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Alora Venoda
GalTech
Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:17:00 -
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soloers like to play in a community/economy/etc of other soloers instead of all by themselves because it provides the MMO effect of "not being godlike"...
in most single player games, you either control armies and cities like some kind of overlord, or you are some super-hero type character. but in MMO's you are a mere citizen among many, and a large portion of them are better than you. and if you really do work your way to the upper level of the community in an MMO then you have serious bragging rights. single player games, which are often easily conquered in much shorter periods of time, cannot compare at all to the scale of an MMO.
in this way, it could be speculated that online FPS games with rankings such as Team Fortress, Starcraft, and HALO, are very simple MMO's because you are part of a community and competing against the masses.
in EVE, the challenge for an individual is even greater than most other MMO's, and the veins of competition are even greater still. unlike other games that revolve around PvE content, EVE revolves around its community and PvP aspects. therefore, the "level cap" effect is much lower in EVE, because the goal is not to achieve a finite number of objectives, but rather to continually participate in a community with ongoing competition.
in other MMO's the community is the tools you use to complete an objective (ie- raid guilds in WoW). but in EVE, it's reversed - the objectives are the tools used to build and power the community, and also to fuel the competition among its members. this is what sets EVE apart from most other MMO's...
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Complete Tart
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 04/09/2008 19:15:51
Originally by: Ekrid
Actually I agree with the OP, particularly the bit about corporations and entitled feeling nooblet players.
Did you mean to use your alt?
Dude, that's just sad.
Clearly he did.... as if this thread couldn't get any worse
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
because I do agree with the OP, maybe?
You WROTE IT! Why wouldn't you agree with everything you wrote? 
More likely is you attempted to post with your alt agreeing with the OP, but screwed up.
Really sad.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:21:00 -
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^^ I agree with Exlegion 100% 
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:24:00 -
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This thread delivers  |
Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:44:00 -
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Seriously, stop digging.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Atlas Oracle
Minmatar
Colossus Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.04 19:46:00 -
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OP wins idiot of the year award.
at first i thought it was a malcanis alt, but even he's not that stupid
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FOl2TY8
Gallente
Revolutionary United Front
Silex Union
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:07:00 -
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I had to go through the thread twice to make sure I got this right. So the OP posts a long elitist tirade about how he can psychoanalyze everyone who plays Eve. Then he trys to support himself using an alt not once, not twice... but three effin times and each time posts with his main? That is hilarious.
Unless of course he is trying to reach some sort of internet stardom by being the dumbest poster ever.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
unlike the rest of the cowards I dont need to post with an alt to agree with the OP.
What was that quote from Braveheart? An Irishman has to either talk to god or himself to find meaningful conversation...
Something like that, anyway.
Eve Error: CANNOT INVITE SELF - It is much more efficient to talk to yourself in person than via the chat system.
That probably goes double for the forums.
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Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:17:00 -
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Lol ... for many solo players, you are just a better version of an NPC which they are happily willing to pay $15/mo to kill.
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:20:00 -
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And I still agree with the OP.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
And I still agree with the OP.
That's like saying "i agree with my naughty place", but, i guess you forgot to post with your alt
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
That's like saying "i agree with my naughty place"
Well, I know I certainly do...
What? I think you lost me.
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Illwill Bill
Minmatar
A Few Killers
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:36:00 -
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This thread is full of fail. I like it!
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Originally by: CCP Saint
Hey look over there! Its...its...its the thread back on topic!
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Atlas Oracle
OP wins idiot of the year award.
at first i thought it was a malcanis alt, but even he's not that stupid
And I'm also too vain to alt-post.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
And I still agree with the OP.
"Why act smart, by shutting up, and be inconsistent." - Ekrid the King of Fail
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
FOl2TY8
Gallente
Revolutionary United Front
Silex Union
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ekrid
And I still agree with the OP.
I'm confused again... are you doing this on purpose?
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Atlas Oracle
Minmatar
Colossus Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Atlas Oracle on 04/09/2008 21:00:23
Originally by: Malcanis
And I'm also too vain to alt-post.
your vanity is without cause.
just trying to help.
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Kazang
Gallente
KnightRaven Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:19:00 -
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Ok it is a cleverly disguised rant on griefers, hmm what to say, hmm.
Personally i think you are an over generalising bigoted idiot for saying: "On soloers. These people don't play MMOs, they want to say they do and feel involved, because they have no life outside of games, or they feel connected to others unlike single player games"
What planet are you on? for a start that comment makes no sense and secondly if you want people to read between the lines its utter bullshit, frankly i wish you would just stfu and take your social prejudices else ware.
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Basura Blanco
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:45:00 -
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I agree with the OP.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:56:00 -
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I think the OP, and pretty much the rest of these forums need to find something better to do than trying to dictate how things should be for other people.
If I'm soloing it's because I choose to, if I'm in a fleet, I also chose that, and surprise, despite any and all protestations on these forums, you can't influence my choices.
DIAF thanks.
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Basura Blanco
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Posted - 2008.09.04 22:11:00 -
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I agree with LOCKE.
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Herateis
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Posted - 2008.09.05 00:33:00 -
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Even devs have stated that not playing as part of a player corporation is like not playing 90% of the game. |
MineralOel Steuer
Amarr
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:30:00 -
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haha keep poasting Ekrid, you're the man!
The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch.. |
Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:03:00 -
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THis is true. And the OP makes more and more sense each time I read it.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:10:00 -
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So Ekrid, answer me a question: do you agree or disagree with the points put forth by the OP?
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Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
So Ekrid, answer me a question: do you agree or disagree with the points put forth by the OP?
Well, I want to disagree, but its so convincing that I have to agree.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:21:00 -
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Accusations of being an idiot should not be directed at Ekrid, for fear of being proven wrong.
I submit in evidence the following: A thread in which the accused posted a long convoluted OP so devoid of any single point that it left all that read and responded in a state of confusion. Due in no small part to this confusion (I hope), Ekrid has successfully posted in this thread a subsequent five or so times agreeing with himself, and yet I have yet to see an accusation of him being the obvious troll he is.
Thusly, having so misdirected the forum populace, I hereby change the designation of this troll from 'obvious' to 'successful', and declare this thread Made of Win.
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Sapphire Mote
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:52:00 -
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I'm just imagining this thread, right? Damn, I must have forgotten to take my medication again. 
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Xeronn
Amarr
Ordo Drakonis
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I think the OP, and pretty much the rest of these forums need to find something better to do than trying to dictate how things should be for other people.
If I'm soloing it's because I choose to, if I'm in a fleet, I also chose that, and surprise, despite any and all protestations on these forums, you can't influence my choices.
DIAF thanks.
Oh but the beauty of eve is (was?) that one could easely influence your choiches...you know...with guns and ammo.
People that keep arguing that if they pay for the game they should be able to play however they want kinda miss this...sure play however you want as long as you can enforce that play style against other people that don`t want you playing like that.
Isn`t this what eve was suposed to be like? CHOSE your goals and playstyle but ENFORCE and ACHIEVE them YOURSELF or with likeminded people (corps, aliances) and NOT via artificial game mechanic barriers set in place to protect you. Take things into your own hands i guess?
So yes one can influence your choiches by blowing you out of the sky untill you change your ways (dam you CCP for killing this making empire 100% safe...how weird this coming from an antipirate that never ganked random defenceless targets eh? I guess what i`m saying is CCP don`t put antipirates out of business let people handle people and let NPC`s be a non-factor resource..but i guess you don`t see it like this with the fail FW and stuff...)
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My views don`t reflect my corps or alliance`s views in any way , and no i won`t bother posting with alts
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