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Mika Mikoyan
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:13:00 -
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Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money. 
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:15:00 -
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you don't know what in the flaming blue **** you're talking about, your inability to compete has nothing to do with your SP total, 0/10
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Layne Rockefeller
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:15:00 -
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If you really have that much of a problem with it, and are really that lazy, and really that unwilling to put forth any of your personal time and effort instead of just throwing down money and not really earning something and being a joke to both yourself and everybody else, then there are actual characters for sale with plenty of SP, buy one of them.
k thx.
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SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 16/08/2008 05:16:41
 Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
You can be competitive by specializing. You can only be so good, skillpoints wise, at any given task in this game. It is not very hard to be just as good as a 50m skillpoint character at flying, say, assault frigates, or even heavy assault ships.
The difference will be that you might be just as good at flying a Zealot, but the 50m SP character can also jump in a Cerberus, and you can't fly it at all because you've specialized to be as good as possible in a Zealot.
If it bothers you that much, you CAN buy skillpoints, in a way. Earn yourself enough isk to buy a 50m skillpoint character and do so. Or, if you're not into earning, buy a bunch of Game-time cards, sell them for isk, and use the isk to buy a 50m skillpoint character.
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Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:18:00 -
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The OP reminds me of a certain other author of a failed whine thread. Preleon...is that you?
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Layne Rockefeller
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:19:00 -
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on second thought, send me 1.2 bil in isk, and I'll send you 50 million SP
isk first though, wouldn't want you to cheat me.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:20:00 -
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Whats to stop the high SP peeps from buying more SP?
Oh and try tactics sometime.
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Mika Mikoyan
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:21:00 -
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Ah, do not think I am so naive to think that I have any chance against someone flying a Claymore when I am flying a T1 frigate. Not to mention the fact that it will take me months to get into a ship that will be able to mildly compete against such odds. I'm not asking for an unlimited amount of SP to be available for purchase, just something that will give me a fighting chance within a couple of months.
As it stands, this game is skewed heavily against new players given the mean SP of the populous. And since I am already forking over money to play, why not fork over a little more to be able to compete in a meaningful way??
You can call me a cry baby or whatever, but you know my point is valid. 5 million SP vs 50 million SP.....not even close.
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Mika Mikoyan
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Whats to stop the high SP peeps from buying more SP?
Oh and try tactics sometime.
Errr....you could put a limit on the purchase of SP. Say something around 20M SP.....that would be a nice start.
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Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:23:00 -
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ROFL!! yep that's Praleon. Lost one fight and trying to start another one. Pretty friggin pathetic.
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Layne Rockefeller
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Layne Rockefeller on 16/08/2008 05:23:11
ok, everyone has to start somewhere buddy. there have been THOUSANDS of people who haven't been able to 'compete' for some length of time or another. There's no shame in carebearing for a little while. Honestly it's true for all RPG's, you have to put it time, or be a lazy bum and buy a 50 mil SP character.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:23:00 -
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My mission raven took on a 2004 and a 2005 duo once. What's your problem you baby?
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Jack Airron
Gallente
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Ah, do not think I am so naive to think that I have any chance against someone flying a Claymore when I am flying a T1 frigate. Not to mention the fact that it will take me months to get into a ship that will be able to mildly compete against such odds. I'm not asking for an unlimited amount of SP to be available for purchase, just something that will give me a fighting chance within a couple of months.
As it stands, this game is skewed heavily against new players given the mean SP of the populous. And since I am already forking over money to play, why not fork over a little more to be able to compete in a meaningful way??
You can call me a cry baby or whatever, but you know my point is valid. 5 million SP vs 50 million SP.....not even close.
you can not hope to be as good with out some time invested so stop *****ing and train sp's. if not can i have your stuff?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Whats to stop the high SP peeps from buying more SP?
Oh and try tactics sometime.
Errr....you could put a limit on the purchase of SP. Say something around 20M SP.....that would be a nice start.
So you buy 20 mil and they buy 20 mil. your back to square one.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
I'm not asking for an unlimited amount of SP to be available for purchase, just something that will give me a fighting chance within a couple of months.
Then you have two choices. Make friends or purchase additional accounts.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:28:00 -
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MOVE ALONG PEOPLE
NOTHING TO SEE HERE
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:29:00 -
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For the record, this has been suggested before, with no comment from the DEVS. Granted, it's been suggested before the days of the CSM, so you do have the option of calling this an [issue] and attempting to raise votes in the CSM forums, hoping they'll pick it up and present it to the devs.
