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Sheepactivator	Posted - 2008.08.18 21:59:00 - [1] Is this for real or not. Dont start rambling in this thread before you check the video. Well it does sound interesting IMO. even it can be scamm. New Pyramids found from Bosnia
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.08.18 22:23:00 - [2] If it helps them get by. I don't buy any of it till they've found indesputable facts of it being manmade.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.18 23:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Wendat Huron If it helps them get by. I don't buy any of it till they've found indesputable facts of it being manmade. Indeed, tool marks or graffiti on the blocks that make up the 'pyramid' is a must.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.18 23:29:00 - [4] 1. It's from 2005-2006. 2. It's a hoax.
Valmeir Amarr Vox de Lucis	Posted - 2008.08.18 23:39:00 - [5] Very interesting. It bothers me though that all they show digging this up are three guys with shovels.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.18 23:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Valmeir Very interesting. It bothers me though that all they show digging this up are three guys with shovels. The guy is a historian who proclaims the Archaeology and Geology are just traits? IF I see this guy I'd smack him in the face.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 00:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel 1. It's from 2005-2006. 2. It's a hoax. research some more. the digging is still ongoing.
Seroquel	Posted - 2008.08.19 02:25:00 - [8] the video seemed pretty convincing. at least, the guy that 'discovered' appears sane. i bet with some research you could fire up google map and find them yourself.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 02:35:00 - [9] shouldn't be surprising to ANYONE that pyramids were there, unless you haven't got a clue about how pervasive the pyramid building was in the ancient days.. you think it was just in egypt, are you having a laugh?
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.19 02:55:00 - [10] Very interesting. I will have to have some extra looking around and some talks with some of my friends in the anthropology field and see what they have heard. On an upside, if this ends up being true, then Bosnia will have themselves a tourism jack pot. Slade
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 05:43:00 - [11] Originally by: 7shining7one7 shouldn't be surprising to ANYONE that pyramids were there, unless you haven't got a clue about how pervasive the pyramid building was in the ancient days.. you think it was just in egypt, are you having a laugh? Yes, but that doesn't give them the significance which you seem to imply. They're just mounds with four sides, after all. They're a natural progression from a tor.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 06:18:00 - [12] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: 7shining7one7 shouldn't be surprising to ANYONE that pyramids were there, unless you haven't got a clue about how pervasive the pyramid building was in the ancient days.. you think it was just in egypt, are you having a laugh? Yes, but that doesn't give them the significance which you seem to imply. They're just mounds with four sides, after all. They're a natural progression from a tor. you're either incredibly incredibly stupid and unaware or a cleverly disguised troll, which is it? egyptian pyramids: aligned PERFECTLY cardinal north south east and west direction, depicting a star constellation perfectly and here's a little math for you "wiz kid" The dimensions of the Great Pyramid are unique. It was built to model the northern hemisphere of Earth, its base representing the equator, the apex the pole, and incorporated the factors pi and Phi long before these ratios were supposedly discovered. The angle of the Pyramid's slopes, 51¦ 51', creates a ratio of 2 x pi (3.14) between height of the pyramid and its base perimeter, in the same way that the radius of a circle x 2 x pi gives its circumference - in other words the geometry of a circle was translated into the Pyramid. T he Great Pyramid's original height - 481.39 feet - multiplied by 2 x pi gives the perimeter of its base - 3,023.16 feet. In essence the Pyramid's design squared the circle, portraying the northern hemisphere in "flattened" form, on a scale of 1:43,200. The height of the Pyramid x 43,200 equals the Earth's polar radius. The length of a base side of the Pyramid x 43,200 equals the circumference of Earth at the equator. Since there are 86,400 seconds in 24 hours, the base length equals the distance the Earth rotates at the equator in one half-second. now kindly crawl back to your cave till you evolve your brain enough to merit you crawling back out again. pyramids are VERY significant and those who built them deserves much further study, since it would be difficult to do even today.. some of the things they cut through, we can't even do today with our most powerful powertools, like cutting through dyerite.. not to mention moving megaliths several miles, after which placing them with milimeter precision.. therefore any pyramid found is very important, and pyramids not built in the desert could easily have been covered by vegetation and look like earth mounds, it stands only to reason that the people with the knowledge to build things back before we forgot and started thinking the earth was flat again.. that there are more traces of them than just a few f'ing pyramids on the surface.. rational thinking.. start doing it.. or as albert einstein would say: "condemnation without investigation is THE HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE." learn.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 07:16:00 - [13] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: F'nog Originally by: 7shining7one7 shouldn't be surprising to ANYONE that pyramids were there, unless you haven't got a clue about how pervasive the pyramid building was in the ancient days.. you think it was just in egypt, are you having a laugh? Yes, but that doesn't give them the significance which you seem to imply. They're just mounds with four sides, after all. They're a natural progression from a tor. you're either incredibly incredibly stupid and unaware or a cleverly disguised troll, which is it? egyptian pyramids: aligned PERFECTLY cardinal north south east and west direction, depicting a star constellation perfectly and here's a little math for you "wiz kid" The dimensions of the Great Pyramid are unique. It was built to model the northern hemisphere of Earth, its base representing the equator, the apex the pole, and incorporated the factors pi and Phi long before these ratios were supposedly discovered. The angle of the Pyramid's slopes, 51¦ 51', creates a ratio of 2 x pi (3.14) between height of the pyramid and its base perimeter, in the same way that the radius of a circle x 2 x pi gives its circumference - in other words the geometry of a circle was translated into the Pyramid. T he Great Pyramid's original height - 481.39 feet - multiplied by 2 x pi gives the perimeter of its base - 3,023.16 feet. In essence the Pyramid's design squared the circle, portraying the northern hemisphere in "flattened" form, on a scale of 1:43,200. The height of the Pyramid x 43,200 equals the Earth's polar radius. The length of a base side of the Pyramid x 43,200 equals the circumference of Earth at the equator. Since there are 86,400 seconds in 24 hours, the base length equals the distance the Earth rotates at the equator in one half-second. now kindly crawl back to your cave till you evolve your brain enough to merit you crawling back out again. pyramids are VERY significant and those who built them deserves much further study, since it would be difficult to do even today.. some of the things they cut through, we can't even do today with our most powerful powertools, like cutting through dyerite.. not to mention moving megaliths several miles, after which placing them with milimeter precision.. therefore any pyramid found is very important, and pyramids not built in the desert could easily have been covered by vegetation and look like earth mounds, it stands only to reason that the people with the knowledge to build things back before we forgot and started thinking the earth was flat again.. that there are more traces of them than just a few f'ing pyramids on the surface.. rational thinking.. start doing it.. or as albert einstein would say: "condemnation without investigation is THE HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE." learn. I've read the work you quoted quite thoroughly (sorry I can't remember it's name) but that doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Can you name any other pyramids with the same exacting standards that those three in Egypt had? I'm not saying that the Great Pyramids aren't something special and amazing, and that no one now can reproduce their exacting standards, but you can't simply jump to the "aliens made them do it" defense. Maybe aliens were involved. Maybe they weren't. We'll probably never know. But assuming that just because one set of amazing objects are so exact doesn't mean that all others come from the same source. Maybe others, like Herodotos, knew about them and copied them, or simply liked the sublimity of their shape and worked from there. That doesn't mean that every single pyramid ever created is linked in some metaphysical/supernatural way.
