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N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:28:00 - [511] All those saying "Chribba is just another player" are wrong. The fact that Chribba puts in huge amounts of time and money into the community as has been said. But whats not been pointed out is that as he has shaped significant aspects of the community. Because of this theres almost a Chribba brand now and the Veldnaught was a part of that. That brand is collectively owned by the community, as an idea of whats good about Eve. What I'm trying to say is that CCP didn't just remove a capital from highsec, they removed the communities flagship.
Semkhet Spartan Industries	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:28:00 - [512] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Originally by: Semkhet You fail to realize that CCP is a money making venture, and as such, like every other entity of this kind, is vulnerable to an organized consumer movement. There is no problem bending commercial entities, you just have to hit where it hurts the most: their wallet. For example, if EVE's vets would decide to suspend their subs for a month as protest, we are not talking about a trivial sum since they all run multiple accounts. Hey, I agree with you. If they all decide to suspend their subs for a month....wait, pigs may fly! As much of a deliciously dangerous threat that is, I tell you sir, so long as 0.0. is worth holding, a sudden bank-breaking mass suspending of accounts will never happen! People don't want their space to go into the hands of people who can get over these ridiculous protests, and come back to find they're spaceless, moonless...etc. You additionally fail to realize that power in EvE is also in the hand of vets, and beyond any kind of ingame animosity, all these vets remained in EvE for so long because the game fulfilled their vision of fun. So you shouldn't underestimate their resolution and focus.
Taex	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:30:00 - [513] Edited by: Taex on 27/08/2008 14:30:31 The man has Veldspar tattooed on his arm. I think that alone deserves a highsec mining dreadnought. Especially since he got it there before they were even restricted. I mean, you're going to alienate Chribba? Seriously?
Drebble Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:30:00 - [514] Originally by: ShardowRhino seriously this whole thread is pathetic. If you guys really think someone else that plays this game is so important that your going to leave the game because that 1 person was effected by a change, then you guys gotta unsub!! RIGHT now, no not when your sub conviently runs out, I mean RIGHT NOW!! Can I have your stuff?
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:31:00 - [515] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 27/08/2008 14:31:31 Originally by: Semkhet You additionally fail to realize that power in EvE is also in the hand of vets, and beyond any kind of ingame animosity, all these vets remained in EvE for so long because the game fulfilled their vision of fun. So you shouldn't underestimate their resolution and focus. What power are you referring to? - Subscriber base (about 30%?) Edit: I think it's less... - Owning some 0.0. pixels (which other people will be happy to take over) - Owning most of the T2 BPOs (which invention can compensate for) Or is that simply because they have enjoyed Eve that they somehow are powerful? If their resolution is so great, their focus so clear, then why are they troubled by any of these petty changes? "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died."
jatkot Caldari North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:31:00 - [516] Chribba is the most trusted player when its about help in transfers for big ships and other highmoneythings in this universe. And Chribba is known to be trusted. Dunno whos the new boss at CCP who wanna implement some new rules as a legacy from his/her period!?? You have my support Chribba! Chribba for teh Wind!!
Dsnakes Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:32:00 - [517] Completly useless, and unneed move. Now CCP correct your mistake and you might be forgiven
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:32:00 - [518] Originally by: N1fty All those saying "Chribba is just another player" are wrong. The fact that Chribba puts in huge amounts of time and money into the community as has been said. But whats not been pointed out is that as he has shaped significant aspects of the community. Because of this theres almost a Chribba brand now and the Veldnaught was a part of that. That brand is collectively owned by the community, as an idea of whats good about Eve. What I'm trying to say is that CCP didn't just remove a capital from highsec, they removed the communities flagship. Do you think you're going to earn points for such a pathetic display? Just asking. _________________________________________________________
jatkot Caldari North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:32:00 - [519] Originally by: Drebble Originally by: ShardowRhino seriously this whole thread is pathetic. If you guys really think someone else that plays this game is so important that your going to leave the game because that 1 person was effected by a change, then you guys gotta unsub!! RIGHT now, no not when your sub conviently runs out, I mean RIGHT NOW!! Can I have your stuff? No, All base are belong to Chribb!!
