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Celestial Divinity
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:10:00 -
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I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:10:00 -
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You CAN petition people for abuse you know.
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Barbens
Sky Net Industries Pure.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:10:00 -
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Welcome to eve. Goodbye...
BaRbEnS
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Another Liberthas
Caldari Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:11:00 -
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Sorry, but that's how the internet is.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:12:00 -
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Honestly if you get that much abuse i doubt you are the innocent angel you pretend to be. Vote against the nano nerf! |

Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink You CAN petition people for abuse you know.
QFT
Boost SISI VOTE NOW! |

Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Plumpy McPudding on 12/08/2008 14:14:09
Think your shit smells better than most? I doubt you're the victim and deserved this abuse. __________________________
Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream. |

Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:14:00 -
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haha welcome to the internet.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Celestial Divinity If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
So we should all learn from your example? -
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CCP Navigator
C C P

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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:15:00 -
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Celestial Divinity,
If you feel you are suffering abuse or harassment from other players the you should submit a petition by navigating down the left hand menu on the forums and selecting "Create New Petition". Select the option "Rules and Policies", then "Harassment".
Once you fill out the details a GM will be more than happy to review your petition.
As you say - it is a great game and there are a lot of brilliant Corporations who do not engage in pointless smack. Stick with it and it only gets better 
Navigator Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Shintai
Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:15:00 -
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New alt just for this post? Wow...
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Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:19:00 -
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i dont grief people in game, someone once said the "n" word on local and i got on their case about it though
your stuff?
anyway, honestly dude, people (most) in this game, dont just come into a system and start trash talking YOU, they might start trashing someone else, and you get mad, then they start flaming you
or myabe your a year old or something, and every time someone says something, you tell them they are ******ed, or stupid, and they flame you for it, ive seen those people to
bottom line is, they dont come into the system to flame YOU, because frankly, your probably not that important
go on local and start convoes, make people laugh
like yesterday, i got in my itty mk2, moving all my stuff 3 jumps, and in each system along the way, i would say something like:
*soldieroffortune gets out and pushes his iteron full of valuable ore and t2 hardeners**
soldieroffortune > align faster dammit
soldieroffortune > oops, wrong channel
i got tons of laugh on each local for joking around
so honestly, dont make yourself known, you wont get flamed simple as that
and if you believe what those people say, you do need to leave eve and come back when your 16 or 17 and ignore those comments
there is also the lovely "block" function
so honestly, if you are leaving, can i have your stuff?
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Vladimir Griftin
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vladimir Griftin on 12/08/2008 14:22:10
Originally by: Celestial Divinity If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
That's pretty much how it is in EVE too, don't sulk about it, KICK THEIR ASSES!
There is not much in life more satisfying than killing some moron after he has been smacking you for the last hour.
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Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:21:00 -
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Gee, I guess they weren't told the "safe word". 
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Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
This is a good example of why Eve's move to support the 'carebears' is welcomed, Eve's "hardcore" PvP only brings the ugly out of people even more so people that have no social life and feel their only way to gain is to "virtual bully" |

Lyvv
Amarr Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:25:00 -
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What a spaz. Being 24 and stupid doesnt excuse your ignorance.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Celestial Divinity
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
That generalisation hurt my feelings. :(
I would petition it but you're leaving. 
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Garr Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Garr Khan on 12/08/2008 14:35:32 Edited by: Garr Khan on 12/08/2008 14:33:46 You shouldn't let them bully you out. especialy if you enjoy the game.
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:35:00 -
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Celestial, I don't think that Eve is for you.
As mentioned by others, its highly unlikely that you're the target of some vast conspiricy. People probably flame you because of your actions, or because you respond to them. See, its your fault. There are a lot of sick bastards out there who troll to get their jollies. You apparently are guility of feeding them, if not outright being an ass in the first place. (I personally think that their typing is so bad because their other hand is ... 'busy')
So... we've established that this behavior is part of Eve and that you're a violent person who would knife someone cuz they didn't like your hair. What's the next step?
Either:
1> Grow a pair and shoot them. Eve allows them to smack you, but you can also smack back harder via war decs, etc.
2> Quit Eve. In which case, since I clearly deserve to be here, Can I Have Your Stuff?
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FlameGlow
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:36:00 -
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Ooo, now look what you've done, now make nice, and give the emokid a hug  _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |

Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
This is a good example of why Eve's move to support the 'carebears' is welcomed, Eve's "hardcore" PvP only brings the ugly out of people even more so people that have no social life and feel their only way to gain is to "virtual bully"
Also a prime example of why many of us who have enjoyed EvE for YEARS don't play other games. CCP doesn't try to impose it's values or morals on people, and thus you are left to defend and protect yourself.
There is such a choice. Changing EvE because players don't accept the responsibility of taking care of themselves is probably the worst that can happen in this game.
I don't go bullying others, but I ain't here to cry when someone pushes me, either. I play EvE because I know that I have the means to defend myself, and I like how it puts me in that spot. If I wanted to have a preacher in charge of me, I'd play one of the many other MMO's on the market.
So you want security? That's perfectly alright. But you should be willing to trade freedom and profit for that security. |

Baleine4Nerver
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:39:00 -
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I do sympathise with the OP.. I think the net in general gives people a false Bravado where they feel they can be abusive and nasty without consequence..
I do also think that EVE being the fantastic game it is, sometimes brings out the worst in people. The game demands effort and thought, in such you invest a lot of feeling into it, which in turn encourages people to;
1 - Gloat when they succeed or win. 2 - Whine, when it goes wrong.
Ive had 2 experiences recently, in FW.. in moments of madness, Ive suffered several losses recently,
The first, was to a caldari pilot, who applauded my gameplay, I was in an Arbitrator, he in a hurricane, I knew I was on a loser, but engaged him anyway. Maaged to get him into half armour.. but popped. We had a chat in local after, and all was well.
The second was different altogether, again FW, I was ganked solo by a 5 strong gang. They proceeded to pat each other on the back for an outstanding win... like I had a chance, abuse me in local, and send me eve mails linking to various pics on the net.
A totally different experience, one which left a nasty taste in the mouth, I wont be leaving though, i just wont read local any more :)
Long story short, there are some bottom dwellers and good people in EVE, dont generalise, and dont leave because of a couple of knock backs. Just ignore it.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity ....
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Also a prime example of why many of us who have enjoyed EvE for YEARS don't play other games. ......
Its not enough anymore, that number of player is not enough to keep a large subscription base in order to exapand and maintain an MMO, should CCP not be able to increase their player base in order to increase revenue their "free expansions" and "hardware upgrades" will start to diminish and eventualy lead to closure its just a fact of economics and market.
People in general (the masses) do not like this type of PvP ruleset and will always out weigh you me and the rest of the PvP shuttle popers that play Eve.
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Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Another Liberthas Sorry, but that's how the internet is.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Del ReyII
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:48:00 -
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The Op is just annoyed that he couldn't scam me for 70bil after a 1 hour convo.
Dont worry he will get over it.
As I said, Welcome to Eve, or in this case goodbye.. your choice.
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Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
This is a good example of why Eve's move to support the 'carebears' is welcomed, Eve's "hardcore" PvP only brings the ugly out of people even more so people that have no social life and feel their only way to gain is to "virtual bully"
Au contraire, my bandwaggoning chum. It's generally the carebears who are the worst and most abusive smack-talkers. People who can, in fact, fight generally let their guns do the talking. People who can only hide in stations are the ones who generally run their mouth. And pilots who fight all the time tend to shrug when they lose a ship; people who believe they should be entitled to safety no matter how carelessly, lazyily or foolishly they play are the ones who froth like rabid little chipmunks when they lose a minespray.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 12/08/2008 14:54:23 It's a pretty common problem that people react differently behind the keyboard than they do in real life, due to the insulation, or the perception that the person on the receiving end somehow isn't real.
EVE is an MMO and a social game. It's populated by the real world. Oddly enough, the real world is full of jerks, unpleasant people, those who are selfish, ignorant, or insensitive. EVE is unlikely to be different. To be honest, every MMO has them, it's just that EVE attracts them like shit attracts flies, because here you can do pretty much anything in-game. Does that make EVE bad? Far from it - a dog is just being a dog, when it urinates on a fire hydrant you can't blame the world or the fire hydrant, or even the dog, it's just its nature. In EVE at least you can blow the dog to smithereens.
I'd say that EVE is equally an RPG and some people roleplay jerks, but that's stretching it a bit I think (some do, but it's not that many).
Block them, don't rise to them, and go find the people worth spending time talking to. They're out there. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... |

