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Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:53:00 - [31] Have to be honest I've had a look at this and with the media black out that seems to have happened and the obvious digging that is still taking place I sniff a whiff of truth in this. Like has been pointed out Pyramids are all over the place....south america, central america, egypt, indonisia and europe. There is no reason to dis this just because you have a lack of imagination (which is odd as you play a space game). As for why are we so concerned with the past! Well the more we learn about the past, the more we learn about ourselves, and the more we understand ourselves the more we can achieve.... Personally I believe theres a pyramid hidden under them mounds of rock, there is no reason not to believe....have a look at graham han****s website, it is sure to open your eyes.
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:56:00 - [32] Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to.
Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:00:00 - [33] dead false god...
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:01:00 - [34] Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to. oh cmon... ok if you want to talk about spacehips then consider also the fact that the pyramids currently are in structure.. their armor and shield are gone.. as in.. what you see as the pyramids were actually only the base of the structure, the rest has fallen off and been damaged over time.. and some propose that the pyramids in their true form were shining white (forget the stones/material that was supposedly used) and that there was a golden capstone on it. needless to say must've looked pretty f'ing amazing! would've loved to see that.
Oli Robbo Gallente Galactic Defence Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:01:00 - [35] Edited by: Oli Robbo on 19/08/2008 17:02:40 Originally by: Haraldhardrade I'm a sceptic by nature, but the sceptics in this thread need to apply some logic to this. Pyramids are found in South America, Africa and now Europe. Building a pyramid is not a difficult thing if you are a king or any other rule with lots of resources. The mayans managed to build sevral pyramids yet they didnt have the brains to come up with the arch, thus all their pyramids have really small rooms inside. There is no reason what so ever to think this is a hoax. As soon as this was revealed some 3 years ago, experts from all over the world went to Bosnia. If it had been a hoax, it would have made front page news all over the place. I'm not biased either way, It could be likely that it is, but on the other had, it wouldn't surprise me if it were just a government scheme to try and boost the moral of the bosnians/ its economy, after all they have just finnished being at war. All you need to do is look at some of the WWII propaganda, and how it influenced the masses of nations, Just think, after the world wars, Germans were carrying money to buy loafs of bread around in wheelbarrows the economy was so bad. As i said before, I am not biased either way, but the only way we will find out for sure is through time time.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:03:00 - [36] Originally by: 7shining7one7 it's called the sphinx, not sphynx, furthermore it was NOT built by the egyptians, the pyramids were built around the sphinx.. as the egyptians found and adopted remnants of the civilization that built it.. the sphinx is far older than you think.. hint: water errosion. and YES it was recarved by the pharaoes into a human head.. which is why the head is disproportionate to the body.. its original form was that of a lion symbolizing the star constellation of leo, and symbolising the age of leo 12000 years ago, with its feet slightly buried beneath the sand.. (on purpose) similarly to how leo was seen at that precise location on earth, in approximately 12000 bc back when humanity supposedly still lived in clay huts.. gl with figuring that out... the pyramids were built around the sphinx in another age, and symbolize the constellation of orion, and the sphinx was recarved to make the rest fit presumably. linkage That's great Seven, we were discussing the depth of bedrock...
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Oli Robbo Edited by: Oli Robbo on 19/08/2008 17:02:40 Originally by: Haraldhardrade I'm a sceptic by nature, but the sceptics in this thread need to apply some logic to this. Pyramids are found in South America, Africa and now Europe. Building a pyramid is not a difficult thing if you are a king or any other rule with lots of resources. The mayans managed to build sevral pyramids yet they didnt have the brains to come up with the arch, thus all their pyramids have really small rooms inside. There is no reason what so ever to think this is a hoax. As soon as this was revealed some 3 years ago, experts from all over the world went to Bosnia. If it had been a hoax, it would have made front page news all over the place. I'm not biased either way, It could be likely that it is, but on the other had, it wouldn't surprise me if it were just a government scheme to try and boost the moral of the bosnians/ its economy, after all they have just finnished being at war. All you need to do is look at some of the WWII propaganda, and how it influenced the masses of nations, Just think, after the world wars, Germans were carrying money to buy loafs of bread around in wheelbarrows the economy was so bad. As i said before, I am not biased either way, but the only way we will find out for sure is through time time. I dont disagree with what you said that post, I just dont see any reason to come to the same conclusion.
