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NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.02 15:11:00 - [1] LOL, those who say that Minmatar doesn't need a boost might have an exploded brain already, because they can't use it to anything. Minmatar is the race that absolutely need a boost now. Well i'm not saying Minmatar is crap, i'm saying they are pretty ok, but could need a little boost anyways.
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 04:03:00 - [2] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 04:04:03 Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Blasterboats - does anyone think its a bit funny that a missiles destroy things at close range while "short ranged" guns are almost helpless? Compare a blaster mega vs. a torp raven against.... anything and you will see the joke. It just gets worse as the target gets smaller. Boost Gallente and stop the racism! Flame on -GV LOL, i have one thing to say to you. Use a good t2 setup instead of all the junk setups that insta fail. It's the same for the Tempest, so many fails at fitting a Tempest with a good setup today that it's just amazing how stupid peoples can be. My Tempest setup is pretty dangerous to Raven pilots. But then, if i meet a very skilled and a pretty nice fitted Raven, then i might not be able to kill him. But how many pilots like that do you see today?. Anyways. Those who says boost Gallente just fail at using their ships right. I can agree that if the web and speed nerf that was on sisi earlier hits TQ, then i can agree that Blasters and Autocannons need a little boost in tracking. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 16:40:00 - [3] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 16:40:31 Originally by: Aedor Edited by: Aedor on 13/09/2008 12:51:45 Signed! Gallentes are bad in everything now :( Blasters needs boost, i remember we were talking about that since the long long time ago... And personally i would suggest to replace Hyperion's armor repairer bonus with something else, like Armor Hitpoints or anything... Wow, you really don't have a clue on what your talking about. 1st, train more of your Gallente skills before you cry omgomgomg boost Gallente because i'm to damn lazy to train skills. 2nd, why are there mostly players on this topic without a corp showing or players in npc corps that cry boost Gallente?. Hmmm, does that tells me that most of you here don't have a ****ing clue on what your talking bullshit about. The Gallente battleships is not like just train some few basic skills to be able to use a Megathron with the basic fits and then think you can be god in PVP with the ship. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 21:43:00 - [4] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 21:44:14 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX 1st, train more of your Gallente skills before you cry omgomgomg boost Gallente because i'm to damn lazy to train skills. Is 30M SP enough to say "boost Gallente"? No, i have over 51 mill skillpoints in Minmatar and Gallente and i know who needs a boost or not. Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX 2nd, why are there mostly players on this topic without a corp showing or players in npc corps that cry boost Gallente?. Hmmm, does that tells me that most of you here don't have a **ing clue on what your talking bullshit about. Just an FYI, but a sisi only PVP'er shouldn't tell people in NPC corps that they don't have a clue. Additionally, I myself was recently in an NPC corp for ~6 months... and I damn sure have a clue. Well, but how many peoples like that is here now?, not many i can say for 100% sure. And about the sisi pvper. I think you have forgot to see the awesome 1 vs 1 fight i had against Gasi here on TQ some few weeks ago: LINK. Those who says i'm a sisi pvper now are soooooooo 2+ years ago. Originally by:** Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX The Gallente battleships is not like just train some few basic skills to be able to use a Megathron with the basic fits and then think you can be god in PVP with the ship. So do you have more of a clue about how to use the Megathron than the Tempest? Oh, wait, let me guess: you thought the Apoc was totally fine before it got boosted. I for sure have a clue on how to fly both the Megathron and Tempest. But i'm using Tempest atm. And no, i have never said i like Apoc. And will never say it either. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 22:09:00 - [5] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 22:09:54 Whatever Liang Nuren. The race that need to be boosted first is Minmatar IF there is a race that REALLY need to be fixed. Don't even think about touching Gallente ships before the Minmatar ships have been fixed to some points. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 22:59:00 - [6] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 23:01:14 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 13/09/2008 22:09:54 Whatever Liang Nuren. The race that need to be boosted first is Minmatar IF there is a race that REALLY need to be fixed. Don't even think about touching Gallente ships before the Minmatar ships have been fixed to some points. What the bloody hell. I'm practically the poster child for reasonable arguments for boosting Minmatar and Gallente. There's nothing wrong with persuing a boost for both simultaneously. -Liang It really depends on what you want as a boost to Gallente. But still, Gallente doesn't need a boost atm. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 00:09:00 - [7] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 00:10:06 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX It really depends on what you want as a boost to Gallente. But still, Gallente doesn't need a boost atm. Right now, Gallente is dangerously weak compared to Amarr and Caldari. LOL, seriously, have you ever seen what a really nice fitted Megathron + a very skilled Megathron pilot can do to a Raven or a Geddon, or a Tempest to?. If those ships get into that Mega's web range to a very experienced Megathron player, they melt really fast. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 00:43:00 - [8] LadyLubU2, i'm not talking about IF the web and speed nerf hit TQ. i'm talking about now, like it is now. As the things is NOW, Gallente doesn't need to be boosted. But yeah, IF the web and speed nerf hit TQ, then all large guns need a boost to tracking, i can agree to that. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 10:56:00 - [9] Originally by: LadyLubU2 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 00:45:53 LadyLubU2, i'm not talking about IF the web and speed nerf hit TQ, i'm talking about now, like it is now. As the things is NOW, Gallente doesn't need to be boosted. But yeah, IF the web and speed nerf hit TQ, then all large guns need a boost to tracking, i can agree to that. I am sure this is the reason for the post actually, because the patch will arrive soon(tm) But if that's the case, why only boost Gallente then? and not the others. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 11:35:00 - [10] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 11:35:41 Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Edited by: Gabriel Virtus on 14/09/2008 11:04:27 Originally by: NightmareX Anyways. Those who says boost Gallente just fail at using their ships right. I mean, it is cute the way you try and claim that anyone who complains about Gallente not being balanced just fails at using their own ships, but you are wrong. I am guessing you also claim anyone who says ECM is broken, just doesn't know how to counter it. (laugh) Kill a cruiser sized ship in a blasterthron. Then kill the same target in a torp raven. Torp raven destroys any sized target at <30km, the blasterthon cannot hit the target at any range with t2 or not. Do you even fly gallente? I am guessing not, otherwise you would shut up and sign the petition yourself. Originally by: NightmareX But if that's the case, why only boost Gallente then? and not the others. This might apply if this was a boost gallente, ___________, and _________, but it is not. Flame on -GV If you use the Gallente ships right, there is absolutely no problem with the ships. It's the same with the Tempest for example. All i see is that some newbcakes are crying that the ships sucks terribly, BECAUSE they sucks at using the ships like they are meant to be used. And no, even when a Raven can kill a cruiser fast at 30 km doesn't mean others have to do it either. Every race have their advantages over other ship races. And yeah, i think my 4 and a half year and 51+ mill SP in EVE can tell me what's good and what's not so good in EVE. I know what i'm talking about. What about you, you don't even know how to enable your corp name on this forum. How do you expect me to think that you know much in EVE then?. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 12:10:00 - [11] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 12:16:06 Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 12:10:48 Gabriel Virtus, so you mean that a Megathron that does over 200 DPS more than my Tempest at it's optimal range is not enough?. Gabriel Virtus, you seems to have no clue on what your talking about. And if your not stupid as you say you aren't, then why do you think we are talking about showing the corp names on the forum?, is it because you looks like a newb?. or is it because 96% of all players on this forum that doesn't have the corp name enabled here are alts or newbs?. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 12:32:00 - [12] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 12:34:21 Originally by: Gabriel Virtus Ships that can shoot to 35km should not be doing more damage than very close ranged guns... That is it kiddo. That's your problem, you think that Blasters should do more DPS than torps in that way. It's wrong to think like that. And if you think Gallente is underpowered that way, then what the hell is Minmatar then?, they most be totally broken to pieces then. So, i think Minmatar need to be fixed LOOOOOOOONG time before they start to fine tune some of the Gallente ships. But let me ask you a question here. Have you seen the movie Way Of The Warrior II by Gods?, have you seen what a dual LAR tanked mega can do to ships there?. Watch the movie and you will see what i'm talking about. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 12:43:00 - [13] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 12:43:21 Originally by: Gabriel Virtus I am saying that close ranged guns should do more dps at those close ranges than longer ranged weapon systems... at the same ranges the close range guns can hit and then for much longer. I think that blasters should do more damage at 5km than torps can do at 30km, but torps can do more damage at 5km. I dont see how that is so ridiculous? Can you tell me how this is going to work. Gallente: Does most DPS at optimal range that is like around 4-5 km. Doesn't do so much DPS at 30+ km. Caldari: Torps / Cruise missiles does the same DPS at all ranges. How are you going to make torps or cruiser missiles to change to lower DPS after how long they fly? Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 13:09:00 - [14] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 13:09:54 But when the Megathron or Hyperion or whatever other Gallente blaster ship does most DPS at 4-6 km, then it's still the ultimate close range weapon / ship, right? Like it was told longer up, at 4-6 km a Mega does around 70 DPS more than a Geddon and around 100 DPS more than a Raven. And for me, that's good enough. Take the DPS for blasters higher than that in 4-6 km range, it might make the Blasters pretty much overpowered. