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Selinate
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Posted - 2012.03.23 16:51:00 -
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FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread |

Naga Elohim
Golden Shellbacks Surely You're Joking
13
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Posted - 2012.03.23 16:56:00 -
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Aw come on!! You like mining don't cha? Who can resist the sound of your ore hold filling up with precious Azure Plagioclase!!!! |

Selissa Shadoe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.23 16:57:00 -
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OP, You're an idiot.
Next. |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 16:58:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. |

Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises
352
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:00:00 -
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I'm down for this. When i started eve i maxed out my hulk/orca skills *cringe*. i'd love to put that SP into combat
But... not going to happen for obvious reasons. And it is kinda silly idea. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:01:00 -
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Good idea. Because lets face it, mining was not designed for actual players to do, it was designed for bots. |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
180
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:01:00 -
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OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
Reasoning: see OP. |

Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis Dragehund
19
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:02:00 -
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OP : Anarchy Online is that way, Pew Pew and Missions for you and guess what? no mining The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
41
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:02:00 -
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Mining is an important part of the economy and provides juicy ganks. No. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Prince Kobol
267
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:02:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
Nothing more needs to be said
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Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:02:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
Reasoning: see OP.
Shitposting leads to posts like this.
Try to troll harder. |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
123
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:03:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. ...Why is Selinate's opinion less valid because they choose to post it using a character in an NPC corporation? That's something I've never understood about this whole "post with your main" thing... Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:03:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Mining is an important part of the economy and provides juicy ganks. No.
Really? What part of the economy is it important to?
NOTHING? EVERYTHING THAT IS DONE IN MINING CAN BE DONE WITH MISSIONS?!?!?!?
Oh wow, guess it's not that important after all. |

Selissa Shadoe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:04:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning.
I'll post with who I want to, thanks, doesn't change the fact that you're talking out of your ass if you think that removing mining is going to work at all either economically or make players that do mine AFK actually want to keep playing. Therefore, you're an idiot with an ill-thought-out idea.
There, I showed my working this time. Happy now? |

RaTTuS
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
181
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:05:00 -
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where will your minerals for ships come from? http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:05:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. I'll post with who I want to, thanks, doesn't change the fact that you're talking out of your ass if you think that removing mining is going to work at all either economically or make players that do mine AFK actually want to keep playing. Therefore, you're an idiot with an ill-thought-out idea. There, I showed my working this time. Happy now?
The majority of minerals come from reprocessed mission loot and drone poo. Just saying. |

Prince Kobol
267
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:06:00 -
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Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
Let me very briefly expand on why your an idiot
Hulkaggeddon gone.
The Goons Ice Interdiction Gone
A Large part of Industry Gone
Also if CCP do change drone then the only source of minerals becomes via missions
The price of ship would go through the roof and you would be the first to start crying when that happens. |

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:08:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread Let me very briefly expand on why your an idiot Hulkaggeddon gone. The Goons Ice Interdiction Gone
Fixed. |

Selissa Shadoe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:08:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. I'll post with who I want to, thanks, doesn't change the fact that you're talking out of your ass if you think that removing mining is going to work at all either economically or make players that do mine AFK actually want to keep playing. Therefore, you're an idiot with an ill-thought-out idea. There, I showed my working this time. Happy now? The majority of minerals come from reprocessed mission loot and drone poo. Just saying.
Are you really that naive or just trolling?  |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:09:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. I'll post with who I want to, thanks, doesn't change the fact that you're talking out of your ass if you think that removing mining is going to work at all either economically or make players that do mine AFK actually want to keep playing. Therefore, you're an idiot with an ill-thought-out idea. There, I showed my working this time. Happy now?
It's not important to the economy. Everything that is done through mining can be done in missions. You're an idiot and your post isn't well thought out.
Post with your main, troll. |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
4
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:10:00 -
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Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:10:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread Let me very briefly expand on why your an idiot Hulkaggeddon gone. The Goons Ice Interdiction Gone A Large part of Industry Gone Also if CCP do change drone then the only source of minerals becomes via missions The price of ship would go through the roof and you would be the first to start crying when that happens.
Hulkageddon's whole purpose is to END THE AFK MINING IN HIGH SEC.
This will do it permanently.
What part of this don't you understand?
|

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:11:00 -
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Selissa Shadoe wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. I'll post with who I want to, thanks, doesn't change the fact that you're talking out of your ass if you think that removing mining is going to work at all either economically or make players that do mine AFK actually want to keep playing. Therefore, you're an idiot with an ill-thought-out idea. There, I showed my working this time. Happy now? The majority of minerals come from reprocessed mission loot and drone poo. Just saying. Are you really that naive or just trolling? 
Normally, just trolling. But tis true, most minerals on the market have come from reprocessed mission loot or drone poo. Miners who think they are the backbone of the economy just want to feel good, they want to think that they are helping the playerbase as a whole by wasting their time on a low source of income/ |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:11:00 -
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Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic
I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. |

Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
0
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:13:00 -
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My corp is full of carebears that pretty much do nothing but mine.
They also enjoy it.
No, I can't explain why because I don't understand it either.
The simple point being, some people like mining just as much as you like to blow them up. Missions can get tedious after a while and sometimes people want to sit back, relax and make some isk while watching a movie. |

Prince Kobol
267
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:15:00 -
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Hulkaggeddon has **** all to do with bots lol
You really are a ******
Hulkaggeddon is a fantastic event designed to do 1 thing and that is make those who produce mining barges and exhumer isk, lots of isk.... lots and lots and lots of isk as well as tears :)
and again.. CCP have already talked about change drone poo to BOUNTIES only
****** |

Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:15:00 -
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Starcaller Dredg wrote:My corp is full of carebears that pretty much do nothing but mine.
They also enjoy it.
No, I can't explain why because I don't understand it either.
The simple point being, some people like mining just as much as you like to blow them up. Missions can get tedious after a while and sometimes people want to sit back, relax and make some isk while watching a movie.
But if you remove mining, then players will find other ways to make isk. Ways which require some form of cranial activity. And the vegetables who are genuinely only capable of mining will quit, thus improving the average IQ of the playerbase greatly. |