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:15:00 - [38] Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 17:18:22 Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 17:15:18 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 17:13:34 Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to. oh cmon... ok if you want to talk about spacehips then consider also the fact that the pyramids currently are in structure.. their armor and shield are gone.. as in.. what you see as the pyramids were actually only the base of the structure, the rest has fallen off and been damaged over time.. and some propose that the pyramids in their true form were shining white (forget the stones/material that was supposedly used) and that there was a golden capstone on it. also look up "white gold" , some kind of powdered gold stuff, pounded to "flour" and then used to make bread dough of. but that's a whole different story. needless to say must've looked pretty f'ing amazing! would've loved to see that. These motherships dont have very good shielding, a couple ion cannons would take one out.... Ofcourse before they were adapted. Btw what your talking about is Monoatomic gold.... I have researched it indeed. EDIT:If you scroll down in the link youll find somebody talking about it in detail, monoatomic gold is impossible to sustain over a period of time without combining it with say copper.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:26:00 - [39] Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:32:00 - [40] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 16:57:18 Originally by: Pwett Micheal, think of it this way: The Sphynx was carved OUT of the bedrock. And in places like New Hampshire, I had to dig approximately 3 feet to hit the granite bedrock in my back yard. it's called the sphinx, not sphynx, furthermore it was NOT built by the egyptians, the pyramids were built around the sphinx.. as the egyptians found and adopted remnants of the civilization that built it.. the sphinx is far older than you think.. hint: water errosion. and YES it was recarved by the pharaoes into a human head.. which is why the head is disproportionate to the body.. its original form was that of a lion symbolizing the star constellation of leo, and symbolising the age of leo 12000 years ago, with its feet slightly buried beneath the sand.. (on purpose) similarly to how leo was seen at that precise location on earth, in approximately 12000 bc back when humanity supposedly still lived in clay huts.. gl with figuring that out... the pyramids were built around the sphinx in another age, and symbolize the constellation of orion, and the sphinx was recarved to make the rest fit presumably. linkage Do you ever post sources that aren't cheesy videos on YouTube? I mean not that I'm making any comment one way or the other on it's contents, I just can't stomach watching that kind of tripe. A nice article, with words and such, would be far more palatable... And before we get all high and mighty about the Sphinx thing, it should be remembered that there has been and still is an immense amount of debate on the subject between two sides with little but circumstantial evidence. Without going and getting several decent degrees in archaeology, Egyptology and ancient North African history, none of us in this thread are well placed to do anything but draw personal opinions from other people's findings. As for the OP's Bosnian Pyramids: these were long since debunked as a viable theory by all but the most desperate of conspiracy theorists. The main proponent of them believes (and has published) that the Atlanteans (before the sinkage, obviously) taught all of the various "sun worshipping" civilizations all manner of secrets, and that Pyramids are (varyingly) either "galactic energy collectors" or portals to other worlds. All conventional geologists who have examined it have concluded that they are normal, everyday hills made of sedimentary layers of varying composition and thickness, much like all the rest of the geographical features in that area (even the boring ones), and that it's shape is kind of interesting, but by all means possible by conventional hill-forming processes. Again, I'm no degree-holding geologist, but I know who's evidence seems more credible to me.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:48:00 - [41] Originally by: 7shining7one7 what is ironic is that our society isn't even close to the time when even the young giza pyramids were built, not to mention the older times... in the terms of science technology and construction, we couldn't even attempt the building of the pyramids within the timeframe it was built in the past, and with such precision.. not to mention things that are still impossible today.. like moving megaliths.. show me a crane that can move a megalith 500 meters up in the air, or a lift that can transport it many miles please and place them with mm precision next to eachother.. show me a powertool that can cut through, and fine polish dyerite base blocks with mm precision.. show me how you can place the pyramids so extremely accurate without using sattelite telemetry, not to mention the extraordinary mathematical "coincidences" in its construction, and its alignment with various things on earth aswell as in space. lol... Put a megalith on 20 or so thick wooden poles (held together with ropes - they would be like tracks on a tank) and roll it over compressed soil.. there was a lot of slaves back then to push it. When the 1st row of the pyramid is complete build some kind of an elevated bridge from the dirt and have the slaves jump on it to compress it and roll the megalith on top of the 1st row.. and so on. This way you don't need cranes. Oh putting the pole underneath the megalith is accomplished by digging from 1 side, sliding the pole in, then repeating from the other side. Another way to build a pyramid would be by using water to float the monoliths, but for that you'd have to flood a huge crater first. Took me 3 minutes to think of these 2 ways, but the Egyptians probably spent years thinking of how to build the pyramids...
