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Delnarai
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:17:00 -
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Oh look! Another assinine patch that only serves the PVP players in the game. Miners get screwed again with electronics stopping the drones from protecting an upprotected mining barge, which the ignorant programers in Iceland convieniantly did not put high slots for guns, and minimal mid slots for shields and even left only 2 low slots on the biggest mining barge so only 2 cargo extensions can be added. A year ago I trained and could put out more than 5 drones at a time, then .... yup you guessed it, they put out a patch so I had to train even more to add rigs to use more drones. Now our only protection, our drones are limited again to being affected by electronics with no added protection for mining barges. Why don't the people running this game just come out and say it. players that want to mine , GET THE HELL OUT OF THE GAME! Mining is a crucial part of the game. Without it, there will be no resources to manufacture all the ammunitions consumed or to build the ships. As for the game is made for players to HAVE TO work together, save that crap for the communists. Check the records and see how many real mom & pop corps there are out there that have only 1 or 2 players in them. This is due to the fact that others just cannot be trusted. I point to the new rule banning players from joining corps and leaving just to get an advantage of surprise for attacking. I have had players join my corp and try to say I had to run things their way and even threaten my corp because I let someone in they didn't like. I have had to tell them to leave or kick them out because of their actions. My corp, my rules! So I believe the programers and people running this game should rethink their PVP or nothing crap and get with what over 1/2 of the players out here want. Fair play for all occupations in Eve! |

Kaakao
Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:22:00 -
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Wall of text! |

elohllird
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:22:00 -
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nice troll |

Armoured C
Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:22:00 -
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killmails for towehs wicked |

Overseer Aliena
Caldari Lord of Wars
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:23:00 -
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/facepalm
how many ew modules would it take to knock out 5 drones?
As for the patch only being geared towards pvp, Did you read the patch notes? |

Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:23:00 -
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my eyes! dey bleed! |

Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 02/09/2008 23:34:12
I disagree that it's useless. A lot of bug fixes and other qol changes got meted out. Thanks for these devs.
Quote: Droves of Macrominers are a crucial part of the game. Without it, there will be no resources to manufacture all the ammunitions consumed or to build the ships.
Fixed.
Though I agree that most if not all mining vessels have crap grid, weak tanks, are painfully slow and have limited drone space if at all. Mining as a profession has gone downhill due to the Drone regions, crap t1 rat drops, swarms of macrominers, and still crappy ships.
The fact that people mine in Rohks and other BS has always, and still, highlights the need for a hazrd duty miner.
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Miyeko Deux
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:30:00 -
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I am sure CCP thanks you for failing to note all the bug fixes, patches, and changes to items to alleviate confusion that they did just so you could complain about one aspect. /facepalm.
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Ki An
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:34:00 -
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This patch serves PvP players? You realise that this patch screws over PVP players more than any previous patch, and that it give every stinking carebear close to 100% protection in high sec, right?
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Paramite Pies
Minmatar Kasrkin Innovative Assembly
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:45:00 -
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I actually took the time to read your wall of text.
and I have to say, I actually agreed with everything you said. o.o |

Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.09.02 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An This patch serves PvP players? You realise that this patch screws over PVP players more than any previous patch, and that it give every stinking carebear close to 100% protection in high sec, right?
ouch, it looks like this guy is after your prestiged "great martyr" award. you better flame him better than this - -
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Teyrala
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:08:00 -
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So the suicide nerf doesn't count then?  |

Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:36:00 -
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This thread is now about raven fittings ----
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Apoctasy This thread is now about raven fittings
My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Originally by: CCP Wrangler We are pleased to aim!
Or was that the other way around?
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Apoctasy This thread is now about raven fittings
My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
I would switch out that ECM for some more tankage, but then again I don't fit pve ----
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simcor
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:45:00 -
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i gotta ask this.
Can i have your stuff? [/url] |

Andreya
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:57:00 -
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pvp patch!?!?!? where?! o this one? lol right.. barely relates to us pvpers at all _________________________________________________________ Only once you've lost everything, are you free to do anything. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Navigator ([email protected]) |

Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:13:00 -
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Cry some more, baby!
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Allen Ramses
Caldari Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:18:00 -
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It's not another useless patch because it screws over miners (which it doesn't), it's another useless patch because it revolves entirely around grammatical, spelling, and localization issues. ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless. |

