Originally by: Alz Shado

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Might I suggest a response?

"A Week without Eve-Files/Eve-Search"

Simply disconnect what is perhaps the most vital pieces of Eve community kit. No more sigs, no more hosting the Territorial maps, no more easy-to-use search to make these forums into something barely more functional than a myspace page.

I think someone over at CCP just forgets how damn important you are to keeping their incompetent mess of a web presence functioning.

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Originally by: Alz Shado

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Might I suggest a response?

"A Week without Eve-Files/Eve-Search"

Simply disconnect what is perhaps the most vital pieces of Eve community kit. No more sigs, no more hosting the Territorial maps, no more easy-to-use search to make these forums into something barely more functional than a myspace page.

I think someone over at CCP just forgets how damn important you are to keeping their incompetent mess of a web presence functioning.

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Originally by: Semkhet

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Let me point out:

- Veteran isk wealth: If it disappears with them quitting, what does that matter? If it's in their wallets, it's not part of the economy.
- What you've just asserted about BPOs has been disproven enough times before.
- Leaders of important corps and alliances? Sir, this is a GAME. They are NOT important, even to the game. They are tyrants who are following their own desires. Someone else will replace them when they go.
- The game will not crash and burn if a few hundred skilled FCs go - in fact, it may give the less experienced pilots a chance to actually enjoy parts of eve they're always strong-armed out of :P

So to conclude, every point you tried to make is rubbish.

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You don't seem to read. Does your isk disappear if your sub expires and you reactivate it one month later ? NO. Ditto for all your belongings that aren't stored on conquerable stations.

Fact of the matter is that only a small fraction of ingame items is profitable to build, and it's precisely old foxes who know which ones That most of EvE players struggle to build useless stuff from a profit perspective is a moot point. There's only one line of items which isn't vulnerable to BPO owner's characterized dumping. Unfortunately for newcomers, it's also a line of production which requires billion(s) of investment and quite a few sp's in the right spots.

Leaders are important. It's their experience, focus, will, vision & charisma which turn a given corp/alliance into nothing or everything. That's all the difference between BOB and an average alliance for example.

If the majority of experienced FC were to take a 1-month vacation, I can guarantee you that at their return, more than a self-proclaimed FC would stare ashamed at how fast his blob went "Ad Patres". Difference between those who know what they are doing, and the rest...

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: Drebble

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Originally by: ShardowRhino

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hahahah, every thread need someone with an operational brain to smack some sense into you whiney ,pole riding,cry babies. I'm an A-hole, thats for sure, I get that title because I have this habit of trying to beat sense into fools that don't like the truth. Someone says something stupid, i beat some sense into them. SOmeone does something stupid, i beat some sense into them.

If you hammer away long enough eventually even the most stubborn moron will crack and admit that they are full of crap. They hate me for it because I made them realize just how stupid they sound and act.

as for the guy's name, unlike you guys that can't be arsed to get up off your knees before posting, I don't care about his name. I'm not going to get it tattooed due to this outrage. I'm never going to go on about how great the guy is. I'm never going to praise him as the EVE mesiah or any other crazy crap. So his name was misspelled, to bad, get over it just like his capital ship.

I'm not telling you guys what to do with your lips when you see chirpa again, thats your business. What I am saying is that you guys look like a bunch of idiots crying over someone you have given a godlike image in your minds. The way some of you guys go on, such as the guy I was initially quoting, probably ****s off to chirba's bio or has a chribra alter where he offers up rocks as sacrifice.

How about you guys stop whining and create a "save chirbra" alliance where you can protect your mesiah while he mines the veldspar? I gotta suggest that because anything that is logical will surely fly over your heads. Anything verging on cult like behavior however will make sense. hell i don't doubt a 1000 moron strong alliance comes out tommorrow with the goal of protecting chirrbra.
geg
I know if that capital ship gets popped, I'll turn the KM post into a desktop background. But seriously, you guys are sick.....seriously disturbed and I don't mean about the change that got the ship moved.


I hear chirbraa will be serving up some cherry koolaid in the field at 12GMT.GO THERE, BE SAVED!!!!!!!

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Your envious tears are delicious. You rage at people becausde your realise
that you have nobodys respect, and when you see someone who is respected
you want to tear them down just to fill the emptyness of being a nobody.

Go on, post more defense, but you know it is true. I say again, can I have
your stuff when you emo-quit?

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Hi there sir, I notice you're using logical fallacies to troll this upright gentleman!

What exactly, is respect in an internet spaceship game?

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Originally by: teji

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This is awesome, next up t2 bpos.

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Originally by: Kage Getsu

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You can't get BPOs through invention, only negative ME and PE copies.
I guess starting with 800k more SP than the veterans did really balances things out when they have in excess of 60 million SP in most cases. (I quit for a while so I'm only at 50-something)
It's hard when the old guys have more money, friends, ships, and skills than you.

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: teji

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This is awesome, next up t2 bpos.

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If it goes in the same manner, I can't wait to see the tears!

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Originally by: Alz Shado

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Might I suggest a response?

"A Week without Eve-Files/Eve-Search"

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Originally by: Dionisius

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: teji

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This is awesome, next up t2 bpos.

