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davcin
Caldari
davcin Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: davcin on 29/08/2008 12:44:00
Edited by: davcin on 29/08/2008 12:43:21
I was going to post a topic like this when I notice this one.
And I completely agree with the OP!
124.99 USD and 499.96 USD each!!!
To expensive!
Make it 50-60 USD and you have a client that will buy them all!
As it is, no way.
ISK buying orders are accepted?
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5pinDizzy
Amarr
Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:56:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: LuckyStrike
If you have the money to waste on some kind of model collecting dust in your home,
why not rather do something good with it - Click me
Originally by: Harry Rotter
surely a sweat shop in **** could produce these models for about ú5 each???
YEAH!
I'll sponser a child if they make me a frickin model off an internet spaceship game!
I hear sweatshop children spend every waking hour of their day working on the product to assure you on absolute quality.
Tiny hands make intricate details!
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AltBier
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:13:00 -
[63]
They may be reasonably priced, but I have a load of other things I'd rather spend $100+ on. 
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:29:00 -
[64]
They are quite heavy resin models and are collectibles for desktop display rather than toys.
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Balder Dash
Caldari
Order of the Lamp
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:58:00 -
[65]
Is the top wingy bit on the Tempest removeable? |
Doctor Mabuse
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:00:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Meiyang Lee
they're resin casts, that stuff is relatively expensive. (especially since the moulds aren't nearly as reusable as high-pressure steel ones for plastic)
It's also capable of holding a great deal more fine detail, so it is probably safe to assume the models will be quite detailed.
From a friend of mine who makes resin models for tabletop wargaming:
"I think blaming a price of ú70 on the resin is a bit too much. I cannot
see that that amount of resin cost more the ú5 - as a comparison the
Large Sloop Pirate Ship I make is about 12" long and 4" wide and uses
about 800g of resin - this cost about ú1!
I would say the large costs are in the amount the Master Model cost to
have built (could be around ú1000 each), the cost of Painting the model
and then the labour cost of casting each model - say 1/2 hour per model.
The rubber cost for the mold would be probably at most ú50 and this will
make at least 100 models. The packaging and other sundries maybe cost ú5
being generous."
He also casts his models by hand, whilst I would have thought that CCP sub-contract this for more savings. All in all an expensive model.
Or perhaps its worth is what the market will pay? This is Eve after all...
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CCP Whisper
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:01:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Balder Dash
Is the top wingy bit on the Tempest removeable?
Theoretically it is. The Tempest requires some glue-less assembly, and the top wingy bit is part of the boom that has the bridge at the end. This part gets inserted into the hull and fits quite firmly. No wobble or looseness. The Tempest is probably the one model that you can therefore use to accurately simulate battle damage/Minmatar construction techniques.
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Supreme Feather
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:09:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Supreme Feather on 29/08/2008 14:08:58
mmm.. How come I can find pictures of faction model versions of the Megathron and Raven on the chineese EVE-O site sir dev?  .. Why can we 'only' have the standard versions?
Link
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I only take direct trade or Item Exchange after autions please (to prevent scams).
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Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:15:00 -
[69]
Originally by: 123GuessWho
lol look IRON failed ingame and turning into forum flamers
You can find CAOD over here ... 
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:23:00 -
[70]
People who are freaking out over the price need to understand that these are HAND PAINTED scale MODELS. NOT TOYS. They are for putting on a mantlepeince or on a shelf and looking at, not for playing with.
As a point of comparison, go HERE and look in "Statues and Models" at some of the prices. Then go to "Figures and Toys" and look at some of those prices.
The Statues are Ceramic and hand-painted. The Figures are PVC Plastic and machine painted. Notice the price difference? Despite the fact that many of them are the same scale (either 1/6 or 1/8) the Ceramic, hand painted statues are MUCH more expensive than the PVC ones. And even the PVC ones aren't cheap.
So getting a PVC and METAL scale model that is hand painted with a fancy stand for only 125 bucks US is a good deal. These things could easily have been much more expensive.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:26:00 -
[71]
Originally by: CCP Whisper
Theoretically it is. The Tempest requires some glue-less assembly, and the top wingy bit is part of the boom that has the bridge at the end. This part gets inserted into the hull and fits quite firmly. No wobble or looseness. The Tempest is probably the one model that you can therefore use to accurately simulate battle damage/Minmatar construction techniques.
Everything is "technically" removable
I love the word technically, it's like a calm way of saying "hell no" in certain situations.