5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 12/08/2008 14:54:12
Nvm.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity ....
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Au contraire, my bandwaggoning chum. It's generally the carebears who are the worst and most abusive smack-talkers. People who can, in fact, fight generally let their guns do the talking. People who can only hide in stations are the ones who generally run their mouth. And pilots who fight all the time tend to shrug when they lose a ship; people who believe they should be entitled to safety no matter how carelessly, lazyily or foolishly they play are the ones who froth like rabid little chipmunks when they lose a minespray.
Its not a matter of 'finger pointing' its Eve core PvP ruleset that brings out the worst of people and the fact that if it continues Eve will never claim larger subscription numbers and eventually be unable to turn a profit in order to maintain their MMO. So say as you wish, the truth of the matter is unless there is change Eve will never scale!
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity ....
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Also a prime example of why many of us who have enjoyed EvE for YEARS don't play other games. ......
Its not enough anymore, that number of player is not enough to keep a large subscription base in order to exapand and maintain an MMO, should CCP not be able to increase their player base in order to increase revenue their "free expansions" and "hardware upgrades" will start to diminish and eventualy lead to closure its just a fact of economics and market.
People in general (the masses) do not like this type of PvP ruleset and will always out weigh you me and the rest of the PvP shuttle popers that play Eve.
Do you have to sacrifice the principle of player competition in order to get a larger customer base?
Many forget that business ownership is not just about the amount of customers. For some, it's about a quality product, or providing to a specific audience. How much does EvE have to give up (and yes, I think it's a loss), in order to reach this utopia of millions of players?
It shouldn't stop growing. But nor should it try to appeal to a playerbase who DONT WANT THE GAME ANYHOW. If you are playing EvE to play a single-player game with an IM, why are you playing EvE?
Claiming that CCP should bend or fold to support the 'majority' is a poor argument. Should the rest of the world bend and fold because east asia has the majority of human beings?
To appeal to the vast majority, you have to make things simple, and easy. Why? Because human beings as a group are stupid. Individuals are smart, but the reason WoW survives is because it markets to the lowest common denominator of the playerbase. The stupidest, poorest, laziest and most naive.
WoW is not the benchmark for the gaming community. EvE is. Build a quality product for a dedicated playerbase. The guys who have been here years are still here (though some take breaks). But when someone complains about not liking it and how their friends won't come over to play, I have to wonder why you want to change the game to fit you, instead of recognizing that it's not the kind of game you enjoy.
If you think "but I like EvE, except for the PvP", then please recognize that no, in fact, you don't like EvE.
So you want security? That's perfectly alright. But you should be willing to trade freedom and profit for that security. |

Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake Its not a matter of 'finger pointing' its Eve core PvP ruleset that brings out the worst of people and the fact that if it continues Eve will never claim larger subscription numbers and eventually be unable to turn a profit in order to maintain their MMO. So say as you wish, the truth of the matter is unless there is change Eve will never scale!
PvP doesn't bring out the worst in people, frustration and/or people bring out the worst in people. I've had plenty of PvP in many games that is about skill, a good fight, and testing yourself against another person, and everyone is mature about it. Equally in many games I've seen degenerate immature smacktalking from those that are both new and veteran PvPers. People are the problem, not the environment they're put in. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation or alliance, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... |

