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Death4free Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:03:00 - [1] well figured i may aswell as im bored so state ur list of carrpy game companies or publishers with the reason well obv after ccp there are 1.soe for the failure cascade that was the nerfing of swg and planetside (i liked bfrs so screw u) 2.ea because they just launder out cashcows and half the games they publish are shite (see sims) 3.well thats it sofar ill edit as i find more Eve information kiosk
Death4free Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:03:00 - [2] well figured i may aswell as im bored so state ur list of carrpy game companies or publishers with the reason well obv after ccp there are 1.soe for the failure cascade that was the nerfing of swg and planetside (i liked bfrs so screw u) 2.ea because they just launder out cashcows and half the games they publish are shite (see sims) 3.well thats it sofar ill edit as i find more Eve information kiosk
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:06:00 - [3] 1) NCsoft 2) NCsoft 3) NCsoft and 4) NCsoft To any NCsoft employees reading this... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! Shakes fist in air Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:06:00 - [4] 1) NCsoft 2) NCsoft 3) NCsoft and 4) NCsoft To any NCsoft employees reading this... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! Shakes fist in air Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:09:00 - [5] oooh please... every single gaming company has wronged the gaming community at large one way or the other in the past, and present, and obviously, will wrong us in the future. Welcome to 1990. -
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:12:00 - [6] SOE is by far the worst MMO manager in the business, as well as the most proliferate. Their track record includes such notorious titles as the SWG NGE (which they use as an example of what NOT to do in certain development courses now), as well as their pickup and subsequent destruction of MxO, or thier fiasco with PlanetSide, or their betrayal of players in EverQuest, and the fallout of EQII, or ... Yeah, I hate SOE. They take great games that need ironing, and rip them apart in the name of 'more consumers', somehow failing each and every time. EA is also another one, but I dislike them more for their marketing and how they sell their crap. Oi, let's not forget Blizzard. Those fckers will drive a man insane with their overmarketing. And they ruin the whole industry by setting a bar (and a trend in development) that cannot be followed with any success, but everyone seems to have to try. I hate Blizzard for the same reasons I hate WalMart, McDonalds, Starbucks and Google. There is such a thing as having 'too much.' I hate Blizzard so much, I don't even ENVY them! ARGHH!!! Hmm, let's not forget BioWare, for NOT making a fcking MMO out of KOTOR or Elder Scrolls. Damn you, BioWare! Greates RPG producer on the planet! Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Benco97 1) NCsoft 2) NCsoft 3) NCsoft and 4) NCsoft To any NCsoft employees reading this... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! Shakes fist in air I've had a fair trend of NCSoft, don't know what they've done wrong. I mean, their games aren't always my forte, but they are pretty laid back, and I do like free2play. I keep GW updated on my PC, and never even play the damn thing. Haven't since it went live. What else does NCSoft manage? Theres CoX, which is the only MMO me and my wife both enjoyed playing. Tabula Rasa was a great RPG, if you can get your head out of that 'every MMO has to have PvP' garbage. Haven't played Lineage or Lineage II, and I'm told I'm missing out, but I've fiddled with Exteel (like Armored Core, to me) and Dungeon Runners (felt like a cheap version of WoW , if there is such a thing). Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Sharupak Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:30:00 - [8] SOE here as well Vanguard Starwars Galaxies EQ2 Shall I go on! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Gojyu Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:30:00 - [9] Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though.
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:31:00 - [10] Edited by: Benco97 on 04/09/2008 20:32:48 Originally by: Ruze I've had a fair trend of NCSoft, don't know what they've done wrong. I mean, their games aren't always my forte, but they are pretty laid back, and I do like free2play. I keep GW updated on my PC, and never even play the damn thing. Haven't since it went live. What else does NCSoft manage? Theres CoX, which is the only MMO me and my wife both enjoyed playing. Tabula Rasa was a great RPG, if you can get your head out of that 'every MMO has to have PvP' garbage. Haven't played Lineage or Lineage II, and I'm told I'm missing out, but I've fiddled with Exteel (like Armored Core, to me) and Dungeon Runners (felt like a cheap version of WoW , if there is such a thing). They killed the only game I loved more than EVE and for that I can never forgive them, it was like an icy spear of.. ice.. being shoved through me edit- and by "killed" I don't mean made bad, I literally mean they stopped it, turned it off. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:39:00 - [11] BLIZZARD BECAUSE THEY MADE WoW IS THIS JOKE STILL FUNNY GUYS? But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Naomi Halloran Industry Breakthrough	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:49:00 - [12] 1. Sony - NGE, Planes of Power, MxO, and a legion of others. 2. NCSoft - for not getting the hint that Hamidon != end-game, and that Tabula Rasa is more plain than a blank sheet of paper. 3. EA - for driving Dark Age of Camelot into the ground, and for inflicting an NGE on Warhammer. (One positive point, though, that they did it before it was released instead of after an expansion release... AKA SWG and Trials of Obi-Wan.) 4. Funcom - for Anarchy Online and Conan, and for the extreme over-zealousness of their mod staff. Woe be to you if you say anything negative about either product! (One positive point in that they have actual people that respond to petitions, not this mail-system crap.) 5. Blizzard - Come on, I'm so sick of WoW ads, it's not even funny. However, at least they have product on the shelves, unlike #1, 3, and 4 on my list. As for an MMO on KotOR, here's what you've been waiting for. :) --- "Sarcasm is just another free service I offer. If something I said offends you... good, it was meant to."
