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Elrca Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.20 15:48:00 - [31] Edited by: Elrca on 20/08/2008 15:48:27 As said depends on what the isk is doing.. But if you have a problem take it up with a director or CEO.... 15% is cheap depending what is down with it
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:01:00 - [32] Originally by: 666 666 the corp i am in with one of my characters just went from 5% to 15% and i personally am thinking this is a bit high for a corp that is basically mission running. One day we might go in low sec or 0.0 but that wont be for some time. Any thoughts / input are greatly appriciated. So have you even bothered to ask your corp why? It does not say very much about how your corp works or you working with your corp to ask a simple question as to why. No one here can answer your questions and tell you why because every corp has there own rules, taxes and goals. If you can't communicate with your corp leadership and ascertain why things are happening then you are either in the wrong corp or you missed a corp meeting somewhere.
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:16:00 - [33] Edited by: Lord Fitz on 20/08/2008 16:17:33 Most highsec corp tax's are 5-10%. Guess it depends on what you get and how much you like the corp as to if it's worth it. 15% on the base of it sounds higher than normal, but then there are corps with higher tax rates out there, usually in 0.0 though. Keep in mind that in most corps 1% isn't actually 1% of the players income, given that only bounties and mission rewards are taxed, not any trading income or bonuses or LP rewards etc.
ZW Dewitt	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:16:00 - [34] You could ask for Jr. Accountant role... doesn't do much other than let you view the corp wallet and transactions, so you could see for yourself how much isk is coming in and where it is ending up.
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:28:00 - [35] THis is what happened when i asked about the tax [15:57:34] me > why did we go from 5% to 15% tax ? [15:57:46] omna14yearoldkid > tax rate was to low [15:57:47] ceohusband > get in vent cov [15:57:57] omna14yearoldkid > now the corp is making money from our bounty [15:58:09] omna14yearoldkid > now the corp is making money all togeather lol [15:58:28] ceohusband > everyone agreed to the change [15:58:40] ceohusband > personally i dont care what the tax is [15:58:41] me > how can everyone agree i just found out about it. [15:58:42] omna14yearoldkid > yup [15:58:55] ceohusband > welll lol everyone else [15:59:19] me > i feel it is a bit overkill atm to be honest [16:00:12] ceohusband > nah youll see it isnt very much off your bounties, especially since we got everyone covered [16:00:49] me > while it might not seem much for the casual person...if i make 33mill a day from missions thats 1billion a month....150 mill a month adds up pretty fast [16:01:40] me > that is essentailly 2billion a year in taxes for someone like me [16:01:52] me > or 1.8b [16:01:55] ceohusband > its only off bounties, quint and claire had the idea and sam, tansa me and sam agreed oin the change [16:02:09] me > whats it being used for though ? [16:02:18] me > i heard it was off bounties and mission rewards [16:02:26] ceohusband > no just bounties [16:03:01] ceohusband > quint and claire will get in touch with you later about it [16:03:49] me > i hate to break it to u , but corp tax is applied to mission rewards, just not the bonuses [16:04:10] omna14yearoldkid > please....... [16:04:19] ceohusband > its only pennies tho in the long run compared to what youl make [16:04:57] me > please what ? [16:05:03] omna14yearoldkid > nothing... [16:05:09] ceohusband > lol [16:05:13] omna14yearoldkid > rofl [16:05:24] omna14yearoldkid > acctially something... [16:05:30] me > ? [16:05:37] omna14yearoldkid > please....... [16:05:40] omna14yearoldkid > shutup [16:05:52] omna14yearoldkid > because the corp tax is applied to everyone [16:05:58] omna14yearoldkid > not just you dude... [16:06:10] me > so i am not entitled to an opinion now ? [16:06:16] me > f$ck you [16:06:27] omna14yearoldkid > and the copr is making money off the tax to buy us new shiny ships XD [16:06:28] ceohusband > sure you are [16:06:42] omna14yearoldkid > and i never said u were not entitled to an opinion... [16:06:48] me > u insinuated [16:06:55] me > that i should just conform blah blah [16:06:59] omna14yearoldkid > cov ur awesome lol [16:07:25] me > bite me kid [16:07:33] omna14yearoldkid > lol [16:07:36] omna14yearoldkid > if you wish..... [16:08:51] omna14yearoldkid > lol im just trying to be nice... [16:09:30] me > thats now how it reads. [16:09:32] ceohusband > i wouldnt care if tax was 25%, but definately no higher [16:09:41] 17yearolddirector > nooooooo [16:09:43] 17yearolddirector > 15% [16:09:52] ceohusband > we are here to help you cov and all here [16:10:02] 17yearolddirector > no way im giving a quarter of my sht to corp [16:10:07] me > im a tight player, i hate money sinks [16:10:12] 17yearolddirector > 15% is good [16:10:33] me > 15% might seem good to you, and it is reasonable if u are in deep space, it is a bit overkill for a mission running corp [16:10:38] 17yearolddirector > well tough tbh thats corp tax will fund futre projects [16:11:07] 17yearolddirector > iv never seen 5% tax ever [16:11:09] me > its called taxation without representation... what project are u speaking of ? [16:11:21] 17yearolddirector > pos's corp insured hips [16:11:26] 17yearolddirector > ships [16:11:38] me > i just think u are putting the cart before the horse [16:11:46] 17yearolddirector > well tough [16:12:00] me > lol tough [16:12:03] omna14yearoldkid > yes but if we put the cart in front of the horse we can go up hills [16:12:35] 17yearolddirector > well al tell you right al refund youre tax if you tell me youre totals and money evry day but you can f&ck erver getting anything from corp ========more comin