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 17:07:00 - [15] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 17:15:52 Originally by: LadyLubU2 Im sorry to say this Nightmare, but please stop posting in this thread because it is obvious you dont know what the whole point is. Im not trying to be mean or whatever, but you just dont get that this whole boost-scenario is more or less placed after the nanonerf kicks in. If you would log in to the testserver and try a mega, you will understand why. Like i haven't tested a Megathron there for over 2 years there already. I have even tested out Kronos there to. So i know EXACTLY how those 2 ships are. And as it is now, nothing need to be changed for Gallente. The only thing that need to be changed if the speed and web neft hit TQ is to give all large guns better tracking, but hey, it that to give only Gallente a boost?, no it isn't. Since all gets the same tracking boost, then we will be at the same thing except for that all large turrets have got a better tracking. You see the point?. And yes i see the whole point in this topic. And the whole topic is omg CCP, please give me an uber solo pwn machine that even newbs can be uber awesome in. That's what i see. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:03:00 - [16] Edited by: NightmareX on 14/09/2008 22:04:47 Ok, so why post with an alt when you know your so right about the Mega then? huh. As long your posting with an alt, your taken as a newb that doesn't know shit. It's like that and will be like that forever. Just adapt to that. You deserve to get smacked and called noob for using an alt. And then you said this: Coming back to your post, it has NOTHING to do how the blasterships where the last couple of years. Its about how the blasterships WILL BE after the nerf hits TQ.. Like i have said earlier, the only boost Gallente need after that will hit TQ, is to get a tracking boost. It simply don't need more. Gallente battleships are pretty balanced as it is now. And will be it after the web and speed nerf to, except for the tracking. Now you said this, and omg, this proves that your so dumb: To give all large turrets a tracking boost? And make amarr battleships even more powerfull compared to gallente/minmatar ships? Yeah, good solution you have there... First of, the turrets who actually have best tracking with all skills at level 5 is Blasters, and this is when the turrets are fitted on the ships. Second after that is Autocannons and then Lasers. So how is that going to help Amarr much when we Gallente and Minmatar still have the best tracking over Amarr?. Minmatar and Gallente will still be best in tracking an will have the best hit quality. Also Lasers have the poorest tracking, but when they hit good, they hurt. On my Tempest, the guns is not what hurt most, it's my dual heavy neuts and ECM that hurts, because those can ** you up seriously. Doesn't help to have a 1500 DPS ship with an uber tank when you can't shoot or rep your ship, also with no cap. And Megathron have the best tracking with Blasters and hit damn good on webbed targets in optimal range that are not so fast. And no, i still dont see your point. Like Liang stated before, you should actually log on the testserver and TRY the ships if you can fly them.**. Like i also have said, i have been using a Megathron for over 2 years on sisi to now, and i still say it. Megathron is FINE. I did try the Megathron out ALOT when the speed and web nerf was on sisi, and the only problem the Mega had there was the tracking. Tha same is for Tempest with Autocannons. I had the Megathron Federate Issue for some months on sisi some mirrors back, and was fighting a Pilgrim when the web and speed nerf was on sisi. He had 2x Tracking Disruptor II's on me, and i was still able to hit him, but not good enough to break his tank. So i still agree if that goes to TQ, all large guns need a boost in tracking. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 00:23:00 - [17] Originally by: LadyLubU2 Ok, but now a simple question: What is the point of using a ship that pumps about 1.3k dps at 5km, over a ship that deals about 1.1k dps at around 30km+, especially because maneuverability is going to be MUCH harder for the first, not to mention it relies more on web wich is going to be nerfed heavy as well? Are you actually wondering why the smart people in this game are training up for T2 large pulses and amarr battleship 5? About the simple question. I both know CCP and also know how missiles and that works in real life. Missiles will always hit with max damage on targets as long the targets doesn't move to fast. It's like that in real life to. So why not have it like that in EVE then?. And if CCP will have it like that, then turrets will never have that advantage like missiles have over turrets. The advantage turrets have is instant damage. You have to wait before you can hit with missiles. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 03:18:00 - [18] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 03:25:50 LOLOL, sorry noobs, i wont sign this topic just so newbs can fly around and be the king of DPS / PVP in a Megathron. This is what the topic is about. Just omg halp, CCP please boost the Megathron so i don't have to train so many skills, because i'm uber lazy. I have a damn good example on why a Megathron is very good. Earlier on sisi with the speed and web nerf, i was fighting a Pilgrim in my Megathron Federate Issue. The Pilgrim had 2 damn ****ing tracking disruptors on me, and still i managed to hit him while he orbited me at 5km and around 300 m/s. I took him down to structure and then i went out of cap. If that's not good enough, then i don't know why. But for me, that's just insane to hit a target like that while getting dual td'ed by a Pilgrim at that speed in orbit around me. Yes i couldn't MWD away either, because the disabling MWD thing on the scrams was there then. Just say whatever you like, but still, Megathron / Blasters is fine. And i seriously mean it to. EDIT: And while i remember it. What's the point by boosting damages to turrets anyways?, wasn't the HP boost on all ships meant to make ships last longer in fights?. If it's a yes to that, then why boost damages?. Or tbh, if there really are a turret that need to be boosted in damage, it's Autocannons. So we can get Autocannons up a little so it can get up to what the other races can get in damage etc. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 10:58:00 - [19] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 11:00:59 Cpt Branko, i agree that Artilleries need bigger clip size and better tracking. But i still think Artilleries need a little more damage to. Autocannons are already ok, but could always need a little damage boost, it's all Autocannons need tbh. And to those 3 alt posters before Cpt Branko on page 7. Go screw your self. I'm not listening to clueless alts / noobs. And to Tascaithos. I agree to what you said. You actually did see what i have been telling for a long time in this topic. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:18:00 - [20] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 13:20:42 LadyLubU2, you really are trying to look pretty dumb or what?. If over 2 years with a Megathron don't give me pretty good experience on how the ship is, then i don't know. But one thing is for sure, a Megathron still don't need to be boosted atm. The only boost that is needed after an eventually web and speed nerf is coming is tracking. But to the question you asked: What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account?. LOL, peoples that ask questions like this is really stupid. Torpedoes are torpedoes, and they can't just change the torps or guns just because one of them have a range advantage with nice DPS over one. And no, i don't have alts. Or i have a 2nd account with a character there, but that account is innactive. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 14:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Delichon But in 99,99(9) cases saying you can solo in BS in nullsec is BS. You haven't seen what Gasi and Gods are doing in low sec right?. They are 96% mostly solp pvping in low sec in Megathrons. Watch the movies from them, and you will see why Solo pvp is not dead and wont be death either as much you guys are trying to tell. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:19:00 - [22] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:26:22 OMG LOL, all of the alts or noobs who are trying to prove that they know so much more than me, waaaaah welp. And LadyLubU2, how many times have i told you that i have been using a Megathron on sisi for over 2 years there already?. I have tested every damn bit that is needed to test about the Megathron to now. I know how the ship works. Like i know how the Tempest works. And you said: You really arent wondering why the elite trains for t2 pulses and amarr battleship 5 right now? Bet you are too ing stupid for that.. Do you really know why so many are doing it, because there is so many uberfail players out here in EVE that just goes to the race who are a lil better than another race, because they just want to be the best race until it gets nerfed to hell and back again, so i can laught my ass of. I'm still good with the race / ships most of you says is the crappiest bs race, aka Minmatar, but hey, there is only stupid players who are going to other races because they fail terribly at using one race right. And i still know that the Megathron is fine. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:31:00 - [23] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:34:57 So your saying that if everyone use the Tempest for example right and make it to work pretty good as my Tempest works with my experience and skills, it's still crap?. LOL just LOL. The thing with the Tempest is that you have to use the 100% right setup, and you need to use the ship 100% right to before it gets any good, if you don't do that, you will auto fail in the ship. Adapt to that, it's how it is. And this is also why so many fails with the Tempest, because most gives up on the ship and just fail more by going to another race. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 15:42:00 - [24] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:02:00 - [25] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 16:06:20 Originally by: LadyLubU2 Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 15:45:24 Only the stupid ones and noobs thinks i'm wrong. Ask any very experienced Megathron pilots if they need any boost except for the tracking boost that actually all large guns when the speed and web nerf is coming. You will get the same answers as i have been telling all the time here. OMG, like i care about what those noobs and stupid peoples have to say, yeah really. So if we all are stupid noobs and other things, and you are pretending to be mr uber himself, just answer my question without making any senseless comment about missiles. I bet you are still to stupid to answer it, because you only can say 'OMG lol stupid alt look me im ubar 52m sp lol noob', 'omfg u phail noob bcuz i has sp and a federate thron on sisi wich makes me>you lulz'. Now if you are the pro your pretending to be (), answer my question i have stated 2 times to you and you still didnt aswer. So only because i have owned a Megathron Federate Issue on sisi makes me uber?, wow just wow. You can see a picture of the ship here if you wanna look: Megathron Federate Issue. With that setup i was pushing out around 1.2k DPS before overload. And the tank was uhm well awesome. All i was telling that i had a fight against a Pilgrim in that ship and was still able to hit him when i had 2x Tracking Disruptor II's on my ass. What is the point of using a ship that pumps out 1.3k dps at 5km over a ship that pumps out 1.1k dps at 30km, especially when your going to take the webnerf, scrambler changes AND ALOT LESS MOBILITY FOR BATTLEHSHIPS into account? 