ssffaa	Posted - 2008.09.04 20:57:00 - [13] 1) EA is much worst than SoE 2) SoE 3) Failcom 4) Blizzard(not blizzard north the creators of D2/SC) 5 NcSoft 6) Mythic for making warhammer... 7) Microsoft just because it's microsoft
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:18:00 - [14] SoE, EA, Ubisoft - Infectious -
drendell	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:24:00 - [15] Acclaim Entertainment Ive been at war with them for years, i like many others simply can not forgive the company that brought the batman forever into existence. you may say they became bankrupt but there evilness still poisons the world.
Lendwill	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:32:00 - [16] The people who made Unreal Tournament 2003, claimed it would be an annual release (like a sports game), then discontinued the releases after Unreal Tournament 2004. Basically, UT2003 was an unfinished UT2004. Any reputable company would have released a patch, or at least a discounted upgrade; not these guys. I will never buy anything from them ever again.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:36:00 - [17] EA lol Atari for this Never played the game but read about it on German Forums The only numbers I care about are 3-2-1-launch..
Gone'Postal Minmatar Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.09.04 21:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Gojyu Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though. Yeah kinda agree here. Boost SISI VOTE NOW!
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:03:00 - [19] Edited by: pwnedgato on 04/09/2008 22:04:23 Edited by: pwnedgato on 04/09/2008 22:03:14 Valve
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:29:00 - [20] I flat out refuse to play anything connected to SOE. You cant even get me to play if you pay for the subscription fee. I can not stand how they treat their customers or how they treat developers of games they buy. How this company is still considered a viable option for MMO's by both players and companys is beyond me. I also refuse to play any sort of game that is the result of a franchise that didnt orginally begin in a game. IE games based on movies, shows, books, songs, **** and so forth. These are games that thrive on grandma's and fanactics to supply their income and are ussually of an inferior product. Grandmas because they dont know any better, and fanactics because they are so pathetic that you can give them a turd and say it came out of the heros butt and they will believe it and pay big bucks. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:30:00 - [21] Originally by: Benco97 They killed the only game I loved more than EVE and for that I can never forgive them, it was like an icy spear of.. ice.. being shoved through me They killed EVE too.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Gojyu Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though. 1. Do you honestly expect other MMO companies havent had similar instances? The only reason you know about it is because the "whistle blower" hacked the database, blackmailed CCP, and then decided to rat them out. As for the last point? huh? -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.09.04 22:34:00 - [23] SoE for reasons already listed (CU AND NGE) EA for being douchehats and sucking up every good gaming company they can get their grubby hands on (Bioware ) Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 01:17:00 - [24] bioware went to shite though, thats why ea got their hooks in Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Gojyu Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:12:00 - [25] Originally by: Jacob Mei Edited by: Jacob Mei on 05/09/2008 02:06:47 Originally by: Gojyu Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though. Do you honestly expect other MMO companies havent had similar instances? The only reason you know about it is because the "whistle blower" hacked the database, blackmailed CCP, and then decided to rat them out. As for the last point? huh? Actually, It's been a few years, so I can't recall the details, but a wow gm was caught cheating at one point. The guy was fired. As for the last point, ccp seem perfectly fine with real money trade, as long as a cut goes into your pockets. Have you ever noticed how ccp so valiantly try to fight against people selling isk for cash while subtlely saying "here, use our system for buying isk for cash, it's much safer". Given the huge mark up on gtc's compared to a credit card subscription. It'd be interesting to see how much money ccp actually make a year from real money trade
Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.05 02:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: Jacob Mei Edited by: Jacob Mei on 05/09/2008 02:06:47 Originally by: Gojyu Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though. Do you honestly expect other MMO companies havent had similar instances? The only reason you know about it is because the "whistle blower" hacked the database, blackmailed CCP, and then decided to rat them out. As for the last point? huh? Actually, It's been a few years, so I can't recall the details, but a wow gm was caught cheating at one point. The guy was fired. As for the last point, ccp seem perfectly fine with real money trade, as long as a cut goes into your pockets. Have you ever noticed how ccp so valiantly try to fight against people selling isk for cash while subtlely saying "here, use our system for buying isk for cash, it's much safer". Given the huge mark up on gtc's compared to a credit card subscription. It'd be interesting to see how much money ccp actually make a year from real money trade with the gtc trading, isk is not being injected into the economy merely changing hands, with rmt isk is being injected into the economy bi macro (i use this term loosely) farmers
Xtreem Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers	Posted - 2008.09.05 03:46:00 - [27] whatever company produced master of orion 3.. they ruined all my dreams for that game :( i still play moo2 though..epic
Taua Roqa Minmatar Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.09.05 04:16:00 - [28]
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:13:00 - [29] Microsoft for killing Mechwarrior I used to play that online all the time and it was great fun sure wish a new one would come out.... I can't wait for Diablo 3 and SC 2 but then again not MMO's....
