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Salpad Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.04 15:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Salpad on 04/09/2008 15:19:03 There's talk in some threads about how Assault Frigates, which have been seen to many as underpowered, will soon get a boost. What is this boost? Is it just about speed? Like a reduction of their mass, so that ABs and MWDs have a greater effect? Or is it something more than that? edit: fixed typo in Subject line. -- Salpad
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.04 15:21:00 - [2] Mass reduction, so you get more speed out of AB/MWD. Speed boost, so you get more speed, period. Scrambler change, so you can stop larger turret ships from trivially lowering transversal to 0 and murdering you. Web change, so... well, you know what webs do to smaller ships, right? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Hunduran	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:03:00 - [3] sounds like a boost to me! lets go grab our wolves!
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Mercenaries International Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:07:00 - [4] Originally by: Hunduran sounds like a boost to me! lets go grab our wolves! finally, the day when i can fly my wolf without people laffing at me ^_^
Fifi LeFume No Trademark Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:11:00 - [5] jumps in the trusty ishkur Its blastin time
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Mercenaries International Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:17:00 - [6] or maybe i should stick with amarr and fly my retribution.... either way i look forward to ganking some cruisers ^_^
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:21:00 - [7] Edited by: Benco97 on 04/09/2008 17:23:08 They'll all be getting -100% PG bonuses to Extra Large Weaponry. Edit- Wrote 99% first without doing my sums Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Benco97 Edited by: Benco97 on 04/09/2008 17:23:08 They'll all be getting -100% PG bonuses to Extra Large Weaponry. Edit- Wrote 99% first without doing my sums Yes, I'd love to put 3x40mil guns on a 5mil AF Boink!
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Mercenaries International Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Benco97 Edited by: Benco97 on 04/09/2008 17:23:08 They'll all be getting -100% PG bonuses to Extra Large Weaponry. Edit- Wrote 99% first without doing my sums as long as i get a 1000% bonus to tracking as well, please, otherwise, i would rather have 95% or so reduction of power needs for medium weaponry.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Oyster Colors	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:49:00 - [10] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 04/09/2008 17:50:24 Originally by: Cpt Branko Mass reduction, so you get more speed out of AB/MWD. Speed boost, so you get more speed, period. May be true for some of the AFs, but at least my Jaguar is actually slower than before. While it got some speed/mass boosts, the nerfing of speedmods makes it slower in the end than it is now. Edit: web changes are clearly boosting AFs, while being a major nerf to other ships (minnie recons among others).
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.09.04 17:54:00 - [11] Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson or maybe i should stick with amarr and fly my retribution.... either way i look forward to ganking some cruisers ^_^ Midslots are way overrated anyway. Fun fact: Retribution + AB can pull enough transfersal to track light drones that are attcking it. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.09.04 18:12:00 - [12] I heard they were going to put in some type of boost to the minnie recon web bonuses to make up for the nerf on it. Also can't forget the Paladin bonus either. Maybe we could do the same on the recons? But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar Oyster Colors	Posted - 2008.09.04 18:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Spaztick I heard they were going to put in some type of boost to the minnie recon web bonuses to make up for the nerf on it. Also can't forget the Paladin bonus either. Maybe we could do the same on the recons? The problem with boosting web bonuses on some ships is it just reintroduces the same old problems. If rapiers/huginns get -90% webs back, frigates/inties are going to die like flies again. I remember a thread about the kronos' web bonus a while back, people where advocating it needs it for pve, while the true intention of the OP was to have a 'better' megathron in exchange for some isk.
Woopie	Posted - 2008.09.04 18:18:00 - [14] Non-sense. They aren't getting boost, everything else is just getting nerfed Well it will be interesting to see. Their biggest boost is supposed to be the web nerf and their mass reduction. Whether that makes any difference remains to be seen.
