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Kosan
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Posted - 2004.06.11 10:51:00 -
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Whats the best battle cruiser and why?
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2004.06.11 11:12:00 -
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Battlecruisers are still in development so no one can answer this question for you until they hit TQ.
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Kosan
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Posted - 2004.06.11 11:13:00 -
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sigh.. lol i ment cruisers. lmao im too tired.
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.06.11 11:22:00 -
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i <3 my blasterax w/ my dronelys
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2004.06.11 11:24:00 -
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there is no best.
sure, a caracal rocks in terms of missile deployment. but a blackbird is best at EW. meanwhile a moas a good PvE ship because it has quite a few guns to be cheap, and missile launchers for emergencies. And then theres the other races too, with other specialities and stuff.
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Maidel
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Posted - 2004.06.11 11:32:00 -
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post patch the caracel SHOULD be no better than any other ship. The bb will still rule ew warfare, but i susspect that the thorax will become the new king of pvp in terms of cruisers. The maller would also be nice if it wasnt for the fact it has no drone space.....
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Morlock
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Posted - 2004.06.11 12:17:00 -
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a dual MWD rupture will make any interceptor pilot mess themselves in panic, send any mediocre cruiser pilot back to the clone bank and badly maul any partially brain dead battleship pilot. should you be lucky enough to find a completely brain dead battleship pilot (there are plenty out there) and screenshot it you'll get bragging rights on these forums.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.06.11 12:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Morlock
a dual MWD rupture will make any interceptor pilot mess themselves in panic, send any mediocre cruiser pilot back to the clone bank and badly maul any partially brain dead battleship pilot. should you be lucky enough to find a completely brain dead battleship pilot (there are plenty out there) and screenshot it you'll get bragging rights on these forums.
Lol, but so right. I've seen ruptures do things a throax cant ever hope to do, altho a blastered thorax could do the same to a braindead BS pilot with it's uber damage potential.
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Morlock
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Posted - 2004.06.11 12:54:00 -
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yeah its a setup we ripped off you CA boys during the invasion. i am liking it a great deal 
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:31:00 -
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They all work with the right setup. My fav is the blasterrax and drones. Blackbird pilots beware.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Morlock
a dual MWD rupture will make any interceptor pilot mess themselves in panic, send any mediocre cruiser pilot back to the clone bank and badly maul any partially brain dead battleship pilot. should you be lucky enough to find a completely brain dead battleship pilot (there are plenty out there) and screenshot it you'll get bragging rights on these forums.
Lol, but so right. I've seen ruptures do things a throax cant ever hope to do, altho a blastered thorax could do the same to a braindead BS pilot with it's uber damage potential.
yesterday in Amarr I watched a Rupture pilot******a BB pilot, but then the reinforcement was called in and a blaster thorax warped in and webbed the rupture. The rupture didnt have a chance, 8 heavy drones, 5 blasters against a webbed rupture.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.06.11 19:04:00 -
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With the removal of cruise missiles from cruisers - guess which ship is going to be hit the least? That's right - the Thorax. I reckon this will become the new cruiser king, since most of the others ships will be struggling, whilst the Thorax will remain the close-range killa...
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.06.11 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ripcock
With the removal of cruise missiles from cruisers - guess which ship is going to be hit the least? That's right - the Thorax. I reckon this will become the new cruiser king, since most of the others ships will be struggling, whilst the Thorax will remain the close-range killa...
Don't discount the Maller.
While I prefer the Thorax + blasters personally, I also have a Maller setup that is not only great for PvE but should also rock the world of any other cruiser (except a blaster-rax, beams have trouble at close range with tracking).
We're talking 120-150 damage per shot with Heavy Beams (1 Modulated, 4 Anode) with multispec @ ~10-15km, and I have really crappy laser skills. If I trained them up a bit higher I'd be doing crazy damage.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.06.11 21:24:00 -
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Even after the missle changes, you cannot discount the Caracal as a viable ship.
Without cruise missles or torps you can't be the gank-machine of cruisers, but, 5 missles (even only heavies) + a large extender + 2 sheild hardners (varying on the target) can take alot of punishment, and can deal some nice dmg/volley.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.06.11 21:26:00 -
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Oh yeah definitely, heavy missiles are still nasty in a cruiser fight, but a lot of ships depended on the pure hitting power of cruise missiles before, now they'll have to adapt, unlike the Thorax which stays relatively the same (apart from its increased sig radius thanks to the MWD).
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.06.11 21:48:00 -
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What makes the Thorax better then the moa? the Moa has more powergrid/CPU and has 4 turret slots too, and 2 missile launcher slots, plus it has 4 med slots, compared to the 3 on the thorax. So why wouldnt a BlasterMoa lobbing some heavy missiles be just as good? Is it beacuse of the Drones?
