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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:10:00 -
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They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:15:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:They went to far with this at the panel.
What they did at the panel was no longer a game anymore.
This is rather sickening actually, I waited to see what it was about cause i missed it and finally got around to looking at it.
This is practically criminal conduct.
There are real people behind the accounts we play.
Advocating pushing someone to kill themselves is freaking evil. The its just s joke line doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
I'm very disappointed in everyone that took part in that panel.
They crossed the line with this. And CCP should be ashamed for it since they hosted this scummy crap. The guy wasnt actually suicidal though, he was just playing the sympathy card. Mocking some butthurt carebear is fine, thats all that happened here.
You dont know that. You cant make that claim.
They crossed the line that should not be crossed. This is not a game anymore after what they did on that panel. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:17:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Steelshine wrote:Well I guess if you guys don't like the Mittani you should probably just get 11,000 people to vote for someone you agree with i don,t think the votes Mittens got alts or real accounts matter much now. He lost face ,but the worst part of it CCP and EVE loose face also If the important game media gets hold of this ,they won,t cover a great fanfest but something else
Any good feelings that fanfest had were just sunk by what they did.
This took the step past trolling that should not be crossed. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:23:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, it's okay to actually attack an actually suicidal person who actually kills himself so long as you weren't 99.99% sure that he was actually suicidal?
Or maybe just because he didn't avoid you so really it's actually HIS FAULT for what you did?
You guys sure come unglued fast when the other side stops being nice, don't you? Sing for me little Goon, sing.
It is absolutely 100% ok to do whatever you please to them in this video game, as long as it lies within the parameters of gameplay set forth by CCP. Their mental condition is in no way your concern, they chose to play the game, this can happen in THIS game, not. your. problem. Don't try to take my words out of context by cleverly leaving out the fact that we're talking about something that happened in a video game.
Exactly, they took it out of the game. Thats a, NO GO.
The ones defending it are just as bad.
Sociopaths. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:25:00 -
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Luba Cibre wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Mittani the Great's supporters' only "defenses" for Mittani the Great:
"Who is your main?"
"Where did you get your psychology degree?"
"Suicidal people deserve to die. Better for the gene-pool."
"10,084"
"First and for most, who is your main, and what does he do?"
"STFU carebears"
"This is happening only because people hate Goons"
These excuses are getting pathetic and do not explain anything about Mittani's misconduct. It's ~10058~.
They don't get that this is not a joke. They still think this is a troll.
Hell this opens a door for CCP to be sued for liability now in most places. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:27:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, it's okay to actually attack an actually suicidal person who actually kills himself so long as you weren't 99.99% sure that he was actually suicidal?
Or maybe just because he didn't avoid you so really it's actually HIS FAULT for what you did?
You guys sure come unglued fast when the other side stops being nice, don't you? Sing for me little Goon, sing.
It is absolutely 100% ok to do whatever you please to them in this video game, as long as it lies within the parameters of gameplay set forth by CCP. Their mental condition is in no way your concern, they chose to play the game, this can happen in THIS game, not. your. problem. Don't try to take my words out of context by cleverly leaving out the fact that we're talking about something that happened in a video game. Exactly, they took it out of the game. Thats a, NO GO. The ones defending it are just as bad. Sociopaths. incorrect again, the only thing that is demonstrably wrong here is that publically encouraging others to grief a specific player is against the EULA. The "suicidal bawwwww" stuff is just sensationalist nonsense. You don't hop to the defense every goddamned emo teen threatening to "kill themselvesLOL MY HEART IS DARK" do you? Same thing.
I agree, the game is the game.
They took it out of the game and were calling for an online lynching of a player at the behest of the mittani in a public venue.
Yeah no matter how many votes he got this is bad. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:36:00 -
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Karadan Kaarwen wrote:So let me get this straight. An Eve playing douche bag full of internet machismo is unable to distinguish the line between a game and reality, and says some really stupid stuff in the heat of the moment. Internet machismo guy is then unable to backtrack lest look weak in front of his equally ridiculous peers, so does the courageous thing by playing it up as 'nothing special'. Cue hordes of sycophants trying their level-best to defend said douche bag's actions using astonishing idiocy as their reasoning tool.
