrongs don't make one right. With its immense numerical and in many ways technological advantage Russia can do a much cleaner job at dismantling Georgian military.
I am a pro-Russian Ukrainian, and technically consider myself a Russian, but I am not going to approve everything Russia is doing. Many deaths can be and could be avoided. There is no show of strength in dealing unnecessary damage when it can be avoided.
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Victor Vision
Amarr
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:16:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Use of ballistic missiles may or may not be true as there is no visual evidence and Russia will not acknowledge their use. And is virtually impossible to film a ballistic missile strike. But if they are used, it is pretty outrageous.
Now on the topic of the GRAD artillery. It was a criminal act to use them, but two wrongs don't make one right. With its immense numerical and in many ways technological advantage Russia can do a much cleaner job at dismantling Georgian military.
I am a pro-Russian Ukrainian, and technically consider myself a Russian, but I am not going to approve everything Russia is doing. Many deaths can be and could be avoided. There is no show of strength in dealing unnecessary damage when it can be avoided.
Very nice wording, could not agree more.
Only thing I would add is that the Russian intervention should also be as short as possible. The sooner this is resolved, the better.
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Razin
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:25:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:10:00
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:01:08
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
lol they won't be going to the hague, but i will have some of what your smoking bro
I could of sworn that n.a.z.i germany invaded the Sudetenland under the same pretext of which you are doing in Georgia
Goodwin's law at work! I concede your defeat.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:35:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:36:55
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:10:00
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:01:08
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
lol they won't be going to the hague, but i will have some of what your smoking bro
I could of sworn that n.a.z.i germany invaded the Sudetenland under the same pretext of which you are doing in Georgia
Goodwin's law at work! I concede your defeat.
oh im sorry that the similarities are there and that you have now run out of comebacks other than this bs. kthnxbye
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:45:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Originally by: Razin
Edited by: Razin on 10/08/2008 01:02:10
Originally by: Tecam Hund
Seems Russia is also using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles now, or at least the news is out. Using front line fighter-bombers to take out military installations is one thing, but using weapons of such limited accuracy and immense firepower is way beyond rational.
Now, the fact the Georgia used Grad (Hail) MLRS (area effect weapon) to kill over a thousand civilians in the Ossetian capital is on film and indisputable. Can you provide a credible source for Russia using ballistic missiles?
As for strategic bombers, I guess you're referring to the Tu-22M that was reportedly lost over Georgia. Speculation on the internet is that it was carrying a payload to bust up one of the Georgian military air bases.
I know only what news articles offer. Several I read mentioned Russia using strategic bombers and ballistic missiles. I can't go back and find all of them, but here is one Linkage. Very well might be US propaganda, but there would be a grain of truth in there somewhere.
Georgia only owns 7 SU-25s according to information posted on BBC site. How much is there to bomb? I can see how strategic bombers can be used to damage airstrip beyond repair so it can not accept any cargo planes with supplies or additional troops that are being redeployed from Iraq, but it still strikes me as a massive overkill especially that it would also deny delivery by air of any international aid Georgia might be needing after the war is over.
Use of ballistic missiles may or may not be true as there is no visual evidence and Russia will not acknowledge their use. And is virtually impossible to film a ballistic missile strike. But if they are used, it is pretty outrageous.
Now on the topic of the GRAD artillery. It was a criminal act to use them, but two wrongs don't make one right. With its immense numerical and in many ways technological advantage Russia can do a much cleaner job at dismantling Georgian military.
I am a pro-Russian Ukrainian, and technically consider myself a Russian, but I am not going to approve everything Russia is doing. Many deaths can be and could be avoided. There is no show of strength in dealing unnecessary damage when it can be avoided.
The article quotes an anonymous source in the Bush administration, saying that anonymity is justified by "sensitive nature of the situation". Sounds like BS to me.
However, the justification for use of ballistic missiles in and of itself really depends on the target and the warhead used. Georgians aren't being shy in using every heavy piece of military equipment they have, and they need to be stopped as soon as possible to curb the loss of Russian and Ossetian lives. If some Georgian civilians end up paying the ultimate price in the process, they have only their puppet government to thank for it. War is hell, and Georgians started it.
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Razin
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:49:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:36:55
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:10:00
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:01:08
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
lol they won't be going to the hague, but i will have some of what your smoking bro
I could of sworn that n.a.z.i germany invaded the Sudetenland under the same pretext of which you are doing in Georgia
Goodwin's law at work! I concede your defeat.
oh im sorry that the similarities are there and that you have now run out of comebacks other than this bs. kthnxbye
There are some similarities between you and a monkey, so you must live in a tree and make funny noises. Truth according to Thorliaron.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.10 02:51:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:36:55
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:10:00
Edited by: Thorliaron on 10/08/2008 02:01:08
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Thorliaron
it certainly does not make it genocide like your all claiming, hell your even on your way to casuing more Georgian civillian deaths than S.ossetian
Where did I claim genocide? You are hallucinating (btw, latest count is over 2000 civilians killed by Georgia armed forces).