"Honey, is it possible to remove the computer from the bedroom?"
"Technically."
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CCP Whisper
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:30:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Supreme Feather
Edited by: Supreme Feather on 29/08/2008 14:08:58
mmm.. How come I can find pictures of faction model versions of the Megathron and Raven on the chineese EVE-O site sir dev? .. Why can we 'only' have the standard versions?
Link
Those models were prizes awarded to the winners of the Serenity PvP tournament, and also a lottery draw for EVE merchandise that took place during the Walking in Stations presentation during ChinaJoy. I would hope that pictures of the four faction variants are available on the new EVE Store website once it launches.
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DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:58:00 -
[73]
Whooohooooo, one megathron coming my way as soon as the new shop opens. Next Domi and Ishtar please... :)
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
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Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.29 15:18:00 -
[74]
Have any of you actually BOUGHT a replica statue before?
Just go to a site like COMIC STATUES
A SMALL statue is $100, and I will tell you now, they are much smaller than the CCP models. For what they are, they are perfectly priced. It's not for everyone. It's a collectible, and priced as such.
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Glarion Garnier
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.29 15:36:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 29/08/2008 15:38:45
Edited by: Glarion Garnier on 29/08/2008 15:38:00
Originally by: CCP Whisper
Originally by: Supreme Feather
Edited by: Supreme Feather on 29/08/2008 14:08:58
mmm.. How come I can find pictures of faction model versions of the Megathron and Raven on the chineese EVE-O site sir dev? .. Why can we 'only' have the standard versions?
Link
Those models were prizes awarded to the winners of the Serenity PvP tournament, and also a lottery draw for EVE merchandise that took place during the Walking in Stations presentation during ChinaJoy. I would hope that pictures of the four faction variants are available on the new EVE Store website once it launches.
Since its been said that these are collectibles. Will there be limited amount of them and how many would that be? (how many will be produced and will CCP hold the right to produce more or is there are decided hard numebr) As in I bet these are gonna hold their value much better than the Dollar ever will 
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:02:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Chochos
Also, they did mention the painting is touched up by hand. Humans = Expensive.
A monkey could touch up paint.
Bad production line = need for touch ups
I could mold something better for less. I'm pretty disappointed in CCP, honestly.
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:11:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:31
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:11
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
...I could mold something better for less...
Then do it and take some Hi-Rez snaps, including scans of all your receipts and a complete work schedule so we can see EXACTLY how long it took you and post it all to prove it.
Otherwise you are just a stupid git shoveling manure.
In other words: Put up or shut up.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:21:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:31
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:11
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
...I could mold something better for less...
Then do it and take some Hi-Rez snaps, including scans of all your receipts and a complete work schedule so we can see EXACTLY how long it took you and post it all to prove it.
Otherwise you are just a stupid git shoveling manure.
In other words: Put up or shut up.
I must agree with Bish. If you really think you can make better models at cheaper prices, you will apparently have plenty of buyers. As for all you guys saying that its too much, don't buy it. I bet you think Ferrari's cost too much, are you protesting their prices?? Telling them to drop prices for more profit??? No, because you know its futile. CCP knows that at this price, plenty of people will be buying these models.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:31:00 -
[79]
Originally by: CCP Whisper
The Tempest is probably the one model that you can therefore use to accurately simulate battle damage/Minmatar construction techniques.
* Some assembly required. Duct tape not included.
I predict many wifely eyerolls and sighs in my future. That mega is calling to me.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:24:00 -
[80]
Question from elsewhere that I havent seen addressed at all:
Any idea if this is a limited production run or a permanent fixture in the EVE Store?
Also will these be available at Fanfest assuming they are not a limited run?
Thanks.
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Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:27:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Doctor Mabuse
From a friend of mine who makes resin models for tabletop wargaming:
"I think blaming a price of ú70 on the resin is a bit too much. I cannot
see that that amount of resin cost more the ú5 - as a comparison the
Large Sloop Pirate Ship I make is about 12" long and 4" wide and uses
about 800g of resin - this cost about ú1!
I would say the large costs are in the amount the Master Model cost to
have built (could be around ú1000 each), the cost of Painting the model
and then the labour cost of casting each model - say 1/2 hour per model.
The rubber cost for the mold would be probably at most ú50 and this will
make at least 100 models. The packaging and other sundries maybe cost ú5
being generous."