Why am i not surprised?
I have the feeling public attention over this will force CCP's hand and we won't see Mittani in CSM for much longer. That, or CCP actually want another enormous public relations disaster on their hands.
More or less. They still dont see how freaking serious this is and that it went too far.
Instead of apologizing like he should have mittens decided to dig a deeper hole on this issue.
Dude, mittens, you are wrong in this. Very wrong. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 19:39:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Repeat for every whiners convenience:
If the suicidal character feels that he/she has been harassed, he/she should file a petition to CCP.
This is nothing what we should be doing for him in these forums. We do not know anything about the individual and this all could turn out to be hoax. People have rights but it is not other man's work to try and enforce them. If this guy wants something, let him decide about his own actions and stop being silly drama queens
Hoax or not, this is a precedent setting moment.
Even if it was a hoax the implication of wanting to push a living person to their death is freaking sick and mental and evil. Almost as bad as defending and being a apologist for such actions is.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:15:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Xython wrote:Hikaru Kuroda wrote:And he represents the voice of the EVE player base? By an overwhelming majority, yes. DEAL WITH IT, PUBBIES It's called the Mittani Mandate...deal wiz it
Doesn't trump possibly criminal behavior. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:31:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sigh...I guess I need to actually find a video of these comments so I know what was *really* said.
Genuinely encouraging the harassment of suicidal players is certainly something CCP shouldn't allow. Online communities have saved the lives of suicidal people before, I'd hate for us to become the one that helped end one. But you have to take any such statement with a grain of salt: did Mittens *really* sound like that's what he wanted, or was it obviously a joke?
Sure the whole thing was in poor taste. That's par for the course for a Goon; if they didn't troll and **** off the rest of the universe, they wouldn't be doing their jobs.
the vid stutters and catches at a key moment. |
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 20:51:00 -
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I wonder what sony is going to think and say about this.
thats the Multi million dollar question. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:04:00 -
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Orkasm wrote:I'm calling 50 pages easy, not sure about 75 before the pubbie kiddies have to go to bed.
SONY?
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:Darius III wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Do us all a favor and step down. Do us all a favor and step down. You're useless irl
SONY?
Wonder what they think about people advocating people pushing others into killing themselves IRL. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:12:00 -
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Silas Kautsuo wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Pepinillos wrote:And no, nobody will threaten with suicide to get the scammer banned That's exactly what is happening in all of these threads. Harlot, do yourself a favour and just shut the hell up, you're defending a cretin who has no clue. You're trying way too hard and nobody really cares, he's shown his true colours, until now most of us could take or leave Mittens but now, he's proved he's not worthy of being on the CSM. You're pathetic attempts to defend this action aren't working, sorry and all that. Adapt or die.
Mittens blew it bit time. Plain and simple.
That you are still defending him is rather disturbing at this point. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:14:00 -
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Xython wrote:Kalathia Eginald wrote:Harassment is nasty as is encouraging it. If what he did is against the EULA and the TOS then regardless of what you I or anyone else thinks he deserves to be punished and only those in charge can decide that. Was it said in game? No? DEAL WITH IT.
Implying it has to be said in game.
Its freaking criminal in the states depending on where you live to do what he did.
Advocating for others to harass someone until they kill themselves is violence.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:16:00 -
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Hench Tenet wrote:Twulf wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly? Neither since he didn't do anything wrong. Wrong, He did something wrong, he tried to start an event to get someone to kill themselves, that is wrong. It does not matter how you spin it, it is wrong to try and push someone to kill themselves. PERIOD. End of Debate. Your parents failed as parents if you do not understand someting as simple as this. Everyone should know right from wrong at this point in their life, if not your parents were bad parents. It is wrong to try and gather a group of people who's goal is to push someone to kill themselves. How is that not wrong? Reguardless of this being a video game or not, trying to get someone to kill themselves is WRONG. You need to get a clue. Idiots like you are the problem with the world, too dumb to know how stupid they are. He didn't try and get anyone to do anything. Did you even watch the panel?