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:57:00 - [42] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 17:57:51 Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Originally by: 7shining7one7 what is ironic is that our society isn't even close to the time when even the young giza pyramids were built, not to mention the older times... in the terms of science technology and construction, we couldn't even attempt the building of the pyramids within the timeframe it was built in the past, and with such precision.. not to mention things that are still impossible today.. like moving megaliths.. show me a crane that can move a megalith 500 meters up in the air, or a lift that can transport it many miles please and place them with mm precision next to eachother.. show me a powertool that can cut through, and fine polish dyerite base blocks with mm precision.. show me how you can place the pyramids so extremely accurate without using sattelite telemetry, not to mention the extraordinary mathematical "coincidences" in its construction, and its alignment with various things on earth aswell as in space. lol... Put a megalith on 20 or so thick wooden poles (held together with ropes - they would be like tracks on a tank) and roll it over compressed soil.. there was a lot of slaves back then to push it. When the 1st row of the pyramid is complete build some kind of an elevated bridge from the dirt and have the slaves jump on it to compress it and roll the megalith on top of the 1st row.. and so on. This way you don't need cranes. Oh putting the pole underneath the megalith is accomplished by digging from 1 side, sliding the pole in, then repeating from the other side. Another way to build a pyramid would be by using water to float the monoliths, but for that you'd have to flood a huge crater first. Took me 3 minutes to think of these 2 ways, but the Egyptians probably spent years thinking of how to build the pyramids... i don't think you fully understand how much a megalith weighs, nor the complexity in placing them on top of eachother and next to eachother with milimeter precision.. it took you 2 minutes to make rash rationalizations.. that is indeed accurate.. patch86.. that was a documentary by the discovery channel. but wait.. it was put on youtube and therefore it's automatic internet drivel right?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:00:00 - [43] They actually pulled the monoliths on skids and there were people who would sit in front of monolith and pour water on the skids to make a low-friction mud. I've said it before: don't underestimate what can be done by thousands of people building something for their living God.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:04:00 - [44] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:05:39 Originally by: Pwett They actually pulled the monoliths on skids and there were people who would sit in front of monolith and pour water on the skids to make a low-friction mud. I've said it before: don't underestimate what can be done by thousands of people building something for their living God. that's great, could you explain how they went about lifting it, not even our strongest cranes can do that.. don't underestimate the willfull ignorance of millions of people rationalizing things away just so they can accept a certain view of reality that they have comfort in, rather than seeing the big picture. pretty hard to find water in the desert i reckon.. also look at the timeframe (amount of time) in which they were constructed..
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 18:19:35 Seven, your fault is assuming that these people were somehow less capable than we are. They are no different than us, they just had a different technological background. There is archeological evidence that the Egyptians had knowledge of two key items: The pulley and the counter-weight. Do some research of the pyramid of Cheops: There is sufficient evidence that the inner gallery was used to house a counterweight when getting stones up to the higher reaches. There is already sufficient evidence that earthen ramps were used to build the lower levels of the pyramid, and where did they get the earth? Remember, they had to clear down to the bedrock. Once they had built the inner gallery, they then used the same principles that we use for elevators to move the stone blocks to unprecedented heights. /edit: The fact that the pyramids are on dollar bills has to do with the masons, and our founding fathers were deists, and most deists were also mason, and what are the biggest masonry buildings in the world? Oh, but you probably think that the stone masons are some sort of alien cult like their rendition in the sympsons.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:28:00 - [46] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:32:37 Originally by: Pwett Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 18:19:35 Seven, your fault is assuming that these people were somehow less capable than we are. They are no different than us, they just had a different technological background. There is archeological evidence that the Egyptians had knowledge of two key items: The pulley and the counter-weight. Do some research of the pyramid of Cheops: There is sufficient evidence that the inner gallery was used to house a counterweight when getting stones up to the higher reaches. There is already sufficient evidence that earthen ramps were used to build the lower levels of the pyramid, and where did they get the earth? Remember, they had to clear down to the bedrock. Once they had built the inner gallery, they then used the same principles that we use for elevators to move the stone blocks to unprecedented heights. /edit: The fact that the pyramids are on dollar bills has to do with the masons, and our founding fathers were deists, and most deists were also mason, and what are the biggest masonry buildings in the world? Oh, but you probably think that the stone masons are some sort of alien cult like their rendition in the sympsons. nah masons are a whole different story, they were good people, but were infiltrated in recent times by the "pyramid cult" let's just call it that.. it don't have any official name.. some grand master of masonry back in the day called for _the complete disbandment of freemasonry worldwide_ at that point (why would he do that when he was so into it all) and stated that it was because he realized that the higher echelons of the good secret society of free masonry had been ursurped and infiltrated by the pyramid cult, and that it posed such a threat that he was willing to destroy the entire masonry society to get rid of it.. that's gotta start some alarm bells going off in your head.. if that don't then i don't know wtf will.. but you don't hear that on the evening news.. and the rest.. is history.. (IAO) the rest of the rationalizations you make, well you know how i feel about those, i suggest you read a lot more on the topic is all i can say.. you come from one viewpoint with the information you have currently, and i come from a different viewpoint with the information that i have currently.. and that's that..
