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Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.05 03:51:00 - [1] Since a lot of people are currently making signatures, I thought it would be best if I posted a bit about the signature rules. Originally by: EVE Forum Rules 18. Screenshots may not be posted. In order to provide optimum forum performance for our users, the posting of screenshots is prohibited in the forum. You may provide links to screenshots you have hosted elsewhere. Screenshots taken from the world of EVE may be posted in the Screenshot section, provided they are in accordance with the rules set forth for that section of our site. Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona. The size lmits for signature graphics are: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 15 kb Maximum area: 30,000 pixels The first part of this rule means you can't post screenshots, and the second that you can't post images. This means that if you make a signature for someone else, you can't post the signature itself on the forums, post a link instead. Then there's what a signature can contain, it means that a signature has to be related to your character and EVE, if you call yourself "Freud" you can include a sig of Sigmund Freud, so it doesn't mean it has to be completely space/EVE related. But including a image of your house would be wrong. And here's the slightly complicated stuff, the size limits. The first two are easy, the signature can only be 400 pixels wide and 120 pixels high. The third can be a bit confusing, 15 kb isnt 15000 bytes, it's 15360 bytes. So you'r signature can be 15360 bytes big at the most. We discussed what we should do if it was only a few bytes more a long time ago, and decided not to allow it. Simply because first people will wan't just a few bytes more, then 100 bytes, then 300 and so on until the size limit doesn't mean anything anymore. That's why we must insist you keep it to 15360 bytes max, not one byte more. The fourth and last size limit is the complicated bit. If you multiply the width and height you'll get the signature pixel area, and this area has to be below 30000 pixels. So even though max width is 400 and max height is 120 you can't make a signature thats 400x120, since the area of that sig would be 48000 pixels. The reason for the area size limit is to allow for different shaped signatures, some signatures are a bit longer but not so high, while others are high but not so long. If there's any questions about how to apply these rules, please post and we'll try to answer. But this thread is to help sig makers out, not discuss the rule itself, such posts will be deleted. Have fun and make some nice signatures! [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.05 03:51:00 - [2] Since a lot of people are currently making signatures, I thought it would be best if I posted a bit about the signature rules. Originally by: EVE Forum Rules 18. Screenshots may not be posted. In order to provide optimum forum performance for our users, the posting of screenshots is prohibited in the forum. You may provide links to screenshots you have hosted elsewhere. Screenshots taken from the world of EVE may be posted in the Screenshot section, provided they are in accordance with the rules set forth for that section of our site. Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona. The size lmits for signature graphics are: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 15 kb Maximum area: 30,000 pixels The first part of this rule means you can't post screenshots, and the second that you can't post images. This means that if you make a signature for someone else, you can't post the signature itself on the forums, post a link instead. Then there's what a signature can contain, it means that a signature has to be related to your character and EVE, if you call yourself "Freud" you can include a sig of Sigmund Freud, so it doesn't mean it has to be completely space/EVE related. But including a image of your house would be wrong. And here's the slightly complicated stuff, the size limits. The first two are easy, the signature can only be 400 pixels wide and 120 pixels high. The third can be a bit confusing, 15 kb isnt 15000 bytes, it's 15360 bytes. So you'r signature can be 15360 bytes big at the most. We discussed what we should do if it was only a few bytes more a long time ago, and decided not to allow it. Simply because first people will wan't just a few bytes more, then 100 bytes, then 300 and so on until the size limit doesn't mean anything anymore. That's why we must insist you keep it to 15360 bytes max, not one byte more. The fourth and last size limit is the complicated bit. If you multiply the width and height you'll get the signature pixel area, and this area has to be below 30000 pixels. So even though max width is 400 and max height is 120 you can't make a signature thats 400x120, since the area of that sig would be 48000 pixels. The reason for the area size limit is to allow for different shaped signatures, some signatures are a bit longer but not so high, while others are high but not so long. If there's any questions about how to apply these rules, please post and we'll try to answer. But this thread is to help sig makers out, not discuss the rule itself, such posts will be deleted. Have fun and make some nice signatures! Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

RagnarH	Posted - 2004.06.05 22:41:00 - [3] bleh This char is perm banned on forums :S
RagnarH Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2004.06.05 22:41:00 - [4] bleh
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.06.06 13:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 06/06/2004 14:17:21 Allready having fun m8 And have modified all my sigs because the got past 15Kb max. ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2004.06.06 13:59:00 - [6] Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 06/06/2004 14:17:21 Allready having fun m8 And have modified all my sigs because the got past 15Kb max. ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Necrome	Posted - 2004.06.07 21:38:00 - [7] i find that white takes alot of memory, if there are small rea's of black, so, aim for a 2d border(white) and the center cna be anything, but not obsene Mine is good because its mainly black Necrome Arts 3-5mil a peice in game contact only please ' Be alive when ever you can'
Necrome Caldari Casting Shadows	Posted - 2004.06.07 21:38:00 - [8] i find that white takes alot of memory, if there are small rea's of black, so, aim for a 2d border(white) and the center cna be anything, but not obsene Mine is good because its mainly black Necrome Arts 3-5mil a peice in game contact only please
Harisdrop	Posted - 2004.06.08 14:27:00 - [9] I want the Gallente women sigs to be NUDES!!!! DRoooool -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2004.06.08 14:27:00 - [10] I want the Gallente women sigs to be NUDES!!!! DRoooool New NPC NPC Market
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb	Posted - 2004.06.09 23:37:00 - [11] What if the sig is politically motivating? Posting for Numbnutz
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb Gallente Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2004.06.09 23:37:00 - [12] What if the sig is politically motivating?
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.10 00:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb What if the sig is politically motivating? "Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona." [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.10 00:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb What if the sig is politically motivating? "Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona." Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Mandaus	Posted - 2004.06.13 16:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Wrangler "Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona." This seems a little strict, since it rules out stars, planets and ships, in fact it rules out any image, since it only allows the logo and text :D

