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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.08.16 15:59:00 -
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RA has been close to death several times in the past. The only difference here is that someone might have been opportunistic enough to take advantage before things calmed.
Any positive military action only serves to exacerbate internal issues. In that regard, partial credit is due for good timing if RA does indeed kick the bucket.
Still, the preemptive defensive is kind of funny. Its like scrubbing the deck of the Titanic as it goes down. 
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:01:00 -
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You'd have to be a strange person to claim that BoB can't take some of the credit.
It's totally crazy to suggest losing 5 stations and all those high-end moons wasn't the straw that broke the camels back.
I don't think it's credible to claim this was going to happen anyway, given the timing. ----------
AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |

DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:03:00 -
[123]
Is there an echo in here?
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:08:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Yorda Attacking moon mining towers in far off regions kills alliances? Goddamnit why didn't we think of that 
look how stupid you are.
read the op. Real men structure tank. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:26:00 -
[125]
We didn't want those Russian overlords anyway. -----------
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hangnoose
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:28:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Butter Dog You'd have to be a strange person to claim that BoB can't take some of the credit.
It's totally crazy to suggest losing 5 stations and all those high-end moons wasn't the straw that broke the camels back.
I don't think it's credible to claim this was going to happen anyway, given the timing.
RA has how much high end moons and stations in the south making them isk? The north was RA's summers home, yeah they owned it but if they lose it, it's not like they are homeless and have no income.
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Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:29:00 -
[127]
No no no guys, they're right. RA existed solely for a handful of highend moons in fade that they barely bothered to defend.
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:33:00 -
[128]
BoB killed RA like RZR killed TRI.
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teh punisher
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:35:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: General Windypops *snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])
Saluting windypops before the new forum rules put him to sleep forever o7 You will be remembered.
- Gob
actually the forum rules (and navigator in this case) are really stupid. he has the power to decide which corps are "alt corps" and not just corps with a few individuals. it's completely stupid how he has the power to arbitrarily decide this.
on topic, it seems that aaa is getting a huge boost in this deal.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose
RA has how much high end moons and stations in the south making them isk? The north was RA's summers home, yeah they owned it but if they lose it, it's not like they are homeless and have no income.
BoB taking that space was the catalyst.
Not the sole reason, but without BoB's intervention this simply would not have happened. At least, not now and in the manner it has.
And comparing it to TRI mark I is 'lol'. BoB have taken two regions, 5 stations, and loads of high end moons. What did NC ever do to TRI apart from walk in when they left the region of their own accord?
You NC/Goon damage controllers need to get a grip.
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
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Cheeva
Gallente Core Productions
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Silenced Ripper
lol 1: read the post again and see if this time you understand
2: RA didnt want those high end moons anyway
3: sure RA leadership was happy to loose all their revenues from the north
so losing some high end moons equals death??? like they dont have anny of those close to their actual home
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Orar Ironfist
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:41:00 -
[132]
Originally by: NAT Mav BoB killed RA like RZR killed TRI.
lolz
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Cheeva
Gallente Core Productions
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:42:00 -
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butter what are you using as it amazes me how you can actually type that kinda garbage that losing those moons/stations would actually do anything Ra didn't have to fight for it and they didn't defend it so i don't really see whats the big thing that made this the catalyst for them to fold shop as their home regions haven't been threatened for a long long time
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cheeva butter what are you using as it amazes me how you can actually type that kinda garbage that losing those moons/stations would actually do anything Ra didn't have to fight for it and they didn't defend it so i don't really see whats the big thing that made this the catalyst for them to fold shop as their home regions haven't been threatened for a long long time
I think you need to stop posting, and look up the word 'catalyst'.
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:44:00 -
[135]
ahahahaha look at all the alt posters getting owned in this thread -----------
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Vily
Amarr Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:44:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: hangnoose
RA has how much high end moons and stations in the south making them isk? The north was RA's summers home, yeah they owned it but if they lose it, it's not like they are homeless and have no income.
BoB taking that space was the catalyst.
Not the sole reason, but without BoB's intervention this simply would not have happened. At least, not now and in the manner it has.
And comparing it to TRI mark I is 'lol'. BoB have taken two regions, 5 stations, and loads of high end moons. What did NC ever do to TRI apart from walk in when they left the region of their own accord?
You NC/Goon damage controllers need to get a grip.
you need to get a clue. RA has lost THREE not five stations. ec- L-c and fio1, none of which they gave a shit about. they have lost somewhere in the range of a dozen prometium/dyspro moons. none of which they cared about.
put that in perspective. -
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Tearavygh Quillam
COLSUP
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:46:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you need to stop posting, and look up the word 'catalyst'.
What you think is irrelevant 
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vily
you need to get a clue. RA has lost THREE not five stations. ec- L-c and fio1, none of which they gave a shit about. they have lost somewhere in the range of a dozen prometium/dyspro moons. none of which they cared about.
put that in perspective.
Is that a troll? I hope so.
If they didn't care about/want those stations and moons then why, pray tell, did they take them in the first place, and latterly attempt a failed pos-spam/defence of EC?
Of course, the timing of their failcascade could be a co-incidence, it is within the realms of possibility. In much the same way that I could be the Pope.
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |

Aales Eae
Solus Navy
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:55:00 -
[139]
Oh dear, what's goonswarm gonna do without someone holding their hand? Better start kissing up to Solar. |

SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:57:00 -
[140]
We did not kill RA. We added pressure to a already pressured alliance. We killed 85 of their POS. We took some stations, we downed oodles of cynojammers for them, all while they failed to defend.
We did not kill RA. We are even now awaiting the public post from RA that is supposed to come on monday. Is RA dead? Time will tell. Does it look like RA's last breath? It sure as hell does.
Who killed RA? We of course had nothing to do with it, so, we await anxiously who did it.
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:57:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Yorda Attacking moon mining towers in far off regions kills alliances? Goddamnit why didn't we think of that 
Originally by: Yorda No no no guys, they're right. RA existed solely for a handful of highend moons in fade that they barely bothered to defend.
look how stupid you are.
read the op. Real men structure tank. |

Darius JOHNSON
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: enjoi Ra was dead, BoB was dead, RA is dead, just shut up and shoot each other, shit.
p.s lol seeing darius doing damage control in this thread is fscking hilarous. the CSM tag binds him with such duties.
people will listen!
I said BoB's overrated and laughed at your silly marketing. I'm not sure how that's damage control. If you read what Omeega said you'll see that this does not, indeed impact us one bit. Much like your alliance.
Originally by: Iroku Mata Darius is time to STFU and make your GSM place free for someone who got the humildity to have the job you claim and failled!
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:01:00 -
[143]
Corps are leaving RA Yorda.
That's the reason. You can't even get the facts right that the OP stated that RA was falling apart because of corporations leaving.
We may or may not have added pressure to RA to defend their northern holdings, which they failed to commit to.
We sure as hell killed those towers though, right Yorda! Real men structure tank. |

NaNNeR HaMMeR
Amarr RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:01:00 -
[144]
I wouldn't care about a Dozen dyspro/promethium moons either to be honest.
I'm not going to pretend I really know anything about the details of RA internal affairs, but if your alliance had just put up all the towers, setup all the reaction chains, secured the area, and then had it all taken away you don't think that it would cause some internal drama?
Typically there's shuffling of who/where the new isk is going when new moons/regions are taken. Couple that with the fact that they never really had time/reason for a decent withdrawal of the new assets, and it's going to be a problem. Not enough to break RA by any means, they have persevered through far worse times than losing a region far from their base of operations, but add that to an already strained alliance and it just adds to the turmoil.
And the whole, taking moons/stations they didn't care about defense. I love how when bob loses regions and moons that they never even tapped it's some huge accomplishment, but when it's some other alliance giving stations/moons up without really defending it, who have tapped into all of the resources, it's really no big deal.
Amazing propaganda, and I personally really miss my 3 promethium moons and 1 dyspro moon I had gobbled up in and around feyth because BOB as an alliance never bothered, wonder if they didn't bother as part of some crazy master plan....hmmmmmm
BBQ 06 maybe? This man KNOWS how to HaMMeR a NaNNeR |

Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:01:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Vily they have lost somewhere in the range of a dozen prometium/dyspro moons. none of which they cared about.
Au contraire, Vily my dear, au contraire. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Tearavygh Quillam
COLSUP
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:10:00 -
[146]
Originally by: SirMolle Who killed RA? We of course had nothing to do with it, so, we await anxiously who did it.
Can you just say it was planned at the 2003 BBQ? 
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Jim Lovell
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:12:00 -
[147]
tbh who cares just shut up all of you get a life
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NAT Mav
TribalWar Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:15:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Vily you need to get a clue. RA has lost THREE not five stations. ec- L-c and fio1, none of which they gave a shit about. they have lost somewhere in the range of a dozen prometium/dyspro moons. none of which they cared about.
They cared enough to take them from you.
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enjoi
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: NAT Mav
Originally by: Vily you need to get a clue. RA has lost THREE not five stations. ec- L-c and fio1, none of which they gave a shit about. they have lost somewhere in the range of a dozen prometium/dyspro moons. none of which they cared about.
They cared enough to take them from you.
/thread Real men structure tank. |

Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.16 17:25:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Yorda Man, look at the backpedaling bob and butthurt alts in this thread.
Only outnumbered and outposted by the screaming and crying of your shower of panda fiddling reprobates, hey hey.
How does a panda fiddle reprobates?
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