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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: FalconHawk so many problems/bugs to solve and CCP is messing around with historical landmarks/ tourist attractions .... as if there is nothing else to do
and secondly messing around with one of the most famous and liked community members ... is this now the time to **** off the playerbase so they are willing to move to new projects?
My overview is constantly bugged, I still get de-synched, and POS's have all sorts of problems. So what do they do? NERF CHRIBBA!
They need to get a clue. Now. --------
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Krystal Demishy Stop crying, that is a neeeded change; i'm surprised it was never done before!
Why is it needed?
I'm still curious to know why it is a needed change. And no, "caps aren't allowed in high-sec" doesn't count. They were till now, why not anymore? Where is the big problem?
I'm quite sure it's impossible to attack someone with a capital in high-sec, we'd have read about it. |
Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joss Sparq
On a personal note, I was thinking earlier this week that it'd be kind of cool (and perhaps a little dorky) to go on a kind of pilgrimage with my mining Alt (in his Hulk of course) to go see the Veldnought doing what it is famous for doing. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm ever going to get the chance to do that now and I feel a little cheated.
Exactly. It's like CCP are trying to eliminate anything that makes anyone unique or exceptional. They're destroying all the player made history in the game.
The Eve gate, the cemetery, and now the veld-nought. --------
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Krystal Demishy
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ooyama Krystal,, before quoting anyone,, get ur facts straight,, Caps can't be made in hisec ANYMORE!!![/quote
I know perfectly how things works and used to work. If this changed then it need to change for everyone!
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Darkireland So was this done for any reason other than to show the player base ccp no longer gives a shit about them?
With all due respect to CCP I'm pretty sure that the decision to do this wasn't made with a "hur hur, let's make sure everyone hates us" attitude.
Nevertheless...
You guys are sure doing a good job of making sure of just that.
Seriously. I'm not particularly angry - I can't be, it's not my game - but I am disappointed. I am disappointed in whoever thought this was a good, or even acceptable, idea, and disappointed in whoever condoned the action, and disappointed in everyone who heard about it and didn't speak up with "are you insane? It's the freaking veldnaught?" Why in the world would you do this? Was Chribba dominating the Amarr market for Veldspar and you're nerfing him directly? Did being able to fit 3 mining lasers to a capital ship give him an unfair advantage? (How much veld/sec does the veldnaught even eat anyway)
Or was it like "hey, this is a minor, meaningless inconsistency with the game, better fix it and get it out of the way."?
Or was it some GM who didn't quite realize why exactly the veldnaught - and other hisec capitals - were still in hisec in the first place, and just made an honest mistake?
The Veldnaught is famous. People travel from all over New Eden to get a look at it. How else is a new player likely to see a capital and get that sense of scale, without getting blown up in some supercapital fight?
What possible reason could there be to do this?
Fun fact - favoritism is only a bad thing if it goes to undeserving people or if it provides a real benefit to the player. Chribba of all people is deserving of such a thing and I think everyone knows it. And to be honest, having the privelige of mining in a dreadnaught in Amarr isn't really a benefit. It's just cool.
CCP... you're slipping, and it makes me very sad. Faction warfare is meaningless - I thought you were going to let us, the players, actually affect something, but taking control of systems - really the only thing you can do aside from shoot other people - is pointless, so you spent 1-2 years designing, basically, what Red vs. Blue did first. The speed changes are imho excessive - it's like you brainstormed all the ways you could nerf speed, and then did all of them at once. You've nerfed privateers long ago (by the way, that was lame), are going to nerf suicide ganking in the near future (yep, protect those people too lazy to protect themselves, that's what EVE is about... right?), and I'm not looking forward to your changes to the wardec mechanisms - you're talking about giving us specific goals and victory conditions, but hey, you promised that with FW and look where that got us. And most disturbingly you seem to have this tendency to make changes to the game with a huge freaking hammer, ****ing all over what the players have worked hard to make. Get rid of all junk cans? fine. Get rid of the collective history of the new eden system and the eve gate, all the cans put there by players? lame. Forcing Azia to move her cemetery? lame. Get any combative capitals out of highsec? fine. Move an iconic ship belonging to the one player who has probably done the most for you? (Eve-files, eve-search, etc) Very, very lame.
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
I still think you do. But you're choosing a really, really terrible way to go about it. ... And it's harder to believe, now, that you're not going to keep trashing what the players have done like this for the sake of equality and consistency, so you can present that face to the new players you're always trying to bring in.