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.08.19 07:43:00 - [14] sadly the only famous pyramid ive been to is made of glass and located in Nevada.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.19 09:13:00 - [15] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel 1. It's from 2005-2006. 2. It's a hoax. research some more. the digging is still ongoing. And every notable archeologist have called it a hoax. The people they've said are backing their claims have publicly stated that they're doing no such thing. I call that a hoax because the no.1 sign of a hoax is when they're trying to inflate their claim by invoking false authority.
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.19 12:10:00 - [16] pyramids are the only way to build tall using privative materials.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 12:52:00 - [17] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 12:56:16 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel 1. It's from 2005-2006. 2. It's a hoax. research some more. the digging is still ongoing. And every notable archeologist have called it a hoax. The people they've said are backing their claims have publicly stated that they're doing no such thing. I call that a hoax because the no.1 sign of a hoax is when they're trying to inflate their claim by invoking false authority. first clue is that most of the criticism is based on people saying that "12k years ago we were living in huts". i suppose it is an inconvenient truth that the sphinx has water errosion on it, showing that it is way older than the giza pyramids, not denyed by any egyptologists just omitted because it doesn't fit into their theories..) secondly clue is the media being silent about it since 2006, eventhough the digging continues to this very day at full speed. cause if it came out that this pyramid corresponds to the same date of the sphinx then people would not only wake up about the sphinx (great amount of supression going on for many decades about it) it will be impossible for people not to put two and two together.. and then there's a lot of "smart public scientists" that'll have to revise everything they held true about our past.. in other words, we'll see.. but let me be the first to say that i wouldn't be at all surprised if they found a 12000 year old pyramid under the ground somewhere. what is ironic is that our society isn't even close to the time when even the young giza pyramids were built, not to mention the older times... in the terms of science technology and construction, we couldn't even attempt the building of the pyramids within the timeframe it was built in the past, and with such precision.. not to mention things that are still impossible today.. like moving megaliths.. show me a crane that can move a megalith 500 meters up in the air, or a lift that can transport it many miles please and place them with mm precision next to eachother.. show me a powertool that can cut through, and fine polish dyerite base blocks with mm precision.. show me how you can place the pyramids so extremely accurate without using sattelite telemetry, not to mention the extraordinary mathematical "coincidences" in its construction, and its alignment with various things on earth aswell as in space. and they thought for long that the great pyramid was a frigging tomb... ahahaha they knew things we are just now beginning to understand, don't think in your ignorance that the pathetic excuse for public science that we have today, have somehow found the crown jewels of human truth.. there are those that know the truth about these ancient days and you can bet your arse they don't want you to know.. because that knowledge is powerful.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.19 13:42:00 - [18] Originally by: 7shining7one7 and they thought for long that the great pyramid was a frigging tomb... ahahaha silly little fools. Gee. Really stupid. Because every other egyptian pyramid in existance except the Gizas are confirmed as being a tomb and the question wether the Pyramid is a tomb or instead a funerary temple is still up for debate. Because you bet it's related to the Egyptian funerary cult since it's layout (including associated temple complexes) practically reeks of it. And why am I not surprised that someone that believes in "the bosnian pyramids" is also pretty much a confessed "Ufos built the pyramids" nut. The Egyptians were the greatest astronomers and mathematicians of the ancient world and given modern evidence and reconstruction building the pyramids with relatively simple means was quite feasible. Same thing goes for most other feats of ancient construction. The only ancient "mystery" of ancient construction that really remains (except the "why did they go to all that trouble of doing it?") is the unnaturally sharp angles on Mayan building blocks (having a sharp inner angle that is pretty impossible to create with stone tools. Thus the key is figuring out what other method they used).
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.19 13:45:00 - [19] Why do people care about the past so much - past is past.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.19 13:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Why do people care about the past so much - past is past. Because if you do not understand the past you have no chance of understanding the present or future?
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 13:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Why do people care about the past so much - past is past. Because if you do not understand the past you have no chance of understanding the present or future? touche, and might i point out this addage aswell: "those who do not learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it."
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.19 13:55:00 - [22] Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Why do people care about the past so much - past is past. Because if you do not understand the past you have no chance of understanding the present or future? yer but its just rock .. it has no effect on future tech .
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.19 14:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Why do people care about the past so much - past is past. Because if you do not understand the past you have no chance of understanding the present or future? yer but its just rock .. it has no effect on future tech . It's not about the rock, it's about the people that moved/built/shaped said rocks and how said rocks shaped that people. Sociology and technology interacting with each other.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 14:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK Why do people care about the past so much - past is past. Because if you do not understand the past you have no chance of understanding the present or future? yer but its just rock .. it has no effect on future tech . So can you explain how we can build a building and it may sink up to a foot within a year and yet a group of primitives built this massive artifact without modern day equipment and the thing has barely moved in thousands of years?
Rubra J. S. Bach In memoriam	Posted - 2008.08.19 14:58:00 - [25] Hahahah I saw this on Pravda last year or the one before. I also saw an article detailing aliens and a boy who in a past life had lived on Mars during the height of civilization there, and he was going to bring miracles to the Earth. Nuff said.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 15:00:00 - [26] You know, if it's going to take a lifetime to make one building that will be your living God's doorway to the afterworld, you better believe that it is going to be the most exact dimensions to it. But, all those measurements are specific to one pyramid - and that pyramid was built at the height of the fourth dynasty, the beginning of the Egyptian Golden Age. Regardless, I too have read 'Chariots of Fire', and I enjoyed it, but we don't want to fall into the argumentum verbosium herd.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 15:03:00 - [27] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich So can you explain how we can build a building and it may sink up to a foot within a year and yet a group of primitives built this massive artifact without modern day equipment and the thing has barely moved in thousands of years? That's easy, 1) excavate to bedrock. 2) build. OR, as I like to tell my Now Orleans friends: Don't build a city on a silt deposit.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Pwett That's easy, 1) excavate to bedrock. 2) build. OR, as I like to tell my Now Orleans friends: Don't build a city on a silt deposit. I can't imagine how far down bedrock must be in the desert but it's a possibility. And New Orleans people are just plain stupid. In fact everybody on the lower coast are pretty much stupid. You can't make a square wooden house and expect it to stand up to a hurricane. and you sure as hell don't make a city that's below sea level. My favorite is the Japanese Atlantis Vid 1 Vid 2 Vid 3
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:26:00 - [29] Micheal, think of it this way: The Sphynx was carved OUT of the bedrock. And in places like New Hampshire, I had to dig approximately 3 feet to hit the granite bedrock in my back yard.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:43:00 - [30] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 16:57:18 Originally by: Pwett Micheal, think of it this way: The Sphynx was carved OUT of the bedrock. And in places like New Hampshire, I had to dig approximately 3 feet to hit the granite bedrock in my back yard. it's called the sphinx, not sphynx, furthermore it was NOT built by the egyptians, the pyramids were built around the sphinx.. as the egyptians found and adopted remnants of the civilization that built it.. the sphinx is far older than you think.. hint: water errosion. and YES it was recarved by the pharaoes into a human head.. which is why the head is disproportionate to the body.. its original form was that of a lion symbolizing the star constellation of leo, and symbolising the age of leo 12000 years ago, with its feet slightly buried beneath the sand.. (on purpose) similarly to how leo was seen at that precise location on earth, in approximately 12000 bc back when humanity supposedly still lived in clay huts.. gl with figuring that out... the pyramids were built around the sphinx in another age, and symbolize the constellation of orion, and the sphinx was recarved to make the rest fit presumably. linkage
Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:53:00 - [31] Have to be honest I've had a look at this and with the media black out that seems to have happened and the obvious digging that is still taking place I sniff a whiff of truth in this. Like has been pointed out Pyramids are all over the place....south america, central america, egypt, indonisia and europe. There is no reason to dis this just because you have a lack of imagination (which is odd as you play a space game). As for why are we so concerned with the past! Well the more we learn about the past, the more we learn about ourselves, and the more we understand ourselves the more we can achieve.... Personally I believe theres a pyramid hidden under them mounds of rock, there is no reason not to believe....have a look at graham han****s website, it is sure to open your eyes.