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If it goes in the same manner, I can't wait to see the tears!

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You won't, those people will either go into invention ( most of them already have setup accounts for that ) , or they will just quit.

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: teji

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This is awesome, next up t2 bpos.

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If it goes in the same manner, I can't wait to see the tears!

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Originally by: Traidor Disloyal

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: teji

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This is awesome, next up t2 bpos.

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If it goes in the same manner, I can't wait to see the tears!

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I got to agree. This would be more fun then watching the implosion of SWG (NGE) and AoC (at release)at the same time.

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: Asestorian

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: Asestorian

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Pretty much what Sakura Nihil said.

CCP need to try and retain some of what made them so special in the first place. They need to go back to posting regular dev blogs detailing their plans and ideas; they need to be honest about things that go wrong; they need to appear that they actually still give a damn.

Is that really so hard, CCP?

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I have an idea of how we can achieve this. Irritate the vets enough to get them out, then the structures they have made that make the game 'less fun' will be gone!

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Long term players have nothing to do with CCP not speaking to us properly.

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Right, so this thread started what, 8 hours ago. What exactly constitutes CCP not speaking to you properly? Are they breaching a clause of the terms of service or something? If not, then please, harden the **** up and wait?

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Originally by: Kage Getsu

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Originally by: Alz Shado

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Might I suggest a response?

"A Week without Eve-Files/Eve-Search"

Simply disconnect what is perhaps the most vital pieces of Eve community kit. No more sigs, no more hosting the Territorial maps, no more easy-to-use search to make these forums into something barely more functional than a myspace page.

I think someone over at CCP just forgets how damn important you are to keeping their incompetent mess of a web presence functioning.

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Never used either of those except for the territorial maps, and there are image hosting services all over the place. I didn't even know the name of the guy who ran those services, and didn't know it was the same guy who owned a high-security capital.

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Originally by: N1fty

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That occurred to me too. I don't think its in the Veldmunchers nature to be spiteful. It hardly hurts CCP that a community website is switched off.
Although it would shine a light on CCP's excuse for community support. Eve-Files being a direct product of CCP's Fan Submissions page being broken for years.

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Hi there sir, I notice you're using logical fallacies to troll this upright gentleman!

What exactly, is respect in an internet spaceship game?

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Originally by: Asestorian

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Long term players have nothing to do with CCP not speaking to us properly.

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Originally by: Korinn

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I'm glad that people with such an intricate knowledge of the game and its community are here, willing and able to provide their amazing insight into the issues at hand

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Originally by: Asestorian

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CCP not talking to us properly isn't just based around this issue. This is just pushing it over the edge.

Once upon a time CCP regularly posted dev blogs. CCP also regularly posted on the forums, even just to have a chat. CCP seemed to actually exist in the community beyond the standard community representatives (not that I have anything against you guys).

CCP are getting further and further away from us - or so it seems. We no longer have any real idea what they're trying to do with the game, whereas we used to be told often what the devs were thinking about and where they would like to try and go. They seem to be favouring the opinion that the forum is near worthless as a real tool for gauging community feeling on various issues, but have yet to tell us what they do feel is representative of that.

Then we have things like the alliance tournament. Did you know that they cancelled that? I didn't, but apparently they have. Why? Probably because of EVE TV. But what's wrong with that? They used to have very little issue in spending a bit of extra money to treat us to unique and special things, but now they won't.

In this case they have simply handled it badly. Chribba is a well loved community icon, and he damn well is special. That's one of the reasons EVE is so great, because someone like Chribba can be special. Now they removed something that made him like that? What for? Why? They need to tell us things before they do them, especially when it's something that affects the community this much. And if they hadn't realised that it did affect the community this much, then it only goes to show how out of touch they have become.

I understand that CCP cannot be exactly the same as it used to be as it grows, but growth and restructuring isn't really an excuse to start near enough ignoring us.

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Originally by: Traidor Disloyal

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I got to agree. This would be more fun then watching the implosion of SWG (NGE) and AoC (at release)at the same time.

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Originally by: Kage Getsu

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Originally by: Korinn

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I'm glad that people with such an intricate knowledge of the game and its community are here, willing and able to provide their amazing insight into the issues at hand

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With in excess of 100,000 subscribers why am I supposed to know anything about some guy who used to pull out a capital ship sometimes to show it off in a situation where it's nothing more than a novelty?

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Originally by: ShardowRhino

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seriously this whole thread is pathetic. If you guys really think someone else that plays this game is so important that your going to leave the game because that 1 person was effected by a change, then you guys gotta unsub!! RIGHT now, no not when your sub conviently runs out, I mean RIGHT NOW!!

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Agreed.

So much for coping with a 'harsh' mmo, eh?

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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo

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Hit head brick wall.

Get a perspective. Anything that someone stops doing, someone else will start doing. If all the vets leave, people will fill the gaps, and there will be profit!

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Originally by: ShardowRhino

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hahaha, man I have been thinking about that the whole time I've been enjoying this halarious thread. If the eve playerbase was as "hardcore" and "Cutthroat" as they want to believe they are over wow players, the responses from post 2-1000 would be asking for chirbra's stuff and telling him to "gtfo".

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