If you do that, it'll accomplish more than complaining here does. It's just us players here. We can't do anything other than give our opinions in reply.
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Farrqua
Minmatar
Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:30:00 -
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Guys! Guys!
This is the guy that started another thread based off the same crap. He got his ass handed to him in the other 16 page thread and now he is trying again.
He wants instanced, leveled areas where equal SP pilots can fight each other. He is advocating zoned PvP because his friends bailed on him.
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Mika Mikoyan
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:31:00 -
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You can cap the purchase of SP....that would mean that people who already have above a certain level cannot purchase anymore.
Since this game does not reward grinding like WoW does, it only makes sense to even the playing field a bit for new players. I can only train skills so fast....I am a prisoner of the clock. Why don't you naysayers address my points specifically.
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Mika Mikoyan
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Letouk Mernel
For the record, this has been suggested before, with no comment from the DEVS. Granted, it's been suggested before the days of the CSM, so you do have the option of calling this an [issue] and attempting to raise votes in the CSM forums, hoping they'll pick it up and present it to the devs.
If you do that, it'll accomplish more than complaining here does. It's just us players here. We can't do anything other than give our opinions in reply.
Finally, someone with common sense!
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Corduroy Rab
Xenocidal Uprising
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:37:00 -
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only if i can steal the sp you buy.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:41:00 -
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When I started Eve, I joined a friend's corp who had been in game a while. The Friend was Blacklight, and the corp was BNC, even then a well respected pvp corp.
I was a noob with less than 100,000 SPs
Many of them had well over 10mil SPs
I was effective with weeks
I was fully "competitive" within a year.
You can do the same damn thing.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:43:00 -
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you already can buy skill points
purchase and trade GTC's
then visit the character buy forum
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:44:00 -
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On a related note....
If CCP ever does want to put a "limit" out there, I'd recommend it be at least 20mil SPs higher than the highest SP player in game, AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, add the ability to "unlearn" skills.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:48:00 -
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I think it would be cool. A new player comes along with 800k skill points. He then buys 20 mill skill points and can fly a capital if he wants to.
Then that same person who bought the SP's buys some nice iskies off ebay "or through GTC's", fit's the carrier with honor tank and goes solo to clear a gate camp. Said person then comes to forums to whine that his carier with uber honor tank got ganked and cry's. Asks for CCP to make players under a yea old immune as they dont have the experience of playes that have played for 5 years and its unfair. CCP implements the immunity for noobs and suddenly were playing a crappier version of hello kitty online.
Please sir, give up computer games. Dont even go back to wow as even that game has some standards which you dont seem to raise to.
/rant off
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
On a related note....
add the ability to "unlearn" skills.
Now that is a good idea, woukld have to have set rules to it but definately something for the dev's to think over I'd say.
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Sani Ka
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 05:55:00 -
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umm u already can buy sps, just make alot of isk and buy a high sp char....
or ya know, go back to wow.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points.
Even if you COULDN'T buy skillpoints (which you can do, by the way), you STILL could compete with high-SP players thanks to the little thing called specialisation.
Yes, a very much older player MIGHT have shedloads of SP in so many things that it hurts, however only a small portion of those SP could possibly EVER affect any particular ship he's flying... so, if you specialize in something (like, say, oh, interceptors), you could obtain pretty much the same level as the much older player (if even not surpass it) sooner rather than later... the older player can't train more than L5 in any appliable skill, and there's only so many appliable skills for each ship.
The older player will simply be "good at" more ships... but in any each individual one, a pilot that specializes in them and only them can be even better.
Finally, you said there's no SP buy, I said there is.
If you're still confused, it's called BUYING A CHARACTER WITH ISK.
And they're quite cheap, actually... they're usually cheaper than what it would take you (ISK-wise) to train them up from zero using ISK for implants, skills and GTCs only.
And you get them "now" as opposed to after a long, long wait.
Bottom line... OP has absolutely no point, just a complete lack of understanding.
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Sani Ka
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
On a related note....
add the ability to "unlearn" skills.
Now that is a good idea, woukld have to have set rules to it but definately something for the dev's to think over I'd say.
too easy to exploit, just build a max int mem gallente char and train industry skills then reset the points for ship or weapon or whatever skills and blammo you have a super fast training omni char that can do and fly anything.