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.19 16:56:00 - [32] Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to.
Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:00:00 - [33] dead false god...
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:01:00 - [34] Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to. oh cmon... ok if you want to talk about spacehips then consider also the fact that the pyramids currently are in structure.. their armor and shield are gone.. as in.. what you see as the pyramids were actually only the base of the structure, the rest has fallen off and been damaged over time.. and some propose that the pyramids in their true form were shining white (forget the stones/material that was supposedly used) and that there was a golden capstone on it. needless to say must've looked pretty f'ing amazing! would've loved to see that.
Oli Robbo Gallente Galactic Defence Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:01:00 - [35] Edited by: Oli Robbo on 19/08/2008 17:02:40 Originally by: Haraldhardrade I'm a sceptic by nature, but the sceptics in this thread need to apply some logic to this. Pyramids are found in South America, Africa and now Europe. Building a pyramid is not a difficult thing if you are a king or any other rule with lots of resources. The mayans managed to build sevral pyramids yet they didnt have the brains to come up with the arch, thus all their pyramids have really small rooms inside. There is no reason what so ever to think this is a hoax. As soon as this was revealed some 3 years ago, experts from all over the world went to Bosnia. If it had been a hoax, it would have made front page news all over the place. I'm not biased either way, It could be likely that it is, but on the other had, it wouldn't surprise me if it were just a government scheme to try and boost the moral of the bosnians/ its economy, after all they have just finnished being at war. All you need to do is look at some of the WWII propaganda, and how it influenced the masses of nations, Just think, after the world wars, Germans were carrying money to buy loafs of bread around in wheelbarrows the economy was so bad. As i said before, I am not biased either way, but the only way we will find out for sure is through time time.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:03:00 - [36] Originally by: 7shining7one7 it's called the sphinx, not sphynx, furthermore it was NOT built by the egyptians, the pyramids were built around the sphinx.. as the egyptians found and adopted remnants of the civilization that built it.. the sphinx is far older than you think.. hint: water errosion. and YES it was recarved by the pharaoes into a human head.. which is why the head is disproportionate to the body.. its original form was that of a lion symbolizing the star constellation of leo, and symbolising the age of leo 12000 years ago, with its feet slightly buried beneath the sand.. (on purpose) similarly to how leo was seen at that precise location on earth, in approximately 12000 bc back when humanity supposedly still lived in clay huts.. gl with figuring that out... the pyramids were built around the sphinx in another age, and symbolize the constellation of orion, and the sphinx was recarved to make the rest fit presumably. linkage That's great Seven, we were discussing the depth of bedrock...
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:07:00 - [37] Originally by: Oli Robbo Edited by: Oli Robbo on 19/08/2008 17:02:40 Originally by: Haraldhardrade I'm a sceptic by nature, but the sceptics in this thread need to apply some logic to this. Pyramids are found in South America, Africa and now Europe. Building a pyramid is not a difficult thing if you are a king or any other rule with lots of resources. The mayans managed to build sevral pyramids yet they didnt have the brains to come up with the arch, thus all their pyramids have really small rooms inside. There is no reason what so ever to think this is a hoax. As soon as this was revealed some 3 years ago, experts from all over the world went to Bosnia. If it had been a hoax, it would have made front page news all over the place. I'm not biased either way, It could be likely that it is, but on the other had, it wouldn't surprise me if it were just a government scheme to try and boost the moral of the bosnians/ its economy, after all they have just finnished being at war. All you need to do is look at some of the WWII propaganda, and how it influenced the masses of nations, Just think, after the world wars, Germans were carrying money to buy loafs of bread around in wheelbarrows the economy was so bad. As i said before, I am not biased either way, but the only way we will find out for sure is through time time. I dont disagree with what you said that post, I just dont see any reason to come to the same conclusion.
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:15:00 - [38] Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 17:18:22 Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 17:15:18 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 17:13:34 Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 19/08/2008 16:56:23 Shining everybody knows the pyramids were just landing pads for motherships, and the sphinx was an offering to their current false god-Ra. Sorry, had to. oh cmon... ok if you want to talk about spacehips then consider also the fact that the pyramids currently are in structure.. their armor and shield are gone.. as in.. what you see as the pyramids were actually only the base of the structure, the rest has fallen off and been damaged over time.. and some propose that the pyramids in their true form were shining white (forget the stones/material that was supposedly used) and that there was a golden capstone on it. also look up "white gold" , some kind of powdered gold stuff, pounded to "flour" and then used to make bread dough of. but that's a whole different story. needless to say must've looked pretty f'ing amazing! would've loved to see that. These motherships dont have very good shielding, a couple ion cannons would take one out.... Ofcourse before they were adapted. Btw what your talking about is Monoatomic gold.... I have researched it indeed. EDIT:If you scroll down in the link youll find somebody talking about it in detail, monoatomic gold is impossible to sustain over a period of time without combining it with say copper.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:26:00 - [39] Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:32:00 - [40] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 16:57:18 Originally by: Pwett Micheal, think of it this way: The Sphynx was carved OUT of the bedrock. And in places like New Hampshire, I had to dig approximately 3 feet to hit the granite bedrock in my back yard. it's called the sphinx, not sphynx, furthermore it was NOT built by the egyptians, the pyramids were built around the sphinx.. as the egyptians found and adopted remnants of the civilization that built it.. the sphinx is far older than you think.. hint: water errosion. and YES it was recarved by the pharaoes into a human head.. which is why the head is disproportionate to the body.. its original form was that of a lion symbolizing the star constellation of leo, and symbolising the age of leo 12000 years ago, with its feet slightly buried beneath the sand.. (on purpose) similarly to how leo was seen at that precise location on earth, in approximately 12000 bc back when humanity supposedly still lived in clay huts.. gl with figuring that out... the pyramids were built around the sphinx in another age, and symbolize the constellation of orion, and the sphinx was recarved to make the rest fit presumably. linkage Do you ever post sources that aren't cheesy videos on YouTube? I mean not that I'm making any comment one way or the other on it's contents, I just can't stomach watching that kind of tripe. A nice article, with words and such, would be far more palatable... And before we get all high and mighty about the Sphinx thing, it should be remembered that there has been and still is an immense amount of debate on the subject between two sides with little but circumstantial evidence. Without going and getting several decent degrees in archaeology, Egyptology and ancient North African history, none of us in this thread are well placed to do anything but draw personal opinions from other people's findings. As for the OP's Bosnian Pyramids: these were long since debunked as a viable theory by all but the most desperate of conspiracy theorists. The main proponent of them believes (and has published) that the Atlanteans (before the sinkage, obviously) taught all of the various "sun worshipping" civilizations all manner of secrets, and that Pyramids are (varyingly) either "galactic energy collectors" or portals to other worlds. All conventional geologists who have examined it have concluded that they are normal, everyday hills made of sedimentary layers of varying composition and thickness, much like all the rest of the geographical features in that area (even the boring ones), and that it's shape is kind of interesting, but by all means possible by conventional hill-forming processes. Again, I'm no degree-holding geologist, but I know who's evidence seems more credible to me.