Drebble Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:34:00 - [520] Originally by: jatkot No, All base are belong to Chribb!! But that sad rhino is emo-quitting because he doesnt have what it takes to get peoples respect. I want his stuff. Plees?

ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:34:00 - [521] Originally by: Semkhet Edited by: Semkhet on 27/08/2008 13:53:30 Originally by: ShardowRhino wait, people that don't know about ccp or EVE some how knows about a guy that works on pet projects for a game no one knows about run by a company no one has heard of. tell me how that makes ANY sense at all! People that don't know someone but some how fully trust him is a fool. Imagine in real life going around saying that even though you know nothing about him. CHirba does not represent the community. Last I checked im part of the community and no one represents me but me. so please pull your head out of your butt and realize your being over dramatic. seriously if this "landmine" goes off, can you all please contract me your stuffz? I expect more veldspar then i could ever imagine using. again, you guys are emoraging over someone that did pet projects. Pet projects should never buy you sway with the company running a game. Its funny that in this game people love someone that people believe has say in what ccp does. Yet in another game such a person was loathed by the vast majority. this landmine of yours is never going to go off. its to stupid to know when to actually go off so its clearly a dud. Every thread needs his a-hole, so it's cool you're willing to take that position to stir the pot. However you should attempt to hold your standards above kindergarten levels, like for example being able to spell a 7-letters name correctly: it's Chribba, not CHirba... hahahah, every thread need someone with an operational brain to smack some sense into you whiney ,pole riding,cry babies. I'm an A-hole, thats for sure, I get that title because I have this habit of trying to beat sense into fools that don't like the truth. Someone says something stupid, i beat some sense into them. SOmeone does something stupid, i beat some sense into them. If you hammer away long enough eventually even the most stubborn moron will crack and admit that they are full of crap. They hate me for it because I made them realize just how stupid they sound and act. as for the guy's name, unlike you guys that can't be arsed to get up off your knees before posting, I don't care about his name. I'm not going to get it tattooed due to this outrage. I'm never going to go on about how great the guy is. I'm never going to praise him as the EVE mesiah or any other crazy crap. So his name was misspelled, to bad, get over it just like his capital ship. I'm not telling you guys what to do with your lips when you see chirpa again, thats your business. What I am saying is that you guys look like a bunch of idiots crying over someone you have given a godlike image in your minds. The way some of you guys go on, such as the guy I was initially quoting, probably ****s off to chirba's bio or has a chribra alter where he offers up rocks as sacrifice. How about you guys stop whining and create a "save chirbra" alliance where you can protect your mesiah while he mines the veldspar? I gotta suggest that because anything that is logical will surely fly over your heads. Anything verging on cult like behavior however will make sense. hell i don't doubt a 1000 moron strong alliance comes out tommorrow with the goal of protecting chirrbra. I know if that capital ship gets popped, I'll turn the KM post into a desktop background. But seriously, you guys are sick.....seriously disturbed and I don't mean about the change that got the ship moved. I hear chirbraa will be serving up some cherry koolaid in the field at 12GMT.GO THERE, BE SAVED!!!!!!!
Mel Dareia	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:37:00 - [522] I think some misunderstand the problem. This is not about Chribba, but about a feature of Eve that provided quite a bit of harmless entertainment for many, especially newer players. Something special. One of the many small things that added character to the game Seeing it deleted without a real reason is just...sad.
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:39:00 - [523] Originally by: Drebble Originally by: ShardowRhino seriously this whole thread is pathetic. If you guys really think someone else that plays this game is so important that your going to leave the game because that 1 person was effected by a change, then you guys gotta unsub!! RIGHT now, no not when your sub conviently runs out, I mean RIGHT NOW!! Can I have your stuff? HAHAHAAAHAH, dude you quoted the wrong person. I'm lolling about the change and the crying that is going on over it. I'm not leaving, hell CCP just made sure I'll stick around longer just so I can watch you guys cry for your veldspar mesiah. But why would you ask for my stuff? you've already unsubbed ,right? Your confused, I know ,stupid but confused. So again... To all the "omg, save chirbraa" whiners, feel free to contract me all of your stuff. You won't be needing it as you unsub from eve and never return. Much like the veldnaught will never see another roid without being swarmed.