Mandaus Caldari Navy	Posted - 2004.06.13 16:15:00 - [16] Originally by: Wrangler "Other images are not permitted, with the exception of signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona." This seems a little strict, since it rules out stars, planets and ships, in fact it rules out any image, since it only allows the logo and text :D

Nuladen	Posted - 2004.06.20 08:38:00 - [17] There seems to be quite a few sigs breaking the size rules at present. Nul.
Nuladen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2004.06.20 08:38:00 - [18] There seems to be quite a few sigs breaking the size rules at present. Nul.
Malnedra	Posted - 2004.06.21 14:57:00 - [19] test
Malnedra Minmatar Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2004.06.21 14:57:00 - [20] test
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.21 15:04:00 - [21] Originally by: Malnedra test In the future, test here instead please. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2004.06.21 15:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Malnedra test In the future, test here instead please. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Xelios	Posted - 2004.06.29 06:00:00 - [23] I'd guess at least a third of the sig pics on this forum are breaking the size rules, maybe even half of them. Are these rules enforced or can I make a bigger sig pic too? 30,000 pixels isn't much to work with if you want to get fancy.
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2004.06.29 06:00:00 - [24] I'd guess at least a third of the sig pics on this forum are breaking the size rules, maybe even half of them. Are these rules enforced or can I make a bigger sig pic too? 30,000 pixels isn't much to work with if you want to get fancy.
Sherkaner	Posted - 2004.06.29 08:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Xelios I'd guess at least a third of the sig pics on this forum are breaking the size rules, maybe even half of them. Are these rules enforced or can I make a bigger sig pic too? 30,000 pixels isn't much to work with if you want to get fancy. You should never break any of the forum rules. And yes, the sig limits are enforced, sooner or later we'll catch every oversized sig forum rules \| [email protected]

Sherkaner Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2004.06.29 08:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Xelios I'd guess at least a third of the sig pics on this forum are breaking the size rules, maybe even half of them. Are these rules enforced or can I make a bigger sig pic too? 30,000 pixels isn't much to work with if you want to get fancy. You should never break any of the forum rules. And yes, the sig limits are enforced, sooner or later we'll catch every oversized sig forum rules \| [email protected]