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:48:00 - [41] Originally by: 7shining7one7 what is ironic is that our society isn't even close to the time when even the young giza pyramids were built, not to mention the older times... in the terms of science technology and construction, we couldn't even attempt the building of the pyramids within the timeframe it was built in the past, and with such precision.. not to mention things that are still impossible today.. like moving megaliths.. show me a crane that can move a megalith 500 meters up in the air, or a lift that can transport it many miles please and place them with mm precision next to eachother.. show me a powertool that can cut through, and fine polish dyerite base blocks with mm precision.. show me how you can place the pyramids so extremely accurate without using sattelite telemetry, not to mention the extraordinary mathematical "coincidences" in its construction, and its alignment with various things on earth aswell as in space. lol... Put a megalith on 20 or so thick wooden poles (held together with ropes - they would be like tracks on a tank) and roll it over compressed soil.. there was a lot of slaves back then to push it. When the 1st row of the pyramid is complete build some kind of an elevated bridge from the dirt and have the slaves jump on it to compress it and roll the megalith on top of the 1st row.. and so on. This way you don't need cranes. Oh putting the pole underneath the megalith is accomplished by digging from 1 side, sliding the pole in, then repeating from the other side. Another way to build a pyramid would be by using water to float the monoliths, but for that you'd have to flood a huge crater first. Took me 3 minutes to think of these 2 ways, but the Egyptians probably spent years thinking of how to build the pyramids...
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 17:57:00 - [42] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 17:57:51 Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Originally by: 7shining7one7 what is ironic is that our society isn't even close to the time when even the young giza pyramids were built, not to mention the older times... in the terms of science technology and construction, we couldn't even attempt the building of the pyramids within the timeframe it was built in the past, and with such precision.. not to mention things that are still impossible today.. like moving megaliths.. show me a crane that can move a megalith 500 meters up in the air, or a lift that can transport it many miles please and place them with mm precision next to eachother.. show me a powertool that can cut through, and fine polish dyerite base blocks with mm precision.. show me how you can place the pyramids so extremely accurate without using sattelite telemetry, not to mention the extraordinary mathematical "coincidences" in its construction, and its alignment with various things on earth aswell as in space. lol... Put a megalith on 20 or so thick wooden poles (held together with ropes - they would be like tracks on a tank) and roll it over compressed soil.. there was a lot of slaves back then to push it. When the 1st row of the pyramid is complete build some kind of an elevated bridge from the dirt and have the slaves jump on it to compress it and roll the megalith on top of the 1st row.. and so on. This way you don't need cranes. Oh putting the pole underneath the megalith is accomplished by digging from 1 side, sliding the pole in, then repeating from the other side. Another way to build a pyramid would be by using water to float the monoliths, but for that you'd have to flood a huge crater first. Took me 3 minutes to think of these 2 ways, but the Egyptians probably spent years thinking of how to build the pyramids... i don't think you fully understand how much a megalith weighs, nor the complexity in placing them on top of eachother and next to eachother with milimeter precision.. it took you 2 minutes to make rash rationalizations.. that is indeed accurate.. patch86.. that was a documentary by the discovery channel. but wait.. it was put on youtube and therefore it's automatic internet drivel right?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:00:00 - [43] They actually pulled the monoliths on skids and there were people who would sit in front of monolith and pour water on the skids to make a low-friction mud. I've said it before: don't underestimate what can be done by thousands of people building something for their living God.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:04:00 - [44] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:05:39 Originally by: Pwett They actually pulled the monoliths on skids and there were people who would sit in front of monolith and pour water on the skids to make a low-friction mud. I've said it before: don't underestimate what can be done by thousands of people building something for their living God. that's great, could you explain how they went about lifting it, not even our strongest cranes can do that.. don't underestimate the willfull ignorance of millions of people rationalizing things away just so they can accept a certain view of reality that they have comfort in, rather than seeing the big picture. pretty hard to find water in the desert i reckon.. also look at the timeframe (amount of time) in which they were constructed..
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 18:19:35 Seven, your fault is assuming that these people were somehow less capable than we are. They are no different than us, they just had a different technological background. There is archeological evidence that the Egyptians had knowledge of two key items: The pulley and the counter-weight. Do some research of the pyramid of Cheops: There is sufficient evidence that the inner gallery was used to house a counterweight when getting stones up to the higher reaches. There is already sufficient evidence that earthen ramps were used to build the lower levels of the pyramid, and where did they get the earth? Remember, they had to clear down to the bedrock. Once they had built the inner gallery, they then used the same principles that we use for elevators to move the stone blocks to unprecedented heights. /edit: The fact that the pyramids are on dollar bills has to do with the masons, and our founding fathers were deists, and most deists were also mason, and what are the biggest masonry buildings in the world? Oh, but you probably think that the stone masons are some sort of alien cult like their rendition in the sympsons.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:28:00 - [46] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:32:37 Originally by: Pwett Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 18:19:35 Seven, your fault is assuming that these people were somehow less capable than we are. They are no different than us, they just had a different technological background. There is archeological evidence that the Egyptians had knowledge of two key items: The pulley and the counter-weight. Do some research of the pyramid of Cheops: There is sufficient evidence that the inner gallery was used to house a counterweight when getting stones up to the higher reaches. There is already sufficient evidence that earthen ramps were used to build the lower levels of the pyramid, and where did they get the earth? Remember, they had to clear down to the bedrock. Once they had built the inner gallery, they then used the same principles that we use for elevators to move the stone blocks to unprecedented heights. /edit: The fact that the pyramids are on dollar bills has to do with the masons, and our founding fathers were deists, and most deists were also mason, and what are the biggest masonry buildings in the world? Oh, but you probably think that the stone masons are some sort of alien cult like their rendition in the sympsons. nah masons are a whole different story, they were good people, but were infiltrated in recent times by the "pyramid cult" let's just call it that.. it don't have any official name.. some grand master of masonry back in the day called for _the complete disbandment of freemasonry worldwide_ at that point (why would he do that when he was so into it all) and stated that it was because he realized that the higher echelons of the good secret society of free masonry had been ursurped and infiltrated by the pyramid cult, and that it posed such a threat that he was willing to destroy the entire masonry society to get rid of it.. that's gotta start some alarm bells going off in your head.. if that don't then i don't know wtf will.. but you don't hear that on the evening news.. and the rest.. is history.. (IAO) the rest of the rationalizations you make, well you know how i feel about those, i suggest you read a lot more on the topic is all i can say.. you come from one viewpoint with the information you have currently, and i come from a different viewpoint with the information that i have currently.. and that's that..