This is the part that skips in the vid people are pointing too.
GǣIncidentally, if you do want to make that guy kill himself his name isGǪ[details removed]. He has his own corp, find him.Gǥ
He is scum. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:17:00 -
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Leonard J Crabs wrote:The Mittani's action while they might be deplorable to some. Are just words and he deserves his position as Chairman of CSM7. He was duly elected by the people of Eve.
Recalls never happen right? |
RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:28:00 -
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Marduk Nibiru wrote:Xython wrote:You guys are noticing that most of the posts are now goons mocking you or people pointing out that you're all wrong, right? Thought I'd pop in and respond to this. I still think what Mittens said was majorly assholish. I also find a great deal of the statements made by his supporters in these threads to be rather disgusting. I just don't think there's anything new to say here. I don't spend all my life trying to convince The Westburough Baptists ******* that they're a bunch of cunts either....and they troll a lot harder than you lot. At some point you've just got to figure what's going to be will be. I suppose that if what Mitten's said and does actually mattered more than it does that I'd be more inclined to spend more time arguing with brick walls. As it is...I think I'd rather just chalk this off as another example of cultural decay in the modern world and move on with my all too short existence. Only people who've bought their own hype could believe that a group of howlers winning at the biggest noise contest could actually mean anything. Again, not a major sign of intelligence. Let the lemmings run off the cliff I say. If they think the group must know right, let them test that hypothesis.
Yeah cause none of use have had to deal with someone they love committing suicide or anything?
Sorry what he did is indefensible he crossed the line.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:31:00 -
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Aileren wrote:Twulf wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If The Mittani does in fact survive this, should I be impressed by his political/survival skills, or should I be disappointed that CCP failed to deal with the issue properly? Neither since he didn't do anything wrong. Wrong, He did something wrong, he tried to start an event to get someone to kill themselves, that is wrong. It does not matter how you spin it, it is wrong to try and push someone to kill themselves. PERIOD. End of Debate. Your parents failed as parents if you do not understand someting as simple as this. Everyone should know right from wrong at this point in their life, if not your parents were bad parents. It is wrong to try and gather a group of people who's goal is to push someone to kill themselves. How is that not wrong? Reguardless of this being a video game or not, trying to get someone to kill themselves is WRONG. You need to get a clue. Idiots like you are the problem with the world, too dumb to know how stupid they are. Prove actual malice please.
GǣIncidentally, if you do want to make that guy kill himself his name isGǪ[details removed]. He has his own corp, find him.Gǥ
Your making a joke right?
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:34:00 -
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Xython wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Marduk Nibiru wrote:Xython wrote:You guys are noticing that most of the posts are now goons mocking you or people pointing out that you're all wrong, right? Thought I'd pop in and respond to this. I still think what Mittens said was majorly assholish. I also find a great deal of the statements made by his supporters in these threads to be rather disgusting. I just don't think there's anything new to say here. I don't spend all my life trying to convince The Westburough Baptists ******* that they're a bunch of cunts either....and they troll a lot harder than you lot. At some point you've just got to figure what's going to be will be. I suppose that if what Mitten's said and does actually mattered more than it does that I'd be more inclined to spend more time arguing with brick walls. As it is...I think I'd rather just chalk this off as another example of cultural decay in the modern world and move on with my all too short existence. Only people who've bought their own hype could believe that a group of howlers winning at the biggest noise contest could actually mean anything. Again, not a major sign of intelligence. Let the lemmings run off the cliff I say. If they think the group must know right, let them test that hypothesis. Yeah cause none of use have had to deal with someone they love committing suicide or anything? Sorry what he did is indefensible he crossed the line. Yes, because people saying "kill yourself" or "die in a fire" or calling someone a "**********" or "***" or whatever completely and utterly represents the entirety of what they feel about the other person and isn't just pointless word-cruft that has no actual meaning. Dear god, I hope you asshats never discover Xbox live, you'd **** yourselves.