Norrin Ellis
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:23:00 -
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I've found that the game is fun to me whether I'm actively playing - missions, mining, shooting people, etc. - or just using it as an RP platform. The one thing that keeps me coming back, and even compelled me to start over after deleting a character with 33m SP, is the community. The people make this game enjoyable, and they also make it less than enjoyable at times.
Regardless of what happens in the patches, CCP can't nerf friends.
*rabble*
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Drachtul Tun'Dull
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:33:00 -
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Hmm, I mine for hours by myself in a barge. Never had a lick of problems. If this drone change bothers you, I have to say that I don't think you are qualified to be a miner.
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ShardowRhino
Caldari Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:41:00 -
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at least TRY to be funny...
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DreadedHunter
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:52:00 -
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Didnt want to have to do this but here's the original post over multiple lines...
Oh look! Another assinine patch that only serves the PVP players in the game.
Miners get screwed again with electronics stopping the drones from protecting an upprotected mining barge, which the ignorant programers in Iceland convieniantly did not put high slots for guns, and minimal mid slots for shields and even left only 2 low slots on the biggest mining barge so only 2 cargo extensions can be added.
A year ago I trained and could put out more than 5 drones at a time, then .... yup you guessed it, they put out a patch so I had to train even more to add rigs to use more drones.
Now our only protection, our drones are limited again to being affected by electronics with no added protection for mining barges.
Why don't the people running this game just come out and say it. players that want to mine , GET THE HELL OUT OF THE GAME!
Mining is a crucial part of the game. Without it, there will be no resources to manufacture all the ammunitions consumed or to build the ships.
As for the game is made for players to HAVE TO work together, save that crap for the communists.
Check the records and see how many real mom & pop corps there are out there that have only 1 or 2 players in them.
This is due to the fact that others just cannot be trusted. I point to the new rule banning players from joining corps and leaving just to get an advantage of surprise for attacking.
I have had players join my corp and try to say I had to run things their way and even threaten my corp because I let someone in they didn't like.
I have had to tell them to leave or kick them out because of their actions.
My corp, my rules! So I believe the programers and people running this game should rethink their PVP or nothing crap and get with what over 1/2 of the players out here want.
Fair play for all occupations in Eve!
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Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:57:00 -
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What, why would you fit guns on a mining barge? And since when allow rigs to field more drones? And wtf does your corp and your stupid noob members have to do with all of this?
I'm confused now and need to lie down :(
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 03:15:00 -
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I feel stupider for having read this.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.09.03 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear I feel stupider for having read this.
You read it?
Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
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Moirae Arachnea
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Posted - 2008.09.03 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An This patch serves PvP players? You realise that this patch screws over PVP players more than any previous patch, and that it give every stinking carebear close to 100% protection in high sec, right?
I am doubting I would be considered a carebear. What this patch does do in one aspect of PvP (suicide ganking) is it takes your free lunch away from you and makes you have to plan, think, and work a bit harder for your lunch. I don't agree with everything done in the patch, but I do agree that the virtually no-risk suicide gank had to be eliminated and I have profited from it myself. When I can go up to any hualer and gank him in my fully insured ship, get all my insurance back, all his loot and fittings that dropped and still have really good standings, and be far richer with so little risk... something is broken.
I think your upset because your free ride isn't free anymore. You have screamed many times in other threads that suicide ganking has been killed but it hasn't. You can still gank someone. The cold harsh world you love is still cold and harsh... the difference is, the cold and harsh just landed on you as well. Thats the truth of your whines. You wanted eve on easy mode for your ganks and now, it's not so easy anymore and you need to pick and choose a bit more discriminatly to make your fat profits. 
Your a sad sad individual.
let me lay it out in easy mode for you....
1. You used to gank with little or no consequences or cost. 2. You got fat and lazy from doing it, not to mention rich. 3. CCP ganked your "Ganking on Easy Mode" and made it a bit riskier for you now. 4. Your whining and trolling because your a fat lazy slob who got his easy ride taken away from him. 5. STFU and Adapt or Die
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kakka kakka
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Posted - 2008.09.03 05:07:00 -
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I read what you wrote, it hurt my eyes so i will not quote any of it for the sake of other readers eyes.
First YOU ARE A FOOL.
This is a carebear patch mate! 1.0 ganking has basicly been removed with the new concord times.
Second YOU ARE A FOOL.
Third YOU ARE A FOOL, you do not deserve you Ships/Items/ISK contract it all to me now.
I am not usally mean, but you really needed to be told YOU ARE A FOOL :D.
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Trellish
Ten Ton Hammer The Red Skull
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Posted - 2008.09.03 05:14:00 -
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Holy Heck!!!
Are you serious or are you trolling mate? Look at the patch notes... High sec ganking just got majorly nerfed... in what way does that not benefit miners carrying valuable mins? New mission stuff... new lots of stuff... this patch should be named the carebear patch. As a PVPer, I'm not gonna moan about it, but sheesh... to take something that nearly entirely helped you and then claim it did nothing but hurt you? What are you on and where can I get some? 
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RickyAAA
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Posted - 2008.09.03 05:33:00 -
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Im not even goign to try and read that without some paragraphs.
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