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:34:00 - [47] Ah yes, but I've read your literature and I know an Elephant Insurance salesmen when I see one. :) Simply because I used to be one. You wouldn't believe the years I spent actually working in the field of ufology.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:44:00 - [48] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:46:37 Originally by: Pwett Ah yes, but I've read your literature and I know an Elephant Insurance salesmen when I see one. :) Simply because I used to be one. You wouldn't believe the years I spent actually working in the field of ufology. assumptions are the mother of all failures.. and our different oppinions speaks volumes of our differential degree of information.. don't equate yourself with me, you're not me. also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere..
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:48:00 - [49] Originally by: 7shining7one7 pretty hard to find water in the desert i reckon.. Call me crazy but isn't that the Nile a mere couple miles from the pyramids?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:52:00 - [50] Originally by: 7shining7one7 also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere.. Heck, we built ours out of Glass Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:54:00 - [51] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 18:54:33 Originally by: Pwett Originally by: 7shining7one7 also i don't see any pyramids in united states do you? what's with all the pyramids on the dollar bill and on information awareness office logo and many other places then.. take your elephants elsewhere.. Heck, we built ours out of Glass thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. also this
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:56:00 - [52] Originally by: 7shining7one7 also this A malformed video?
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that. 'natural pyramids'? Until you can provide some examples of natural pyramids then you are just talking crap.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 18:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich A malformed video? fixed.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:01:00 - [55] Originally by: 7shining7one7 thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. No historical precedence? You mean we're not part of that Western Culture that cataloged the seven wonders of the world, of which the pyramids are still standing? That's like saying there's no historical precedence for the wheel in South America, so all those cars on the road are some sort of grand conspiracy.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:12:00 - [56] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 19:12:48 Originally by: Pwett Originally by: 7shining7one7 thx for the forum breaking picture, but don't pretend you don't know exactly what i mean.. there's no historical presedence for it in the united states.. how about back when the current dollar bill print was designed.. No historical precedence? You mean we're not part of that Western Culture that cataloged the seven wonders of the world, of which the pyramids are still standing? That's like saying there's no historical precedence for the wheel in South America, so all those cars on the road are some sort of grand conspiracy. what business has a country that was founded by people escaping from the british empire, to mold icons depicting another dictatorial empire ruled by pharaos, and by your own admission utilizing slaves as playing a small part in pyramid construction?.. are you having a laugh.. how much denial do you have to be in to accept that as a natural thing.. well ... you should know... anyways, pointless talking about this further with your arbitrary incoherence and blatant scapegoating. good day to you sir.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:21:00 - [57] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 19/08/2008 17:26:02 They are natural pyramids, formed from geological activity. They are that until it is conclusively proved that they were man made. Nothing in that video or on the website shows even a glimmer of proof they were constructed by humans. Yes, nature can construct something exactly on the cardinal points, nothing man-made about that. 'natural pyramids'? Until you can provide some examples of natural pyramids then you are just talking crap. The are a lot Naturally formed geological features that are roughly pyramid in shape, even Mars has them. But if you can't prove they were man made surely just say, well nature can't make that shape, and just shove your **** in everyone's face proclaiming to be the "winnar".
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:22:00 - [58] Originally by: 7shining7one7 i don't think you fully understand how much a megalith weighs, nor the complexity in placing them on top of eachother and next to eachother with milimeter precision.. it took you 2 minutes to make rash rationalizations.. that is indeed accurate.. how much does it weigh? 100 tonnes?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:23:00 - [59] Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 19:27:21 Maybe because pyramids are something that have stood the test of time, and their hope was that our grand experiment would do the same thing? They have outlasted the Pharaohs, and it was Franklin's belief that one man couldn't do it alone, but a group of men, with the help of God, could do anything. What better way to encapsulate that statement than the pyramids? /edit: I see you've devolved into the ad hominem again
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:32:00 - [60] Charles Thomson (no doubt part of the paladins I'm sure) specified a "Pyramid unfinished" and gave only a brief explanation of the symbolism, saying the pyramid signifies "Strength and Duration" û no doubt influenced by the Great Pyramid. ----------------------- What better symbol than an eye to represent a watchful and vigilant, protective and loving, omniscient God? The human eye is a marvelous creation, one that certainly suggests the work of a Creator, as noted in many religions and cultures. (noting how religious the founding fathers were but I'm sure this could be interpreted as big brother is watching you) Annuit means to nod assent, to favor, to smile upon. Coeptis means undertakings, endeavors, beginnings. -------------------------- Annuit coeptis means "favors (lit., gives the nod to) undertakings." The subject must be supplied. Who favors? The Eye (Providence) does. The verb annuit can be either present tense or perfect tense, therefore an accurate translation of the motto is: "Providence favors our undertakings" or "Providence has favored our undertakings." (The word "our" is supplied.) (It has also been translated as: "He favors our undertakings" or "He has prospered our endeavors.") The meaning of this motto is better understood when seen in its original classical context. ---------------------- Novus means: new, young, novel. Ordo means: row, series, order. Seclorum means: of the ages, of the generations, of the centuries. An accurate translation of Novus Ordo Seclorum is "A New Order of the Ages," but the meaning of this motto is better understood when seen in its original context. (somehow this gets translated to new world order a lot, also by the paladins)
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:32:00 - [61] wasn't it recently found that at a time it was thought the native Britons were living in mud huts they actually had pretty ace, well designed solid stone houses where small communities lived? humans have been evolved for a long time, and it's so easy for a disaster to wipe out all traces of social advancement and set humanity back a millennia. Just look at mayans and that, built up to an advanced level then died out.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:44:00 - [62] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 19:47:55 that's so blatantly false.. novos ordos seclorum means new secular order.. he needs his money back from his latin classes whoever translated that.. annuit coeptus means inception [of an] undertaking.. so what is undertaken.. novos ordos seclorum.. a new secular order is in inception.. or has been birthed.. today begins the new secular/world order.. / today is the new secular order concieved/birthed.. pyramid with the capstone missing... look up where that comes from.. religious? haha.. definately not christian.. the bible warns about this new secular order in many many occations.. saying the leaders of the world will take council against god and his annointed.. and saying which congression has jesus with belial?.. (baal/molok) molok is even described in the religious bible aswell, as a demon god to whom the cults of babylon sacrificed children to.. cue bohemian grove where they perform an occult ceremony and sacrifice a child in effigy.. and as with all such rituals, while coating it with a thick layer of humor and words that seem innocent but have deeper meanings, thus most of the participants thinks it's harmless fun, and the initiated ones sees the hidden meaning behind the acts. molok worship all over again... so if they were christians, they were doing it wrong. nah they were freemasons later ursurped by the pyramid group, starting at the higher echelons and then trickling down, only the 3 public levels are known.. and albert pike who'm everyone who doesn't know who is should know about (helped found the ku klux clan) and is today a hero of the ursurped freemasonry.. the pyramid with the all seing eye is an egyptian symbol, has diddly squat to do with stability or freedom.. and everything to do with hierachical control and the ultimate overseers on the top, the enlightened ones, symbolized by the eye.. ruling from above over the rest of the pyramids.. hence the division between the cap stone and the eye.. the division is because the cap stone is divided from the public.. only select few go there, the rest can only get to the part where they think the pyramid ends and think they are on top of the world, such as the presidents and such.. and never see the "all seing eye".. because the ruling class is separated from the rest of the pyramid (the public) and rule over them covertly.. from above.