Vek NaVek
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Posted - 2008.08.12 14:59:00 -
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Hi EternalDragon
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Primnproper
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Primnproper on 12/08/2008 15:05:46
Originally by: Celestial Divinity If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
Good to here that your the sort of mature, balanced individual who responds to other peoples words with violence, which of course is always the best thing you can do and makes you look and feel like a really big man. |

Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Ruze
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Celestial Divinity ....
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Also a prime example of why many of us who have enjoyed EvE for YEARS don't play other games. ......
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Do you have to sacrifice the principle of player competition in order to get a larger customer base?
Many forget that business ownership is not just about the amount of customers. For some, it's about a quality product, or providing to a specific audience. How much does EvE have to give up (and yes, I think it's a loss), in order to reach this utopia of millions of players?
It shouldn't stop growing. But nor should it try to appeal to a playerbase who DONT WANT THE GAME ANYHOW. If you are playing EvE to play a single-player game with an IM, why are you playing EvE?
Claiming that CCP should bend or fold to support the 'majority' is a poor argument. Should the rest of the world bend and fold because east asia has the majority of human beings?
To appeal to the vast majority, you have to make things simple, and easy. Why? Because human beings as a group are stupid. Individuals are smart, but the reason WoW survives is because it markets to the lowest common denominator of the playerbase. The stupidest, poorest, laziest and most naive.
WoW is not the benchmark for the gaming community. EvE is. Build a quality product for a dedicated playerbase. The guys who have been here years are still here (though some take breaks). But when someone complains about not liking it and how their friends won't come over to play, I have to wonder why you want to change the game to fit you, instead of recognizing that it's not the kind of game you enjoy.
If you think "but I like EvE, except for the PvP", then please recognize that no, in fact, you don't like EvE.
Geez so much to type where to begin.... Ok i think ill stop at the above comment you just made, YES it is about customers we pay bills we fund the game in order to keep maintaining it, we the CUSTOMER is what business is all about! At the end of the day whine as you may but its all about money, CCP is like any other company and turning a profit is their goal. Now granted it may have started as a personal game project at one point but eventually grew and entered a area where the consumer dictates product and NOT the company, We the consumer have choices and CCP knows this. Yes i dont have to play Eve and i dont have to pay for it, but i enjoy it however the majority of new players that come to Eve rarely renew subscriptions and last more than their trial period all due to CCP old school PvP ruleset which needs to change.
Oh and incase you havent realized (and im no WOW fanbui) WOW IS THE BENCHMARK blizz has accomplished what most MMO companies would dream of!! Their subscription numbers have made many developers and desingers RICH! not to mention a huge resume booster! WOW may not be a great quality product (as stated as your opinion) but the TRUE FACT remains they have achieved insane subscription numbers AND CONTINUE to grow, Eve however isnt even 1% of WOW player base, so yes im sure someone there did something right!
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Esmenet Honestly if you get that much abuse i doubt you are the innocent angel you pretend to be.
This 
People seem fine to me. Yes there's quite a few asshats about but it's not like you can't ignore them - unlike in RL 
Should never take anything on the internet seriously anyway.
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Corduroy Rab
Xenocidal Uprising
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:16:00 -
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I found that the majority of eve players are actually rather pleasant to talk with, even if they just blew up your ship. I have also found that smack begets smack. Perhaps if you are being treated poorly you should look inwardly first.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Astria Tiphareth
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake ....
PvP doesn't bring out the worst in people, frustration and/or people bring out the worst in people. I've had plenty of PvP in many games that is about skill, a good fight, and testing yourself against another person, and everyone is mature about it. Equally in many games I've seen degenerate immature smacktalking from those that are both new and veteran PvPers. People are the problem, not the environment they're put in.
Eve isnt a skill related PvP system, its actually a very old school rock, paper and scissors system based on chance. Skill would require some kind of hand / eye cordination and tracking of events, Eve doesnt provide this. At its simplest its about your chance to go up against another player that your setup will counter and thats about it.
And yes PvP does bring the worst in people because its an avenue that allows it.
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eliminator2
Gallente You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:19:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
can i havez ur stuff?
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Preliator
Caldari Libera Confero
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:23:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Celestial
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.[/quote
