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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2008.09.04 22:41:00 -
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... is overrated piece of ...
Erkk, I wish I didn't buy into the hype. :P
Black Hand.
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Elanai
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Posted - 2008.09.04 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Elanai on 04/09/2008 23:24:16
Quote: There's no real reason you need to progress to the next stage, just there's no reason to stay. By the time you reach the pinnacle of the stage, and prepare to move on to the next,you're so overwhelmingly powerful that only a few creatures can even kill you, and those are so big they're more of a wandering instant death factory. You can wander around collecting parts to make your creature look weird, but other than that, you've already unlocked the most powerful parts by the time you "level" so even that's just an exercise in aesthetics
But how's the multiplayer relations aspect? Surely that alone could create needs for specific designs, in time. I mean how good would an army of charmer creatures do against an army of blade swinging, claws clipping tribe? How do you balance out the mix between charming and agression on one creature? And Why? If you take Eve when it first started, people found out their own reasons to choose a specific fitting for a new situation. They probably had little idea at the start. I dunno, I wasn't there, I would've loved to be there when Eve started though.
So for spore, how is the fact of you putting only one claw on your creature's butt affect your aggression stats as opposed to having them on 2 front arms?
If this game feels like decisions aren't taken from a situation, I really don't get what people saw or thought they saw in it.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.04 23:22:00 -
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I put maybe 8 hours of gameplay into it and pretty much seen everything it has to offer. After this point, it's not more than a glorified screensaver merged with a very, VERY light version of "Elite". So... we waited 3 years for THIS to be the end-result of "a revolutionary game" promise ? Dissapointing.
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SHOPS || Mission rewards revamp || better nanofix
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Gojyu
Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.09.05 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: Gojyu on 05/09/2008 03:46:13
Originally by: Elanai Edited by: Elanai on 04/09/2008 23:24:16
Quote: There's no real reason you need to progress to the next stage, just there's no reason to stay. By the time you reach the pinnacle of the stage, and prepare to move on to the next,you're so overwhelmingly powerful that only a few creatures can even kill you, and those are so big they're more of a wandering instant death factory. You can wander around collecting parts to make your creature look weird, but other than that, you've already unlocked the most powerful parts by the time you "level" so even that's just an exercise in aesthetics
But how's the multiplayer relations aspect? Surely that alone could create needs for specific designs, in time. I mean how good would an army of charmer creatures do against an army of blade swinging, claws clipping tribe? How do you balance out the mix between charming and agression on one creature? And Why? If you take Eve when it first started, people found out their own reasons to choose a specific fitting for a new situation. They probably had little idea at the start. I dunno, I wasn't there, I would've loved to be there when Eve started though.
So for spore, how is the fact of you putting only one claw on your creature's butt affect your aggression stats as opposed to having them on 2 front arms?
If this game feels like decisions aren't taken from a situation, I really don't get what people saw or thought they saw in it.
There's really no need for balance. Collect enough dna and you've got a perfectly good death machine that can dance, sing, charm and pose with the best of them, all that's involved is just sticking random bits on your character, there's no need to stick them on your arms or anything like that. hell, there's no clipping, so you could pile every piece of your creature onto its left kneecap if you were so inclined
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.05 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 05/09/2008 04:06:20 Called it.
Said that I wouldn't buy into all the hype and that there's still the possibility that it wouldn't live up to it.
Name one game that lived up to the hype. X3 doesn't count.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Lendwill
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Posted - 2008.09.05 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 05/09/2008 04:06:20 Called it.
Said that I wouldn't buy into all the hype and that there's still the possibility that it wouldn't live up to it.
Name one game that lived up to the hype. X3 doesn't count.
Halflife 2
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.09.05 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lendwill
Halflife 2
I didn't find HL2 to be the super amazing game most people think it is. I mean it was incredibly well executed but far from revolutionary. Now revolutionary is Steam and Valve's support for mods.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 05/09/2008 04:06:20 Called it.
Said that I wouldn't buy into all the hype and that there's still the possibility that it wouldn't live up to it.
Name one game that lived up to the hype. X3 doesn't count.
What hype were you exactly trying to not buy in?
Spore turned out exactly like they said it would turn out. No one created a hype except some people who made up stuff that "will be in the game". Reread all the press releases, watch all the presentations (by wright himself), and you don't find any "broken promise", nor any kind of hyping.
I for one am finding stuff that they didn't talk about (specifically) before release, and i'm thoroughly enjoying it for what it is.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu Yeah. Having played it, I'm fairly dissapointed at the length. Each stage only seems to take about an hour to go through. You can't stretch that hour out either. Once you get to the end of the stage, you can kinda wander around, but there's really no point. Your actions in the stage play no major consequence in the next, and parts/upgrades you gather are rendered useless in the next stage
It's a sandbox and achievement game. That's like calling Unreal Tournament a bad game because it has no storyline. Ok, I lied there, UT does have a storyline, but it is crappier than a B film and you buy the game so you can frag people over teh interwebs.