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:44:00 - [63] Originally by: Xen Gin The are a lot Naturally formed geological features that are roughly pyramid in shape, even Mars has them. Eh, NO! What you are refering to, is a picture taken from mars orbit with some shadows attached to it. It is by no means a pyramid. Do I really have to explain in detail how much of a straw you are clinging to if you need to go to mars to find a 'natural pyramid'? Quote: But if you can't prove they were man made surely just say, well nature can't make that shape, and just shove your **** in everyone's face proclaiming to be the "winnar". You haven't refuted anything, nor brought any evidence, just made a complete fool out of yourself.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:53:00 - [64] Originally by: 7shining7one7 expected info Such imaginative minds ya'all have. Why isn't the pyramid on any other bills? I've got a few ones, a ten, and a twenty on me currently and I can't find it. And why was the symbol originally turned down by congress?
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 19:55:00 - [65] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 expected info Such imaginative minds ya'all have. Why isn't the pyramid on any other bills? I've got a few ones, a ten, and a twenty on me currently and I can't find it. And why was the symbol originally turned down by congress? same reason they rejected the federal reserve system which was scoundreled through congress while everyone was on holiday except a few.. cause of this
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:11:00 - [66] Random quotes about the world banking system didn't help answer my 2 questions. I'm gonna move on to the Earth is growing video while I get a response from you
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:18:00 - [67] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Random quotes about the world banking system didn't help answer my 2 questions. I'm gonna move on to the Earth is growing video while I get a response from you dietrich you should try watching the video, and the rest will be self explanatory.. it's not about the banking system... that's just the surface of it.. there's been so many warnings from past politicians about these guys.. yet here we are.. ruled by them.. as they are prepping to switch from covert to overt control..
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:23:00 - [68] I have to admit, Metal Gear Solid 2 was pretty awesome.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:28:00 - [69] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 20:18:48 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Random quotes about the world banking system didn't help answer my 2 questions. I'm gonna move on to the Earth is growing video while I get a response from you dietrich you should try watching the video, and the rest will be self explanatory.. it's not about the banking system... that's just the surface of it.. there's been so many warnings from past politicians about these guys.. yet here we are.. ruled by them.. as they are prepping to switch from covert to overt control.. yet they can only hold up their house of cards because they conned people into thinking they have to hold them up.. get out of your own way and start non co-operating.. I did watch the video. why was the guy in the beginning sitting behind a desk payed for by the same monetary note that he's claiming as evil? why is the pyramid not on any other bills (I found a five in my other pocket and I didn't see the pyramid there either) Why did the government shoot down the seal but pick it up later on. Why is it taking them so freaking long to set up a superpower when Wal-mart and Microsoft did it on a few decades? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different?
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:31:00 - [70] Originally by: Pwett I have to admit, Metal Gear Solid 2 was pretty awesome. it seems most of your information comes from video games that i have never played, why don't you just shut up now?
krelak	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:34:00 - [71] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: 7shining7one7 expected info Such imaginative minds ya'all have. Why isn't the pyramid on any other bills? I've got a few ones, a ten, and a twenty on me currently and I can't find it. And why was the symbol originally turned down by congress? same reason they rejected the federal reserve system which was scoundreled through congress while everyone was on holiday except a few.. cause of this Bah, peasants aren't cattle. They're sheep that need help over the fence.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:34:00 - [72] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 20:38:05 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 20:35:39 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 20:28:58 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 20:18:48 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Random quotes about the world banking system didn't help answer my 2 questions. I'm gonna move on to the Earth is growing video while I get a response from you dietrich you should try watching the video, and the rest will be self explanatory.. it's not about the banking system... that's just the surface of it.. there's been so many warnings from past politicians about these guys.. yet here we are.. ruled by them.. as they are prepping to switch from covert to overt control.. yet they can only hold up their house of cards because they conned people into thinking they have to hold them up.. get out of your own way and start non co-operating.. I did watch the video. why was the guy in the beginning sitting behind a desk payed for by the same monetary note that he's claiming as evil? why is the pyramid not on any other bills (I found a five in my other pocket and I didn't see the pyramid there either) Why did the government shoot down the seal but pick it up later on. Why is it taking them so freaking long to set up a superpower when Wal-mart and Microsoft did it on a few decades? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control? it has never been about nationality or governments of single countries, nationalism is a f'ing joke to these guys, they care as much about you, your family and your country, as you care about some poor little kid in india peeling batteries for a living. engineer wars, drive the us economy down the drain with overspending.. "save" the united states with NAU (north american union) uniting canada mexico and united states with a new "strong" currency "like the euro".. and make a new constitution. go after "rogue terrorist nations".. turn the transnational peace keeping forces into a new world army.. merge nau, african union, asian union with european union.. one world government surveillance and removal of liberties "to keep you safe" removal of guns "to lower crimes" rfid chips with all personal information including fiscal ressources into a global ident system allready built and ready. an electronic cash system so they can deny you purchase at the push of a button. woila.. you're toast, welcome to slavery.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:35:00 - [73] Originally by: 7shining7one7 patch86.. that was a documentary by the discovery channel. but wait.. it was put on youtube and therefore it's automatic internet drivel right? No, I fully realise that its a Discovery video. I even watched some of it. I just find that kind of schmaltzy documentary unbearable; and in any case, my tolerance for watching even decent videos is relatively low. I can read pretty fast, and can skim my way through as many text-based sources as is ever linked on these boards. I can just never quite bring myself to commit to a 50 minute documentary video every time there's a conspiracy theory thread...
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:49:00 - [74] Originally by: 7shining7one7 "save" the united states with NAU (north american union) uniting canada mexico and united states with a new "strong" currency "like the euro".. and make a new constitution. shot down Originally by: 7shining7one7 merge nau, african union, asian union with european union.. one world government Kind of hard when NAU was shot down. I'm still trying to put russia and China into this as well. Originally by: 7shining7one7 surveillance and removal of liberties "to keep you safe" removal of guns "to lower crimes" BUT HOW!?!?! That is what I want to know! Have you ever heard the quote "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers."? Originally by: 7shining7one7 rfid chips with all personal information including fiscal ressources into a global ident system allready built and ready. Why isn't it implemented? I think I heard something about people having an issue with chips in them. Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control?