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:34:00 - [47] Ah yes, but I've read your literature and I know an Elephant Insurance salesmen when I see one. :) Simply because I used to be one. You wouldn't believe the years I spent actually working in the field of ufology.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:44:00 - [48] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:46:37 Originally by: Pwett Ah yes, but I've read your literature and I know an Elephant Insurance salesmen when I see one. :) Simply because I used to be one. You wouldn't believe the years I spent actually working in the field of ufology. assumptions are the mother of all failures.. and our different oppinions speaks volumes of our differential degree of information.. don't equate yourself with me, you're not me. also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere..
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:48:00 - [49] Originally by: 7shining7one7 pretty hard to find water in the desert i reckon.. Call me crazy but isn't that the Nile a mere couple miles from the pyramids?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:52:00 - [50] Originally by: 7shining7one7 also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere.. Heck, we built ours out of Glass Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:54:00 - [51] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:54:33 Originally by: Pwett Originally by: 7shining7one7 also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere.. Heck, we built ours out of Glass thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. also this
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:56:00 - [52] Originally by: 7shining7one7 also this A malformed video?
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that. 'natural pyramids'? Until you can provide some examples of natural pyramids then you are just talking crap.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich A malformed video? fixed.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:01:00 - [55] Originally by: 7shining7one7 thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. No historical precedence? You mean we're not part of that Western Culture that cataloged the seven wonders of the world, of which the pyramids are still standing? That's like saying there's no historical precedence for the wheel in South America, so all those cars on the road are some sort of grand conspiracy.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:12:00 - [56] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 19:12:48 Originally by: Pwett Originally by: 7shining7one7 thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. No historical precedence? You mean we're not part of that Western Culture that cataloged the seven wonders of the world, of which the pyramids are still standing? That's like saying there's no historical precedence for the wheel in South America, so all those cars on the road are some sort of grand conspiracy. what business has a country that was founded by people escaping from the british empire, to mold icons depicting another dictatorial empire ruled by pharaos, and by your own admission utilizing slaves as playing a small part in pyramid construction?.. are you having a laugh.. how much denial do you have to be in to accept that as a natural thing.. well ... you should know... anyways, pointless talking about this further with your arbitrary incoherence and blatant scapegoating. good day to you sir.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:21:00 - [57] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that. 'natural pyramids'? Until you can provide some examples of natural pyramids then you are just talking crap. The are a lot Naturally formed geological features that are roughly pyramid in shape, even Mars has them. But if you can't prove they were man made surely just say, well nature can't make that shape, and just shove your **** in everyone's face proclaiming to be the "winnar".
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:22:00 - [58] Originally by: 7shining7one7 i don't think you fully understand how much a megalith weighs, nor the complexity in placing them on top of eachother and next to eachother with milimeter precision.. it took you 2 minutes to make rash rationalizations.. that is indeed accurate.. how much does it weigh? 100 tonnes?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:23:00 - [59] Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 19:27:21 Maybe because pyramids are something that have stood the test of time, and their hope was that our grand experiment would do the same thing? They have outlasted the Pharaohs, and it was Franklin's belief that one man couldn't do it alone, but a group of men, with the help of God, could do anything. What better way to encapsulate that statement than the pyramids? /edit: I see you've devolved into the ad hominem again
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:32:00 - [60] Charles Thomson (no doubt part of the paladins I'm sure) specified a "Pyramid unfinished" and gave only a brief explanation of the symbolism, saying the pyramid signifies "Strength and Duration" û no doubt influenced by the Great Pyramid. ----------------------- What better symbol than an eye to represent a watchful and vigilant, protective and loving, omniscient God? The human eye is a marvelous creation, one that certainly suggests the work of a Creator, as noted in many religions and cultures. (noting how religious the founding fathers were but I'm sure this could be interpreted as big brother is watching you) Annuit means to nod assent, to favor, to smile upon. Coeptis means undertakings, endeavors, beginnings. -------------------------- Annuit coeptis means "favors (lit., gives the nod to) undertakings." The subject must be supplied. Who favors? The Eye (Providence) does. The verb annuit can be either present tense or perfect tense, therefore an accurate translation of the motto is: "Providence favors our undertakings" or "Providence has favored our undertakings." (The word "our" is supplied.) (It has also been translated as: "He favors our undertakings" or "He has prospered our endeavors.") The meaning of this motto is better understood when seen in its original classical context. ---------------------- Novus means: new, young, novel. Ordo means: row, series, order. Seclorum means: of the ages, of the generations, of the centuries. An accurate translation of Novus Ordo Seclorum is "A New Order of the Ages," but the meaning of this motto is better understood when seen in its original context. (somehow this gets translated to new world order a lot, also by the paladins)

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