I've personally went ahead and gone for as much achievements on the first playthrough as possible.
Spore does not spoonfeed you a story like for example Mass Effect, which was more like watching a good movie where you controlled the character. Spore is more like playing with clay when you were still in kindergarden and making up the entire story by yourself
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XenoPagan
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Posted - 2008.09.05 07:28:00 -
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Liking it so far. although have gotten just to the start of tribal phase (took my sweet time on creature phase) anybody has been able to kill any epic monsters on creature stage? they're tough with their 1000 hp and even my bundle of teeth gang couldn't swarm one
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Gojyu
Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.09.05 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath
Originally by: Gojyu Yeah. Having played it, I'm fairly dissapointed at the length. Each stage only seems to take about an hour to go through. You can't stretch that hour out either. Once you get to the end of the stage, you can kinda wander around, but there's really no point. Your actions in the stage play no major consequence in the next, and parts/upgrades you gather are rendered useless in the next stage
It's a sandbox and achievement game. That's like calling Unreal Tournament a bad game because it has no storyline. Ok, I lied there, UT does have a storyline, but it is crappier than a B film and you buy the game so you can frag people over teh interwebs.
I've personally went ahead and gone for as much achievements on the first playthrough as possible.
Spore does not spoonfeed you a story like for example Mass Effect, which was more like watching a good movie where you controlled the character. Spore is more like playing with clay when you were still in kindergarden and making up the entire story by yourself
That would be all well and good, if spore had compelling or interesting gameplay, however, while in my view unreal 3 does what it does well, spore shows that it has obviously been stretched too thinly. Personally, if I wanted to play the cell phase, I'd play flow, if I wanted to play the creature phase, I'd play wow, If tribal, any number of rts' and so on. Of course people's opinions will differ to mine, but I see spore mainly as a choice between completing a good game in 10 or so hours, or playing mediocre games for 20-30
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midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:07:00 -
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not buying as the copy protection in absolute shite, activate your key 3 times and it gets invalidated, **** that... EA always make there paying customers suffer, and this does nothing to deter the pirates, its already cracked and on several sites as we speak -----------------------------------------------
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gojyu That would be all well and good, if spore had compelling or interesting gameplay, however, while in my view unreal 3 does what it does well, spore shows that it has obviously been stretched too thinly. Personally, if I wanted to play the cell phase, I'd play flow, if I wanted to play the creature phase, I'd play wow, If tribal, any number of rts' and so on. Of course people's opinions will differ to mine, but I see spore mainly as a choice between completing a good game in 10 or so hours, or playing mediocre games for 20-30
Did you like the sims? I found that one to be pretty boring and stretched too thin until I actually began to understand the concept of sandbox games. I "finished" that one pretty fast too, but I had no interest in spending more time on it. Still I like spore a lot better. I guess in the end it boils down to personal taste. If everyone would like spore then EA would rule the world. I bet they wish they did.
You're right about the cell phase resembling flow, and all other resemblances for that matter. I think they even said at one point that flow was their source of inspiration for the cell phase.
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:10:00 -
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gave it a good solid 4 hour session and honestly could not get into it, its a good game all in all just not my kind of game, only rts type game i can stand to play for more than 2 hours at a time is soase
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fairimear
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:30:00 -
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Great fun to be had. Normally i play a RTs game through its story mode and then maybe for a normal amount of online or skirmish sessions.
Even in SoaSE my longest game was only 32 hours split over a month.
spore could easily clock up this i feel. So i am gonna go out on a limb and say its the best rts game made in the last 10 years. Simple or not. I personally look forward to EA's milking us with expansions on this one.
I think theres a massive amount of potential in expansions for spore.. Keep em at ú10 though and i wont cry.
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Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:32:00 -
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Oh *******s, maybe I should leave my copy in it's wrapper
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Evelgrivion
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:42:00 -
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The people who are going to love Spore are the kinds who enjoy creating things for the sake of creating things. Wil Wright has always created his games around that concept - Sim City let you create your own cities. The Sims let you create your own houses and families within them. Spore lets you craft an entire Species in a galaxy of virtually limitless scope.]
Were you expecting some masterful piece of design that was incredibly strategically deep to the point that it distracted from the vision of creating whatever you want? It's not something you buy to experience as a typical game. It is a toy.
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:15:00 -
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im a fan of the sim's (for what it was at the time which was orginal) i love sim city, and railroad tycoon etc etc
Gotta feeling il like this one, off in town to buy it now. So im hoping the ones that dislike it are just twitch gamers that cant get there fix unless somethings bleeding or has a big gun firing it at someone.
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Stephanie Jones
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:58:00 -
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I'm loving it so far but, as people have said, it's not the traditional game. And it's very obvious that they shipped it with the minimum of features so they could invoke "Expanshun!!!!" as many times as possible :)
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.05 13:29:00 -
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I've just had a go at it myself at a neighbor's place (yarr-ed edition, of course, the cheapstake he is) and I have to say, its the "easiest" sandbox to get into and have your own fun.