Irish Whiskey Caldari The Black Fleet The Black Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:53:00 - [75] I really thought this was going to be a thread about Slade's constant pyramid quoting
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 20:57:00 - [76] oh fgs dietrich stop repeating yourself i allready answered all of that.. nau rfid the initial steps yeah you hang on to your gun when you loose your house.. then you'll be homeless and go into the homeless rfid tracking program as a test subject.. watch out for a potential "terrorist nuke attack" oh yes they'll damn well nuke a few of you if they have to, to bring in this system.. they killed 1.3m ppl in iraq, you think they give a damn about a few more million nuked americans being the catalyst for this if the public oppinion can't be swayed to give over liberty in exchange for security? and then the "threat of invasion from outer space" as the climax.. unless you do something about it.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:20:00 - [77] The idea for a North American currency union was first proposed in 1999 by Canadian economist Herbert G. Grubel. A senior fellow of the conservative Fraser Institute think-tank, he published a book entitled The Case for the Amero in September 1999, the year that the euro became a virtual currency. Another Canadian think-tank, the C.D. Howe Institute, advocates the creation of a shared currency between Canada and the United States. After the report came out, centre-left nationalist groups in Canada expressed their opposition to any currency union because they view it as an attempt by American businesses to gain access to Canada's extensive natural resources while dismantling the nation's social services. The 100,000 member strong Council of Canadians, a progressive advocacy group, has declared one of its central issues to be the threat of "deep integration". In August 2007, rumors and conspiracy theories began circulating across the Internet regarding alleged United States Treasury-issued "amero" coins. The inspiration behind these rumors may have been the posting of images of medallions created by coin designer Daniel Carr. Carr, who designed the New York and Rhode Island 2001 statehood quarters, sells medals and tokens of his own design on his commercial website, "Designs Computed" (also known as "DC Coin"). Among his designs are a series of gold, silver and copper fantasy issues of "amero coins" ranging in denomination from one to one thousand. The coins have the legend "Union of North America" on the back with his company's logo, a stylized "DC", in small type. Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control? I've seen a few attempt to a Kansas city shuffle but I haven't seen the answer from you yet
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:22:00 - [78] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 21:22:34 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich repetitious trolling stop trolling right now or this conversation is over. watch links in previous post.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:29:00 - [79] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 21:36:22 Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? ~~How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control?~~ (You actually kinda explained that one. Yes the country would tear itself to pieces and it's a process I'm now afraid of if Obama steps into office. But I would think that would muck up plans for world domination a tad, especially when a new government is formed amidst the chaos) Why do I get a straighter answer from my gay manager?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:35:00 - [80] Edited by: Pwett on 19/08/2008 21:35:37 Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Pwett I have to admit, Metal Gear Solid 2 was pretty awesome. it seems most of your information comes from video games that i have never played, why don't you just shut up now? hehe, the allusion is in reference to your arguments. You should pick up the game, it's very entertaining. /edit: As is this thread.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:39:00 - [81] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 21:36:22 Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? ~~How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control?~~ (You actually kinda explained that one. Yes the country would tear itself to pieces and it's a process I'm now afraid of if Obama steps into office. But I would think that would muck up plans for world domination a tad, especially when a new government is formed amidst the chaos) Why do I get a straighter answer from my gay manager? in dietrich land, iq eats you
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:40:00 - [82] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 21:40:10 lag double post
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:44:00 - [83] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 21:36:22 Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? ~~How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control?~~ (You actually kinda explained that one. Yes the country would tear itself to pieces and it's a process I'm now afraid of if Obama steps into office. But I would think that would muck up plans for world domination a tad, especially when a new government is formed amidst the chaos) Why do I get a straighter answer from my gay manager? in dietrich land, iq eats you You could just answer his questions. That way he wouldn't keep posting them. Even if you've already answered them; that's why god invented copy/paste.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:46:00 - [84] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 21:36:22 Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? ~~How would the government go about disarming several million, nay, billion people for world control?~~ (You actually kinda explained that one. Yes the country would tear itself to pieces and it's a process I'm now afraid of if Obama steps into office. But I would think that would muck up plans for world domination a tad, especially when a new government is formed amidst the chaos) Why do I get a straighter answer from my gay manager? in dietrich land, iq eats you Nice job resorting to personal attacks, very common among CT's. Keeping my quote in place for re-asking of questions.
Amandin Adouin Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:51:00 - [85] Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 19/08/2008 21:54:38 I must say this thread had my inner conspiracy theorist wiggling in her seat for the last half hour of work. I couldn't watch the videos for fear of giving away my secret addiction to Eve forums to my co-workers, so I've got some catching up to do. But thanks ShiningOne for making my work day that much more bearable. Although your random usage of 'are you having a laugh' was alittel jarring considering I just watched all the episodes of Extras and I kept getting the image of a black curly headed Ricky Gervais with big glasses in my head So let's get back on track... who knows about the Sumerians and what exactly is this big Sphinx secret that was alluded to??? And can you stop the double-posting Dietrich, it's messing up my read. We all saw your questions and your re-posting them is annoying. He'll answer them or he won't.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 21:59:00 - [86] He won't and I won't, no, sorry. I am reading up on the Sumarians though as we speak so I can 'catch up' on that history some.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:02:00 - [87] oh fgs.. ok kindergarden dietrich, let me spoonfeed you then.. gugu gaga.. Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? -> cause usa is an integral part in the new world order, it was risen to military super power for this very reason.. and it's a mark for the initiated to know what is going on.. they deal heavily in symbols, when you look you see a pyramid, when they look they see something entirely different.. same with certain words and phrases.. Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? cause people found it odd, then the symbolism was explained in a way that was pallatable, while meaning something completely different, and it was passed, the symbolism explains isn't want it it really means, but since it was explained in some detail they have the plausible deniability "oh we didn't mean for it to symbolize that, you're just reading too much into it, we are innocent.. it's just innocent symbols and letters and "peculiar coincidences" Why was the desk the guy in the video was sitting behind paid for by the same monetary statement that he claims as evil? why were you born into this world when it sucks so badly? see what i did there? because in order to function in this system set up to control us money is a necessity to attain goods and food and such. but only untill we change the system into something better. let me answer your question with another question. why do you need to pay to live on the planet you were born on? nobody has any genuine right to claim anything except the right they give themselves.. what would happen if we decided to eliminate all debt and gave everybody the same amount of symbolic money and then just demanded that you performed a function, and switched around between various functions in intervals, but not to make money but just to improve society and to maintain society and keep it going, no stress, allways covered, no need for robberies or greed? and no debt.. i'll tell you what would happen.. the elite would loose their powergrip.. and people would be free. If a government official statements are false for the being of control then what makes a conspiracy theorists statements different? huh? you're going to have to run that by me one more time in a more coherent manner. But I would think that would muck up plans for world domination a tad, especially when a new government is formed amidst the chaos there are no coincidences in forming a government.. underground bases and protective shelters and so forth.. Why do I get a straighter answer from my gay manager? because he's a straight shooter.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:11:00 - [88] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 19/08/2008 22:12:15 Originally by: Irish Whiskey I really thought this was going to be a thread about Slade's constant pyramid quoting Well at least now I am aware that I am doing it. I am not exactly sure what pyramid quoting is. I see so many forms of quoting and not really sure what is right or wrong. I am forum noob please explain here or send me an eve mail. Slade