Georgians, having started this bloodbath, having murdered wounded Russian peacekeepers, can't really complain about what's coming to them. Including their day of infamy at the Hague.
lol they won't be going to the hague, but i will have some of what your smoking bro
I could of sworn that n.a.z.i germany invaded the Sudetenland under the same pretext of which you are doing in Georgia
Goodwin's law at work! I concede your defeat.
oh im sorry that the similarities are there and that you have now run out of comebacks other than this bs. kthnxbye
There are some similarities between you and a monkey, so you must live in a tree and make funny noises. Truth according to Thorliaron.
calm down rusky. no need to resort to insults now
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Kzintee
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.10 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Kzintee on 10/08/2008 03:24:12
Ballistic missiles? For real?
If so called "ballistic missiles" were used then Georgia would have been a giant ice-skating rink.
The 7 Su-25 "Grach" fighter bombers that Georgia has can still do damage if they are allowed to reign free, so knocking out the airfields is expected.
It's actually a more humane thing to do instead of just dropping those planes out of the sky.
Anyway, this was going to be and is progressing as a propaganda war. The US is doing their part in showing the "Civilian houses destroyed by Russian airstrikes" (same house over and over again) near the military base.
The good news for Russia is that we're now bombing Kodor pass. This was used by Chechen mercs as a place to hide out from Russian army (Yes, Georgia was hiding terrorists fighting in Chechnya...I know, another Russian propaganda), maybe this time we'll flush them out too.
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2008.08.10 03:44:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Kzintee
Edited by: Kzintee on 10/08/2008 03:24:12
Ballistic missiles? For real?
If so called "ballistic missiles" were used then Georgia would have been a giant ice-skating rink.
Tactical ballistic missiles known as Scud in the west. Highly inaccurate capable of carrying about a metric ton of payload.
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Kzintee
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.10 04:16:00 -
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I'm sorry if I appear a little disbelieving here. One report by "anonymous" source about use of strategic bombers and ballistic missiles, multiplied by every news agency still doesn't make it true.
The Tu-22M bombers in question could be used, that doesn't seem to be a problem. They can be fitted to carry conventional bomb payload or cruise missiles. A lot of weaponry that 22M carries is used for destroying radio locator stations or command centers. So is that all of a sudden bad now? Why throw 10 small bombers at the task when you can just hit it once with a big bomber.
Should US be criticized now for using B-52s in Afghanistan or Vietnam or Iraq...talk about disproportional response. How about Israel retaliation against Lebanon...
War is dirty business guys, there is no "disproportional" response, you don't bring a rock to a gunfight and go "Ok...everyone, all I got is a rock, so you all drop your guns and grab some rocks".
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Adare Schmidt
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Posted - 2008.08.10 08:45:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Kzintee
Edited by: Kzintee on 10/08/2008 03:24:12
If so called "ballistic missiles" were used then Georgia would have been a giant ice-skating rink.
"Ballistic Missile" does not necessarily mean nuclear weapons, though it is a common mistake for people who don't know a lot about the subject to make (not saying that you don't of course).
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.10 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 10/08/2008 11:35:56
Originally by: pwnedgato
I wonder what Russia stands to gain by protecting the Ossetians. Also both sides are probably guilty of at least some hyperbole. (not that the truth lies directly in the center)
They probably want a russian friendly government in Georgia and they will stop at nothing to impose that. It's a pity that the Georgians didn't know better.
During WW2 Russians used to crucify/nail enemy officers to doors and the Germans also. But somehow the Germans never resorted to something like this when fighting the rest of the allies. Don't you ask yourselves why?
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Thorliaron
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Posted - 2008.08.10 12:54:00 -
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so russian forces are moving to take the town of Gori with 0 Russian citizens in it.
oh and now your helping Abkhazia
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Kayuk
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kayuk on 10/08/2008 13:14:15
Originally by: YouGotRipped
Edited by: YouGotRipped on 10/08/2008 11:45:24
During WW2 Russians used to crucify/nail enemy officers to doors and the Germans also. But somehow the Germans never resorted to something like that when fighting the rest of the Allies. Don't you ask yourselves why?
Yeah, russians forced german women to eat alive their german babies. Man, you need to get out of your pod from time to time. And if you want to talk about history - you need to learn history. Fairy tales will do no good to you.
try this page for beginning - http://www.khatyn.by/en/
****s considered jews and gypsies to be 100% racially defective. 100% of them were subject to extermination. You should have heard something about jews extermination. Belarussians were considered 50% racially defective. So there was a strategy to kill 50% of them and make labour slaves of the rest. During the execution of this plan every 4th Belarussian was killed. If the war lasted longer, ****s would probably reach their targets.
