Originally by: Shadarle

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Originally by: Leowen

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Would be very interesting if CCP tried to pull something like this together though... IMHO I think their Economic Reports (where tf are they?) need filling out anyway.

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Agreed, would be neat if CCP did this. Even if they didn't list names, if they just compiled the top 10 people or so and listed that out, to give a general idea of how much money is in the hands of the richest people.

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Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier

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Anyone who says a person who has over 3 billion money isnt rich, really means that it's not that he isn't rich, it's just that I have a whole lot more. 3 billion is a lot of money. I have 163 million on my main. Yes, I'm not rich, had I a billion, I'd consider myself rich, just like a new miner in a navitas thinks having 5 mil is a lot.

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Originally by: Ricdics

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Some don't measure wealth by the weight of their wallet

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Originally by: Ricdics

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Some don't measure wealth by the weight of their wallet

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Originally by: Shadarle

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Originally by: Ricdics

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Some don't measure wealth by the weight of their wallet

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Rather, they measure it by the size of their... *ponders*

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Originally by: Astorothe

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A good metric for measuring wealth is not necessarily net assets - but your ability to create it quickly and reliably in the game without cheating (GTCs).

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Originally by: Astorothe

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A good metric for measuring wealth is not necessarily net assets - but your ability to create it quickly and reliably in the game without cheating (GTCs).

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Originally by: Shadarle

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Originally by: Ricdics

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Some don't measure wealth by the weight of their wallet

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Rather, they measure it by the size of their... *ponders*

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To Shar -verb:
 1 - To say what you mean.
 2 - To say what it means.
 3 - To say something mean.

Originally by: Danari

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I don't mind saying that I can instantly provide screenies showing in excess of 20bil in liquid assets, in addition to screenies proving in excess of 10bil for the destruction of shadfail towers, and 5bil in pvp expenses over the past 6 months. Selling primarily ravens. I must be mad

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Originally by: Tempest Kane

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Edited by: Tempest Kane on 28/08/2008 19:44:42

Do people have that much sat around in liquid isk? most likely not, i suspect alot of isk at that level is active eaither on the market , investment opertunity or alliance level deployments.

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Originally by: Roguehalo

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Much more interesting question is at what point did you lose serious interest in making more isk?

For me it happened at about 15b.

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Originally by: Femintaki

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The issue comes with trying to value assets that have no mineral value equivalent.

For example - suppose a character had in excess of 150 Tech 2 BPOs of all types (Mods, Ships, Ammo etc), valuing those to any degree of certainty is almost impossible as a T2 BPO value is simply what someone else would be willing to pay.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see a list of this sort if there were a way to value things consistently.

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Originally by: Shadarle

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Originally by: Femintaki

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The issue comes with trying to value assets that have no mineral value equivalent.

For example - suppose a character had in excess of 150 Tech 2 BPOs of all types (Mods, Ships, Ammo etc), valuing those to any degree of certainty is almost impossible as a T2 BPO value is simply what someone else would be willing to pay.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see a list of this sort if there were a way to value things consistently.

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Perhaps if you were just given 150 of them at once it would be hard to value them quickly. But I promise you that most people who own T2 BPO's know approximately what they are worth. I most definitely know the approximate value of every asset in the 1bil+ range. I'm shocked if there are many people who don't.

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Originally by: Femintaki

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Edited by: Femintaki on 28/08/2008 21:15:52

Originally by: Shadarle

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Originally by: Femintaki

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The issue comes with trying to value assets that have no mineral value equivalent.

For example - suppose a character had in excess of 150 Tech 2 BPOs of all types (Mods, Ships, Ammo etc), valuing those to any degree of certainty is almost impossible as a T2 BPO value is simply what someone else would be willing to pay.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see a list of this sort if there were a way to value things consistently.

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Perhaps if you were just given 150 of them at once it would be hard to value them quickly. But I promise you that most people who own T2 BPO's know approximately what they are worth. I most definitely know the approximate value of every asset in the 1bil+ range. I'm shocked if there are many people who don't.

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I have over 150 Tech 2 BPOs purchased over a period of around 4 years. I know what I paid for them, but that bears no relation to their current worth.

A small sample of 5 random BPOs:

Ares BPO - 100 mil
Taranis BPO - 100 mil
Small Armor Repairer II BPO - 15 mil
Medium Shield Extender II BPO - 4 mil
Medium Armor Repairer II BPO - 30 mil

I can guess at what they are worth, but I don't know for certain.

[Edit] Actually their current worth is of little consequence to me in many respects as I have no wish, desire or intention to sell them (except in the case where I have multiples of a given BPO)

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Originally by: Shadarle

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This seems rather odd to me. I personally feel like I need to know the value of the BPO's to know if they are worth producing or not. I need to know the profit per unit, the profit per month, and per year. This basically lets you know the value of the BPO if you were to sell it. It used to be that 12 months profit was the value of the BPO, now it's closer to 2-3 if not up to 5 times that or more in some cases. But someone with as many T2 BPO's as you probably knows which are worth more or less.

Of course you don't know if one BPO will sell for 15 bil or 16 bil, or another will sell for 500 mil or 600 mil, but in general you should know the basic value. Because if you don't know the value then that would also mean you don't even know if you're making money producing the item...

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