Thats not even remotely close to same thing as mittens the scum that he is did in this situation. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:35:00 -
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Wuxi Wuxilla wrote:Meryl SinGarda wrote:Xython wrote:penguin man wrote:Remove him **** off. Notice how Goons are mainly the only people defending him. Notice how NPC corp alts are mainly the only people attacking him.
Fraid not. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:37:00 -
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DooDoo Gum wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Dear NPC corp alt pubbie,
10,058 people don't agree with you. How are you so sure that 10,058 people knew about this ?
voting was done by the time this happened. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:27:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Twulf wrote:God how can you be this dumb? Says the guy who thinks US law covers the entire planet.
If you are from the USA you are subject to those laws even when visiting another country.
Its in the passport information when you go to get one. |
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Posted - 2012.03.26 22:51:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Even if CCP could close ranks before you think they will now with the worlds gaming press watching them like hawks and DUST just going into Beta
Yup this is not just a CCP issue. Its a SONY issue as well.
They cant turtle on this one with DUST coming out soon. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 12:57:00 -
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RogueMind wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote: Seriously, if you don't think The Mittani is competent, you haven't been paying attention for the past year.
You're right because being one of the people to take the lead on the public outcry during the hub riots and getting us on the road to all these improvements that have come and are coming is a bad thing.
You mean how he showed up way late for the riots and then took credit for them after initially not supporting them?
You serious? |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 13:24:00 -
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What makes me think the apology is just bull is that the goons are out in force doubling down on stupid in defense of cyber bullying.
The great leader says one thing, while the goons do another.
All that is left is he has to step down from the CSM totally now because of the actions of his goons at this point.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 14:19:00 -
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Kalathia Eginald wrote:Killer Gandry wrote: After Mittani's appology, do you still hold on to your defences that there was nothing to appologise about?
If you want to give his appology any credebility then why are you working so darn hard to devaluate his appology?
While I agree with the main part of the post I am commenting on the quoted. Yes they can. What someone sees as something worth appologising for is personal. I have appologised for behaviour where I have had friends saying it is nothing to appologise for. You also have to factor in instinctive behaviour. Generally when backed into a corner you come out fighting. They were backed into a corner and went on the defensive. After saying for so long it is nothing to appologise for they can't then do an about face, some people think it would show weakness and some are even raise to believe appologising is a weakness. All in all regardless of their personal aoppinion he has appologised and what they say really has no effect on the "value" or lak there of of that appology. It is only as meaningful as the person making it means it to be. Real adults know when to admit they are wrong. Are we surprised by the goons not getting it? |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:55:00 -
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I am becoming more and more disturbed by the fact the goons are not only pro Cyber Bullying.
But for cyber bullying to such and end as leading to suicide and murder by proxy.
Thats a very scary thing.
This is becoming even bigger then Alex. Its fine if you just mess with a guy in game, but once you take it out of game I think there is a major problem here.
They are basically saying its ok to murder people by proxy as a Corp/cult. Goons are defending killing people IRL.
This is a new level of messed up.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 17:58:00 -
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Karim alRashid wrote:I find especially hilarious the notion that CCP will maintain their ~credibility~ by removing any player representative, who they find inconvenient from a PR or bottom line point of view.
When that person basically called for a lynch mod to murder someone by forcing them to suicide?
I think your compass is broken. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:11:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:First off, it's not something I'd ever say personally and find objectionable because that's not what I do, but I'm not the goonest of the goons either so I also believe one has to keep a sense of proportion and perspective.
The Mittani, CEO of goonswarm and notorious ahole did a presentation, he did so in that quality. While he does also have a seat on the CSM, he didn't act in that capacity anymore than he did act as a lawyer, as an american or as a male. Saying it's the same thing would be akin to saying "American incite others to harass blokes, death to all americans".