Bish Ounen Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.04 18:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Fifi LeFume jumps in the trusty ishkur Its blastin time You use Blasters on an Ishkur???? Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
Saint Lazarus Spiorad ag fanaiocht	Posted - 2008.09.04 18:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Bish Ounen Originally by: Fifi LeFume jumps in the trusty ishkur Its blastin time You use Blasters on an Ishkur???? I know lots of people who fit it with Light blasters. Them and the drones really hurt And theres all the more reason to now that gettin close to a ship isnt a death sentence -----------------
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.09.04 19:27:00 - [17] Well they can boost all they want, as long as retribution doesnt gets mid slots its going to suck. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Mercenaries International Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 04:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Well they can boost all they want, as long as retribution doesnt gets mid slots its going to suck. it works fine in a gang, an for missions, and for general goofing off, so i'll keep mine thanks.
Furb Killer Gallente The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.09.05 06:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Bish Ounen Originally by: Fifi LeFume jumps in the trusty ishkur Its blastin time You use Blasters on an Ishkur???? You dont use blasters on an Ishkur???? Thats heresy.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Vanguard.	Posted - 2008.09.05 09:28:00 - [20] Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Well they can boost all they want, as long as retribution doesnt gets mid slots its going to suck. it works fine in a gang, an for missions, and for general goofing off, so i'll keep mine thanks. I go solo in mine. Its not the best but it wil beat down any frigate size ship it meets and can even give an ishtar problems
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.05 09:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Lilith Velkor May be true for some of the AFs, but at least my Jaguar is actually slower than before. While it got some speed/mass boosts, the nerfing of speedmods makes it slower in the end than it is now. Only if you use ODs on a Jaguar. Personally, the most I will fit on a Jaguar is a nanofiber II (which got boosted in case you're fitting only one anyway), so it both handles noticeably better and is quite faster (about 200m/s more) with a AB on. And yes, I use a AB fit Jaguar. I do quite a bit of complex killing work so it's perfect for that purpose (well, not really, Wolf > Jaguar there, but at least the Jaguar is really not getting tackled at gates unlike the heavy 400mm plated Wolf) Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Isean Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:45:00 - [22] When is said boost going to occur? or has it allready? --- Don't think bad of my corp for what I say. I say whatever I want...because I can.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:02:00 - [23] Said boosting is planned in speed changes. Mind you, they're hugely open to changes/etc. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:24:00 - [24] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Well they can boost all they want, as long as retribution doesnt gets mid slots its going to suck. meh. only thing I would change about the retri would be a 5th turret and more grid. ...and a tracking bonus, to replace that fake resist bonus. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Isean Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:32:00 - [25] please, either change the ishkur to +5m3 AND +5 MB/s bandwidth per level, or scratch it completely and give a damage bonus or something...the bay increasing and a static bandwidth makes no sense --- Don't think bad of my corp for what I say. I say whatever I want...because I can.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:44:00 - [26] Originally by: Isean please, either change the ishkur to +5m3 AND +5 MB/s bandwidth per level, or scratch it completely and give a damage bonus or something...the bay increasing and a static bandwidth makes no sense The Ishkur is preety damn awesome - it's gankier then the Enyo and belongs to the 'gank' AFs damage wise in general. Extra bandwidth is useful for flexibility, really. I'd fully support it getting a drone bonus instead of the resist bonus (provided all AFs recieve a 4th bonus). That'd make it sex. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 13:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Isean please, either change the ishkur to +5m3 AND +5 MB/s bandwidth per level, or scratch it completely and give a damage bonus or something...the bay increasing and a static bandwidth makes no sense The Ishkur is preety damn awesome - it's gankier then the Enyo and belongs to the 'gank' AFs damage wise in general. Extra bandwidth is useful for flexibility, really. I'd fully support it getting a drone bonus instead of the resist bonus (provided all AFs recieve a 4th bonus). That'd make it sex. back in the days, I would advocate a drone speed bonus, since a drone dmg + hp bonus would be a bit overkill. but with the advent of the "Big Slowdown", and the drone bw nerf, I would say dmg + hp all the way. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.

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