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SkyElite
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Posted - 2008.08.16 03:26:00 -
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Im new to the game and this has probably been asked before but what are the skills I should train to get faster skill training. I've already learned lvl 5 Learning but most of my skills still take a few days to train.
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Elaine Celeste
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Posted - 2008.08.16 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: Elaine Celeste on 16/08/2008 04:02:30
 Originally by: SkyElite
Im new to the game and this has probably been asked before but what are the skills I should train to get faster skill training. I've already learned lvl 5 Learning but most of my skills still take a few days to train.
There are 2 learning skills for every attribute. The basic one is rank 1, the advanced one is rank 3. Rank 3 takes longer to train than rank 2, which takes longer than rank 1.
There is 1 learning skill called learning, which gives a small bonus to ALL attributes.
Generally, it's recommended you train the rank 1 learning skills to 4, and the rank 3 ones to 3 or 4 as well. This'll save you a ton of time, even in the short term.
Getting rank 1 learning skills to 5, and rank 3 learning skills to 4, pays off in about a year.
Cybernetics is also used to plug in implants that give attribute bonuses, and thus help you learn faster.
Charisma can be ignored for the most part, unless you're also developing your trading/social skills.
At higher lvls (and ranks), skills can take from 3-30 days (some even longer than that) to go from lvl 4-5. That's Eve for ya. No xp grind... just gotta be patient.
Also, download Evemon from http://evemon.battleclinic.com/
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.16 04:02:00 -
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Welcome to EVE. =)
First, while the skill 'Learning' does give you a small boost to all your stats, the other skills in the skill group Learning (Analytical Mind, Instant Recall, etc) give bigger boosts to specific stats, which will help decrease skill training times.
I'd recommend over the first few months of playing that you take the basic learning skills (which are all rank 1) to 4, and the advanced learning skills (which are all rank 3 and cost 4.5mil each) to 4. Don't focus hardcore on them, as just training them can be quite boring as they don't open up new ships and modules for you to use, or make you better at flying a ship in any way.
Also, it's quite normal for skills to take days to train. Even with near-max learning skills and implants, it will take days or weeks to train some skills from level 4 to 5.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:47:00 -
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When I was new, I made a rule for myself that I would put "at least" half my training during each week into learning skills, until I had them trained to the lv I wanted.
It took a while, but each week I also was able to train some other stuff.
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Aedonis
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
When I was new, I made a rule for myself that I would put "at least" half my training during each week into learning skills, until I had them trained to the lv I wanted.
It took a while, but each week I also was able to train some other stuff.
This is the best advice for new players.
Train the above mentioned skills using this method and you will find the game a lot more rewarding.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
When I was new, I made a rule for myself that I would put "at least" half my training during each week into learning skills, until I had them trained to the lv I wanted.
It took a while, but each week I also was able to train some other stuff.
Excellent advice.
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Meylota LeFey
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:48:00 -
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When I 1st started playing I read the forums a lot and saw that for new players the learning skills were very highly recommended. EveMon was also highly reccommended as well.
I downloaded EveMon and considered what it was I wanted to do/direction I wanted to go. I looked at all the "support" skills I felt I would need as well and after plugging them in to EveMon the program itself suggested that I might want to put some learning skills in to make the overall plan go faster.
Like the prior poster, I interspersed "useful" skills in between the learning. It made it so that by about the time I'd finished 3 weeks or so of playing I had all my "basic" learning skills to 4 (except charisma) and all my "advanced" learning skills to 3 (but no charisma skill at all). I also had trained Cyberntics and had a full set of +3 implants.
This made it so that I was training skills at about double the rate from when I started.
IRL made it so I couldn't play much over the summer, so in the interest of "long term helping myself" I trained Cybernetics to 4 (and got all my implants to +4's now) and trained all the base learning to 5 and the advanced to 4 (except Charisma, but even there I did 4/3 becuz it's a secondary for Focus and helped that train faster). And now I train that much faster again. And becuz I was not really playing in the summer it wasn't like I needed the "useful" skills anyway, and they're training faster now and I'm "almost" where I want them to be anyway.
Long winded way of agreeing with the previous -- train them as you can -- get 4/3 or 4/4 as quick as you can while still putting in the useful skills in-between so you don't "burn out" with "I'm stuck doing nothing becuz of my learning skills needing to train."
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Krissam
Nomads
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.18 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
When I was new, I made a rule for myself that I would put "at least" half my training during each week into learning skills, until I had them trained to the lv I wanted.
It took a while, but each week I also was able to train some other stuff.
I did something similar, i would train 1 skill i "wanted" then i would train a learning skill which would affect the next skill i wanted, i kept doing this till i was done with them.
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notaway
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.20 06:53:00 -
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There are two schools of thought on the subject of newbie training. There is the one school which says train all the learning skills in such and such an order depending on your char etc etc and the other school which says train skills u need to fly better ships with better mods asap.... If u don't plan on sticking around the 2nd school of thought is better.
Now I didn't even know about learning skills at the outset and I think most ppl basically do like most of the posters here which is do some learning skill training interpersed with practical skill training...I finally got to the point where skills were taking longer to train in the higher ranks and so got implants and focused on getting all the rank 1 learning skills to 5 and the advanced to 4... of course, I am a generalist (jack of a trades). Some ppl just train the learning skills most important to their focus--so if a person is strictly military the learning skills applying to perception and willpower are most important. |
Salpad
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
When I was new, I made a rule for myself that I would put "at least" half my training during each week into learning skills, until I had them trained to the lv I wanted.
It took a while, but each week I also was able to train some other stuff.
This is very good advice.
Also one advantage of getting started on the various learning skillz is that you have something "long" you can set to train, when you log off.
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