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:29:00 - [36] [16:13:10] omna14yearoldkid > roflmao [16:13:24] me > im not hear to be bossed and told how it is by a 17 yo kid [16:13:39] omna14yearoldkid > or a 15 year old... [16:13:48] omna14yearoldkid > were just gonna leave u alone lol [16:13:56] ceohusband > we will not let anyone go broke [16:14:14] me > it is easy to pay a tax when your hand is in the bank [16:14:45] ceohusband > noones hand is going into the bank, we wanna grow that wallet [16:15:20] 17yearolddirector > ok anyway dude not trana be rude sorry man [16:15:28] omna14yearoldkid > same [16:15:42] omna14yearoldkid > im with sam.... [16:15:51] omna14yearoldkid > were not trying to be rude or anything... [16:17:41] 17yearolddirector > and fyi whats age got to do with anything theres like a 15 yr old dude leads one of the biggest alliance ingam and that tax was a unanimous director desccision [16:18:01] omna14yearoldkid > hehehe [16:18:05] omna14yearoldkid > hey sam [16:18:11] omna14yearoldkid > us teens rule lol [16:18:48] me > while age doesnt always represent maturity, it sometimes does. [16:19:13] me > if u did research u would find most high sec corps do 5-10% tax [16:19:17] me > u tripled it overnight [16:19:41] me > i dont expect anyone to provide me with ships ina corp unless it is in low sec ops [16:19:57] 17yearolddirector > well tbh i dont want to argue just stay of what ever you been taking [16:20:30] me > huh? I TRIED TO PROTECT IDENTIES AND EDIT THE PROFANITY. any thoughts ?
Matalino Gallente Ki Tech Industries	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:34:00 - [37] So instead of asking what the ISK is used for, you simply state that the tax rate is too high. Of course your going to get a defensive response. The remaining question is who is the "us" in "and the copr is making money off the tax to buy us new shiny ships XD." If that "us" doesn't include you, then find a new corp.
LetsDoThis	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:43:00 - [38] Does it actually cost money to run a highsec mission corp?
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:43:00 - [39] Yea dude you came at them with a tinfioil hat attitude and an early f$%$% you. With that attitude I would have told you to accept or leave. However if you asked in a more reasonable manner I would have said "sure hey this what we have planned. I am sorry you missed the corp meeting..." But you basically came off like a ****.
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:45:00 - [40] Originally by: LetsDoThis Does it actually cost money to run a highsec mission corp? It depends on what you are doing or what you have in your short term and long term goals. If they are sitting there rotating just PVE and no goals then no they are being greedy. But if they are making some sort of plans to do something you need the scratch.
Belatu Cadro Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:50:00 - [41] My corps tax is 9.5% plus whatever non named loot you can spare, and to be honest I'd be happy to pay 15%, but then again, we are a high sec based (currently) PVP corp, with ties to a large 0.0 alliance, if I need a frig, cruiser or destroyer, I grab one from the corp hangar, no questions asked, fittings and ammo same thing, skill books are freely available, if I need a more expensive ship I can buy it at cost sometimes as much as 20% less than market, and often for even much less, T2 ships and modules, we have a sister company making them and supplying to our members at cost, need isk, simply jump clone to our 0.0 base and do some ratting. The point is some High sec corps are worth 15% tax, others maybe not, only you can answer your own question.
Anndarra Winge	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:51:00 - [42] Originally by: 666 666 [16:13:10] any thoughts ? Get a new corps. You might have gone about it the wrong way in dealing with this (1st going to the forums then having a confrontational tone with your directors) but these guys didn't layout what they were doing with the isk. Just vague plans and back talk. My example: 10% tax in a highsec/lowsec/0.0 corps gets me: 1. Replacement of ship and gear lost on corps business/fights; 2. Ships at cost + free rigs; 3. Access and use of 5 POS in lowsec and 0.0; 4. Access to Alliance POS and outposts in lowsec and 0.0; 5. Free basic skill books; 6. Training in Fleet ops; 7. Training in PvP using corps ships and modules; 8. 50% off ammunition I don't get it in this game - corps need pilots, pilots don't need corps.
Aarin Wrath Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:53:00 - [43] Personally, I would leave the corp. Admittedly you could have had a better attitude when talking with them, but their attitude stunk as well. Why I would personally leave: -They kinda did a magic hand wave when they explained what the money was for. (future stuff .. ships ... pos ... uhh yeah) -They disrespected you when they should have addressed your concerns -They dident ask you if it was ok with you, but they did with everyone else. IMHO: Ditch em. Lot of other corps out there.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:54:00 - [44] 15% tax is nothing in great scheme of things my corp uns at 10% tax and its a strugle to afford everything we want/need.