Korinn The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:39:00 - [524] Personal attack removed. Navigator
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:41:00 - [525] Reply to moderated post removed. Navigator _________________________________________________________
Drebble Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:41:00 - [526] Originally by: ShardowRhino hahahah, every thread need someone with an operational brain to smack some sense into you whiney ,pole riding,cry babies. I'm an A-hole, thats for sure, I get that title because I have this habit of trying to beat sense into fools that don't like the truth. Someone says something stupid, i beat some sense into them. SOmeone does something stupid, i beat some sense into them. If you hammer away long enough eventually even the most stubborn moron will crack and admit that they are full of crap. They hate me for it because I made them realize just how stupid they sound and act. as for the guy's name, unlike you guys that can't be arsed to get up off your knees before posting, I don't care about his name. I'm not going to get it tattooed due to this outrage. I'm never going to go on about how great the guy is. I'm never going to praise him as the EVE mesiah or any other crazy crap. So his name was misspelled, to bad, get over it just like his capital ship. I'm not telling you guys what to do with your lips when you see chirpa again, thats your business. What I am saying is that you guys look like a bunch of idiots crying over someone you have given a godlike image in your minds. The way some of you guys go on, such as the guy I was initially quoting, probably ****s off to chirba's bio or has a chribra alter where he offers up rocks as sacrifice. How about you guys stop whining and create a "save chirbra" alliance where you can protect your mesiah while he mines the veldspar? I gotta suggest that because anything that is logical will surely fly over your heads. Anything verging on cult like behavior however will make sense. hell i don't doubt a 1000 moron strong alliance comes out tommorrow with the goal of protecting chirrbra. geg I know if that capital ship gets popped, I'll turn the KM post into a desktop background. But seriously, you guys are sick.....seriously disturbed and I don't mean about the change that got the ship moved. I hear chirbraa will be serving up some cherry koolaid in the field at 12GMT.GO THERE, BE SAVED!!!!!!! Your envious tears are delicious. You rage at people becausde your realise that you have nobodys respect, and when you see someone who is respected you want to tear them down just to fill the emptyness of being a nobody. Go on, post more defense, but you know it is true. I say again, can I have your stuff when you emo-quit?
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:42:00 - [527] This thread is silly. .
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:43:00 - [528] Originally by: Kage Getsu Originally by: N1fty What I'm trying to say is that CCP didn't just remove a capital from highsec, they removed the communities flagship. Do you think you're going to earn points for such a pathetic display? Just asking. If it helps to save a part of the community that I like. Yes.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:43:00 - [529] Originally by: Drebble Originally by: ShardowRhino hahahah, every thread need someone with an operational brain to smack some sense into you whiney ,pole riding,cry babies. I'm an A-hole, thats for sure, I get that title because I have this habit of trying to beat sense into fools that don't like the truth. Someone says something stupid, i beat some sense into them. SOmeone does something stupid, i beat some sense into them. If you hammer away long enough eventually even the most stubborn moron will crack and admit that they are full of crap. They hate me for it because I made them realize just how stupid they sound and act. as for the guy's name, unlike you guys that can't be arsed to get up off your knees before posting, I don't care about his name. I'm not going to get it tattooed due to this outrage. I'm never going to go on about how great the guy is. I'm never going to praise him as the EVE mesiah or any other crazy crap. So his name was misspelled, to bad, get over it just like his capital ship. I'm not telling you guys what to do with your lips when you see chirpa again, thats your business. What I am saying is that you guys look like a bunch of idiots crying over someone you have given a godlike image in your minds. The way some of you guys go on, such as the guy I was initially quoting, probably ****s off to chirba's bio or has a chribra alter where he offers up rocks as sacrifice. How about you guys stop whining and create a "save chirbra" alliance where you can protect your mesiah while he mines the veldspar? I gotta suggest that because anything that is logical will surely fly over your heads. Anything verging on cult like behavior however will make sense. hell i don't doubt a 1000 moron strong alliance comes out tommorrow with the goal of protecting chirrbra. geg I know if that capital ship gets popped, I'll turn the KM post into a desktop background. But seriously, you guys are sick.....seriously disturbed and I don't mean about the change that got the ship moved. I hear chirbraa will be serving up some cherry koolaid in the field at 12GMT.GO THERE, BE SAVED!!!!!!! Your envious tears are delicious. You rage at people becausde your realise that you have nobodys respect, and when you see someone who is respected you want to tear them down just to fill the emptyness of being a nobody. Go on, post more defense, but you know it is true. I say again, can I have your stuff when you emo-quit? Hi there sir, I notice you're using logical fallacies to troll this upright gentleman! What exactly, is respect in an internet spaceship game? "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died."