You know, if that's the way you talk to people in game, I wouldn't be surprised if you got abuse.
Over the 3 1/2 years I've played, I've met too many awesome and helpful people to count. You're either taking one or two comments way too seriously or you provoked it.
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Karhig Mori
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake WOW IS THE BENCHMARK blizz has accomplished what most MMO companies would dream of!!
Wow is the benchmark only in making money. This is only one benchmark. I don't think Eve has ever tried to be like WoW, something I am glad of and something that has kept me interested (on one character or another) since pre-beta.
Customers do pay the bills and are important, but they're also fickle. If you just bend to their every whim then you're bound to fail eventually because your product will be a confused maladjusted mess. Games should have some aspirations to being more than just money making devices. Eve is an excellent example of this and the unique 'flame' of it's aspirations is, by and large, well kept by CCP. If they make money in the meanwhile then "Yay!", but I've never got the impression that that is ALL they want to do with Eve. That's why it's better than the likes of WoW in many, many ways.
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
What? Are you dense? Just don't talk to folk like that, and get intpo a nice corp, then its all good ;)
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:27:00 -
[42]
I'm going to have to agree with the others who suggest that the community is NOT particularly abusive.
In fact, I suspect the nature of PvP in Eve occassionally reminds people to watch their words.
I'm an easygoing fairly amiable player. But even if I weren't I might choose my words carefully, just realizing how much one player or a few players can do to interfere with my plans.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:30:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Karhig Mori
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake WOW IS THE BENCHMARK blizz has accomplished what most MMO companies would dream of!!
Wow is the benchmark only in making money. This is only one benchmark. I don't think Eve has ever tried to be like WoW, something I am glad of and something that has kept me interested (on one character or another) since pre-beta.
Customers do pay the bills and are important, but they're also fickle. If you just bend to their every whim then you're bound to fail eventually because your product will be a confused maladjusted mess. Games should have some aspirations to being more than just money making devices. Eve is an excellent example of this and the unique 'flame' of it's aspirations is, by and large, well kept by CCP. If they make money in the meanwhile then "Yay!", but I've never got the impression that that is ALL they want to do with Eve. That's why it's better than the likes of WoW in many, many ways.
Even though i agree with your comment (to a point) i have to state the fact that CCP is still and will always be in the business to make money. Look at their recent trends and their attempt to market and expand and you will soon realize CCP is indeed trying to make more money in order to expand, and in order to make money (unless they know a better way) is to attract a larger player base.
And yes WOW is the benchmark for money making in MMO's, but Money is what keep the company growing and expanding. Its no longer the days that a group of talented programmers, aritist musicians and so on can simply relay on a good idea base on principle, its all about money and in todays economy its double that!
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:32:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Another Liberthas Sorry, but that's how the internet is.
It does not have to be though.
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Richard Angevian
The Crusaders.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:52:00 -
[45]
Originally by: CCP Navigator Celestial Divinity,
If you feel you are suffering abuse or harassment from other players the you should submit a petition by navigating down the left hand menu on the forums and selecting "Create New Petition". Select the option "Rules and Policies", then "Harassment".
Once you fill out the details a GM will be more than happy to review your petition.
As you say - it is a great game and there are a lot of brilliant Corporations who do not engage in pointless smack. Stick with it and it only gets better 
Of course the worst corps and alliances who engage in this (Band of Developers, Goons) are untouchable. Try submitting a harassment petition on any of them.
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Mother Lucilla
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Posted - 2008.08.12 16:59:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Mother Lucilla on 12/08/2008 17:00:38 Troll, definately. I don't mind feeding it though 
This is just the millionth post of "People are so cruel, I'm gonna go away!"-type, but I can generally sympathize with the OP. Many times I've had hard earned ISK gone up in smoke because somebody flipped my can, salvaged my wrecks or caught up with me in low-sec. And when I was a noob... I made the mistake of showing my frustration over local.
Let me tell you this about letting your frustration show in local: Everybody there will try to make an ass out of a whiner no matter how right he is. Most of them will cry "foul!" themselves if the time comes but when somebody else gets crapped upon everybody just joins the smack talk to crap on him a little more. When you're the one being crapped upon it's no fun, but when you're the one doing the crapping... it's like a little party 
The important thing is: DON'T FEED THE FIRE! I've lost a BS to a ganking once in high-sec. I felt like eating the keyboard, but instead I let it be and said over local that it was my own stupidity for trusting someone in this game that got my bs. People on local were supportive and we all joked around for a bit. It didn't get me my BS back, but in 10 minutes I sure was feeling a lot more mellow then if I'd started smack talking you know?