Skurge Allmighty	Posted - 2004.08.19 19:33:00 - [27] Just wanted to see if this sig meets ur requirements http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/Signature-1.jpg Edited - Wrangler
Skurge Allmighty	Posted - 2004.08.19 19:33:00 - [28] Just wanted to see if this sig meets ur requirements http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/Signature-1.jpg Edited - Wrangler
Skurge Allmighty	Posted - 2004.08.19 19:33:00 - [29] Just wanted to see if this sig meets ur requirements http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/Signature-1.jpg Edited - Wrangler
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.08.21 00:39:00 - [30] Skurge Allmighty, it doesn't. Your signature is 375x110 = 41250 pixels. Allowed area is 30000 pixels. You have to change either width or height (or both) so that your image is below that area. Meanwhile I removed your image, please make sure it's the correct area before you put it in your signature. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.08.21 00:39:00 - [31] Skurge Allmighty, it doesn't. Your signature is 375x110 = 41250 pixels. Allowed area is 30000 pixels. You have to change either width or height (or both) so that your image is below that area. Meanwhile I removed your image, please make sure it's the correct area before you put it in your signature. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2004.08.21 00:39:00 - [32] Skurge Allmighty, it doesn't. Your signature is 375x110 = 41250 pixels. Allowed area is 30000 pixels. You have to change either width or height (or both) so that your image is below that area. Meanwhile I removed your image, please make sure it's the correct area before you put it in your signature. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Tolkh	Posted - 2004.08.22 18:17:00 - [33] Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ?
Tolkh	Posted - 2004.08.22 18:17:00 - [34] Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ?
Tolkh	Posted - 2004.08.22 18:17:00 - [35] Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ?
Dark Jester	Posted - 2004.08.24 18:08:00 - [36] Originally by: Sherkaner And yes, the sig limits are enforced, sooner or later we'll catch every oversized sig Yeah right. There's an oversized sig in this very thread, and you didnt even catch that one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2004.07.08 14:50:50combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 836.2 damage.
Dark Jester	Posted - 2004.08.24 18:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Sherkaner And yes, the sig limits are enforced, sooner or later we'll catch every oversized sig Yeah right. There's an oversized sig in this very thread, and you didnt even catch that one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2004.07.08 14:50:50combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 836.2 damage.
Dark Jester Minmatar	Posted - 2004.08.24 18:08:00 - [38] Originally by: Sherkaner And yes, the sig limits are enforced, sooner or later we'll catch every oversized sig Yeah right. There's an oversized sig in this very thread, and you didnt even catch that one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2004.07.08 14:50:50combatYour 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Rogue Pirate Escort, wrecking for 836.2 damage.
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Tolkh Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ? The rules doesnt actually say that you can have a signature that is 400x120, it says that max width is 400 and max height is 120. But the area limit is 30000, so you can never have a 400x120 image. The reason is simply that instead of limiting the area to, for example 300x75 we want to allow different sizes for images. And the width, height and area limits together makes sure that is possible. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:47:00 - [40] Originally by: Tolkh Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ? The rules doesnt actually say that you can have a signature that is 400x120, it says that max width is 400 and max height is 120. But the area limit is 30000, so you can never have a 400x120 image. The reason is simply that instead of limiting the area to, for example 300x75 we want to allow different sizes for images. And the width, height and area limits together makes sure that is possible. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2004.10.02 11:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Tolkh Edited by: Tolkh on 22/08/2004 21:07:11 I have never made a sig but was looking into it. There is something I don't understand, it's about the max pixels limit, what does this affect ? I mean if I make a sig that is respecting your X, Y size of 400,120 and it also respect your size of 15Kb then what difference does it make the number of pixels found in it ? I guess what I means is that I understand the need to limit the axis so there is no abuse and the size so its more user friendly but I find the pixels limits unnecessary after that. If someone has a 400 X 120 15 kb sig and someone else has a 400 x 60 15 kb sig for me its the same thing in term of impact/performance hit. Isn't not ? The rules doesnt actually say that you can have a signature that is 400x120, it says that max width is 400 and max height is 120. But the area limit is 30000, so you can never have a 400x120 image. The reason is simply that instead of limiting the area to, for example 300x75 we want to allow different sizes for images. And the width, height and area limits together makes sure that is possible. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2005.01.15 15:36:00 - [42] Hmm, why is it that everyone's siggys are screwed up now... yet the Moderators and Devs and GMs siggys are just fine... And as far as the screenshot rules, you mean that you cant have part of a screenshot in your siggy? Like if I wanted a picture of a Raven or Scorp in mine with my pretty face next to it, I cant do that???
Trey Azagthoth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2005.01.15 15:36:00 - [43] Hmm, why is it that everyone's siggys are screwed up now... yet the Moderators and Devs and GMs siggys are just fine... And as far as the screenshot rules, you mean that you cant have part of a screenshot in your siggy? Like if I wanted a picture of a Raven or Scorp in mine with my pretty face next to it, I cant do that???
Wrangler	Posted - 2005.01.15 23:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Trey Azagthoth Hmm, why is it that everyone's siggys are screwed up now... yet the Moderators and Devs and GMs siggys are just fine... And as far as the screenshot rules, you mean that you cant have part of a screenshot in your siggy? Like if I wanted a picture of a Raven or Scorp in mine with my pretty face next to it, I cant do that??? It's a conspiracy, we made it so our sisgs would work fine and everyone elses would be screwed up. Screenshots cant be used as a signature, but of course you can use part of a screenshot, provided it doesn't show a bug, in your signature. If you by "pretty face" means a picture of your avatar, then you can use it, if you want to use a real life picture, then no. Remember that the signature is about you and your role in EVE, nothing else. It's not supposed to show your idol in RL, or your char etc. With the new change in rules, making a signature is much more simple, so this thread will now be unstickied because there's no more use for it. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]

Wrangler	Posted - 2005.01.15 23:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Trey Azagthoth Hmm, why is it that everyone's siggys are screwed up now... yet the Moderators and Devs and GMs siggys are just fine... And as far as the screenshot rules, you mean that you cant have part of a screenshot in your siggy? Like if I wanted a picture of a Raven or Scorp in mine with my pretty face next to it, I cant do that??? It's a conspiracy, we made it so our sisgs would work fine and everyone elses would be screwed up. Screenshots cant be used as a signature, but of course you can use part of a screenshot, provided it doesn't show a bug, in your signature. If you by "pretty face" means a picture of your avatar, then you can use it, if you want to use a real life picture, then no. Remember that the signature is about you and your role in EVE, nothing else. It's not supposed to show your idol in RL, or your char etc. With the new change in rules, making a signature is much more simple, so this thread will now be unstickied because there's no more use for it. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Jo Mar	Posted - 2007.01.25 22:49:00 - [46] testing my signature pic null
Kharakan Amarr Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.25 22:54:00 - [47] ...why? WHY? WHY MUST YOU DEFILE THE INNOCENTS!? this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Brother Benthor FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.25 22:55:00 - [48] where is the glue!?!? WHO STOLE THE GLUE!? :P sticky -ACCEPTING new REQUESTS-

Deckard Bishop Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.26 00:41:00 - [49] clicky necro thread forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website!


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