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Xorv
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Posted - 2012.03.23 01:06:00 -
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kiki mo wrote:
All of the above seems fine...right? The twist on this; at least as far as I've been led to believe is that
- Killing somebody, while you are a 'suspect' incurs a sec status hit (even if they shoot at you first) up to -5
- Killing somebody, who is +5, while you are a 'suspect' incurs a sec status hit up to -10
Yes this is the part that really looks like they're pushing High Sec PvPers out of High Sec. Which would be fine if they also pushed lucrative PvE out of High Sec as well, but no sign of that happening yet. I'm still waiting for the complete story before final judgement, we haven't seen the Wardec changes yet.
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Xorv
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Posted - 2012.03.23 01:09:00 -
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Drew Solaert wrote:All I'm hearing is bitter "Pro PvPer's" loosing their RR
You should go to the doctor then and get your ears checked, as that's one part of the changes to Crimewatch that I've seen most people happy with.
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Xorv
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Posted - 2012.03.23 07:40:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Xorv wrote:
Yes this is the part that really looks like they're pushing High Sec PvPers out of High Sec. Which would be fine if they also pushed lucrative PvE out of High Sec as well, but no sign of that happening yet. I'm still waiting for the complete story before final judgement, we haven't seen the Wardec changes yet.
The thing is you can't push people out of highsec, PVPers or otherwise. If you make it prohibitively difficult to engage in PVP in highsec the people whose entire playstyle is built around killing things in highsec will just quit and go and play another game. At that point the nullsec people who constantly advocate for changes that would make highsec PVP more difficult now, will whine that highsec is too safe and that no PVP happens there.
The reason many of those players are in High Sec is because the targets are there, and that was really my point. If CCP takes non consensual PvP out of High Sec they should also take out all the non newbie PvE. When I think of previous Sandbox MMORPGs I've played I can't think of any that have safe zones where you can also engage in PvE. Well Shadowbane had a newbie zone, but it had no value to characters after they'd spent a couple of hours there. No one would complain High Sec was too safe if all you could do there was trade, build things, and do newbie tutorial missions. I'm certainly not advocating all PvPers join Sov Nullsec alliances.
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