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:31:00 - [89] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 19/08/2008 22:34:24 Now see, that wasn't so hard now was it. Although you still had to throw insult into it which kind of muddied it a bit. Originally by: 7shining7one7 Why is the pyramid not on any other bills? -> cause usa is an integral part in the new world order, it was risen to military super power for this very reason.. and it's a mark for the initiated to know what is going on.. they deal heavily in symbols, when you look you see a pyramid, when they look they see something entirely different.. same with certain words and phrases.. Why wasn't the pyramid on the duestchmark in WW2 when the secret society had set up camp there? Originally by: 7shining7one7 Why was the symbol shot down by congress at first? cause people found it odd, then the symbolism was explained in a way that was pallatable, while meaning something completely different, and it was passed, the symbolism explains isn't want it it really means, but since it was explained in some detail they have the plausible deniability "oh we didn't mean for it to symbolize that, you're just reading too much into it, we are innocent.. it's just innocent symbols and letters and "peculiar coincidences" I can accept that and leave it be. Originally by: 7shining7one7 shortened because in order to function in this system set up to control us money is a necessity to attain goods and food and such. but only untill we change the system into something better. let me answer your question with another question. [b] why do you need to pay to live on the planet you were born on? Bartering was a means to trade goods between 2 parties. Without bartering we would more likely have barbarism in the form of I take what I want. Bartering was later replaced in the form of coinage as a simpler means of trade, usually gold as it is easily melted down for other purposes but copper and silver were also in place. Barter was still present however. Later this process was replaced by the paper form of money as it made traveling much easier. 500 gold weighs more than $500 in bills, not to mention it shows a bit more. You even explain this yourself. (All this was for the shortened bit) Taxes are a form of unification. Before taxes were made to pay for supplies on a larger scale to build castle walls, to arm, train, and feed the military. And that still holds today. As much of an evil as taxes are, without them our roads would be in sad shape, we wouldn't be able to protect our borders from invaders, we couldn't enfore law and order. it would be a cut throat world out there. Originally by: 7shining7one7 nobody has any genuine right to claim anything except the right they give themselves.. This is true but not everybody was born to be a leader (I mean look at GW) Some lead, many follow. Originally by: 7shining7one7 what would happen if we decided to eliminate all debt and gave everybody the same amount of symbolic money and then just demanded that you performed a function, and switched around between various functions in intervals, but not to make money but just to improve society and to maintain society and keep it going, no stress, allways covered, no need for robberies or greed? and no debt.. be a wonderful world (maybe) but never possible. Kinda sounds like socialism meets equilibriam Originally by: 7shining7one7 my question huh? you're going to have to run that by me one more time in a more coherent manner. Guy A makes statement and says it's true Guy B call him a liar and he makes statement claiming it truth. What makes guy B any different from guy A. Or. How can we trust Guy B anymore than we can trust Guy A Replace A and B with government and CT's in any order you like. And thank you for finally answering.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:41:00 - [90] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 22:47:01 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Why wasn't the pyramid on the duestchmark in WW2 when the secret society had set up camp there? because the **** regime wasn't meant to win, it was meant to loose, to catalyze the beginning of the free trade agreement that was to become the european union. ** and his men were lied to, told that they were going to win, being funded by the secret societies through their banking pawns such as herbert walker bush, and later betrayed.. overt empirical rule was not sustainable, rome had fallen british empire had fallen, a covert strategy was called for, nobody wants to rebell if they think they are free.. you want to talk about symbolism though? look at the hats, skull and the eagle and so on, very esoteric occult symbols meaning things that are very different from what you think they do.. to the initiated... you see a skull, they see something else.. you see an eagle, they see something entirely different. here's a hint.. columbia, dove.. isis/statue of liberty.. i'll start you off with that. making people think that they are the ones shaping the world, nudging them in the direction you want them to go.. if you think the nasi regime potential was bad, it pales in comparison to what these guys want to do with the world... it was also a ploy to give the jews more power.. the higher echelon ones in israel, to be used later to destabilize the middle east.. the holocaust was a catalysing event that would ensure the jewish members of the higher echelons of the cults immunity in the future from all persecution.. by simply saying holocaust.. yes the jewish members of the higher echelons condoned the slaughter of their own people in concentration camps while remaining safe themselves, they don't care.. don't you get it.. we are just tools for them to use is their oppinion... they have no nationality.. the only allegiance they have is to their brotherhoods. Originally by:** Micheal Dietrich Guy A makes statement and says it's true Guy B call him a liar and he makes statement claiming it truth. What makes guy B any different from guy A. Or. How can we trust Guy B anymore than we can trust Guy A Replace A and B with government and CT's in any order you like. And thank you for finally answering. overwhelming evidence, politicians caught lying and getting away with it. the ability of CT's to seemingly predict the future 20 years in advance.. and not because they are psychics.. we're in a huge game of chess.. and some know the next moves and some do not.. yet if we do nothing then those moves will be made and eventually we will be checkmate..
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:54:00 - [91] george h walker bush breaks down guess he figured out who's really running the pyramid.. glass cage of emotion.. remember he was director of the cia and played a huge part in the ufo coverup scheme.. like many things.. you see a man crying over pride for his sons work.. and for the "initiated" into certain knowledge, you see something entirely different.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.08.19 23:06:00 - [92] Now while the unified world was mentioned with everyone working for the common good I also believe that a total world power is also not possible. It's kind of like religion, if a sect doesn't like the current rules they branch off and make their own set of rules. The same can be said for governmental control. This especially plays out when concerning guns. When they gave us the right to bear arms that would be a mistake on their part because now people will refuse to give them up. Nuking one of our own cities and calling it a terrorist act will have an adverse effect as it will only make people want to hold onto guns even more. Sending in the military won't be as much value because your talking about the same people with guns here. Some will side with the government, some will side with the 'defecters'. the chip debate has been up for a long time and people have been fighting it and I see no reason for that to stop. Originally by: Princess Leia The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. May be a fictional quote but I'd say it holds some truth.
7shining7one7 Gallente Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage	Posted - 2008.08.19 23:13:00 - [93] Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 19/08/2008 23:15:32 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Now while the unified world was mentioned with everyone working for the common good I also believe that a total world power is also not possible. unless you are chipped with a behavioural modifying nano chip that can be administered through vaccinations if need be. they just want us to choose it for ourselves.. playing with free will here... this is a bigger scheme than you ever possibly imagined.. Originally by: Micheal Dietrich This especially plays out when concerning guns. When they gave us the right to bear arms that would be a mistake on their part because now people will refuse to give them up. Nuking one of our own cities and calling it a terrorist act will have an adverse effect as it will only make people want to hold onto guns even more. Sending in the military won't be as much value because your talking about the same people with guns here. Some will side with the government, some will side with the 'defecters'. seemed to work out pretty well with 9/11, you were looking at iraq and they took most of your freedom and liberty away with the excuse to protect your freedom and give you security.. wth do you think a nuke will do if the deaths of 3000 ppl in a few skysc**rs can cause that kind of a political change? also the prospect of the NAU means a NEW CONSTITUTION they can write as they see fit unless you do something about it.. and there don't have to be any rights to carry guns in that, you watch for it if it comes to that they'll push some argument or make someone go on a shotgun frenzy or whatever.. Originally by:** Micheal Dietrich the chip debate has been up for a long time and people have been fighting it and I see no reason for that to stop. Originally by: Princess Leia The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. May be a fictional quote but I'd say it holds some truth. i wish you are right dietrich, i really do.. yes, resist the chip by any and all means.
Irish Whiskey Caldari The Black Fleet The Black Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.19 23:18:00 - [94] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Princess Leia The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Mike you crack me up sometimes

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