Definately not for some people who want the game itself to throw it something interesting from time to time. The point of Spore is, as Will Wright said it himself, to "let the players have their own fun".
Definately solidified my purchase of the game. Neighbor says he's getting the Galactic Ed soon as he can too. -
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.05 16:33:00 -
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I just bought the game. I got through the cell phase quite quickly, and am now in the creature phase. It's actually quite fun, although most of the actual enjoyment is in creating the creature and making it look cool. The game play is strictly average, but that said, there are 5 games here.
Of course, when my 3 installs are used up, I'll have to look into getting a crack for it. Don't suppose anyone knows how to get one? __________________________
Quote: ...bored, skint, no charter, and a ship that looks like an explosion in a girder factory...
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Ithaca
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.09.05 17:05:00 -
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Bought the Galactic Edition today, looking forward to getting home from the in laws to try it.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 05/09/2008 18:33:40 I got the game on the 4th downloaded it - played about 14hrs of it & am in the spacestage with half the weapons that you can get, its a very amazin game - & whats funny is ..
If you play say 10hrs without saving & die.. when you start all over again everything changes storyline the player models the missions etc etc - thats if you was to enter the next stage I was taken back to the RTS stage just before the spacestage bit of a tw ** but I noticed all my allys & what not had changed so had there missions :)
Its a really good sandbox to play around with - I will defo buy the game I think when I see what other bonus stuff you get from playin online - at the moment I play offline & its still very amazing.
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Everyone should at least play spore once!
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.05 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly I just bought the game. I got through the cell phase quite quickly, and am now in the creature phase. It's actually quite fun, although most of the actual enjoyment is in creating the creature and making it look cool. The game play is strictly average, but that said, there are 5 games here.
Of course, when my 3 installs are used up, I'll have to look into getting a crack for it. Don't suppose anyone knows how to get one?
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.09.05 18:52:00 -
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Got it today, wern't expecting much and i wasn't dissapointed. Played it from beginning got bored in middle of creature stage -> skipped to tribal. And bleh, thats it. Maybe ill pick it up tommorow with a set of fresh eyes, and who knows may play it to the end |
kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.06 02:36:00 -
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yeh the tribal and civ stages are shit imho. Cell, Creature and Space stages are good though.
Its trying to do it all and failing on the RTS tbh, but its a very clever game, reguardless of what Yatzee will say.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.06 13:26:00 -
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well with over 24hrs played on spore & my eyes are bloodshot!
I have over 10million credits great trade connections & pretty much all the guns for the spaceship now - I think you could do the whole space stage in 3hrs solid if ya tryed I got kinda bored tho & needed sleep - I only got the odd bits to unlock now.
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fairimear
Gallente S.A.S Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:41:00 -
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OK i am up to space stage and have all but the planet buster. even though i am a aggressive civ i have found that buying planets can be very effective as combat in the early stages of space can be very very hard. and almost impossible to capture hostile planets (on hard mode ).
There has been a lot of comments of how the constant pirate attacks and eco disasters are annoying. if u do them though u unlock stages of badges (skills) that let u access better equipment. also if u have a stable area of space with allies around u or just no hostiles or neuts u will lower the amounts of these.
weapons at the end stages of space can be overpower full. there is no real need for the PB.
What i want and need in a expansion:
1: space empires should be able to seed a new planet. Doing this effectively pauses space stage and takes you back to cell stage. You then play a open ended version of each previous stage where you have a req amount of dna/food/tribe kills ect to adv to next stage. by killing other species/tribes you lessen competition in next stage.
KEY:Other species on your planet can advance at on rate into what ever stage. If you FAIL to reach civ before the other species and they then kill u (to bad and back to your space empire you go and have to try again).
2. Space station once you reach a set point (t3 eco with 3 colony's) you can deploy a space station. This fully protects that planet from pirate attack and eco disaster. and will hold of upto large hostile fleets.
3. For pure fun.
Sun Buster. Causes a supernova. Wipes the system off the map.
that would be my personal list for a first expansion.
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Amandin Adouin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.06 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 06/09/2008 22:58:08
I really want to play this game tonight and I can't seem to get my ports configured for downloading the torrent. Seein as there's so many of you unhappy with it/sitting around with unopened boxes, I don't suppose there's any south florida players around who want to sell me a copy . I couldn't convince the GameStop guy to do it .
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:51:00 -
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Well after gettin a massive bug - from starting a new save game file my Spore was errored out lost everything had to totally remove & reinstall starting all over again.
Anyways did that shot to the space stage pretty quick la la la ,
got everything weapon wise & just gettin the last 2 or 3 mess around creature effects.
Got 15million credits, about 9 allies & only 1 war target who will soon be destoryed. I think I have finished the space stage? Nothing else I can do now.. dont need Credit got all the fancy weapons.
What I really want is to be able to change a planet & go back & play it as a normal creature instead of bein stuck in the space stage I would like to make my own planet + tree's etc etc & play it! :)
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