1st, that is how it is now on TQ, except for the mass and agility changes. But like CCP have told, they are going to change the Missiles and that a bit before they will release the web and speed nerf on TQ. So the only thing i have to say here is, wait and see what's happening. 2nd, no one except for CCP knows how the Heavy Missiles, Cruise Missiles and Torps etc will be now. So before you know it, all Torps and Cruiser Missiles and the other missiles have been changed drasticly before it hit TQ. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 16:33:00 - [26] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 16:36:15 Your coming with those senseless arguments about missiles again. WE DONT CARE HOW MISSILES GET CHANGES, WE ARE DISCUSSING THE STATE OF BLASTERSHIPS AFTER THE NERF. I'm talking about the blasterships after the nerf idiot, i'm trying to tell your damn little nut brain that Blasters don't need to be boosted after the nerf, because missiles are changed after the nerf. Don't you get it idiot? But still talk like you know so much, when your not, because talk to the hand cuz the face aint listening fool. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:17:00 - [27] Well yeah, it can get nasty and bad when someone have to use alts against me, it will absolutely not get any better by doing that. But about the 0m tracking hole. Yes that is something that need to be looked at i think. But that's somerhing that doesn't only are for Gallente though. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:32:00 - [28] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 20:35:12 It doesn't have anything for me to say whatever the reason is, alts is alts, and you deserve to get smacked to hell and back for using one on the EVE forum, specially in topics like this. Why not use the main character instead?. I'm not gonna use a locator agent on your main character and then come to your system and kill you. Any sign of using alts means that you might be terribly wrong on what we are talking about, so you don't have to look like an idiot with your main because you failed hard about something. Not sure if you have seen it yet, but i started like over a year ago to go hard against alts. But for me, i'll use my main that is me to everything. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:40:00 - [29] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 20:40:05 Liang, that post wasn't directly meant to you, it was mostly meant to the alts in this topic. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:43:00 - [30] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 20:44:46 Liang, it's long time since i took you as an alt. Lots of things can change drasticly in EVE in just 2-3 months heh. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:50:00 - [31] RL death threats over posting on Eve-O. Seriously?. That's pretty ****ing stupid to get something like that. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:58:00 - [32] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 20:59:50 Nah it wasn't a convo. I just said the death threats is just way way way stupid. Oh yeh, i also have been logged in on TQ the whole day today after the downtime. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 23:21:00 - [33] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 23:25:22 Originally by: Reuqh Dew Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 11:00:59 And to those 3 alt posters before Cpt Branko on page 7. Go screw your self. I'm not listening to clueless alts / noobs. Who you calling an alt/noob, noob? Common sense fails if you don't have 30mil+ SP? You are between those 2 others i'm talking about on page 7. But hey, now you enabled your corp name and alliance name, and then ask this now lol. You didn't had that enabled when i said that. And while i remember it, do you really know how powerfull a Megathron with Neutrons is with a faction fit?. It's so powerfull that i'm about to call the ship overpowered. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 23:28:00 - [34] Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 23:28:52 I would really like to have so much time to check all players that doesn't have corp or alliance name enabled on the forum ingame to check if they are in a real corp or in an alliance or not, but i don't. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 23:39:00 - [35] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 23:28:52 I would really like to have so much time to check all players that doesn't have corp or alliance name enabled on the forum ingame to check if they are in a real corp or in an alliance or not, but i don't. The obvious answer to this is simply to stop caring what corp/alliance they're in. This is S&M, not CAOD. :-) -Liang For me it have alot to say, but that's just me though. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 00:17:00 - [36] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 15/09/2008 23:28:52 I would really like to have so much time to check all players that doesn't have corp or alliance name enabled on the forum ingame to check if they are in a real corp or in an alliance or not, but i don't. My corp isn't a recognized corp, and I'm not in an alliance, does that mean I'm an alt? Seriously some crap you post just blows my mind. Did i say that if you don't are in an alliance then your an alt?. No i haven't. The thing i was telling that if your in an NPC or in an alt corp, then it's something else. And i wouldn't say that you Astro are in an alt corp either. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 13:48:00 - [37] Well, you can call Gallente in general obsolete, but that doesn't mean the Megathron or Blasters are obsolete to. Saying a megathron or Blasters need a boost is just ridiculous, it's way way over the top to say that. Megathron is a feared beast in close range fights, and it will be it forever. But whatever. Before CCP should touch Gallente or Amarr, they should fix Minmatar a little waaaaaaaay way long time before they start to fine tune or change something on Gallente or Amarr. Minmatar have needed a little boost for many years already. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 14:52:00 - [38] Edited by: NightmareX on 16/09/2008 14:55:08 Originally by: Theron Gyrow Edited by: Theron Gyrow on 16/09/2008 14:00:25 Originally by: NightmareX Well, you can call Gallente in general obsolete, but that doesn't mean the Megathron or Blasters are obsolete to. Indeed, calling them obsolete doesn't make it so. The facts do, however. In 95% of the situations a well-fitted torp Raven will outperform a equally-fitted Blasterthron, fleet or solo (not that solo matters much nowadays, but even if did, Raven does it better). Originally by: NightmareX But whatever. Before CCP should touch Gallente or Amarr, they should fix Minmatar a little waaaaaaaay way long time before they start to fine tune or change something on Gallente or Amarr. Minmatar have needed a little boost for many years already. Yes. Tempest is about balanced with Mega, so it is also a seriously bad choice nowadays. However, this is a "boost Gallente" thread. I will first start with this question: Indeed, calling them obsolete doesn't make it so. The facts do, however. In 95% of the situations a well-fitted torp Raven will outperform a equally-fitted Blasterthron, fleet or solo (not that solo matters much nowadays, but even if did, Raven does it better). The only thing i will say here is, learn to fit the damn Megathron with a good setup. Well Megathron is much better than Tempest if you see it that way, but then you can ask, why won't i use a Megathron instead of a Tempest?. The answer is easy. Megathron is is more an easy mode when it's about PVP. Tempest is extreme mode when it's about PVP, and the fact is that i like challenges in EVE, then i choose Tempest over a Megathron. But about Ravens and Megathrons, yes a Raven have a range advantage with good DPS, but believe me, if a very experienced player with a nice setup gets close to a Raven before it have started to do damages on your Megathron, it will ** the Raven apart. That's the thing with Raven, if he start to shoot you early and you have to use a little time to get to the Raven in your Megathron, then the Raven will have more chance to win, BUT..... if a Megathron lands on top of your Raven, you will probably don't survive if you meet a really nice Megathron player. And for the Tempest. You need to have the luck with your utility slots on the Tempest if you should have a chance to win a fight in the ship. And you need to have a perfect setup and you need to use the ship like 99.9% right, if not your **ed. That's the fun part with Tempest. I don't care about OMG a Megathron have 150 DPS more than my Tempest. DPS and tank is not everything in EVE today. The thing i care about is challenge and that i can kill ships smaller than battleships very effectly to. And a Tempest is perfect for that. So as i see it, every of the battleships is good at something over others. But yeah, i still don't see a reason to boost the Megathron or Blasters. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 15:49:00 - [39] Edited by: NightmareX on 16/09/2008 15:50:11 Theron Gyrow, i bet you have never used a Megathron EVER. Stop being stupid. Arrggg, i hate players who can't use the Megathron or other ship like they should. But back to the point about Ravens and Megathrons. When i know some guys with a faction fitted Megathron that have a Dual LAR tank and can tank 2x Ravens with Torps, then yeah, i wont call the Ravens that powerfull like you are trying to tell it is then. And while the guy in that Megathron tanked the Ravens, he killed them. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 15:56:00 - [40] Originally by: Presidio I feel that dominix needs a boost in the way it looks. The old dominix looked cool, the new one just looks stupid. Especially that row of green lights in front which got removed. Doesn't even look like a same ship anymore. Hahaha, i can agree to that. Eeeeeeeeeep, WTB Rouge Drone Dominix skin please. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 19:44:00 - [41] Edited by: NightmareX on 16/09/2008 19:44:31 So you guys really want me to post a setup or two, just so i can prove what???. But ok, since you guys ask so. This is the setup i would use on a Megathron. High-Slot: 7 x Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 1 x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I /OFFLINE Med-Slot: 1 x 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 1 x Warp Disruptor II 1 x Dark Blood Stasis Webifier 1 x Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Low-Slot: 1 x Large Armor Repairer II 1 x Damage Control II 2 x Dark Blood Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 2 x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 x Shadow Serpentis Magnetic Field Stabilizer Rig-Slot: 3 x Trimark Armor Pump I Drones: 5 x Ogre II You need a -5% CPU usage on turrets implant to be able to fit this setup. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 20:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Liang Nuren There's no way in hell that setup tanked 2x torp ravens and killed them. I don't care if the pilot had a full HG slave set. -Liang The setup i posted is the setup i would use, its not the setup the other guys who tanked the Ravens did use. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 22:14:00 - [43] Edited by: NightmareX on 16/09/2008 22:16:27 Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: NightmareX It's something called a scout in another system. And when you see with the scout that for example a Raven is going to jump into the system you are in, then you can just warp from your safespot that are like 50k km the gate and then just get him when he jumps in. And when that happens, you are pretty close to the Raven right? And who cares about 1 vs 1 or 5 vs 1 when it's about a gate camp?. Ok, so now: 1) You're making it a 2v1. ANY battleship can kill any other battleship when you have 2v1 odds, this doesn't say anything special about the Megathron. 2) That puts you about 15km from the Raven. If the Raven pilot is not an idiot, he will MWD away from you, leaving you with no cap and no armor left by the time you finally get into range to apply your slight damage advantage. Hillariously, even if you DO land within web range and get on top of him right away, you still probably lose. Ok gonna answer here: Question 1: Where did i say that i would use my noob scout alt in the fight?. He's a scout. And wont enter the fight. Question 2: How often do you see Ravens with MWD fitted?. Except for 0.0 fleet fights. To be really honest, if you PVP fit up a Raven with the things you really need in small scale PVP, you need to fit MWD and Disruptor. And that leaves you with 1x 100MN MWD, 1x t2 Disruptor, 1x X-Large Shield Booster, 2x t2 shield hardeners and one Heavy Cap Injector II. And what does that help against a Neutron Mega?, nothing, the Raven will melt so fast that it would probably be a new speed record in killing a Raven fast. So to be able for your Raven to kill a Megathron before your Raven pops, you need to have a full shield tank, no tackling stuffs and no MWD. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 22:36:00 - [44] Liang, you wont active tank a Raven, that's fine, but oh well, i almost only see active tanked Ravens nowdays anyways. It's not often i see passive tanked Ravens. They are rare for me to see. And you say intel does matter?, lol, smart peoples use scouts today when you know how much blobbing it is with this Factional Warfare and that. Specially if your in a small gang. Merin Ryskin, you said: Your point? You're still using two characters. If you get two characters for your Megathron, I get two characters for my Raven, otherwise it isn't a fair fight. And you'll be kind of sad to find out that MY alt scout is a Falcon pilot with 6x Gallente racial jammers. Goodbye Megathron. That's 2 vs 1, because even if i have the scout alt, the scout alt wont enter the fight, and as long the alt doesn't enter the fight, it will be 2 vs 1 whatever you say if you use the Falcon alt on me in the fight. And then: Or just to be fair, my alt is a pure scout as well. My covops alt jumps in, runs a 14 AU scan from the gate, sees your Megathron, and jumps back out. My Raven goes a different route and ignores you completely. Heh dude, that's another story if you do. If you get away from me, then you get away. I wont come to the forum and cry omg omg someone got away from my gate camp, nerf them because i didn't got one kill waaaaah. You get my point here right?. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.16 22:44:00 - [45] Edited by: NightmareX on 16/09/2008 22:46:12 Meh. But ofc, if any very good Raven pilots wanna show how good the Raven are, you know where Sisi is. I can use a Megathron pretty good, so it would be nice to see who are right about the things here. The reason i want to take this on Sisi is because i don't really fly Megathrons on TQ atm. So i don't own a Mega now. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 00:00:00 - [46] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 00:04:39 Liang, when the alt is in another system when the fight start, it's not a 2 vs 1. When the alt is in another system, you can't just warp to him when he's in another system. Because you use the alt to scout another system in a safe spot, and he will stay there. It will be your fighter character that will warp into the gate when the target is about to jump into you. Hard to understand?. And Liang, have you seen Constantinee's new video, where he have 3 fights in a row against a Raven in his Mega?. And what do you think Constantinee's Mega did to that Raven in all of the 3 fights?, yes he ass ****d the Raven seriously. But then, i'm not sure on how old that character is, so i have to ask Constantinee about that. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 00:27:00 - [47] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 00:33:08 And no, it is NOT a 1v1 when you use a second character to gain a considerable advantage in the fight. Your use of an alt scout to ensure you always end up at ideal range on an ideal target is no different than me bringing a Falcon alt. Sure, do it, but don't brag about your amazing 1v1 skills when you're using a second character to help you. So what exactly will the scout alt help you with except for telling ok now there is a ship about to jump in?, lets warp my Megathron to the gate now so i don't lose him. Well yeah, you ONLY get info from the scout alt. And what about an FW gang that are about 12 players that just warps right into the gate on the other side of the gate i'm at. Should i just let them jump on me and blob me?. No, you use the alt for that so the alt can tell you to get the hell out of the gate if your at the gate. And about the Raven's again. A very good fitted Raven vs a very good fitted Megathron, and both of them are very experienced. Who will win that fight if the Raven have a Disruptor & MWD fitted with 1x Damage mod, and the rest the normal stuffs. And then the Megathron with the setup i posted earlier. I bet 50 mill isk on that the Megathron will win that fight. I'm not saying the Megathron will win by a big margin, but i'm 98% sure that the Megathron will win that fight. Anyone wanna bet 50 mill isk against me on that?. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 00:40:00 - [48] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: NightmareX And about the Raven's again. A very good fitted Raven vs a very good fitted Megathron, and both of them are very experienced. Who will win that fight if the Raven have a Disruptor & MWD fitted with 1x Damage mod, and the rest the normal stuffs. And then the Megathron with the setup i posted earlier. I bet 50 mill isk on that the Megathron will win that fight. I'm not saying the Megathron will win by a big margin, but i'm 98% sure that the Megathron will win that fight. Anyone wanna bet 50 mill isk against me on that?. No, I'm not betting 50 million ISK on your rigged fight. Why the hell would the Raven pilot only fit one damage mod? The biggest advantage of shield tanking is that you can fit lots of damage mods. Any Raven setup with less than 3x BCU II is a comedy killmail. Alright, add 3 BCU II's then. But that wont change the fact for me that the Megathron is still gonna win. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 00:52:00 - [49] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 00:52:35 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX Alright, add 3 BCU II's then. But that wont change the fact for me that the Megathron is still gonna win. /enters full HG slave set faction fit Megathron -Liang No, it will be without Slaves and only T2 fit. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 01:09:00 - [50] Nah. You still have to prove me that a Raven kills a Megathron so easily as you say. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 02:02:00 - [51] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 02:03:56 Originally by: Etho Demerzel Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: NightmareX Nah. You still have to prove me that a Raven kills a Megathron so easily as you say. I can probably arrange something later this week if you'd like. It won't be immediately because I've got a pretty hectic work schedule right now (we've got an "emergency" and I anticipate working 12-14 hour days until it's fixed). I also kindly ask you not to (in any way, not limited to posting killmails and fraps) reveal the name of my alt. If you can't abide by this, I will not accept your challenge. This is very important to me for reasons noted earlier in this thread. :) The thing that annoys me is that I was saving up to buy a Broadsword, not another Raven. Damn I hate Eve PVE. :-/ -Liang Contact me in game (by evemail or convo if I am online) telling me the name of the char I should contract it to and I will contract you a raven for free for this noble end But then, i don't have a Megathron on TQ now, so the only choice i have atm is Sisi or Multiplicity. Because of my sec status and no alts, it's not directly easy to get a new ship. But still, i wont tell anything about your alt then, trust me on that. I always keep my words. Still one thing left though, can your alt log into Sisi or Multiplicity?. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 06:42:00 - [52] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 06:45:39 Kunming, while you have some good points.... But as the things are now, and will be it after the speed and web nerf to, CCP can't just increase the Blasters damage drasticly like you say. Because if they do that as the other battleships are now, it will make some things in EVE VERY unbalanced. They need to look into Minmatar / Autocannons and maybe some other races battleships and weapons to before they can do such drasticly damage boosts to Blasters. If CCP can fix the things with the tracking that are not right atm, and fine tune Autocannons to begin with, then we can later look into maybe give Blaster a damage boost, or tracking boost if that's needed. But before that happens, it's a really really bad idea to give Blasters a boost in damage now. I hope you see the whole picture here on what i'm trying to explain here. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'
NightmareX MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.17 07:12:00 - [53] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 07:13:29 Originally by: Theron Gyrow Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 17/09/2008 06:45:39 Kunming, while you have some good points.... But as the things are now, and will be it after the speed and web nerf to, CCP can't just increase the Blasters damage drasticly like you say. Because if they do that as the other battleships are now, it will make some things in EVE VERY unbalanced. Yeah, well. Except for the excessive torp range, I considered torp Raven and Mega about balanced a year ago - Raven would win if it could keep the range open long enough, Mega would win if it could close fast enough. Fair. Then they shortened the torp range from long to medium-short (whee!) and increased torp DoT by 33% (wtf?). And, of course, improved Raven's agility so that it's among the most agile BSs even before the armor tanking BSs fit any plates (wtf^2?). Now, some thing in EVE are very unbalanced. Not really. I bet i have had like xxx (lol yes xxx) amounts of fights in my Megathron against all types of ships on sisi, and i can say that as the Megathron is now, it's pretty balanced to what the Raven and Armageddon is. But don't take me wrong, even when the Tempest doesn't shine as good as the Megathron, Raven and Armageddon does, it's still a nice ship. And i was living on sisi to test out Tempest and Megathron / Kronos when the speed and web nerf was there. The ONLY issue the Megathron and Tempest had was tracking then. So the only thing those need if the speed and web nerf are hitting TQ, is to get more tracking to all large guns. So as the things are today, Megathron, Armageddon and Raven are good balanced to each others. Check out my new flash web page 'Quantum Singularity'

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