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Orvas Dren
Gallente
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:08:00 -
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Quote:
Ah, do not think I am so naive to think that I have any chance against someone flying a Claymore when I am flying a T1 frigate. Not to mention the fact that it will take me months to get into a ship that will be able to mildly compete against such odds. I'm not asking for an unlimited amount of SP to be available for purchase, just something that will give me a fighting chance within a couple of months.
As it stands, this game is skewed heavily against new players given the mean SP of the populous. And since I am already forking over money to play, why not fork over a little more to be able to compete in a meaningful way??
You are under the impression that this gap wasn't entirely designed and intended? It is a necessary method to teach such young and inexperienced pilots such as yourself the really fine detail mechanics of the game. You don't hear me, a 46mil SP suboptimally laid-out Intaki moaning about the players with near 90mil SP and gaining them faster than I. I know that at the ships I have chosen to fly, I am more than capable of matching their abilities in those ships specifically. Tactics then allow me to match my chosen ship vs theirs. Thats what having played since 2004 has gained me. If you think that the experience can be bought just as easily as the SP, please, seek out Ebay so we can get you banned for violating the EULA.
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Horchata
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:17:00 -
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Just another example of today's generations demanding instant gratification. I can understand being frustrated but come on, not everything comes with a "I win" button.
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:41:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 16/08/2008 06:42:55
Originally by: Horchata
Just another example of today's generations demanding instant gratification. I can understand being frustrated but come on, not everything comes with a "I win" button.
I come with an "I win" button. Really, it's right on my desktop right now. 
To the OP, I enjoy playing on low SP accounts for the lol factor of wtfpwning people with 10x my SP. With this account I fly mainly frigs and cruisers even though I am over 30mil SP now. Seriously... learn to play the game before suggesting changes. 
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Dranearian
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.16 06:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dranearian on 16/08/2008 06:44:15
You should.. you know.. try to learn that bigger != better.
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:00:00 -
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Im more amused by the successful troll than anything recently.
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Disteeler
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Disteeler on 16/08/2008 07:10:00
Veterans are more versatile, but not better at a given task.
If you reach all skills that affects piloting an interceptor, you can't get better at it. You just can train other skills that affects other parts of the game.
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Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dranearian
Edited by: Dranearian on 16/08/2008 06:44:15
You should.. you know.. try to learn that bigger != better.
Noobs are disadvantaged because they cant kill a cap ship solo. True story.
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Jesum
Amarr
Warmongers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:27:00 -
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Buy GTC. Sell GTC for isk. Use isk to buy a new char.
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Meteor Crash
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:29:00 -
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Yes. You can buy SP with ISK. Make a lot of ISK and go to the character bazar. I can't see the problem.
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RaWBLooD
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
Okay go play another game. We will stay here in this unfair game where we can not possibly compete with 5 year old players.
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Thirzarr
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Posted - 2008.08.16 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Meteor Crash
Yes. You can buy SP with ISK. Make a lot of ISK and go to the character bazar. I can't see the problem.
Why do I have a feeling of seeing a "Character Purchase should be less expensive" thread in the near future?
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Thirzarr
Originally by: Meteor Crash
Yes. You can buy SP with ISK. Make a lot of ISK and go to the character bazar. I can't see the problem.
Why do I have a feeling of seeing a "Character Purchase should be less expensive" thread in the near future?
Shhh. You'll give the OP idea's...
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:31:00 -
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Lock thread please |
Malcanis
We are Legend
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:43:00 -
[43]
Why? Praelon is currently providing more harmless amusement than any other poster.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Valan
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:44:00 -
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Experience suggests you're not a person thats going to stay with EVE save yourself the time and money and leave.
If you're still here after the standard sunscribers 7 month period I'll be very surprised.
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Chronos VIII
Amarr
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:55:00 -
[45]
die in a fire
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Meteor Crash
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:55:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Meteor Crash on 16/08/2008 08:56:01
Originally by: Thirzarr
Originally by: Meteor Crash
Yes. You can buy SP with ISK. Make a lot of ISK and go to the character bazar. I can't see the problem.
Why do I have a feeling of seeing a "Character Purchase should be less expensive" thread in the near future?
I think it's quite cheap the way it is. For some billions you can save yourself years of skill training. ISK in this game is not hard to do.