The important thing is to never ever trust strangers and to keep talk on local to a minimum, if you're in a corp, talk in corp chat if you're feeling "chatty". And if you're angry at somebody, try congratulating them for their "smart moves", most griefers feed on smack and you can make them feel bad just by "being okay" with it all 
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:03:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Avon on 12/08/2008 17:03:47
If you work hard in game you can earn enough ISK to buy a GTC, then you can get the abuse for free. Much better than paying for it.
Just a thought
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Xevan Templar
7th Batavian Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:11:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
Read this dude, it will make alot clear for you. I suggest reading it all. You get used to it after awhile, but if it gets to much on your nerves pick another game. It's not worth it getting ****ed at a bunch off no-balls nerds.
MMO players
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Muskiet
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:37:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Xevan Templar
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
Read this dude, it will make alot clear for you. I suggest reading it all. You get used to it after awhile, but if it gets to much on your nerves pick another game. It's not worth it getting ****ed at a bunch off no-balls nerds.
MMO players
LMAO 
That is by far the best and most acurate post I've ever read! It has the awesome power of answering almost every question on this message board. Thanx for posting that.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Avenging United
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Posted - 2008.08.12 18:09:00 -
[50]
"Warning: online gameplay may change"
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Xevan Templar
7th Batavian Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.12 18:56:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Xevan Templar on 12/08/2008 18:56:23
Originally by: Muskiet
LMAO 
That is by far the best and most acurate post I've ever read! It has the awesome power of answering almost every question on this message board. Thanx for posting that.
And more people should read it! However I'm not the original poster so to say, it comes out of this thread original post, and was moved to the 'out of pot' thingy.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:13:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake crap
Way to miss his point. -
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Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:16:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Liz Laser I'm going to have to agree with the others who suggest that the community is NOT particularly abusive.
In fact, I suspect the nature of PvP in Eve occassionally reminds people to watch their words.
I'm an easygoing fairly amiable player. But even if I weren't I might choose my words carefully, just realizing how much one player or a few players can do to interfere with my plans.
TRAPS - keeping smackers out of EvE for a long time now...
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:41:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Davina Braben on 12/08/2008 19:43:17
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
This is some truly pathetic livejournal grade whinging.
I really hope for your sake that you're trolling.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:42:00 -
[55]
Did anyone else enjoy the delicious irony of the OP coming to the forums because they hated the way they were responded to ingame?
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:06:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Synapse Archae on 12/08/2008 20:10:43
Originally by: Xevan Templar
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
Read this dude, it will make alot clear for you. I suggest reading it all. You get used to it after awhile, but if it gets to much on your nerves pick another game. It's not worth it getting ****ed at a bunch off no-balls nerds.
MMO players
"YouÆll find twelve-year-olds, twelve-year-olds claiming to be thirty, thirty-year-olds who have the functional intellect of a twelve-year-old and live in their parentsÆ basement, men claiming to be women, women claiming to make sense,"    
I stopped reading right there. Sexism has no place here.
EDIT: Thought I might as well respond to the OP. Eve is all about meeting everyone in the world, without walled suburbia or social standards or (to an extent) economic barriers, and in some cases even without police, and learning to handle yourself around those people. In that sense, EVE has opened my eyes to the heights and depths of which humanity is capable, and to the fact that it takes a different kind of person to survive such exposure to raw humanity. I think the result of learning to cope in a personal world that now contains all these types of people, has made me smarter, stronger, and honestly, better.
Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:10:00 -
[57]
so get arrested for assault (in game)
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Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
I have been playing Eve for 2 years now and can't really recall receiving any abuse in chat channels before. If you are getting so much that it is stressing you, please stop and do a honest evaluation of your actions in the game. Certainly you are doing something to stand out...
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Arric Rohr
Gallente Intergalactic Science LLC
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:20:00 -
[59]
Ever been to Philadelphia?
*Where do I get one of those cool signatures?* |

Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.12 20:41:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Joey Meow on 12/08/2008 20:43:33
Originally by: Xevan Templar
MMO players
You win EVE forums for a week.
Originally by: Arric Rohr Ever been to Philadelphia?
I work there..... what's wrong with Phily? Other than occasional double homicide and public beating and assault every 24 hours?
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:04:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Vek NaVek Hi EternalDragon
If true, this explains it all.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:19:00 -
[62]
This thread is now about domestic abuse jokes.
What do you tell the woman with two black eyes?
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:26:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Xevan Templar
MMO players
OMFG, this is GOSPEL! --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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sybertek
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:27:00 -
[64]
Reading down through the posts it reminded Me of a show I saw yesterday with Jackals tearing at a live Bufflo stuck in the mud. Some of Them were full and leaving and it was still observing the one chewing It's front leg off.

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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:32:00 -
[65]
I petitioned someone today for making homophobic remarks in chat and it was dealth with in about 5 minutes. They do listen.
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sybertek
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:41:00 -
[66]
Oh...Oh...I know that one.... You tell her to stop jogging or get a breast reduction...

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Clinically
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:33:00 -
[67]
Oh hai there, welcome to the internetz ________________ Q. How do you clear a system of 400 Northern Monkeys? A. Remind them its not cyno jammed. |

Siberys
Gallente Nebula Sharks
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:40:00 -
[68]
Dude, how do you honestly survive ANY MMO? Smacktalk is a part of the internet, and we just bear through it. Laugh, accept it's probably some lifeless jerk, and get on with your life. Don't whine about it.
To quote one of my (Many) mottos, "Grin, bear it, and get on with your life" PvE is VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS... |

Roemy Schneider
BINFORD Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:47:00 -
[69]
hmmmm turn-based eve... - putting the gist back into logistics |

Robert Rosenberg
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:55:00 -
[70]
Everyone I meet is nice, be less of a douchebag and you can experience the same social joys.
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.08.12 23:10:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Esmenet Honestly if you get that much abuse i doubt you are the innocent angel you pretend to be.
This. And holy crap, if someone can make you quit the game because they yelled bad words at you OVER THE INTERNET, then there is a serious problem. All you have to do is sit back and lol at them. Problem solved. No need to get all angry over some guy calling you ugly while playing internet spaceships. ----
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Robert Rosenberg
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.12 23:18:00 -
[72]
Altpost: Actually abuse is free.
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The Ubernomicon
Eight year old girls GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.12 23:55:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
Get over yourself.
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Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.08.13 01:03:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Celestial Divinity I am just sick of the way people treat me in this game.
People feel just because there behind a monitor and 1000 miles away they can say whatever they want and be completely vile to each other.
If I had someone in the street talk shit to me like half of you do, I would be incarcerated right now for assault.
I don't get my feeling hurt, I do get ****ed however.
I just keep saying to myself why am I playing a game that's stressing the shit out of me?
Its a great game, don't get me wrong, but the amount of F"D up people playing it really ruins it for me.
I come to a mmorpg to have fun, not be abused.
Yes I am leaving, and NO you cannot have my stuff because no one here Deserves it.
Hey big guy calm down. You sound like you need a friend. Why don't you get your stuff and cruise on over to Goonfleet brosef we'll take care of you. Plz talk to Khefron. He's my best director. You can read about him in the last copy of EON.
Originally by: Crazy GankKiller LOL first u sell them the region and then u claim it back... Darius grow some integretie...
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