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Druadan
Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:37:00 -
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You could link a local delay into the sovereignty system. Have a two minute delay on local in systems that don't have any sovereignty. In systems with NPC sovereignty, remove that delay completely. In systems with player sovereignty, reduce it based on sovereignty level: 1 minute for sov level 1; 15 seconds for sov level 2, no delay for sov levels 3 and above.
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Tenoh
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:41:00 -
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Fck you bloody pvpers, you made this game suck.you only want to ruin other ppl experience and for that fck you all *****es!
I wont be wasting my money on this game anyway so go screw you selfs!
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Sneaky Tiger
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:43:00 -
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Just show player count in local, not who is in there. Or make it just like the constellation (I think, haven't used for long) channels are, you talk - you become visible.
Carebears see when someone enters system and can log out in time.
Scouts can warn for blobs.
Suggested hundreds of times.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Tenoh
Fck you bloody pvpers, you made this game suck.you only want to ruin other ppl experience and for that fck you all *****es!
I wont be wasting my money on this game anyway so go screw you selfs!
Can I have your stuff?
Oh, and complaining about PvP:ers doesn't really make sense in a game where you're involved in PvP in some for or another… well, unless you really like complaining about yourself.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:55:00 -
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You know, a module of this sort might work:
- Hides you in local, call it a "communication disruptor" or some such.
- Set timer, from 10-30 seconds.
- At that time, module activation, you're not able to talk, or activate hostile modules. Essentially a cloak.
- Penalty is that after deactivation, you can't activate hostile modules for 10-30 seconds(respectively).
This would give time to scan out people, but when you start approaching them, they've got the same "bonus time" to react.
Or some such.
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: ApaKaka on 14/08/2008 13:59:19
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
You know, a module of this sort might work:
- Hides you in local, call it a "communication disruptor" or some such.
- Set timer, from 10-30 seconds.
- At that time, module activation, you're not able to talk, or activate hostile modules. Essentially a cloak.
- Penalty is that after deactivation, you can't activate hostile modules for 10-30 seconds(respectively).
This would give time to scan out people, but when you start approaching them, they've got the same "bonus time" to react.
Or some such.
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FlameGlow
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:59:00 -
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If a local is replaced with scanner the forums will be flooded with even more whines about how overpowered cloaks are; oh, well, at least there'll be less afk cloaker whines 
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: McDonALTs
The OP IS NOT ASKING FOR LOCAL NERF.
He is asking for a 15 second delay. It takes 1-2 mins at fastest for a pirate to enter system and warp to your belt. That extra 15 seconds helps a lot since most people warp the second a hostile enters local.
She is asking to keep the perfect intel tool for the pirate while nerfing it for the miner/NPCer.
The pirate entering a system will know if there is someone or not, the miner/NPCer will have delayed informations.
A 1 way change.
Originally by: Gamesguy
the suicide ganking is merely an isk farming activity.
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Karii Ildarian
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow
If a local is replaced with scanner the forums will be flooded with even more whines about how overpowered cloaks are; oh, well, at least there'll be less afk cloaker whines
Exactly...2 birds, one...
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Riho
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck
local in Jita is already delayed by 10-15 minutes.
post if full of win :D
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Sarin Adler
Caldari
Saturn Ammo
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: ApaKaka
What people don't realize is that removing local or changing it to a timer based thing or whatever, will only result in boosting the blob and boosting high-sec.
 0.0 is already bad enough for ratting, barely better than running LVL4's in complete security in high-sec.
Low-sec is already pretty dead.
Nerfing the ratters or solo-types by removing local/delaying it will only result in these people moving away to high-sec because it's safer and ultimately more profitable to run LVL4s there.
And, if you don't know what's out there, you will see people gathering into bigger and bigger blobs for security just to move around low-sec and 0.0.
Hardly a boost to pirates. Hardly a boost to small gang PVP.
This, read it.
It's ok you guys want easy ganks but remember that in the process the situation would get even worse, think twice about you want or don't come later crying on how the game is turning carebear and crap.
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zombielook
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:46:00 -
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To all the people who want to remove local, Try this.
Minimize your local chat window for a whole day/night of playing.
don't look at it, don't use it.
just use your scanner the whole time.
see how much fun you have.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: zombielook
To all the people who want to remove local, Try this.
Minimize your local chat window for a whole day/night of playing.
don't look at it, don't use it.
just use your scanner the whole time.
see how much fun you have.
Anyone from 2003 will
*old timer voice* Heck kid, we didn't have this here thing called an over view either! Hihihi!! Gold!!
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The TX
Gallente
Earth Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck
local in Jita is already delayed by 10-15 minutes.
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Axle skye
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: zombielook
To all the people who want to remove local, Try this.