Varus Riaz Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:30:00 - [30] EA's easily the worst I've ever dealt with. Always squeeze every last ounce of cash they can out of everything. Plop out one game and then completely stop supporting it as soon as the next comes out. Maybe a decent business practice, but it still makes me hate them.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:46:00 - [31] Any publisher that used starforce copy protection, so Ea and Ubisoft
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.09.05 05:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Gojyu Originally by: Jacob Mei Edited by: Jacob Mei on 05/09/2008 02:06:47 Originally by: Gojyu Although I'm going to get reamed for it, CCP, while not up there with ea or microsoft, are pretty shady for mmo developers: - Allow staff members to cheat, with no public repercussions - Actually going out of the way to ban whistle blowers - And the main thing, are active rl money traders. This puts them in such glorious company as ige, and any other gold farming buisness They do make a good game though. Do you honestly expect other MMO companies havent had similar instances? The only reason you know about it is because the "whistle blower" hacked the database, blackmailed CCP, and then decided to rat them out. As for the last point? huh? Actually, It's been a few years, so I can't recall the details, but a wow gm was caught cheating at one point. The guy was fired. As for the last point, ccp seem perfectly fine with real money trade, as long as a cut goes into your pockets. Have you ever noticed how ccp so valiantly try to fight against people selling isk for cash while subtlely saying "here, use our system for buying isk for cash, it's much safer". Given the huge mark up on gtc's compared to a credit card subscription. It'd be interesting to see how much money ccp actually make a year from real money trade In my company, there's one developper who made quite a few critical programs, and the way he coded was..non standard. Then, over the years, he corrected the bugs with so many fixes over fixes over fixes, that another developper would need litteraly years to know the code backward and forward. The programs work, more or less, but you can guess firing the original developper, even if he doesn't do his job all that well, wouldn't exactly be a good idea. And, of course, he's digging his heels any way he can where sharing knownledge is concerned. Now about T20, what he did was wrong, sure, but maybe there's reasons why firing him would be worse than keeping him? With a code the size of Eve's, surely the developpers have specialized in specific areas.
Rawrior Gallente Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.09.05 09:46:00 - [33] Edited by: Rawrior on 05/09/2008 09:47:45 Originally by: Benco97 1) NCsoft 2) NCsoft 3) NCsoft and 4) NCsoft To any NCsoft employees reading this... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! Shakes fist in air qft and.. blizzard isnt one of the worst, they're making d3, hippies _____ TEH FORUM POLICE!!1!11!@2!
Tao Han Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:20:00 - [34] Blizzard is easily my favourite developer/gamecompany. Worst are 1. EA (slayer of all thats good and classic) 2. EA (cash cow games suck) 3. EA (they ate Bullfrog)
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:27:00 - [35] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 05/09/2008 10:31:10 Quote: (i liked bfrs so screw u) Fail. 1. SoE for introducing BFRs to Planetside.
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:29:00 - [36] Originally by: SoftRevolution Quote: (i liked bfrs so screw u) Fail. I quite like BFRs in their current incarnation actually, I had a fun game of hide and seek around a particularly big tree with an Aphelion yesterday (Me on foot in agile, Shooting his critical systems with my 10mm pistol) until he stomped on my head
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.05 10:38:00 - [37] Even nerfed they annoyed me because they were so gimpy compared to their original laughably overpowered incarnation. The zany pendulum like approach to balancing them just underlined the utter stupidity of the concept for me. Planetside was just not designed for superweapons. See also: The Flail.