Gyozshil154
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:15:00 -
[28] - Quote
Oh look. Another case of "Quit liking what I don't like!".
Well, I don't like doing missions. I find them even more boring and repetitive than mining, please remove them CCP. |

Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
93
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:15:00 -
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ok since this is a troll i dont know why i bother but..
i like to mine.. no not afk mine. but actually MINE! at the frakkin keyboard mine.
why are you so bothered if others enjoy the game in a way you do not?
think mining is boring.. dont do it..
let those of us that actually enjoy mining do it. shesh.
i think it is nice and relaxing, mining away, enjoy a cold drink.. relax after a hectic day of work |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:16:00 -
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Gyozshil154 wrote:Oh look. Another case of "Quit liking what I don't like!".
Well, I don't like doing missions. I find them even more boring and repetitive than mining, please remove them CCP.
I agree, seed all minerals on the market so we just don't have to bother with these repetitive, boring tasks in Eve. |

coolzero
The Replicators Northern Associates.
18
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:18:00 -
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i like mining.....keep your bright ideas to yourself.
if you dont like it, dont do it. |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
180
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:18:00 -
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Gathered enough attention for yourself yet?
Do you feel special? |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:19:00 -
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Linda Shadowborn wrote:ok since this is a troll i dont know why i bother but..
i like to mine.. no not afk mine. but actually MINE! at the frakkin keyboard mine.
why are you so bothered if others enjoy the game in a way you do not?
think mining is boring.. dont do it..
let those of us that actually enjoy mining do it. shesh.
i think it is nice and relaxing, mining away, enjoy a cold drink.. relax after a hectic day of work
You do not sit at a keyboard and watch a laser cycle. You are lying. No one can find watching a download bar finish over 5 minutes over and over again fun, just like they can't find watching a laser cycle fun. |

Gyozshil154
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:19:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Gyozshil154 wrote:Oh look. Another case of "Quit liking what I don't like!".
Well, I don't like doing missions. I find them even more boring and repetitive than mining, please remove them CCP. I agree, seed all minerals on the market so we just don't have to bother with these repetitive, boring tasks in Eve.
Also I hear manufacturing can be pretty repetitive. And when everything is set up it's uninvolving. Might as well seed all the produced items. |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:20:00 -
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Gyozshil154 wrote:Selinate wrote:Gyozshil154 wrote:Oh look. Another case of "Quit liking what I don't like!".
Well, I don't like doing missions. I find them even more boring and repetitive than mining, please remove them CCP. I agree, seed all minerals on the market so we just don't have to bother with these repetitive, boring tasks in Eve. Also I hear manufacturing can be pretty repetitive. And when everything is set up it's uninvolving. Might as well seed all the produced items.
THIS MAN UNDERSTANDS HOW IT SHOULD BE. |

BearJews
Android Arms And Industrial Corporation
28
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:21:00 -
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lol |

Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
94
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:25:00 -
[37] - Quote
Selinate wrote:
You do not sit at a keyboard and watch a laser cycle. You are lying. No one can find watching a download bar finish over 5 minutes over and over again fun, just like they can't find watching a laser cycle fun.
ahh look at the troll go..
of course i can find it fun, just because you dont doesnt mean all dont.. but im done feeding the troll
|

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:27:00 -
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Ok, I'm done, favorite TV show came on. This was fun though. |

Borun Tal
Border Zone Combat
81
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:31:00 -
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Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
I concur whole-heartedly (sp?). In conjunction with that I'd like to see all gankers perma-banned based on IP subnet and credit device used to pay, and anyone with -10 security status CONCORD'd upon entry into high sec. After all, they ARE the most villainous, wretched scum in the Eve universe, aren't they? |

Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
184
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:31:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Hulkageddon's whole purpose is to END THE AFK MINING IN HIGH SEC. LMFAO! |

Borun Tal
Border Zone Combat
81
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:33:00 -
[41] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Ok, I'm done, favorite TV show came on. This was fun though.
Found the source of the problem. Get outside, feel the sunshine, and get a freakin' like. |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
179
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:33:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mining roids is a very sci-fi thing and featured in countless sci-fi novels. Pity that in what is the ultimate sci-fi game people get so mad about it that they emorage with veins throbbing and eyes bulging. If you hate it so much, don't mine. To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:41:00 -
[43] - Quote
CCP won't take this serious so it's forum fluff.
Adding to the fluff, all the things that made mining an effort got nuked out of the game because they were too profitable and the null bears wanted all the cookies. Mining isn't an issue. Bots are. They were ignored at first because when EVE had 10K login in it was in issue to expect half of those people to be bong shotting rocks. For any number of reasons people in numbers will mine ATK now.
I'd be quite content to go to a secluded .5 sec with no outpost, set up a POS and mine my ores, move them to my POS, ship them out to be refined and.. well, play EVE. I can't make it profit though and between griefers pretending they hate botting, targeting anything in a belt and bots, I can't be bothered.
Maybe some day you will find my POS in that secluded .5 and me in a Hulk and a Bestower mining away. Say something in local, I will reply. We can have a little chat and then you can go find a bot to kill. |

Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:44:00 -
[44] - Quote
Mining is working as intended.
Aside from the fact that I am a pro-miner, enjoy it and yes that comes from a Goon....
...it's an entry level way to make ISK in the game
...it's fun to do in groups for corporate ISK making
...it has a risk / reward incentive that will be balanced when the drone poo nerf comes in
...mining creates PVP opportunities in both null sec and empire
In a nutshell... -1 |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:46:00 -
[45] - Quote
Borun Tal wrote:Selinate wrote:Ok, I'm done, favorite TV show came on. This was fun though. Found the source of the problem. Get outside, feel the sunshine, and get a freakin' like.
I already got one, just look back at the OP. |

Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:47:00 -
[46] - Quote
Posting to confirm the OP is a complete tool.
EVERYONE has a miner inside them, hidden away. For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
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Nimbus Cloud Liebrum
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:51:00 -
[47] - Quote
i love mining Peaceful Explorer |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
470
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Posted - 2012.03.23 17:51:00 -
[48] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning.
In CCP's eyes, we're all irrelevant, alt and mains alike. shiptoastin' liek a baws |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
4
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game.
Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality.
You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. |

Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:27:00 -
[50] - Quote
As much as I hate mining, it needs to be improved rather than removed.
Mining is too critical to the economy to be completely removed. |

Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:29:00 -
[51] - Quote
Mining has been part of the gameplay since Elite day 1 - I don't think they'll touch this... |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
241
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
My trolldar went off the scale when I saw this thread and the OP. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

Selinate
685
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:32:00 -
[53] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser.
Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging.
I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more? |

Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
188
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:34:00 -
[54] - Quote
I like mining.
I like many other things about EvE too, though.
I wish mining was more exciting, sometimes, but other times there is serene relaxation to be had just kicking back and letting the lasers hum, kicking out the minng drones, and just soaking up rocks (and beer).
Don't you guys have crazy stressful jobs you need to relax to recover from too? EvE is ust about perfect for that very thing. |

Hexxx
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:35:00 -
[55] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
Noobs...
Missions provide variable minerals in variable quantities resulting in highly inefficient resource gathering. Further, the increase in the market activity to source large volumes of minerals (if mining didn't exist) would spike the velocity of money and send inflation to rates that are unsustainable.
You're proposing to destabilize one of the most distinguishing things about EVE; it's economy.  |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
241
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Posted - 2012.03.23 18:36:00 -
[56] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging. I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more?
I don't know about him, but it sure makes me give you a 10/10 for trolling while acting like you actually believe what you said. You must have been a politician in a prior life somewhere.
Addendum:
No, this is not my alt. This is my main as none of my characters are in player corps at the moment. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
99
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 18:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Esan Vartesa wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
Reasoning: see OP. Shitposting leads to posts like this. Try to troll harder.
Well if you start a thread with a **** post, what do you expect? |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 18:51:00 -
[58] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging. I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more?
Listen up, idiot, I am not raging. I am disgusted at idiots who try to change things to THEIR way without thinking about others because they are too damn selfish! I am sick of the selfish asshats in this world. BUT, even if I was raging, that does not make a point invalid. You are just trying to say that I am raging so you don't have to come up with any kind of intellectual counterpoint cause YOU HAVE NONE! You are a selfish, pathetic, loossseeerrr! And no, playing WoW does not make me hate you more. I played WoW too. But since you can't seem to comprehend the point I was making (or, more likely, choose not to so you can use an unsubstantiated claim to make a worthless point on your part) let me clarify. WoW is for simpletons that want everything handed to them. Sounds more like your type of game, since that is what you are trying to make Eve. WoW was 'boring' because everything is handed to you and now you wanna make Eve that way also. Again.. idiot! |

Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
139
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 18:52:00 -
[59] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning.
The reason is because you're an idiot. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 18:58:00 -
[60] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging. I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more? Listen up, idiot, I am not raging. I am disgusted at idiots who try to change things to THEIR way without thinking about others because they are too damn selfish! I am sick of the selfish asshats in this world. BUT, even if I was raging, that does not make a point invalid. You are just trying to say that I am raging so you don't have to come up with any kind of intellectual counterpoint cause YOU HAVE NONE! You are a selfish, pathetic, loossseeerrr! And no, playing WoW does not make me hate you more. I played WoW too. But since you can't seem to comprehend the point I was making (or, more likely, choose not to so you can use an unsubstantiated claim to make a worthless point on your part) let me clarify. WoW is for simpletons that want everything handed to them. Sounds more like your type of game, since that is what you are trying to make Eve. WoW was 'boring' because everything is handed to you and now you wanna make Eve that way also. Again.. idiot!
LMAO more rage. Thanks for that. Your point is invalid because you're an idiot just for getting this mad over a forum thread. |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 19:00:00 -
[61] - Quote
Miss Whippy wrote:Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. The reason is because you're an idiot.
No, the reason that you can't come up with a better reason is because you are an idiot.
Too deep for you to understand? maybe because you're an idiot. |

Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 19:00:00 -
[62] - Quote
Yes CCP PLEASE just throw out any part of gameplay I'm personally not interested in. Well lets face it I do not play MASSIVE Multiplayer games because there is a Massive amount of different things to do, no I only like doing the same exact thing over and over and over again just like a console non massive multiplayer game.
The ONLY reason I like to play MMO's is because I get to pay monthly to play. Oh whats that I can pay a single monthly fee for console multiplayer and play all games that only allow you to do the exact same thing over and over on different maps... See you later EVE my two brain cells came together and formed a great idea! |

Gerald Taric
Adamantium Industry
42
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 19:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
I do not understand, what kind of problem the OP has.
If she does not like mining, she's not forced to do mining. She might get her minerals from doing missions. Problem solved. There's no need for removing a feature from the game, if someone does not like it.
Or may i say "I don't like PvP, carebears are hating it. Remove it!" - no. Someone likes it, someone does it.
Same way is mining, Some hate it, some like it. Some do it.
Mining solo is also boring for me, yes. Mining together with corp mates, having a nice chatter on Teamspeak makes it okay even for those, wo does not like it in general.
What was an often used sentence here? ... yes ... "You're doing it wrong!" 
|

Nimbus Cloud Liebrum
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 19:39:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ana Vyr wrote:I like mining.
I like many other things about EvE too, though.
I wish mining was more exciting, sometimes, but other times there is serene relaxation to be had just sitting back and letting the lasers hum, kicking out the mining drones, and just soaking up rocks (and beer).
Don't you guys have crazy stressful jobs you need to relax to recover from too? Mining in EvE is just about perfect for that very thing.
exactly Peaceful Explorer |