Semkhet Spartan Industries	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:43:00 - [530] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 27/08/2008 14:31:31 Originally by: Semkhet You additionally fail to realize that power in EvE is also in the hand of vets, and beyond any kind of ingame animosity, all these vets remained in EvE for so long because the game fulfilled their vision of fun. So you shouldn't underestimate their resolution and focus. What power are you referring to? - Subscriber base (about 30%?) Edit: I think it's less... - Owning some 0.0. pixels (which other people will be happy to take over) - Owning most of the T2 BPOs (which invention can compensate for) Or is that simply because they have enjoyed Eve that they somehow are powerful? If their resolution is so great, their focus so clear, then why are they troubled by any of these petty changes? I refer to the wealth they accumulated (and cannot be taken back when stored on NPC stations or in wallet). Don't you see that dreads, carriers and even mom's are kind of trivial nowadays ? What does that tell you about the gulf between newcomers and old players ? I refer to the ability to mass produce gear of all kinds, and specially the big stuff. Besides, invention is not profitable in 95% of the cases and BPO owners can crash the market at will, where and when it suits them. I refer to the leaders of all the important corps and alliances who are 99% vets. I refer to the knowledge of all the FC's who know how to pwn a max and loose a min. Etc... So, there should structurally be no impeachment for big alliances to negotiate a form of truce and reduce their attendance over a month in order to send a clear signal to CCP. That some noobs or undergunned & unskilled corps take advantage of this just to get their asses spanked as soon the protesters reattend the game is just a cherry on the cake. Frankly, if it's just against noob-based threats that classic alliances would have to maintain a reduced presence, with all due respect, 20% of their usual manpower would be more than sufficient...

DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:43:00 - [531] Crawling in my pod, this structure will not heallll
Kage Getsu Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:44:00 - [532] Originally by: N1fty If it helps to save a part of the community that I like. Yes. You should put some vaseline on your nose because if you rub it any harder it's gonna be real sore tomorrow. _________________________________________________________
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:45:00 - [533] Originally by: Drunk Driver This thread is silly. . CCP DEV Alt ^ SKUNK
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:45:00 - [534] Originally by: Mel Dareia I think some misunderstand the problem. This is not about Chribba, but about a feature of Eve that provided quite a bit of harmless entertainment for many, especially newer players. Something special. One of the many small things that added character to the game Seeing it deleted without a real reason is just...sad. noo...have you not read all the whines in this thread about saving a specific person's ship? Its not as though CCP has removed all capital ships from the game. Anyone can go get in a shuttle and head to 0.0 and eventually find one. How in the world did a capital ship add character to the game? It adds as much character to the game as 32round boxes of shotgun ammo did in Planetside. People had boxes of ammo stored and the company changed it to 16 rounds in a box. OMFG, if they removed those boxes of ammo from the game all would be lost. I'm sure theres other stupid little things that people think are just amazing but have nothing to do with the game other then its a left over from years before that never got tossed out. His ship won't be missed by anyone but the morons crying for him. New players won't give a damn about something thats didn't exist in the game since they started. Anyone that leaves eve over this is pathetic...so i hope they do leave instead of making empty promises. It didn't add anything to the game. Its not going to destroy the game. chribra isn't anything more then another player. Seriously theres sites and programs that I find far more useful then anything you guys have mentioned chirbra has done.Give them power over the game instead.
