also +1 for the consumable gate keys ... just make it so that the gate locks after 2 minutes so gang can jump in some reasonable time frame.

Loot from complexes is fine. RNG is RNG, sometimes you win and sometimes you don't. Last week one night I ran 8 GSO's. The first six had nothing but OPEs and trash loot. Right after telling myself "after next site I'm going to bed" I ran one more and got a shield booster and invuln field, 850 mil just like that. The unpredictability of exploration is what keeps it fun for me, you just never know when you're gonna make it big.

That said, if there was anything I could change to exploration it would be those awful mag sites (speaking for high sec, supposedly low sec ones got buffed but I'm not comfortable with low sec exploration quite yet). Very very rarely will I get a piece of T2 salvages; normally it's nothing but malfunctioning shield emitters, smashed triggers and the like. I think I've read that the average yield of a high sec radar are from 6-8 mil. What's the harm in buffing mags to at least that level of average yield?

Remove salvage from missions. Increase salvage drops in mag sites as necessary to keep supply on market similar.

Instant boost to mag sites.

You wrote all that and didnt answer my question. I'm asking why you think there needs to be a change in the drops. You've yet to state why. I don't care that we have different opinions. But at least be able to give reasons for yours. I think things are balanced just fine. You don't. You should say why.

The only way I could see things being changed is high sec = c-type mods, low sec = b-type mods, null = a/x type mods. Faction mods in all 3.

Also, selective reading much? I said your guide was good for showing noobs the potential, but its ultimately irrelevant because....youre an experienced explorer.

I just realized you are actually saying that high sec explorations should remain in high sec (as in they should always end in high sec).

Yeah I disagree with that. Sending people to low sec helps expand their horizons and experience. And open them up to new things. Challenge them. Add a bit of risk. Forces the question "is it worth it?"

These are good things.

No you're throwing me off with your grammar.

lol, you will be even more confusing I guess, if I start writing in German or Russian.

But what is the point to waist a time for peanuts, especially when other opportunities exists, like 4/10?

Just talking about makes this sites more attractive for people, so they decide to go there, I mean low-sec. Get great rewards, escape back to hi sec, fly to Juta, and feel themselves as real heroes.

The watch has the 3/10 loot table. Its just the way eve works - frigate stuff is available in highsec.

The vigil is the natural thing you should compare against a 4/10, as those are cruiser table encounters, and yes there are tasty reasons for following a vigil to low.

Uniformity is entirely unnecessary in payout odds for exploration and the payout odds reflect market dynamics anyway. Lack of uniformity is actually important as knowledge is part of what explorers seek and exploit. ie you are currently a more effective explorer for income (if not for fun) if you ignore some encounters, and there is nothing wrong with that. I enjoy doing the different encounters and that negatively affects my income but I just do not care.

The loot table itself on the last step of a vigil is more valuable than a ded 4, its cruiser a-type vs cruiser c-type. I know serp c-types are falling in value despite the general inflation ingame, so the relative value of all the escalation effort may change in the future relative to the non effort involved in a ded4.

IMO the main problem with 4/10s is that some can be cheesed, which makes the relative value of having a semi-safe private escalation bookmark less when you can just go in and kill 1 npc in a public sig.

Last step of vigil is a-type smalls (frigates).

IMHO they need to add more frigs to the Gurista 3/10, that site takes way too quick to finish.

get out, thats stupid as hell

care to explain why ? sure people can spawn camp those, but I do have a pile of different pass keys that I don't actualy need ... and they are worth exactly nothing .... but I have to loot them every time I do a site just because some noob can come by without one at it buys me some time .....

Empire faction sites would be pretty cool, things like "Secret Caldari Navy staging operation" in Branch or "Hidden Amarr Navy ambush" in Delve etc etc.

Empire faction sites would be pretty cool, things like "Secret Caldari Navy staging operation" in Branch or "Hidden Amarr Navy ambush" in Delve etc etc.

The one thing that springs to mind is that the DED complex system is still incomplete, which is why for example the Gistum A-Type invul (selling now at about 850mill in Jita) drops in the Angel 4/10 in highsec - a site than can be completed inside 15 minutes in a Drake


CCP are gradually seeding in new DED stuff. But until consistent grades of DED & unrated complexes exist across all factions and all security, I don't think its useful to try to "fix" anything. In the meantime, experienced explorers will continue to cash in.