Diva Ex Machina
Son's of The Hammer The Methodical Alliance
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 19:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Gerald Taric wrote:I do not understand, what kind of problem the OP has.
Clue: OP is trolling. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
416
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:19:00 -
[66] - Quote
3/10 cause people bite obvious troll.
|

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Not everyone plays the game the way YOU think it should be played. I mine BECAUSE I can do other things at the same time. I LIKE being able to further myself in the game and still be able to deal with RL things, as needed. So, stfu and play YOUR game and quit trying to change it for everyone else. How damn selfish are you?!! Pathetic I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging. I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more? Listen up, idiot, I am not raging. I am disgusted at idiots who try to change things to THEIR way without thinking about others because they are too damn selfish! I am sick of the selfish asshats in this world. BUT, even if I was raging, that does not make a point invalid. You are just trying to say that I am raging so you don't have to come up with any kind of intellectual counterpoint cause YOU HAVE NONE! You are a selfish, pathetic, loossseeerrr! And no, playing WoW does not make me hate you more. I played WoW too. But since you can't seem to comprehend the point I was making (or, more likely, choose not to so you can use an unsubstantiated claim to make a worthless point on your part) let me clarify. WoW is for simpletons that want everything handed to them. Sounds more like your type of game, since that is what you are trying to make Eve. WoW was 'boring' because everything is handed to you and now you wanna make Eve that way also. Again.. idiot!
LMAO more rage. Thanks for that. Your point is invalid because you're an idiot just for getting this mad over a forum thread.[/quote] |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:I'm sorry, are you playing a game or waiting for a code to finish executing? I'm pretty sure it's just the latter. Ergo, your point is invalid because you're not playing a game. Seriously? Are you THAT stupid. If you are looking at it that way, EVERY 'game' is just 'waiting for a code to finish executing (oh, and it would be phrased 'waiting for code to finish executing'). And the mining just gets me to where I can make stuff when I DO have more time to play the game. My point is not invalid, you are just too stupid to understand. Stupidity does not negate reality. You just don't want to have to work for your PvP, or whatever. Go play WoW, loser. Your point is still invalid because now you've started raging. I've played WoW. Got boring after level 80 so I quit. Does that make you hate me more? Listen up, idiot, I am not raging. I am disgusted at idiots who try to change things to THEIR way without thinking about others because they are too damn selfish! I am sick of the selfish asshats in this world. BUT, even if I was raging, that does not make a point invalid. You are just trying to say that I am raging so you don't have to come up with any kind of intellectual counterpoint cause YOU HAVE NONE! You are a selfish, pathetic, loossseeerrr! And no, playing WoW does not make me hate you more. I played WoW too. But since you can't seem to comprehend the point I was making (or, more likely, choose not to so you can use an unsubstantiated claim to make a worthless point on your part) let me clarify. WoW is for simpletons that want everything handed to them. Sounds more like your type of game, since that is what you are trying to make Eve. WoW was 'boring' because everything is handed to you and now you wanna make Eve that way also. Again.. idiot! LMAO more rage. Thanks for that. Your point is invalid because you're an idiot just for getting this mad over a forum thread.
A point is never invalid because of the way it is delievered. But I don't expect your extremely low intellect to understand that. Let's see if you can even attempt to comprehend this, tho. You call me an 'idiot' for getting this 'mad' over a forum thread. IF I am mad at ANYTHING, it is being mad at having to constantly deal with stupid people (such as yourself) that always want to infringe on others' liberties, that want to change things to their way, and ONLY their way, even if it has nothing to do with them, just because they are selfish pricks.
If *I* am the 'idiot', yet, I keep making valid points and you keep spewing diarrhea, what does that make you?
How ******* egotistical do you have to be to think that I would get as 'mad' or 'raged' as you seem to think I am over something as insignificant as a forum post from a moron that can't even prop up their position with any kind of intellectual point? Self-centered much? Of course you are. Your whole post is about what you want. |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:41:00 -
[69] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:
A point is never invalid because of the way it is delievered. But I don't expect your extremely low intellect to understand that. Let's see if you can even attempt to comprehend this, tho. You call me an 'idiot' for getting this 'mad' over a forum thread. IF I am mad at ANYTHING, it is being mad at having to constantly deal with stupid people (such as yourself) that always want to infringe on others' liberties, that want to change things to their way, and ONLY their way, even if it has nothing to do with them, just because they are selfish pricks.
If *I* am the 'idiot', yet, I keep making valid points and you keep spewing diarrhea, what does that make you?
How ******* egotistical do you have to be to think that I would get as 'mad' or 'raged' as you seem to think I am over something as insignificant as a forum post from a moron that can't even prop up their position with any kind of intellectual point? Self-centered much? Of course you are. Your whole post is about what you want.
LMFAO he asks me how do I think he was get as mad and raged as he is and yet is proving my point in his own mad and raging paragraph.
Golden.
Your point is still invalid. |

Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:46:00 -
[70] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already.I dont like mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I assume the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle, and dont in fact run large ops with mates in TS for a few hours once a week and have a laugh
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals because unlike AFK mining which I do not enjoy, I like AFK missioning and sell my minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors, and therefore remove another aspect of the game for other people who may enjoy it and just do mission ice, which I might like
/thread
fixed
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Revajin
15 Minute Outliers Novus Dominatum
38
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:51:00 -
[71] - Quote
ITT: Butthurt mission runner is mad over something that doesn't matter. |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc
75
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:55:00 -
[72] - Quote
OP is stupid lol ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Kai Tel
State War Academy Caldari State
19
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 20:55:00 -
[73] - Quote
I hate to see any job in EVE dry up. It's a sandbox and the more opportunities available the better. IGÇÖd prefer they found some way to make mining less AFK friendly, less grind intensive, and less GÇ£watch paint dryingGÇ¥ dull. ThatGÇÖs true for many aspects of the game in that the DEVs are focused so hard on making EVE feel real in their designs that theyGÇÖve forgotten why people play ( I don't mean that harshly.) |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
43
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:01:00 -
[74] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
So if I don't like a particular part of eve, CCP should just get rid of it. I hear a lot of pilots hate blob warfare so get rid of it? Manufacturing is sort of a pain in the ass, get rid of it. PI is a waste of graphics, get rid of it. We could go on forever.
The inability of certain people to understand why other's may like a certain form of gameplay does not invalidate that gameplay. These anti-mining posts seemingly always posted by non miners are old, childish and pathetic. If you don't like mining, don't do it. There are many many things in eve which suck on a daily basis. PVE can suck. A lot of PVP sucks. A lot of mining sucks. It is a game that oddly enough is greater than it's parts. How about being a bit more constructive and figuring out if 1. mining needs fixing and 2. ways to fix it that keep the sand box a dynamic ecosystem. |

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
369
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:04:00 -
[75] - Quote
Like it or not, mining is a vital part of space civilization. You don't do scifi without some type of asteroid mining.
Fly Safe, Die Hard
|

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:
A point is never invalid because of the way it is delievered. But I don't expect your extremely low intellect to understand that. Let's see if you can even attempt to comprehend this, tho. You call me an 'idiot' for getting this 'mad' over a forum thread. IF I am mad at ANYTHING, it is being mad at having to constantly deal with stupid people (such as yourself) that always want to infringe on others' liberties, that want to change things to their way, and ONLY their way, even if it has nothing to do with them, just because they are selfish pricks.
If *I* am the 'idiot', yet, I keep making valid points and you keep spewing diarrhea, what does that make you?
How ******* egotistical do you have to be to think that I would get as 'mad' or 'raged' as you seem to think I am over something as insignificant as a forum post from a moron that can't even prop up their position with any kind of intellectual point? Self-centered much? Of course you are. Your whole post is about what you want.
LMFAO he asks me how do I think he was get as mad and raged as he is and yet is proving my point in his own mad and raging paragraph. Golden. Your point is still invalid.
LOL, who are you talking to when you say 'he asks me'? Are you trying to get some public opinion behind your trolling? LOL, that's rich.
So, I was right.. again. You didn't even try to comprehend the point I was making, you just trolled. How sad. But, it is expected cause you have no point. Saying 'Your point is invalid' because you think I am 'raging' (a term that you are using quite liberally.. again, sad) is not a counterpoint to any debate.
I know english is not a trolls first language, but you really should work on that. It sucks.
|

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:
A point is never invalid because of the way it is delievered. But I don't expect your extremely low intellect to understand that. Let's see if you can even attempt to comprehend this, tho. You call me an 'idiot' for getting this 'mad' over a forum thread. IF I am mad at ANYTHING, it is being mad at having to constantly deal with stupid people (such as yourself) that always want to infringe on others' liberties, that want to change things to their way, and ONLY their way, even if it has nothing to do with them, just because they are selfish pricks.
If *I* am the 'idiot', yet, I keep making valid points and you keep spewing diarrhea, what does that make you?
How ******* egotistical do you have to be to think that I would get as 'mad' or 'raged' as you seem to think I am over something as insignificant as a forum post from a moron that can't even prop up their position with any kind of intellectual point? Self-centered much? Of course you are. Your whole post is about what you want.
LMFAO he asks me how do I think he was get as mad and raged as he is and yet is proving my point in his own mad and raging paragraph. Golden. Your point is still invalid. LOL, who are you talking to when you say 'he asks me'? Are you trying to get some public opinion behind your trolling? LOL, that's rich. So, I was right.. again. You didn't even try to comprehend the point I was making, you just trolled. How sad. But, it is expected cause you have no point. Saying 'Your point is invalid' because you think I am 'raging' (a term that you are using quite liberally.. again, sad) is not a counterpoint to any debate. I know english is not a trolls first language, but you really should work on that. It sucks.
Your raging makes me hard. Moar please. |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
10
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:
A point is never invalid because of the way it is delievered. But I don't expect your extremely low intellect to understand that. Let's see if you can even attempt to comprehend this, tho. You call me an 'idiot' for getting this 'mad' over a forum thread. IF I am mad at ANYTHING, it is being mad at having to constantly deal with stupid people (such as yourself) that always want to infringe on others' liberties, that want to change things to their way, and ONLY their way, even if it has nothing to do with them, just because they are selfish pricks.
If *I* am the 'idiot', yet, I keep making valid points and you keep spewing diarrhea, what does that make you?
How ******* egotistical do you have to be to think that I would get as 'mad' or 'raged' as you seem to think I am over something as insignificant as a forum post from a moron that can't even prop up their position with any kind of intellectual point? Self-centered much? Of course you are. Your whole post is about what you want.
LMFAO he asks me how do I think he was get as mad and raged as he is and yet is proving my point in his own mad and raging paragraph. Golden. Your point is still invalid. LOL, who are you talking to when you say 'he asks me'? Are you trying to get some public opinion behind your trolling? LOL, that's rich. So, I was right.. again. You didn't even try to comprehend the point I was making, you just trolled. How sad. But, it is expected cause you have no point. Saying 'Your point is invalid' because you think I am 'raging' (a term that you are using quite liberally.. again, sad) is not a counterpoint to any debate. I know english is not a trolls first language, but you really should work on that. It sucks. Your raging makes me hard. Moar please.
Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha. |

Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
6
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:26:00 -
[79] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
OP has a point if you have attention deficit disorder which means you should be playing FPS games.
Mining while low intensity is the driver of eve, its the oil, the basis of everything and its in players hands so dynamic to forces such as ganks and war dec denials.
OP point sadly displays limited vision and lack of understanding, we used to have trit at 3 isk because it was seeded by CCP (shuttle reprocessing days) now its much more fun, it has risk reward (to a degree).
OP sadly doesn-¦t get the real depth of eve
(did somebodies bots get banned?) |