NickSuccorso Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:45:00 - [535] Originally by: N1fty All those saying "Chribba is just another player" are wrong. The fact that Chribba puts in huge amounts of time and money into the community as has been said. But whats not been pointed out is that as he has shaped significant aspects of the community. Because of this theres almost a Chribba brand now and the Veldnaught was a part of that. That brand is collectively owned by the community, as an idea of whats good about Eve. What I'm trying to say is that CCP didn't just remove a capital from highsec, they removed the communities flagship. I've been playing for 2.5 ish years. Played quite a lot in fact. I'd go so far as to say that I've put in a huge amount of time into the community, through my participation in it. Some might also argue that by paying for a couple accounts for a good amount of that time, I've also put a healthy sum of money into it also. I've been involved in some pretty important things in the history of the game to. If I make a post about how I'm losing my awesome forum meme (if I had one), I hope you'll support me just as vigorously now that you know my community credentials are in order.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:46:00 - [536] I'll try and keep this simple... If you think this thread is just about the Veldnaught being nerfed, you're wrong. This is about the devs focusing on adding content to the game to keep it in the MMO headlines, rather than fixing existing and widespread mechanics problems that affect almost the entire nullsec population. This is about trying to get new players into the game through expansions like Ambulation or FW rather than retaining vets, where one new account is equal to one old account (despite the fact it'll likely only be around a few months). This is about the destruction of flavor in the game, from the Alliance Tournament (arguably the Olympics of EVE) to the removal of artifacts like high-sec caps (while leaving in T2 BPOs, ofc ). Its about a lack of communication and respect coming from the devs, who'd rather give us a PR excuse for something they've done than tell us the truth upfront, and show us the respect we deserve (GTCs, anyone?). Its about dampening the dark and cold nature of EVE, where those who are lazy, stupid, or slow to adapt are penalized by those who utilize their intelligence and skills to stay with the times, from nanowarfare to suicide ganking to guerrilla warfare. And above all else, its about the lack of trust a large portion of this community has with the current set of uncommunicative, myopic, fresh devs that are running the game at this moment. But you know what? All of us are collectively wasting our breath on these forums, telling CCP how their head is up their ass, because they've stated that they don't really care what's posted on their own forums. Solely a small slice of the opinions that exist in-game, if I recall correctly - so, **** it. Any devs that are left, have fun making design decisions in the dark and not listening to community feedback because it doesn't represent the entire picture, or being two-faced when it comes to talking about us. I have better things to do than let you lot jerk me around anymore. PS: I miss you, Oveur. Football? Hell yes.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:46:00 - [537] Oops, I got trolled in a Chribba thread. :P Anyway, to sum up: Bring back the Veldnaught!
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:48:00 - [538] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 27/08/2008 14:48:24 Originally by: Semkhet I refer to the wealth they accumulated (and cannot be taken back when stored on NPC stations or in wallet). Don't you see that dreads, carriers and even mom's are kind of trivial nowadays ? What does that tell you about the gulf between newcomers and old players ? I refer to the ability to mass produce gear of all kinds, and specially the big stuff. Besides, invention is not profitable in 95% of the cases and BPO owners can crash the market at will, where and when it suits them. I refer to the leaders of all the important corps and alliances who are 99% vets. I refer to the knowledge of all the FC's who know how to pwn a max and loose a min. Etc... So, there should structurally be no impeachment for big alliances to negotiate a form of truce and reduce their attendance over a month in order to send a clear signal to CCP. That some noobs or undergunned & unskilled corps take advantage of this just to get their asses spanked as soon the protesters reattend the game is just a cherry on the cake. Frankly, if it's just against noob-based threats that classic alliances would have to maintain a reduced presence, with all due respect, 20% of their usual manpower would be more than sufficient... Let me point out: - Veteran isk wealth: If it disappears with them quitting, what does that matter? If it's in their wallets, it's not part of the economy. - What you've just asserted about BPOs has been disproven enough times before. - Leaders of important corps and alliances? Sir, this is a GAME. They are NOT important, even to the game. They are tyrants who are following their own desires. Someone else will replace them when they go. - The game will not crash and burn if a few hundred skilled FCs go - in fact, it may give the less experienced pilots a chance to actually enjoy parts of eve they're always strong-armed out of :P So to conclude, every point you tried to make is rubbish. "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died."
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:48:00 - [539] leave highsec capitals where they are for gods sake!
Sheihk Mahandy	Posted - 2008.08.27 14:49:00 - [540] Veld 1 Chribba 0



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