I did the calculation once some time ago and if you make 1 bi a month you're basically making 4 times as much skillpoints as if you played normally. 1 bi a month is not hard to make for someone who should be playing enough to worry about equality. So you can just pretend every 250 million ISK you're leveling up and each million SP is a level and add a 25% bonus to this XP if you sell your character before cashing the XP points. Numbers have changed/inflated but you got the idea.
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.08.16 08:58:00 -
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You can actually buy skillspoints - by buying a character you effectively by-pass the "wait", and get ahead of the line.
If anyone from CCP reads this, I think allowing players to buy anything but a subscription was a mistake. Granted you DO make more money, but the game suffered and continues to suffer.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:09:00 -
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To the OP:
You do not fail because you lack skillpoints....
You fail because you lack skill!
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Damasc
Caldari
The Shadow's Of Eve
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:41:00 -
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Sorry if this has been said but OP do you even realise what the hell EVE is?
This isn't WoW, this isn't an instant gratification game, this is a community, to make progress in this world you need two things: Time and Patience, if you don't have them then stop playing EVE it's not for you, people have worked YEARS to get to that 50 mil SP and you want to get there overnight, no, travel their path, experience EVE and maybe then you'll see why there's no SP buying.
That is my two cents and I hope it stops this senseless flaming of people.
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Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:55:00 -
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epic fail... OP , just quit the game
i was 4 months into this game and i used
TACTICS
to kill people years old
personally my first pvp kill... may i add was solo,, was me in a cormorant, vs a sabre. he had a trap set. i knew it was there. so i fitted specifically to kill him. i did. he had around 28 mill sp, i had 5 mill i think, 1.8 into learning skills as well..
OP fails. nuff said
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Guttripper
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:15:00 -
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Amazing people do not enjoy the journey, but just the end results in today's (gaming) world...
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:17:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
You want to buy SP? Give me 50B and I'll sell you my main, 65M SP, or go buy another character. There's a sub-section in this forum for that.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:28:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until i learn how to use my brain and tactics against older players i will always be a clueless noob
Fixed it for you
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Karentaki
Gallente
Fighting While Intoxicated
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:33:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kerfira
To the OP:
You do not fail because you lack skillpoints....
You fail because you lack skill!
Quoted for axiomic truth!
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RE: The suicide nerf
Originally by: agent apple
I believe I can safely speak for many of us when I say,
Dear Devs, Go Back to WOW
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Eve Goetterdaemmerung
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Guys, that is rediculous!
Why do you think that if you have less skill points (so less age) that you have more money? According to my experience the average amount of money is also increasing with age. A million ISK is much for a beginner, but not worth leaving the station for a player who plays EVE for 2 years!
Therefore selling SP for ISK would actually increase the gap between newbees and veterans!
I would be glad to have this, but I am a rich bastard so I would get a titan pilot in comparatively short time...
So just forget this bullshit!
Anyway, getting SP as payment from CCP for voluntarty work or for exceptional occasions would be a nice thing 
I submitted so many defects to their database and got nothing for that (well they fixed a few of them - thats at least some payment). And if a winner of a tournament get 1m SP - fine - he deserved it.
... but not for money!
Regards,
Eve G.
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NightmareX
MAFIA
Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:04:00 -
[56]
Edited by: NightmareX on 16/08/2008 12:03:55
LOLS, this guys must come from World of Warcraft, and want WoW in space bwwahahaha.
You know what i mean right?
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Burn Mac
Minmatar
Burning Steel Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 13:39:00 -
[57]
Lol ive killed early 06' players during my first week of play its not about the SP's its about ones brain.
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.16 15:02:00 -
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send me 100M isk and i send you 1M SP. good deal right ?
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Eve Goetterdaemmerung
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Eve Goetterdaemmerung on 16/08/2008 16:11:56
Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian
send me 100M isk and i send you 1M SP. good deal right ?
Besides this obvious scam parody, this shows exactly my point from above: He believes that 100m ISK for 1m SP is a good/high price. If this would be the prise I would fly a titan in less then a month! And I doubt that any noob could affort even 1m SP to buy....
So this would really increase the gap between new players and old players!
Besides that there is the possibility to by ISK for real money and with your proposed extension you could buy indirectly SP for real money... so the rich players get better characters? Not really fair, aint it?
Eve G.
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C4LYP50
HeXstoof
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:11:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Guttripper
Amazing people do not enjoy the journey, but just the end results in today's (gaming) world...
This. QFT
Brunette By Birth...............Blonde By Nature.