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GrendelPrime
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Posted - 2004.06.11 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
What makes the Thorax better then the moa? the Moa has more powergrid/CPU and has 4 turret slots too, and 2 missile launcher slots, plus it has 4 med slots, compared to the 3 on the thorax. So why wouldnt a BlasterMoa lobbing some heavy missiles be just as good? Is it beacuse of the Drones?
Never underestimate the power of 8 heavy drones from a pilot with Heavy Drones at lvl4 (or 5 even  )
That would put a hurtin' on a blasterMoa... plus that extra low slot really helps 
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2004.06.11 22:12:00 -
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In terms of Cruiser Vs. Cruiser combat, the Thorax with a full compliment (8) of Heavy Drones will beat any ship hands down. Even if it's jammed, as soon as it's fired on, those drones will rip another Cruiser apart in seconds. It can also be fitted with a couple of smart bombs for defence. It's also the best miner in the game due to it's cost (6 Mill rather than 100 mill for a BS).
In terms of versitility then the Blackbird because it's med slots allow it to use EW in fleet combat or it can be sucessfully tanked and become very hard to kill.
In terms of raw firepower, the Caracal because 5 Cruise Missiles are going to hurt a BS. It's usefullness after the patch is open to debate though.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.06.11 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Morlock
a dual MWD rupture will make any interceptor pilot mess themselves in panic, send any mediocre cruiser pilot back to the clone bank and badly maul any partially brain dead battleship pilot. should you be lucky enough to find a completely brain dead battleship pilot (there are plenty out there) and screenshot it you'll get bragging rights on these forums.
Our Ghost Fleet-class Ruptures ALREADY have the Bragging rights!!!
Just ask any of our enemies
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.06.12 00:13:00 -
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I tore a player thorax apart in my rupture using heavies and proj's. I think it's all about the skill and how you have your ship setup that's the determining factor in a pvp fight.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.06.12 00:37:00 -
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Thorax = t3h close-range damage r0xx0r!
Blackbird = t3h adaptable EW r0xx0r!
Caracal = t3h long-range damage r0xx0r!
Rupture = t3h sp33d!
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Shimatu
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Posted - 2004.06.12 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: John McCreedy
In terms of Cruiser Vs. Cruiser combat, the Thorax with a full compliment (8) of Heavy Drones will beat any ship hands down. Even if it's jammed, as soon as it's fired on, those drones will rip another Cruiser apart in seconds. It can also be fitted with a couple of smart bombs for defence. It's also the best miner in the game due to it's cost (6 Mill rather than 100 mill for a BS).
while i agree with the mining point, there is a slight fault with what you say.
if we talk pre-patch, things can use torps to take down the drones. (well, mostly. can be tricky i admit)
and if post patch, drones wont be *quite* so good anyway.
and i think the caracal will still be good after the patch, though clearly not as good. keep meaning to try it on chaos.
i do think its a shame that CMs are to be removed from cruisers, but i guess for balance reasons it is needed.
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Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2004.06.12 09:02:00 -
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People have trouble with drones? Med Smartbomb makes short work of them :)
If ECM Burst ever gets fixed it used to be a god at stopping all drones within 5km orbit :)
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.06.12 10:29:00 -
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Shouldnt you be trying to get Immensia back?
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Crux Australis
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Posted - 2004.06.12 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: Morlock
a dual MWD rupture will make any interceptor pilot mess themselves in panic, send any mediocre cruiser pilot back to the clone bank and badly maul any partially brain dead battleship pilot. should you be lucky enough to find a completely brain dead battleship pilot (there are plenty out there) and screenshot it you'll get bragging rights on these forums.
Lol, but so right. I've seen ruptures do things a throax cant ever hope to do, altho a blastered thorax could do the same to a braindead BS pilot with it's uber damage potential.
Hello, may I please have some tips about these Rupture settings?
They look quite interesting !!!
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.06.12 12:05:00 -
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Chasing NPC Rats
Moa anyday of the week great all rounder which is why i use it.
plus on the occasional days I go out mining 4 miner2 a couple of mining drones and two missle racks for defence or some scout drones if were in lower sec space
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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2004.06.12 15:56:00 -
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Caracal IS the best cruiser for combat.
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Morlock
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Posted - 2004.06.12 16:34:00 -
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2 x 425's
1 x small tech2 smartbomb
3 x heavy launchers
2 x 10 mwd
1 x webber / jammer
5 x cap relays
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.06.12 16:49:00 -
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Blaster Thorax with Heavy Drones is a nice damage dealer, but is quite situational. As said, you need an MWD to closeup and it can't really take damage.
Caracal with Cruise Missiles or Torpedos is the one to deal the most damage and to beat every other cruiser out there, but has problems shooting down frigs unless you have a fast friend with a web. One salvo to hit should be enough then..
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Juhlah Maidan
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Posted - 2004.06.12 18:45:00 -
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Uhhh.. Guys?
Didn't he ask which battlecruiser that would be the best?
As far as I understand (which I admit is very little) You've been discussing the existing cruisers?
Yeah... I know, I'm a smartass! :p
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