He also casts his models by hand, whilst I would have thought that CCP sub-contract this for more savings. All in all an expensive model.
Or perhaps its worth is what the market will pay? This is Eve after all...
News just in. Items cost more than the sum of their component parts. Who would have believed it, eh?
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Doctor Remulak
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:30:00 -
[82]
Sounds rather expensive for a toy, though it appears many nerds disagree.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr
Demonic Retribution
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:47:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Synapse Archae on 29/08/2008 17:47:38
Originally by: Doctor Remulak
Sounds rather expensive for a toy, though it appears many nerds disagree.
Thats because its not a toy. Did you not read the thread at all?
Originally by: CCP Garthagk
While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:20:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Reptzo
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:31
Edited by: Bish Ounen on 29/08/2008 16:11:11
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
...I could mold something better for less...
Then do it and take some Hi-Rez snaps, including scans of all your receipts and a complete work schedule so we can see EXACTLY how long it took you and post it all to prove it.
Otherwise you are just a stupid git shoveling manure.
In other words: Put up or shut up.
I must agree with Bish. If you really think you can make better models at cheaper prices, you will apparently have plenty of buyers. As for all you guys saying that its too much, don't buy it. I bet you think Ferrari's cost too much, are you protesting their prices?? Telling them to drop prices for more profit??? No, because you know its futile. CCP knows that at this price, plenty of people will be buying these models.
Way to assume. No, I think Ferraris are a work of genius. I believe them to be a collector's piece. I do not think resin is a collector's piece. $50 US, sure, I'd even buy one. But 125? Please.
I could make them, but then CCP could sue me for infringement.
Look, all I'm saying is that the industry we've been supplying with money for months and months should give a little back, not expect us to shell out even more money. Perhaps by offering players who can verify themselves a 20% discount from MSRP. Therefore by offering them at a reasonable rate (TO THEIR SUBSCRIBERS), they ensure more people buy them.
Oh, and it's resin. Not rocket science. Very simple to do, all you need is a sculpted model to get the ball rolling.
Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, I was merely pointing out that they are touched up by human hand most likely because the machines didn't complete the job properly. You're falling for a marketing gimmick. (n00bs)
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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TerrorBaBy
Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:34:00 -
[85]
Originally by: ZephyrLexx
it's a shame the faction ships come as a pack, why is that? what if I just want a navy raven? I gotta pay $500 for the set?
It is a marketting strategy. They know that if you could buy faction ships for the same as normal people would just want faction. However because $125 per model they know some people will think is highly expensive they can't raise the price because it could alienate those who are just on the boarder of whether to buy or not. Therefore if they keep the price the same but release them as a pack, those who want faction are forced to spend more, thus making CCP more money, and allowing them to feasbily keep the regular T1 versions in production.
That's how I see it anyway.
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Originally by: Constance Harme
It's like willfully getting into a car full of strangers and then being driven out to the woods and being shot.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr
Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.30 00:51:00 -
[86]
Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 30/08/2008 00:51:45
Is it just me or does the standard apocalypse look a bit... well:
Looks like some sick blotchy camel that fell in some oil, with a bent back.
Standard Apoc
Whereas not a 10/10 for my level of fussyness the Navy Apoc somehow looks a lot more accurate and respectable in it's picture. Definetely more buyable for me.
Navy Apoc
Am I wearing bear goggles?
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:00:00 -
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I saw this thread and had something to say.
$125 IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY
Indeed it must suck to be poor. Carry on gentlemen.
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VeroneaTT
Amarr
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.08.30 01:07:00 -
[88]
Originally by: LuckyStrike
If you have the money to waste on some kind of model collecting dust in your home,
why not rather do something good with it - Click me
STFU!
GTFO!!
Damn bleeding heart liberal, always a closet aristocrat in disguise. Can't believe you have a caldari portrait either...go reroll gallente
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Wildknight
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Posted - 2008.08.31 02:21:00 -
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i will be waiting to see some size refrence pictures before i decide to buy. 125 bucks for a model means it should be of a good size and detail.
bottom line, the initial pictures suck....
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Celiane Venture
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Posted - 2008.08.31 02:55:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Wildknight
i will be waiting to see some size refrence pictures before i decide to buy. 125 bucks for a model means it should be of a good size and detail.
bottom line, the initial pictures suck....
Yeah, perhaps CCP could hire Ron Jeremy to help provide a size refrence photo as to how long the sips are
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