So I'm not angry, but I am... Disappointed... Worried...
And feeling cheated.
Turn yourselves around, CCP. ~Terianna Eri __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Blackened Soul
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel Edited by: Durzel on 27/08/2008 08:02:08 Whilst I know Chribba's Veldnaught was docile, how many of the other ones manufactured in high-sec weren't being abused? I'd be interested to see some statistics of how big a problem this actually is before forming an informed opinion about it.
As far as I was aware it is still possible to manufacture capitals in high-sec where there already exists a manufacturing POS (or however it works), perhaps the people who "paid billions for high-sec capitals" are the ones who have brought this rule change upon themselves?
*shrug* It's a shame really, but ultimately one man's benevolence with his capitals in high-sec shouldn't be a green card for more malicious high-sec capital owner antics, if indeed this was happening.
the hi-sec cap manufacturing facilities got nerfed, ages back, (while chribbas infant rorqual was in production)
the current hi sec caps were limited by exploit rules, essentially meaning that agression would result in all manner of shitstorm. the hi sec capitals were limited to one system, couldnt be used in combat, couldnt be replaced, essentially they were show pieces and nothing more.
no possible reason to move them, probably done by someone who just likes to take a piece of game history and chuck it out the window, the kind of people who dont care about eve theyre just there for the job.
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Jogvan
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:10:00 -
[127]
Totally ghey CCP
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Taipan Leviathan
The Maverick Navy Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:11:00 -
[128]
Keep the veldnaught!
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Arte
AFK
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:11:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Krystal Demishy Stop crying, that is a neeeded change; i'm surprised it was never done before!
Why is it needed?
I'm still curious to know why it is a needed change. And no, "caps aren't allowed in high-sec" doesn't count. They were till now, why not anymore? Where is the big problem?
I'm quite sure it's impossible to attack someone with a capital in high-sec, we'd have read about it.
Just think, if caps were allowed then maybe that Wyvern would have been destroyed before it hit the station and we wouldn't have all this nasty war business!!!
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Tuvar Hiede
Caldari Cold Suns Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:11:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Krystal Demishy
Originally by: Ooyama Krystal,, before quoting anyone,, get ur facts straight,, Caps can't be made in hisec ANYMORE!!![/quote
I know perfectly how things works and used to work. If this changed then it need to change for everyone!
It truly does seem that some people have no heart... what's wrong with it there? it can't do anything other than be a tourist icon. and a part of EVE history
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Del ReyII
Caldari Shadow Research Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:11:00 -
[131]
Your a better guy than I, if you keep all your extra services like eve-files working when your treated like this.
CCP need to know a ****ed off Chribba.
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Tom Perrish
Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:13:00 -
[132]
nice to see how threats are deleted about this issue but no one of ccp have the balls to answear here...
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:13:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
You are too generous. I don't. Not anymore. It took them 10 months, but they've successfully convinced me that they're just in it for the money, and could give a crap about the players.
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:14:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Vikarion on 27/08/2008 08:14:48
Originally by: Tom Perrish nice to see how threats are deleted about this issue but no one of ccp have the balls to answear here...
They usually only answer in the fanboi threads anymore. They "explain" this by saying that they get insulted in the complaint threads. Well, after a decision like this, they deserve to get insulted. --------
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Ooyama
Caldari Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:14:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Krystal Demishy
You are ridiculous, this thread just prove that even Chribba is a noob carabear flame troller, whining for a "nerf".
I want my outpost in high sec then.
Guess i was right in my assumptions on your IQ-level, as that statement talks for itself.
Before posting anything again, i suggest you research some eve-history, read up on what a nerf is (before using the word again), and generally try to get some grasp of what common sense is when wanting to argue.
As for your remarks about me, that only shows your maturitylevel, as this is a topic bout a piece of in-game history. Apparently you have no idea on what sarcasm is, aswell as don't know enough about the games in's and out's to be taken seriously anymore.
I don't know many of the hisec cap's, but the Veldnaught has for ages been a landmark in the game,, and hence (taking into consideration that there where rules allready securing that hisec cap's COULD NOT BE ABUSED!) this action from CCP was uncalled for,,, atleast aslong as there is no explanation on why it happened.
"Yama".
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Dihania
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Last in a long line of STUPIDÖ choices CCP made recently.
I am sure you intend latest, as in other stupid things to come, which we all are sure about. Shame for the Veldnought, was a nice icon, especially when used by someone in a pacifist(?sp) manner.