4rc4ng3L Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:18:00 - [38] Originally by: Death4free well figured i may aswell as im bored so state ur list of carrpy game companies or publishers with the reason well obv after ccp there are 1.soe for the failure cascade that was the nerfing of swg and planetside (i liked bfrs so screw u) 2.ea because they just launder out cashcows and half the games they publish are shite (see sims) 3.well thats it sofar ill edit as i find more Just cos you dont like the dam Sims doesnt mean its crap, happens to be one of the biggest selling PC games/franchises of all time, dont get me wrong, i hate it.... but i dont going around saying everything i dont like is crap, i simply say 'i dont like it' ------------------------------------------ - To Jumanji, or not to Jumanji...... -
Royaldo Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.05 11:41:00 - [39] EA. Its great seeing that more and more people "get" EA. They are just bad for the whole gaming industry.
Griffen Hawk Thanos and Killjoy Productions	Posted - 2008.09.05 12:20:00 - [40] EA for obvious reasons... BRING BACK WESTWOOD!
P'uck	Posted - 2008.09.05 15:44:00 - [41] Edited by: P''uck on 05/09/2008 15:44:23 EA clearly leads the field imho. Ubi was pretty bad, I haven't watched 'em that closely lately, but I heard they try to better themselves... edit: oh and CCP, just because
Miki Fin Gallente Independant Union of Rangers	Posted - 2008.09.05 20:44:00 - [42] 3D Realms. Still waiting for a bit of Duke
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.09.05 21:13:00 - [43] Originally by: Tao Han Blizzard is easily my favourite developer/gamecompany. Worst are 1. EA (slayer of all thats good and classic) 2. EA (cash cow games suck) 3. EA (they ate Bullfrog) EA for the the bad cashcow games, but even more for their crappy, really crappy customer support, but killing Bullfrog is unforgivable.
Taua Roqa Minmatar Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.09.05 21:37:00 - [44] Edited by: Taua Roqa on 05/09/2008 21:36:53 another reason to shit on EA http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7599639.stm
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.05 22:28:00 - [45] VIBES The bankrupt and dead and unlamented company that created the game "Mankind" Their game was, for its time, brillant. It pushed the limit of what was possible, and maybe a bit further, Like Eve, it was a space game, unsharded, and you could LOSE stuff. Sadly, far to much was client side, and very very hackable (one the many hacks, for example, was to change the clock on YOUR computer, to make stuff build faster) Last I checked a Chinese company owned the game. They purchased it after VIBES went bankrupt. VIBES had, by far, the worst costomer relations I have ever seen. Play nice while you butcher each other.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.05 22:59:00 - [46] Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 05/09/2008 22:58:56 NCSoft is the best company, wtf are you all talking about? Leaked C1 server
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.06 05:34:00 - [47] Originally by: Miki Fin 3D Realms. Still waiting for a bit of Duke They're not the worst, just the most laughable. They may be the fourth greatest joke in history. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.06 08:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Shadowsword Edited by: Shadowsword on 05/09/2008 05:58:15 Originally by: Gojyu Actually, It's been a few years, so I can't recall the details, but a wow gm was caught cheating at one point. The guy was fired. As for the last point, ccp seem perfectly fine with real money trade, as long as a cut goes into your pockets. Have you ever noticed how ccp so valiantly try to fight against people selling isk for cash while subtlely saying "here, use our system for buying isk for cash, it's much safer". Given the huge mark up on gtc's compared to a credit card subscription. It'd be interesting to see how much money ccp actually make a year from real money trade In my company, there's one developper who made quite a few critical programs, and the way he coded was..non standard. Then, over the years, he corrected the bugs with so many fixes over fixes over fixes, that another developper would need litteraly years to know the code backward and forward. The programs work, more or less, but you can guess firing the original developper, even if he doesn't do his job all that well, wouldn't exactly be a good idea. And, of course, he's digging his heels any way he can where sharing knownledge is concerned. Now about T20, what he did was wrong, sure, but maybe there's reasons why firing him would be worse than keeping him? With a code the size of Eve's, surely the developpers have specialized in specific areas. Back to the subject, I name SOE and activision as bad companies besause not being able to make more than average MMOs, at best, and Failcom for it's horrible communication policy (promising the world Soon(tm) and banning anyone who dare open his mouth) IIRC the reason T20 was not fired was that he had already been disciplined for his offence, and by Icelandic employment law, it would have been illegal for CCP to have penalised him again. Not saying that CCP handled the affair perfectly, or even that well, but jeez, you can't expect them to break the law. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.06 13:08:00 - [49] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 06/09/2008 13:10:27 Quote: Ubi was pretty bad, I haven't watched 'em that closely lately, but I heard they try to better themselves... Ubi are primarily frustrating because they're just like the most obvious example of the "death of PC gaming". They had all these slow paced sneaky tactical Clancy franchises which they've since turned into moron-em-ups for the "Bro" demographic. They also deserve honourable mention for either loathing or being totally indifferent to their customer base. They've got these community reps, right? The community reps ask the community what they want in a game. The community tell them. They then take this information to a bunch of soulless dead-eyed gits in suits who completely disregard this information and instead decide to make Gears of Rainbow 6: The Bro'ening - now with 50% more totally intense explosions, dude. All of their games have gone from being "Generation Kill" or "Band of Brothers" to "Under Siege 4: Fat man chases suitcase nuke again". Other highlights include advertising the completely different PC game using console game footage so everyone buying the PC game is completely confused and think they got gyped. They've just turned into this laughable development-by-the-numbers machine with studios outsourced to everywhere and no real creative vision for anything. The one exception seems to be FC2. That actually looks pretty cool. I can only assume Ubi developed it by mistake. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Mr Crepsley Gallente SkillzKillz United For 0rder	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:46:00 - [50] 1. Edios (age of conan anyone) 2. Mythic entertainment (really warhammer online beta sucks) 3. EA (whould be top if not for the masterpiece that is spore) ---- Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:57:00 - [51] Any company owned or associated with vivendi universal, or EA. Both of those big names own probably 90%+ of the gaming industry combined. Everything they touch becomes a big joke.
Tlaltecuhtli	Posted - 2008.09.08 22:36:00 - [52] Edited by: Tlaltecuhtli on 08/09/2008 22:36:47 rofl @ people bashing Blizzard, sounds like you're jealous. Just remember Blizz is one of the most succesful video game companies of all time. Edit: yup EA sucks
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.09 02:18:00 - [53] last good game blizzard made was starcraft. blizzard is just an example of what happens when developers do not get rushed for release. All their games are polished very highly and thus are not painful to play. But they have not made an actual 'good game', since the 90s. they are owned by vivendi by the way. In a way vivendi plays the companies it owns against each other to try and develop internet fanboys so they can get everyone fanatically snared into their evil trap.
cytomatrix Caldari Carebear Killers Inc. Anarchy.	Posted - 2008.09.09 02:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Benco97 1) NCsoft 2) NCsoft 3) NCsoft and 4) NCsoft To any NCsoft employees reading this... YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID! Shakes fist in air NCSoft NA. Korean ncsoft is fine. All the employees of NA NCSoft should be arrested and tortured to death. They spoiled a nice game. Second worst is SoE. Because of their shit game mechanics. ______________________________________________________________
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.09.09 08:17:00 - [55] Codemasters are known to crank out a shit every now and then but occasionally they redeem themselves. However, Midway and Ubisoft Montpellier are two absolute ballbags. Atari make some DIRE games, Alone in the Dark and Driver... Can't say I join the EA hatred, they have a few good games, they do peddle the same shit over and over but thats generally just the fault of the tards that buy it.
Chii Izaki White Star Ltd Mjolnir Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.09 12:33:00 - [56] Originally by: Gneeznow Any publisher that used starforce copy protection, so Ea and Ubisoft This. Also, SOE. Sure, they're easy to hate. Only ever played Planetside from them for any significant length of time (Year and a half.) After they royally boned it, you think it would've prevented me from purchasing and playing Vanguard. Wrong! Epic Fail on my part.
Sulora Amarr Eve Liberation Force Liberty.	Posted - 2008.09.09 12:50:00 - [57] 1. Ubisoft ~ their addiction to starforce and for Rainbow 6 Vegas: 2. Vegas 2 was basically a $50 expansion. 2. SOE ~ Destroying EQ1, sucking in other potentially good mmo's like Vanguard then assigning two developers to acquired mmo's. 3. EA ~ exploiting cash cow franchises, no ingenuity. 4. Blizzard ~ for making me wait for Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2. ( I WANT THEM ON MY HD NOW!!!!!!!!!111!) ... !~!!!! --------------------------------------------- Est Sularus Oth Mithas

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