Circumstances play a role, it's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers. There was also booze involved.
It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna?
The Mittani/Alex was the one calling for a lynch mob to go after someone to the point of death. Murder by proxies. Being drunk is not an excuse.
He needs to man up and step down from the CSM at minimum. He shouldn't have to discuss anything, he should have already done so.
The scarier thing is the Goons that are basically defending driving someone to their death. Its not about the specific person anymore its about the Goon culture. If they get away with it here there is now a green light to do it again down the road. Goons clamoring to defend this heinous bull is disturbing even for them. Just to defend their cult leader. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:20:00 -
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Kill Rockstar wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote: It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna? We pay CCP to maintain a game and do not expect to get screwed over by the devs with there money grabbing ways or miss direction of Incarna. People had a right to be mad at Soundwave, he is the dev of the game we all pay for be it in time or money, he is making a profit from us by providing a service, when we did not receive this "We was MAD". And I'm sure people did get banned over said incident. Mittens is a player and a CSM member, he did not change the game in a breaking way nor did he try and take our money, he just made a really douche bag move, which to an eve player is possibly acceptable, but explain the story to anyone outside of the "EVE MENTALITY" and see the results. TL:DR, That is a pretty stupid comparison.
Calling for someones death, even in jest since he was calling on others to do it for him whom might not have taken it as a joke is not something you can just let slide. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:24:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Meissa Anunthiel wrote:First off, it's not something I'd ever say personally and find objectionable because that's not what I do, but I'm not the goonest of the goons either so I also believe one has to keep a sense of proportion and perspective.
The Mittani, CEO of goonswarm and notorious ahole did a presentation, he did so in that quality. While he does also have a seat on the CSM, he didn't act in that capacity anymore than he did act as a lawyer, as an american or as a male. Saying it's the same thing would be akin to saying "American incite others to harass blokes, death to all americans".
Circumstances play a role, it's fanfest where goons spend days pretending to be idiots or griefers. There was also booze involved.
It's blown out of proportion, people would do well to get out of the lynch mentality and analyze the actual damage/impact for a moment before calling for blood, or are we requesting that CCP ban all those who "hoped" CCP Soundwave would die in a fire for InCarna? The Mittani/Alex was the one calling for a lynch mob to go after someone to the point of death. Murder by proxies. Being drunk is not an excuse. He needs to man up and step down from the CSM at minimum. He shouldn't have to discuss anything, he should have already done so. The scarier thing is the Goons that are basically defending driving someone to their death. Its not about the specific person anymore its about the Goon culture. If they get away with it here there is now a green light to do it again down the road. Goons clamoring to defend this heinous bull is disturbing even for them. Just to defend their cult leader. I'm certainly not going to defend the words he said, I'm just calling for a little sense of perspective. The goons didn't harass the guy to death. As a matter of fact when Wis was contacted he didn't even know about the whole afair. By that time (or near enough as makes no difference), mittens had apologized and called off the mob. No damage done. It shouldn't be condoned, but an apology and retraction is good enough for me if there was no damage. So was it tasteless, sure... but look at the damage that was actually done: none.
Only because they didnt have a chance too cause people got on top of the issue FAST.
Its not about what did happen but what might have happened. Or might happen again if not dealt with.
He called for someones death. When will this sink in. Even if it was a joke, many might have taken it to the logical conclusion if we didnt notice what he did. Heck people might still go after the person in question. I dont use the persons name on purpose and i would think others would do the same. The goons are the ones spreading the person name left and right even now. Even worse you are using the persons character name in your posts. Have some sense please. I have counter points to your he is not upset that i wont repost because I dont want him brought into it.