Keen Fallsword
Billionaires Club BLACK-MARK
42
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:30:00 -
[80] - Quote
Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
And you are ? 1/10 Parents didnt loves you when you was a Child ? |

Shang Tsungin
Shirai Ryu
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 21:52:00 -
[81] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
Removing mining itself wouldn't actually help my friend. However I do find it boring too and not as profitable as you would expect it to be after all that skilling for it solo wise. It sure does require you some eve time, hell at times I'd even claim it takes an entire work shift on your own for days in a row if you wanna get some isk outta it by yourself.
As I'm not very creative when it comes to this game it's design, I wouldn't really know what to do or add to make mining just that more interesting as a soloist. It has it's charms when you're out there together with a big mining fleet and all working towards the same objective, to me it simply adds another sense of teamwork right there. That is if you're working towards the same goals and the pilots you're running it with are for the team. |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 22:26:00 -
[82] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote: Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.

You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place. |

Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
145
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 22:44:00 -
[83] - Quote
Nimbus Cloud Liebrum wrote:i love mining I love you "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" Enter a Heroic Era Today |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
11
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 23:07:00 -
[84] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote: Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.
 You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place.
You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you!
Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type.
Again.. thank you! |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 23:33:00 -
[85] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote: Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.
 You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place. You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you! Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type. Again.. thank you!
This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this 
You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say. |

sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
171
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 23:43:00 -
[86] - Quote
I like mining. Not trolling at all even though people will think I am. Ask a corpie of mine, I actually enjoy sitting their, listening to some Terry Pratchett and multi box mining for a couple hours. I can't actually AFK or I will **** over my cycle times.
I don't do it as often as I use to cause Market pvp earns way way more money. However every now and then, undocking the mining fleet and kicking back to some of Terry is still a nice relaxing time in eve. Keeps me grounded after epic pvp fights knowing I paid for it by mining for abit.
Until I sell some units and like make triple but you get the idea. Also mining is becoming an actual profitable thing now. Can't wait for Drone poo removal and every drake pilot whines about the 60m Drake. Yay for mining. |

Zag'mar Jurkar
Z.E.N
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 23:45:00 -
[87] - Quote
Thanks for the entertainment you provided, OP. |

Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
241
|
Posted - 2012.03.23 23:58:00 -
[88] - Quote
Oh dear, the trolling continues. Please, stop feeding the troll. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |

Kazini Jax
Starlight Operations Starlight Network
12
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 00:05:00 -
[89] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote: Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.
 You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place. You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you! Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type. Again.. thank you! This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this  You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say.
To the Eve PUBLIC you are known as Selinate. To the Eve PUBLIC you are making yourself look like a fool troll. Just because you choose to give 'public' a different interpretation than what I mean makes it no less true. But, my work day is done (that's something adults do.. you'll understand later, when you grow up) which means I got far, far more important things to do now, than play with you.
Thanks for letting me vent the stresses I am dealing with in RL on someone as insignificant as you for a day. It was.. useful. In more ways than you will ever know.
Good luck in life... you will need it....... |

Selinate
687
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 00:09:00 -
[90] - Quote
Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote:Selinate wrote:Kazini Jax wrote: Awww, you have no girlfriend.. or boyfriend, in this case. Too bad, so sad. And still no point. Man, it must really suck to be you with no life but forum trolling and TV. Mommy won't let you go out and play? Maybe in another 5 years, when you hit 40, she will letcha.
 You're still so mad about this. It's so cute. It's like a 14 year old kid who thinks he just won the argument when his argument was invalid in the first place. You have a real hard time with reality. Just because you are pathetic, and I state how and why you are pathetic, does not make me 'mad'. It just makes you a pathetic human being. Nothing else. You just want to pretend I am mad so you can feel some kind of success, but, you really haven't been successful at anything except proving what an idiot you are. I have zero problem with continuing to point that out.. especially if you are going to help me with every comment you make. Thank you! Please. Keep going! Idiots need to be pointed out and publicly humiliated and you are helping me point out the fool you are with every word you type. Again.. thank you! This is the internet. Selinate is not my real name. There's nothing public about this  You're mad because you're still posting mad-rage responses to me. Care to keep going? This is fun, I have to say. To the Eve PUBLIC you are known as Selinate. To the Eve PUBLIC you are making yourself look like a fool troll. Just because you choose to give 'public' a different interpretation than what I mean makes it no less true. But, my work day is done (that's something adults do.. you'll understand later, when you grow up) which means I got far, far more important things to do now, than play with you. Thanks for letting me vent the stresses I am dealing with in RL on someone as insignificant as you for a day. It was.. useful. In more ways than you will ever know. Good luck in life... you will need it.......
I'm sure the button pushing job you do over at Initech while searching for your red stapler is OH so difficult and important.
Also, it's still not public. I can just buy another character and POOF, I am no longer Selinate.
Your rage is so comforting. |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
276
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 00:43:00 -
[91] - Quote
Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. /thread.
Damn nature, you scary! |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
107
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 00:48:00 -
[92] - Quote
Yep. The player base hates all miners, miners hate other miners, and miners hate how mining is done. Just end it already! |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
276
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 00:56:00 -
[93] - Quote
After reading through this thread, the OP's answer to every counter opinion to their own is "Your point is invalid". You realize just stating that doesn't make it true?
Reprocessed mission loot contributes most of the minerals to eve...Are you high? If you just start seeding everything willy nilly, you're simply destroying the sandbox. If people want to mine, let them mine, why is it any concern of yours? Does them mining interfere with your game play in anyway? Do you realise how much your golem/CNR/shittymissionrunningship would cost if it wasn't for mining?
I don't like mission running, I don't like industry, I don't like hisec and I'm not a massive fan of wormholes, so we should just scrap them all, because that is my personal opinion and apparently that's all that matters on this multiplayer game.
Edit: I agree with basically everyone in this thread, that is, when they call you an idiot, because you really are. Damn nature, you scary! |

Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.03.24 01:22:00 -
[94] - Quote
hey OP, go play a sandbox that seeds everything on the market and player have only 2 things to do in the game, you go PVP or you blow up npc all day, not so much of a sandbox it seems to me.
Why did you not show your corp/alliance in your profile and ask ppl to post with their main? this is my main and I mine because npc corp don't charge tax for whatever I do with my rocks? unlike a good percentage of greedy player corp that wants to tax you and get you to donate certain portions of what you rightfully earn so they can pay their 0.0 rent.
you are mad because your mission loot gets nerfed and it doesn't melt to as much minerals as the miners? sour much? at least CCP reduced the volume metal scrapes occupy eh?
you just sound like "oooh, the miners are earning too much compared to me for the same efforts put in, I'm jelly!"
Besides, Chribba would probably be very sad if there are no more rocks in the empty space for him to ... devour... |

Selinate
688
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 02:59:00 -
[95] - Quote
DelBoy Trades wrote:After reading through this thread, the OP's answer to every counter opinion to their own is "Your point is invalid". You realize just stating that doesn't make it true?
Reprocessed mission loot contributes most of the minerals to eve...Are you high? If you just start seeding everything willy nilly, you're simply destroying the sandbox. If people want to mine, let them mine, why is it any concern of yours? Does them mining interfere with your game play in anyway? Do you realise how much your golem/CNR/shittymissionrunningship would cost if it wasn't for mining?
I don't like mission running, I don't like industry, I don't like hisec and I'm not a massive fan of wormholes, so we should just scrap them all, because that is my personal opinion and apparently that's all that matters on this multiplayer game.
Edit: I agree with basically everyone in this thread, that is, when they call you an idiot, because you really are.
Your point is invalid because you have no reasoning. |

Selinate
688
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 03:00:00 -
[96] - Quote
Diamonica Norya wrote:hey OP, go play a sandbox that seeds everything on the market and player have only 2 things to do in the game, you go PVP or you blow up npc all day, not so much of a sandbox it seems to me.
Why did you not show your corp/alliance in your profile and ask ppl to post with their main? this is my main and I mine because npc corp don't charge tax for whatever I do with my rocks? unlike a good percentage of greedy player corp that wants to tax you and get you to donate certain portions of what you rightfully earn so they can pay their 0.0 rent.
you are mad because your mission loot gets nerfed and it doesn't melt to as much minerals as the miners? sour much? at least CCP reduced the volume metal scrapes occupy eh?
you just sound like "oooh, the miners are earning too much compared to me for the same efforts put in, I'm jelly!"
Besides, Chribba would probably be very sad if there are no more rocks in the empty space for him to ... devour...
I forgot how to change that setting long ago, not that I really care about it in the first place. You can look my character up if you want to, and see all that info.
If you want to go tax free, make your own corp like real players do. Play the sandbox like it was intended, HO! |

Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
13
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 03:43:00 -
[97] - Quote
You would have to boost the amount of stuff you get from missions. Grinding missions you can build a few BC after a day of missions. I can build like 20 after a day of mining.
Also where would you get minerals in WH, sleepers don't really drop re processable loot.
In null generally mining is more profitable because of rorq but it would have to be moved to anomalies and most people wold bother salvaging cause of teh risk and it messes with isk/h. Basically there will be a lot less minerals on the market unless missions require an orca to haul all the **** out which would be even less fun than mining. |

Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
55
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 03:54:00 -
[98] - Quote
Nice trolling OP
You have really made a few people angry here |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
558
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 03:56:00 -
[99] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread I like to mine now and then. I never AFK mine.
|

Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
110
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 04:04:00 -
[100] - Quote
I was going give 4/10, but seeing how we're up to 5+ pages with a few passionate responses, I now give you a 6.5/10 OP. |

Treo 'Ssard
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 04:28:00 -
[101] - Quote
I'm mining right now...  |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
501
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 04:56:00 -
[102] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
Dumbass. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

cyennajewelz
Space Truckin Freight Unlimited
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 05:31:00 -
[103] - Quote
i love mining and yes i'm there at the key board while i mine. i've done lvl 4 missions for a while in my navy domi but still prefer mining ,hauling or salvaging more than missions. probably always will along with all the other rock hounds. |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
277
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 05:47:00 -
[104] - Quote
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Nice trolling OP
You have really made a few people angry here I wish this were true, however, I'm certain he's a stubborn child. Damn nature, you scary! |

Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
113
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 06:20:00 -
[105] - Quote
I think PVP needs to be removed personally.
Think of all the mining ops we can go on together, noone will ever get ganked in high-sec, low-sec OR 0.0.
It will be awesome to just mine ark in 0.0 together and we can all be friends forever.
I really think this idea has merit.
My EVE YouTube Channel |

Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
64
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 06:36:00 -
[106] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning.
well your not an idiot, you are close minded and a little daft.
i do enjoy mining like i enjoy coming to the forums, its a social time i spend with corp mates and IG friends, and i do it semi afk cus i am a badass like that. |

Gedid Tava
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 11:22:00 -
[107] - Quote
I have changed my mind and no longer wish to post here! Hurrumph. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2872
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 21:31:00 -
[108] - Quote
What a bad idea. Besides what does it matter just because you don't do it.
/c
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Selinate
695
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 21:34:00 -
[109] - Quote
Chribba wrote:What a bad idea. Besides what does it matter just because you don't do it.
/c
The only excuse you have for bringing this thread back to the front of GD (which I wasn't planning on touching again, I got my entertainment) is because you also want to see more rage.
Chribba is trolling now. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2873
|
Posted - 2012.03.24 21:44:00 -
[110] - Quote
Actually didn't even know it was off-page since I just followed my notification mail here. My apologies for bringing it back to life.
/c
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Starcaller Dredg
1st Contact Fade 2 Black
4
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 08:37:00 -
[111] - Quote
Chribba is the ultimate refutation to this pointless crusade. Cheers to the man who signed my rifter hulls. |

Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
14
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 08:56:00 -
[112] - Quote
If mining was not a profession, The Wis would not have been put in a situation where he could have lost his Mackinaw, thus becoming suicidal.
I DEMAND CCP removes mining so no one else may consider suicide as an alternative to grinding for a new mining barge! |

equcin meey
camdy and Co. inc.
3
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 09:04:00 -
[113] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
well i could say your so wrong but i think your just trolling  support the Lego Rifter-á
http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/11619 |

Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction Gears Confederation
44
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Posted - 2012.03.27 09:06:00 -
[114] - Quote
Feels like i am ended in WoW, i see trolls everywhere.  Dude, where is my Charon? |

March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
146
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 09:06:00 -
[115] - Quote
Selinate wrote:Selissa Shadoe wrote:OP, You're an idiot.
Next. Post with your main or else whatever you say is irrelevant. Especially since you don't give any reasoning. OP, You're an idiot.
Next.
(posted with my main. what now?) |

Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
124
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 09:15:00 -
[116] - Quote
Best solution is to remove mineral income from other sources.
That makes mining profitable business, and we will see mining fleets in 0.0 where afk pilots may get killed.
This would generate lot of more action for smaller groups to operate in 0.0 and lowsec, as miners, hunters who try to kill those and warriors who protect them.
This fits better to new wow in space ideology. |

Rogan Otsolen
The 22nd Jenquai Deep Space Corp Checkmate.
13
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 10:06:00 -
[117] - Quote
I won't rage about it but if you don't like/want to mine, there are plenty of other ways to make ISK. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
336
|
Posted - 2012.03.27 10:23:00 -
[118] - Quote
I also support removal/nerfing the amount of minerals from reprocessing.
As it is now, it's much easier for us to get the minerals we need by flying out to lowsec, do some anoms and melt the loot than actually mining grav sites in our home system. |

Xaqa
Cryptic Arch
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 18:47:00 -
[119] - Quote
You dislike a portion of the game (mining). Therefore, it should be removed.
I like a portion of the game (mining). Therefore, it should stay in.
Which opinion is (more) valid?
p.s. And just so we're clear: no one ever goes afk or does other things while missioning. Ever. The Cryptic Arch - Always Building |

Rimase
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
13
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 18:52:00 -
[120] - Quote
Hey. Check me out (bio): This is what can make fleet mining exciting. Moon rings, planet rings and even big solarsystem (star) ring if that's possible with this suggestion -- ******* AWESOME. (Why CCP no improve Shareholding?):--áCome on, CCP. Make EVE really ******* interesting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=71032#post71032 |

Duvida
The Scope Gallente Federation
54
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 18:59:00 -
[121] - Quote
Selinate wrote:FFS just end it already. Nobody likes mining. No, not even you who is about to rage about removing it, since I already know that the second you start mining in your hulk up in high sec, you go afk so that you can do something else while you "play the game" waiting for lasers to cycle.
Just end it already. Let missions be the primary source of minerals, there's not a single one that you can't get from missions anyway!
As far as Ice mining goes, it's terrible, just seed the fuel on the market from NPC vendors.
/thread
First off, snark:
If there was any post that qualifies as a 'how dare people like what I don't like and play differently than I do!', this would be it.
Second, CCP does not appear to be making EVE to appeal to only one type of player any longer.
Third, there is one type of mineral that will not be available via missions any longer, if I understand the system and upcoming drone nerf correctly. Morphite.
And fourth "/thread"... nope. "I declare to have the last word on any subject"... doesn't seem to work in a world where other voices are not totally suppressed? |

Falcon Tastic
State War Academy Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 19:04:00 -
[122] - Quote
OP 0/10 |

Coolsmoke
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 19:07:00 -
[123] - Quote
Just make mining worthwhile.
Oh wait - minerals are going through the roof..
Well. |

Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
8
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 19:08:00 -
[124] - Quote
Why is this troll thread still being discussed? Man you guys are stupid... did you not read the sign? Feed ye not yonder troll. |

Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
258
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 19:11:00 -
[125] - Quote
OP is an idiot. Now everyone who has mining accounts/alts can cancel those accounts, loosing CCP money. Good idea. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
207
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 19:13:00 -
[126] - Quote
No need to remove Mining as a proff. Just remove T2 Barges. |

Duvida
The Scope Gallente Federation
54
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 20:06:00 -
[127] - Quote
Skydell wrote:No need to remove Mining as a proff. Just remove T2 Barges.
*feels a wave of despair in the force, as if thousands of suicide gankers were deprived of targets at once.   |

Jon Taggart
State War Academy Caldari State
18
|
Posted - 2012.04.08 20:07:00 -
[128] - Quote
I'm going to get a lot of rage/hate for this, but the OP does have a point...in some form. Minus the trolling.
Such an integral part of the EVE economy is also one of the most mind-numbing, boring activities in the entirety of the game. Most people say they enjoy mining because they can kick back, do a few errands around the house, and so on. There's nothing wrong with that, but in essence, mining is the only activity in the game that encourages people to play the game by not playing it. If that makes sense. Star Wars Galaxies tackled this issue with placeable extractors - a la PI - to curb the potential boredom problem that would be created by staring at asteroids/dirt all day.
If mineral prices keep skyrocketing the way they are, you're going to have to persuade more miners to add to the supply.
Is the profit enough of a draw? We'll just have to see, but if the activity itself was fun, then even more people would be mining in droves.
I wouldn't say get rid of it, but it definitely needs a revamp. Especially now that we're going to see an increased reliance on it. |
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