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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:44:00 -
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What's wrong with this forum section cannot be fixed by CCP.
Nobody can. It's the therapy room for the crazy raging fringe of the Eve community. They vent, they whine, they are unstoppable.
Oh and welcome to the 6th year of predicting Eves doom. ;-)
You're in the fine company of people being false about Eves situation and impending downfall since almost day 1.
There's nothing new - people have been whining and venting since the very first BS was built and for some reason they all tend to think that their pet peeves are universal in importance and acceptance and surely a sign of the final days of Eve.
I'm looking forward to the 10th year of Eves impending doom. ;-)
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Damage nerf, warp to zero, reduced price of cloning, jump clones etc; the list is filled with 'features' created in order to stop people from being discoured to continue to play on after they loose their stuff.
I'm so tired of people repeating the same BS again and again - without putting any thought in it.
* Damage nerf
I just checked - I can still deal damge. Quite a lot of it actually. No problem here.
* warp to zero
That replaced a zillion stupid BMs. Everybody who was serious had wt0-BMs for every route he needed. Meaning we already had WT0.
So you mainly could get uninformed newbies - proud of that?
And you still can find people being careless even with WT0.
You want to catch somebody? Put in some honest effort and place a bubble - or scan the system and find them ratting or mining. Just sitting at a gate and shooting at people who didn't know better and had to crawl 15 km? That's what you whine about? Sounds downright carebearish to me.
Also the introduction of bubbles meant that the 15 km distance was no longer needed to have fight zones.
* reduced price of cloning
The true price of getting pod-killed is loosing your implants.
What's your problem here?
* jump clones
It's a compromise because there were so many whining threads about people saying jumping is such a drag.
It also doesn't help you if you have to haul stuff. Get over it - not a problem.
None of the above changes harmed the game or made it less harsh where it really counts. Quite the opposite. Get over it.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Zulupark is actually reading/posting?
Hey, would you kindly ask the devs responsible for the technical aspects of the game go to over to the windows help forum and read up on all the unresolved issues that are not being addressed even after mass bug reports/petitions? This is game breaking stuff here.
It's game breaking for the few affected and I empathize.
But what you linked looks like problematic driver interaction and is hard to debug/fix and might very well be a problem in the driver that CCP cannot fix.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Glengrant
* reduced price of cloning
The true price of getting pod-killed is loosing your implants.
What's your problem here?
They might as well remove medical clones then (no SP lost when podded). I suspect that the original reason for having this thing is to make it hurt more when an older player gets killed, but as the cost is negligible now, it doesn't work. So the actual effect nowdays is that only people who forget to update or are trapped with their clone in a station without access to medical facilities are hit hard, which is kinda broken.
And where exactly is the change here?
The cost was *always* negligible. And it only ever affected people who got careless and forgot.
The very first thing I do after getting killed is buy a new clone. I take care what station I use.
I once got stranded in a station without medical in hostile territory. I negotiated an escort and free passage before leaving the station.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
We need the ability to completely restrict npc/alt corp posting from the political forums (CAOD/summit/C&P perhaps) and rather than having an eve account automatically able to post there you probably need to ask the Eve community manager for permission and rights (so human factor can bar obvious alt posting corps too) and if your members keep posting rubbish you should lose those rights.
Yeah - I wondered why this is moderated after the fact when all data that's needed to restrict alt posting is already there. Simply not allowing chars without corp ticker on CAOD (and similar RP restricted sections) would be a nice improvement even without extra human moderation for stupid alt corps. Would spare us the many "no alt posting allowed" comments too.
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Thus you'd have parts of the forums where you can post without corp/alliance tickers (general/help/techlab/markets/ships/etc) and parts where you cannot post without accountable corp/alliance affiliation. And posting with a corp / alliance ticker shows you are a trusted and responsible member of your corp/alliance and if you get warnings with those tickers shown the whole corp/alliance can be collectively sanctioned with temp bans.
Interesting ideas.
I already see the censorship threads - but other stuff is restricted by roles too and people will always have GD to post anything they want (just without corp/alliance info if not authorized by corp role).
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
accountable ingame. If you want to do anything, hold only the person who posts, accountable for what he posts. Anything else is too prone to abuse.
That's not true.
If alliance A members attack alliances B members usually that results in B setting the whole A alliance red and sometimes putting some extra effort into killing some A members as retaliation.
Same with corps. If corp A has members attacking corp B. Corp B might ask for reparation first from the pilots, then from As CEO. Finally B might declare war on A if negotiations didn't resolve the matter.
Corps and alliances are held accountable ingame for their members conduct all the time.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Forums are an account feature.
Only partly true at best.
All postings are done with the name of a selected character - not your account name or your real name.
Also some sections are RP restricted. It's simply more efficient to keep un-affiliated alts from posting on CAOD then having to enforce that after the infringement all the time.
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Glengrant
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Glengrant on 28/08/2008 16:09:55
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Glengrant
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Forums are an account feature.
Only partly true at best.
All postings are done with the name of a selected character - not your account name or your real name.
Also some sections are RP restricted. It's simply more efficient to keep un-affiliated alts from posting on CAOD then having to enforce that after the infringement all the time.
That is somewhat superficial. You log into the forums with your account. All the character selection does is change the name that pops up. And perhaps something could be done about the freedom to choose so easily there...
Very much not true. You think it doesn't matter if people read that Sir Molle is posting, or a goon or a member of an alliance that you're at war with?
Of course it matters - therefore your character, your corp and alliance info are not superficial.
And you should be free to post under any of your chars - just not where it's not allowed - like posting on CAOD without a corp name showing etc...
And restricting forum posting rights - at least in some sections via corp roles is at least worth considering.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I can't decide if you are kidding or not.
Jade wasn't kidding.
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
In all seriousness, I don't want to be responsible for the actions of my corp members. In fact, I disclaim all responsibility for them. They are all adults, and if you have issue with them, it's with them, not me or my corp.
I'm just saying that as a CEO I don't want that responsibility. I assume if you are playing EVE, you are an adult, take some personal responsibility FFS.
Of course your members are personally responsible.
*And* so are you for your corp and members too as a CEO. CEO means more than just having the power to make directors.
If your corp members mess up (like ganking my corp/alliance mates) and I can't get them to clean up their act I'll come to you and tell you that your corp is going to be set to red - which depending on the situation could lead to a number of unwanted KB entries.
Pretty much standard practice.
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