Its not just about him its about the next player this might happen too. And the precedent that must be set by CCP. |
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Posted - 2012.03.27 18:27:00 -
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Xython wrote:RougeOperator wrote:The Mittani/Alex was the one calling for a lynch mob to go after someone to the point of death. Murder by proxies. Being drunk is not an excuse. No one believes that except, well, I was going to say "you and the NPC sockpuppets", but they don't really believe that either. When someone in game tells me to commit self harm, consume fecal matter and expire, or perform oral sex on a large domesticated farm animal, they are obviously not actually intending me to do so -- it's smack talk, trash talk, and general e-peen wiggling. Alex, while drunk, forgot himself and brought this attitude out of his in game persona into his public persona. He was ashamed and apologized. Would he still say to harass someone in game as "The Mittani"? Probably. Would he do so with the intent to actually cause someone to kill themselves in real life? Hell no. Despite the foolish mewlings of a bunch of 13 year olds, Goons-the-Players aren't actually evil. We're just assholes. By intentionally acting disingenuous you are actively attempting to inflate this scandal in such a way to further an agenda. Anyone can tell this by simply watching the thread and your repeated, asinine posts. With that in mind, and with my aforementioned disclaimer about the difference between in game persona and public persona: I hope you commit a large amount of self harm, consume fecal matter and expire, or perhaps asphyxiate on a large amount of donkey excretions, you ignorant player of low skill, abysmal intellect, and dismal hygiene.
Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
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Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous.
Yeah cause getting behind someone that calls for someones death in real life is so cool?
Get your compass checked mate.
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Kallynda Nai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Most everyone believes with good cause the goons and maybe other more malicious people would have followed through on it if not for the people calling for an investigation. Putting a full stop to what might have happened.
Think about that, most think you would have happily murdered someone. Then laughed about it.
Proud of being a goon still?
Name these people. Cite your sources. Go on, I'll wait.
Scrolls through multiple threads...... Googles CCP investigates Cyberbullying ......
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Devil's Call wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Devil's Call wrote:It's funny how people take advantage of this mistake he made, and now do everything to see him hang. Just like real politics, right? I really hope he doesn't resign, that would be redicilous. Yeah cause getting behind someone that calls for someones death in real life is so cool? Get your compass checked mate. It sure isn't cool, and he's fully aware of that. Let him live in shame instead of getting him resigned.
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:CCP stance
"I want to reassure you that CCP in no way condones the harassment of players, especially those who suffer from depression or suicidal thoughts, as we understand the possible consequences of such abhorrent behaviour," CCP public relations and social media specialist Ned Coker said.
"Our Terms of Service (TOS), which can be found here, mirror our company's stance on this matter.
"While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, we do take very seriously accusations of such behaviour between our players.
"Furthermore, we have a suicide hotline protocol which has, in specific cases, made a difference for several unfortunately troubled players. We appreciate you voicing your concerns on this level, and CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation.
"We are undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials. Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others." In other words "We are commanding the Mitinni to post a public apology on the forums and then shut up for a few days while we hope this all blows over."
More or less thats what it seems they are trying to do.
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esc shk wrote:I'm still laughing at you guys using this event, which had no effect on the guy in question (seriously he gives not a single ****), as an excuse to get a democratically elected leader removed from his position merely because a few vocal morons posting under NPC Alts have an issue with suicide ganking and scamming, which are allowed under the EULA.
Underhanded politics indeed
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:busy little bees, give me your sweet nectar tears
goon tears best tears
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THE L0CK wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Quote:Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
Don't suppose you happen to have a tally sheet of all the goons who have attacked him since the quote do you? I imagine Mittens called them off when he because scared about losing his CSM position. But why don't you, like a good Goonie, lie about how you wouldn't have harassed him.......... Lie about why your aren't now. You know, cause it would be bad for Mittens. Please, by all means, continue the shameless lies. So, by your own admission no goon actually fulfilled this 'cyber bullying attack', which logically means that the attack never really took place. Or are we going by Minority Report standards? Also, I don't suppose you happen to have proof that I'm a goon do you, or is this just another error on your part?
The threat of violence still counts legally in most places mate.
This was a very clear Threat.