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:55:00 - [45] Edited by: Concorduck on 20/08/2008 16:55:24 if i were CEO of your corp, you would have been kicked after the first profanity. and hope you get kicked anyway. one does not simply discuss about taxation. EDIT: TYPOS
Aarin Wrath Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Anndarra Winge 10% tax in a highsec/lowsec/0.0 corps gets me: 1. Replacement of ship and gear lost on corps business/fights; 2. Ships at cost + free rigs; 3. Access and use of 5 POS in lowsec and 0.0; 4. Access to Alliance POS and outposts in lowsec and 0.0; 5. Free basic skill books; 6. Training in Fleet ops; 7. Training in PvP using corps ships and modules; 8. 50% off ammunition I don't get it in this game - corps need pilots, pilots don't need corps. Damn! What corp is that? They recruiting?
Aarin Wrath Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:57:00 - [47] Originally by: Concorduck Edited by: Concorduck on 20/08/2008 16:55:24 if i were CEO of your corp, you would have been kicked after the first profanity. and hope you get kicked anyway. one does not simply discuss about taxation. EDIT: TYPOS Seriously? ... I hope you were kidding. I really do.
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 16:59:00 - [48] well if i was a member of a corp that you were ceo in and you booted someone for using profanity i would leave on my own will.
Cat Gilligan Caldari Blair Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:00:00 - [49] As others have said, it depends on what is being done with it, how large your corp is, and how much they are collecting. 15% sounds a bit high to me unless your corp is maintaining any POS's or other infrastructure, or are saving for a project, IF your corp is purely highsec and mission running. The only reason to have a POS in highsec is access to research slots for invention/BPO improvement, and such an operation SHOULD ultimately pay for itself or should be discontinued. Mostly though you need to go by feel. Are your directors and CEO running around in exotic fit ships whilst seemingly never doing any serious isk grinding themselves? Does your corp help members in need, or replace losses? Really it's up to your judgement. Given that you can solo mission run in highsec and don't need a corp to support that, you have a right to ask and answer to why you are giving away 15% of it?
Drykor Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:05:00 - [50] I'd have kicked you for your attitude alone. Then again I'm not running some carebear highsec corp with no real goals. I agree 15% is too much without offering anything, but you ruined it for yourself as well with your agression and your entire approach to this.
Way TightThigh	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:07:00 - [51] 666 GROW UP IF YOU DONT LIKE THE CORP YOU ARE IN THEN LEAVE AND STOP WHINING LIKE A 12 YEAR OLD.
Ryan Scouse'UK omen. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:11:00 - [52] Listen - mission runners stay in NPC corps you dont need to be in a corp to run level 4 missions in high sec or low sec.. anyone who crys about corp tax is either to much of a carebear - or not a team player.. unless of course ur a china raven alt on a dead end system ratting then we shall tax you *****s :)
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:12:00 - [53] lol sorry i am a bit too hard core for some of you. I like to cut through the BS and get to the point. sorry if you cannot handle things that are non sugar coated. i have an attitude / personality cause that is how i have learned to be in games. I come from more cutthroat games. maybe i should of kissed some rear before i started in the convo
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:15:00 - [54] Edited by: 666 666 on 20/08/2008 17:16:15 i choose to be in a corp for the social aspects . not for hand outs, or to be taxed so much that i must rely on the corp for stuff
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:16:00 - [55] Originally by: 666 666 lol sorry i am a bit too hard core for some of you. I like to cut through the BS and get to the point. sorry if you cannot handle things that are non sugar coated. i have an attitude / personality cause that is how i have learned to be in games. I come from more cutthroat games. maybe i should of kissed some rear before i started in the convo Hardcore PVE CAREBEAR!!!!
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:19:00 - [56] i never said hardcore pvp . i gotta start somewhere to build up a wallet
Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:23:00 - [57] Originally by: 666 666 well if i was a member of a corp that you were ceo in and you booted someone for using profanity i would leave on my own will. not a great loss, since you're arguing about a 15% tax in high sec
666 666	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:26:00 - [58] ya i mean shame on people for having an opinion and not liking having to pay such a high tax in high sec. maybe everyone should be like sheep and just pay whatever taxes
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:29:00 - [59] Originally by: 666 666 i never said hardcore pvp . i gotta start somewhere to build up a wallet Just a word of advice. You don't need to kiss ass but you will go farther if you are not a ****. I know corps KOS for less.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.20 17:30:00 - [60] Originally by: 666 666 ya i mean shame on people for having an opinion and not liking having to pay such a high tax in high sec. maybe everyone should be like sheep and just pay whatever taxes no one said you should ahve to pay it i you thought it was excessive then you always had the option o walking away and not moaning about it. A 15% tax amounts to very little compared to all the isk you gain but if its enough to freak you out then you obviousally should leave this corp.

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