P.S. Asterics have something against the "natzie" word. And I don't want to use the word "germans"
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dirtyafro
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Posted - 2008.08.10 13:52:00 -
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World mass media conduct propagation of a false information.
Russia DID NOT ATTACK Georgia!
07.08.2008 at 22:00 Georgia has attacked South Ossetia.
At 3:30 08.08.2008 tanks of the Georgian armies have entered into city Tskhinvali. Artillery bombardment all the day long proceeded, fights with use of tanks and heavy combat material, both against ossetic armies, and against peace inhabitants were conducted. 2000 civil people already were lost. The Russian peacemakers have arrived to South Ossetia in the evening
08.08.2008 for settlement of the conflict and prompting of the world in republic and protection of the Russian citizens living on territory of South Ossetia. Georgia has attacked South Ossetia on eve of Olympiad, it is top of cruelty and cynicism. Proofs and video-materials look on : www.1tvrus.com/ , www.1tv.ru/owa/win/ort6_main.main , www.rian.ru/ , www.vesti.ru/news , news.ntv.ru/ , www.ren-tv.com/ , www.newsru.com/
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Junko Ni'Kan
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:19:00 -
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Yeah, ill start looking for info in the russian media. All the news there are not at all biased and reflect the situation perfectly...
Fact is, nothing gets published in the russian media that isnt accepted by Mr Putin. Lets be honest, most of it is lies and crap. Honestly sometimes it makes me laugh when i read people taking the info they get from there as the truth.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:26:00 -
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German news got it in the right order: Georgia marched into South Ossetia. Then proceeded to shoot russians and bragged about it. Russia then rolled some tanks in and started air strikes.
Now Russia being Russia isn't doing half assed jobs and is tying up the loose ends in the area.
The US being the US is using the situation for the election. If terror doesn't work anymore, invoke the Russian Menace.
It's pathetic really.
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Kayuk
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Junko Ni'Kan
Fact is, nothing gets published in the russian media that isnt accepted by Mr Putin. Lets be honest, most of it is lies and crap. Honestly sometimes it makes me laugh when i read people taking the info they get from there as the truth.
Man, you so right, so right... Mr. Putin personally checks every piece of information in Russian media and fills it with lies and crap. Nothing gets into the media without his signature. He was so busy over the past days. Are you from an elf country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WYjolZab9A - this is from Georgian TV. It shows georgian troops in Tskhinvali trying to kill a civilian. Not sure if they have success. And it is openly shown on Georgian TV to boost morale probably. Our brave guys will soon shoot all ossetians! Rejoice!
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:09:00 -
[267]
No, his goons do it for him.
List of journalists killed in Russia since Putin.
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Kayuk
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:30:00 -
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what does this list prove or say? Journalists get killed at battleground and overal criminal situation in Russia is not healthy. But it looks like Putin is killing journalists. Every case is unique.
Aleksandr Yefremov. A photojournalist of the western Siberian newspaper Nashe Vremya was killed in Chechnya when rebels blew up a military jeep in which he was riding. - killed by Chechen "rebels"
Vladimir Yatsina, February 20, 2000. A correspondent for ITAR-TASS, he was kidnapped and later killed by a group of Wahhabis in Chechnya - "rebels" again
Ilyas Shurpayev, Dagestani journalist responsible for news coverage of Northern Caucasus on Channel One, was strangled with a belt in Moscow. - this guy invited a total stranger from Moldova to his appartment and got killed and robbed.
Ilya Zimin, he worked for NTV Russia television channel, killed in Moscow by a gay acquaintance - love affair gone wrong
Ivan Safronov, Military columninst of newspaper "Kommersant". Died in Moscow on March 2 - cause of death disputed. - He was killed by Putin himself, I tell you!
Do you have a list of killed electricians? Do you have anything to say regarding the report from Georgian TV?
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Junko Ni'Kan
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Posted - 2008.08.10 16:22:00 -
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Rofl Chechen rebels....that says it all.(These "terrorists" are another fruit of great russian politics but im not gonna get into that)
The sad part is that most of the population of russia believes in the crap that gets fed to them with the media.
Im not gonna bother with this anymore. There is so many delusional guys in here that its just not worth the effort. I guess thats what a lifetime of propaganda does.
Fact is that there is not much difference between 1930's Germany and todays russia.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Junko Ni'Kan
Rofl Iraki rebels....that says it all.(These "terrorists" are another fruit of great US politics but im not gonna get into that)
The sad part is that most of the population of the US believes in the crap that gets fed to them with the media.
Im not gonna bother with this anymore. There is so many delusional guys in here that its just not worth the effort. I guess thats what a lifetime of propaganda does.
Fact is that there is not much difference between 1930's Germany and todays USA.
Fixed. The interesting part is that it's equally valid as the original.
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