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
No idea who wrote this, but they are talking crap. Mittens was ASKED by some dude for the name, having mocked the tears of an anonymous miner - one of several, his presentation was a collection of tears - and said '"IF you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is The Wis" (Mittens then spelt the name out a few times) Notice how he did not order anyone to harrass this guy at all? People are just jumping on the bandwagon without knowing what actually went on. Sure, Mittens was a tool, an inibriated tool, but he is not guiltly of cyberbullying or whatever other charge people are labelling him with.
GǣIncidentally, if you do want to make that guy kill himself his name isGǪ[details removed]. He has his own corp, find him.Gǥ
This is the part that is mysteriously skipping on the YT vid.
then
GÇ£ItGÇÖs pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel GÇô it always has been, if youGÇÖve been to one.
Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.GÇ¥
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Mistress Lilu wrote:Off with his head. Its one thing to troll in game, but it is another thing to take eve into RL and troll in real life.
Definition for cyber bullying: Web definitions: Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior... By that definition, you are guilty of cyber bullying the mittani. You should be ashamed of yourself, all of you.
None of us are being hostile.
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Mistress Lilu wrote:Off with his head. Its one thing to troll in game, but it is another thing to take eve into RL and troll in real life.
Definition for cyber bullying: Web definitions: Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior... By that definition, you are guilty of cyber bullying the mittani. You should be ashamed of yourself, all of you. None of us are being hostile. Asking for a public person to step down from the CSM is not hostile. Some of the posts on here are pretty hostile... maybe not those made by you, but by the 'crucify mittens' crowd.
So cut the generalizations crap out. And name names if thats the case.
Not asking much here.
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Quote:The part where he "repeatedly went after the guy" was when he ordered thousands of Goonies to harass him. I have no idea how even a Goon could be shameless enough to ignore the fact telling thousands of your fellow scum to attack someone is harassment.....
Wow, you guys really are shameless.
No idea who wrote this, but they are talking crap. Mittens was ASKED by some dude for the name, having mocked the tears of an anonymous miner - one of several, his presentation was a collection of tears - and said '"IF you want to make this guy kill himself, his name is The Wis" (Mittens then spelt the name out a few times) Notice how he did not order anyone to harrass this guy at all? People are just jumping on the bandwagon without knowing what actually went on. Sure, Mittens was a tool, an inibriated tool, but he is not guiltly of cyberbullying or whatever other charge people are labelling him with. GÇ£Incidentally, if you do want to make that guy kill himself his name isGǪ[details removed]. He has his own corp, find him.GÇ¥This is the part that is mysteriously skipping on the YT vid. then GÇ£ItGÇÖs pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel GÇô it always has been, if youGÇÖve been to one.
Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.GÇ¥http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/bully-pulpit/ If he had actually said something along the lines of "Go spam this guy until he commits suicide, here is his address and real life name, I command you all to harrass this man" then I would agree with you guys completely. But he didnt. He said "IF you do want to make that guy kill himself..." There is a world of difference between telling a room full of people to go harrass someone, and providing the name of a guy to another dude who was asking for the name. Just saying.
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Xython wrote:You mean the scandal that didn't erupt until the fat ******** pubbies and LEETPVP alts realized that Mittani had, gasp, won again?
He didnt do it until the end of fanfest you noob.
How are we supposed to react before he sends harassment horde after a guy to kill him.
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Frederick Sanger wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:War Kitten wrote:All you "Cyberbullying" ninnies, get your terminology strait. From http://www.stopcyberbullying.org/what_is_cyberbullying_exactly.html : "Cyberbullying" is when a child, preteen or teen is tormented, threatened, harassed, humiliated, embarrassed or otherwise targeted by another child, preteen or teen using the Internet, interactive and digital technologies or mobile phones. It has to have a minor on both sides, or at least have been instigated by a minor against another minor. Once adults become involved, it is plain and simple cyber-harassment or cyberstalking. Adult cyber-harassment or cyberstalking is NEVER called cyberbullying.These are grown-ass men. It's not cyberbullying. Which makes it harassment, which is serious ******* business (not that cyber bullying isn't). Its a criminal charge. It's not even cyber harassment considering it occurred within the confines of a leisure activity under an role-playing identity and did not infringe on his privacy or encroach his private space. Also, this is a middle-age person we are talking about not a child at school or even an adult in a professional environment. If you think this is in anyway an actual crime you desperately need to gain some perspective.