[hrhr]
Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
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Arte
AFK
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:15:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Krystal Demishy
Originally by: Ooyama
Krystal,, before quoting anyone,, get ur facts straight,, Caps can't be made in hisec ANYMORE!!!
I know perfectly how things works and used to work. If this changed then it need to change for everyone!
It did change for everyone. No-one was allowed to make cap ships in hi-sec after the change... no exceptios were made. Sadly you're not as informed as you like to think
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50freefly
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:15:00 -
[138]
CCP. Honestly?
**** this
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:15:00 -
[139]
have you seen your birthday?
keep a good eye on it. ccp might take it when no one is looking ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most |
Tuvar Hiede
Caldari Cold Suns Squadron
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:15:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
You are too generous. I don't. Not anymore. It took them 10 months, but they've successfully convinced me that they're just in it for the money, and could give a crap about the players.
Unfortunately I think you are hitting very close to the truth there. But even if that is true, how can this help than make money? detraying their playerbase and doing something that will OF COURSE annoy people. \o/ for CCP f*** ups
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:16:00 -
[141]
This is just astonishing.
Why?
What possible reason could there be for doing this?
Chribba, I've been insanely jealous of you since I first heard about your Veldnaught. But I also thought it was insanely cool.
I'm just disgusted that CCP would wipe that away with (apparently) no good reason. ------------------ Ironfleet.com |
Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:16:00 -
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Edited by: Eran Laude on 27/08/2008 08:16:13 Everyone needs to read and support this CSM Thread.
Bloody outrage . . .
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Arte
Just think, if caps were allowed then maybe that Wyvern would have been destroyed before it hit the station and we wouldn't have all this nasty war business!!!
Wyvern hitting a station?
Maybe you wanted to say a Nyx???
And once again. Leave Veldnaught in high sec. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. |
Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:17:00 -
[144]
I hope this thread exceeds the 600+ posts devoted to that idiotic "nerf level 4's" whine.
-- Eventus stultorum magister. |
Jimer Lins
Gallente Federation Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:17:00 -
[145]
I'll bet 10 million ISK that someone petitioned it being in highsec.
3 guesses as to who, and the first 2 are already wrong.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:17:00 -
[146]
Well.
*tips his hat to the side*
*adjusts his concord thong*
Now Chribba, i've known him long, not personally, but known still and i've known Chribba before...well...let's just say before Chribba was Chribba. I do believe he too is enforced by the rules like anyone else, and if CCP so demands, well, it's their choice ofcourse.
I can't sit here saying that i "care", or that this is an "outrage", but if the capitals aren't doing anything wrong in highsec, and i doubt mining veldspar is "wrong", they should just keep 'em as "part of the storyline". Old remenants, unarmed, basically useless, husks of times of old.
Like Chribba, i'd simply like an explanation of why this is a needed change. Nothing mroe, nothing rabble. CSM get to work.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Ledoux Holdings
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn I hope this thread exceeds the 600+ posts devoted to that idiotic "nerf level 4's" whine.
That'll never happen because the only people who post in disagreement with this move are trolls. _
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Ooyama
Caldari Rastana CMP Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:18:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Krystal Demishy
Originally by: Ooyama Krystal,, before quoting anyone,, get ur facts straight,, Caps can't be made in hisec ANYMORE!!![/quote
I know perfectly how things works and used to work. If this changed then it need to change for everyone!
It DID change for everyone! No new cap's could be built in hisec, and the ones that where there where restricted to forever staying in 1(!) system, aswell as NEVER being used as the immense combat-machines they where designed as.
"Yama".
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:19:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Vikarion on 27/08/2008 08:19:40
Originally by: Tuvar Hiede
Originally by: Vikarion
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Let's be honest here. EVE's gameplay isn't the best. It needs some work. But half the reason I stick with the game is because I think you folks at CCP do a good job and genuinely care about the players and what we've done.
You are too generous. I don't. Not anymore. It took them 10 months, but they've successfully convinced me that they're just in it for the money, and could give a crap about the players.
Unfortunately I think you are hitting very close to the truth there. But even if that is true, how can this help than make money? detraying their playerbase and doing something that will OF COURSE annoy people. \o/ for CCP f*** ups
Because when you stop caring about your customers, you stop caring about your product. That's why.
To be quite honest, this is CCP symbollically telling the players: "screw you". --------
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Soulita
Gallente Inner Core
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Posted - 2008.08.27 08:19:00 -
[150]
Why? OHHHH why?
Leave the veldnaught alone...
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