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Straxos
Decorum Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:25:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
It is ridiculous to think that someone just starting this game where the mean (average) player has 30M SP will ever make a dent. Why don't you tell me how a player with 2M SP can take down someone with 20M SP just by using tactics??
You do that by getting friends, though admittedly that'll probably be hard with your attitude.
Join a corp, learn the game and while you do, train your character. Noone ever benefitted by buying SP (which ppl actually do, it's just called character trading). Look at the Crime and Punishment section and notice how often ppl who have no clue as to how to fit a ship, losses them.
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:35:00 -
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DELETE ALL CHARACTERS WITH OVER 50 MILL SP!!!!!
DELETE T2 BPOs!!!!!
NOT FAIR!!!!! I CANT COMPETE!!!!! AWWWWWWGHHHWHHWHWHWHW!!!!!
/Sarcasm Off.
Someone, quick, call an WAMBULANCE.
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Jelryn Talmon
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Posted - 2008.08.16 18:01:00 -
[63]
I want to play basketball like Michael Jordan did in his prime. Hell, even now he'd kick my ass. I want to swim like Michael Phelbs (yesyesyes, couldn't help myself). I want to play golf like Tiger Woods... I want I want I want I want!
Well now, let's see. I wonder how many years it took those guys to get to where they are today?
Also, if CCP does make one where players below 20 million skillpoints can buy SP until they have 20 million, then that's unfair to all of us who've played longer since we have more than 20 million so we won't benefit from it! Some newbie can come in, buy some GTC's, sell those for isk, but to 20 million sp, and continue. Not all of us are rich b'tards IRL, so I wouldn't be able to compete on all that (since I don't have the money to buy massive amounts of GTC's. Hell, I'm struggling just paying for the game (yes, I know I can buy GTC's with isk, but I pvp so much I never really earn any isk)).
What about players who have 20.000.001 sp when the 20 million cap hits? They're going to be very peeved off that some others who've started a year later than them suddenly have the same amount of skill points.
And although some said this game can be solo'd even on a high level, pvp is still meant as a primarily group thing.
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Ammon Skycloud
Caldari
Matari Research Foundation
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Posted - 2008.08.16 18:19:00 -
[64]
NO!
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.16 18:34:00 -
[65]
To the OP: Ummm...no. Not a chance, never. Earn them if you want them.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.16 21:19:00 -
[66]
End yourself!
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.16 21:20:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
Are you talking real money here? If so then all the players wich extra time just buy SP instead of working for it and those of us who just put in our 15 Euro/$ each month get screwed. I hate RMT games for the sheer reason that they aren't based on skill or time put in they are based on how rich you are.
If its in gme money then the 5 year old players have more money than you anyways and all of a sudden everyone a couple years old is a Cayamus clone and the newbies being poor still get the short end of the stick.
-So says Xindi Kraid
Caveat Emptor
Caveat Venditor
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Avenging United
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Posted - 2008.08.16 22:22:00 -
[68]
I wonder if the term multiplayer rings a bell for the OP.
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Herodes
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Posted - 2008.08.16 23:02:00 -
[69]
Well, my young friends...
If you say, that it is not about skillpoints, more about skill, then there shouldbe no problem for buying SP. Because you can pwn him anyway.
And CCP has more money to deliver content.
If it IS a problem... then my first wish is, to BAN these fukking multiaccounts for harming the IG-economy.
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Yamato Gasaraki
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Posted - 2008.08.17 00:24:00 -
[70]
Anarchy Online introduced Veteranpoints (awarded for a certain Amount of paid Subscription) that can be traded for different Stuff.
Just in Theory, handing out Skillpoints based on Gametime will speed up Players reaching the End of the Stick pretty much.
In short, it won't cure the Problem of "Old versus Fresh", but it evens the Odds a bit by letting the Freshmen Skill up faster (because of less SP needed for those low Skills = faster on Par with the not-so-fresh Players), while the Dudes flying Titans can cut Times on their Epic Skills, lasting Weeks in Training.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.08.17 04:24:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
Wont happend.
Originally by: Dianabolic
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Heritor Skoliya
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:18:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Mika Mikoyan
Until CCP allows me to buy skill points, there is no way I will ever compete with someone who has 50 million or more skill points. That is the problem with being new to a game that has been out this long. You will never be competitive against such a large SP gap. But I'm sure CCP has no problem taking my money.
You both lazy and impatient. Maybe you need to be playing lineage, but not EVE?
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