Minimize your local chat window for a whole day/night of playing.
don't look at it, don't use it.
just use your scanner the whole time.
see how much fun you have.
Anyone from 2003 will
*old timer voice* Heck kid, we didn't have this here thing called an over view either! Hihihi!! Gold!!
Nah, we had that radar ring in the lower right and the tiny little buttons in the middle of the hud. Not to mention rats on gates in highsec. No agents, only the rumor service, pre-castor all the way baby. Boy do i miss torp firing Caracals, Rifters w/ Cm's, hell Condors w/ CMs. Ah, the golden age of 5k online. I don't recall any lag tho.
sry. nostalga ftw.
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Relena mearfire
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Relena mearfire on 14/08/2008 15:15:23
Edited by: Relena mearfire on 14/08/2008 15:10:28
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: McDonALTs
The OP IS NOT ASKING FOR LOCAL NERF.
He is asking for a 15 second delay. It takes 1-2 mins at fastest for a pirate to enter system and warp to your belt. That extra 15 seconds helps a lot since most people warp the second a hostile enters local.
She is asking to keep the perfect intel tool for the pirate while nerfing it for the miner/NPCer.
The pirate entering a system will know if there is someone or not, the miner/NPCer will have delayed informations.
A 1 way change.
NO I am Suggesting a balance to npc hunters with cloaking devices.
So And tbh general response times of backup.
So it's firstly just the currently missing balance to cloaking npc hunting.
Secondly its a a slight help to small group pvp.
And thirdly there are no pirates in 0.0.
And for all who wish to be respected in posting here. Go try finding some 1 in 0.0 in under 15 seconds.
I npc hunt like the rest of you and don't be as stupid as to think i would suggest something that would result in my death every day trying to npc hunt.
AND DO NOT DISCUSS LOCAL REMOVAL HERE THX.
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Pithecanthropus
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:57:00 -
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Removing local brings a whole new interesting game concept. I'd rather see it removed in certain areas, than delayed.
For example... if you are in an alliance and in a constellation sovereign space, you SHOULD be able to see a constellation local. Intruders do not get that advantage.
And I'd only do this for 0.0... not low sec or empire.
But maybe its just as easy as losing system local, and keeping constellation local just in 0.0 everywhere.
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NightmareX
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.14 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pithecanthropus
Removing local brings a whole new interesting game concept.
And that is to blob 10 times more, because without local you don't know how many peoples you will meet in a fight, so just to be on the safe side, lets just bring 200 instead of 20 .
ANYTHING that makes us to blob more is a BIG no no in EVE.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:04:00 -
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I disagree with the above blob post, there wills till be ways for scouts to find out how many people are in a system.
Shut up about the stupid blob shit, thats the way it works safety in numbers blah blah blah!
My suggestion is make it so you can set your overview to "scan" for ships around and show them when they come up, kind of like the system scanner but a small overview version
Then these people can switch between scanner tabs and see the different ships around. Further more you could make it so that the ships that come up in this overview setting, will display red, blue, or neut.
This would kind of give you a toned down local, meaning that if a ship got close enough to be scanned via the ship scanner it would apear in your overview.
What do you guys think of that?
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NightmareX
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 14/08/2008 17:11:17
Originally by: Lubimchik
I disagree with the above blob post, there wills till be ways for scouts to find out how many people are in a system.
So if the enemies are placed in different safespots around the system, what are you gonna do, scount and probe after them for one day before you can engage them?
Yes ofc, finding out how many there are in a system is not the problem here.
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Donkee Punch
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:24:00 -
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Delayed local? possibly.. I can see your point on that one.. although I'm not sure I'm in agreement with it...
Remove local? I truly hope that is a dream induced nightmare that CCP will never do.. Local is currently the only real way we have to know if hostiles jump in.
And yes my gang stll gets to kill peeps even with local... not everyone pays attention you know..
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Dwayne Dibly
UnderDog Industries
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wil Smithx
Edited by: Wil Smithx on 14/08/2008 12:20:18
CCP are already going to remove the local system...
God knows what they might do with it but i hope very much that this is not it. If this happened pirates could jump into a system and attack you before they have even come up in local.
Edit:
that said this would offer a way to kill macro ratters before they autowarp to safes.
Yes they said this in
I mean anyone who has been playing this game for more than 2 years will know that this is nothing more than a pipedream and will be implimented then everyone will rush to the forums saying that it sucks and that its killing the game and camping is also crap as you dont ...................
FFS i hate these threads its just full of ppl who claim to know that this is going to be implimented on XXX date or that they are trialing it atm etc.
Unless they say and are testing it on .SISI i would pay no attention to any of the claims stated by anyone.
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