I like how none of that is really relevant as to why what Alex dis is reprehensible.
What if it was a 12 year old, or a person that only had good enough hand eye coordination to mine (i know 2 such people that like the game but cant play like a normal person). it doesn't become OK all the sudden cause you learned more about the person.
There in lies the crux of the issue. You dont know enough about the person.
And it was at and out of game even with thousands watching.
With a powerful cult of personality saying go after this person.
He painted a big target on him, the equivalent of dousing him in gasoline. And his followers would have acted on his JOKE. |
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Kallynda Nai wrote:
Yeah its the difference between manslaughter and Murder1/2. But someone is still dead.
Nobody's dead you shitbeard.[/quote]
Luckily yes, a bullet was dodged cause everyone got on top of this issue ASAP.
Try making a point without swearing.
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Lomarro wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:
Yeah its the difference between manslaughter and Murder1/2. But someone is still dead.
Nobody's dead you shitbeard. Luckily yes, a bullet was dodged cause everyone got on top of this issue ASAP. Try making a point without swearing. Might do you some good.
yeah and it was not you or someone else because everyone was getting the pitchforks [/quote]
I believe he needs to step down from the CSM as was his original 3 point plan. If he does not he has no good faith left and the CSM becomes a sham.
Thats what i have asked for. Its the bare minimum that must happen for this to be taken seriously. A wishy washy apology that comes off as just trying to keep his CSM spot is an insult.
What he did warrants a punishment with teeth. Real justice.
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Darc Kaahar wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:I just delved into your twitter feed. You are an angry little midget. You have no idea.
SHHHHhhhhhhh
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Mr M wrote:Snow Axe wrote:The alliance presentation (where he said DOSE MEAN THINGS!!!) was on Friday Election results Saturday Dramabomb about this all Sunday/Monday
DERP DERP DERP I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M ACTUALLY USPET ABOUT ANYMORE MITTANI MUST GO I didn't say anything for a couple of days because I was so drunk :mittani:
Yeah, the goons did a huge amount of damage to the mittani in this. Let alone what he did on his own. |
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RougeOperator wrote:I think its pretty clear based on the Goons actions and comments during this time make it very clear that they would have indeed followed up on the mittanis call to harass a person to suicide. Joke or not.
Look at how is apology contradicts what they are doing and saying in most of their posts. He clearly does not have enough control of them to have been able to pull them back from going to fare pursing his push a player until he breaks IRL mentality.
This is no longer damning of just the mittani but also the Goons and their reaction to all this.
If they hadnt gotten the clue from a CCP INVESTIGATION that this was prob a bad idea I dont want to think what they would have done to the person mittens was trying to get them to harass.
He is a leader of a cult of GOONs. A leader of a cult, and a cult of personality. That would have damn well followed up on his "joke."
Its all right out in the open considering how they are acting even after his apology for all to see.
This is why he must be removed from the CSM. Cause the Goons wont get it otherwise.
This is the legacy of the goons and mittani if Alex is not held accountable and punished for what he did.
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Heet Crusher wrote:Just putting my two cents in. I watch it in HD stream and When it happen I was like there is a Goon doing some stupid and ignorant. The FANFEST is suppose to be a festival of ALL fans and employess of this great game and company CCP. And for someone to use it as a bully pulpit and to use his AUTHORITY as a large alliance leader and CHAIRMAN OF CSM to help grief a fellow player because he is having a rough time in RL and is having mental stabilty issues is outright disgusting and beyond all belief. Also he claims he is a attorney , well he obviously is not a very good one if one at all.
CCP fire his ass and replace with someone with a little more class and dignity and ban his account 30 days
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KanashiiKami wrote:this clip does not have the ending part where he asked other players to taunt him .... but even w/o that ... he did enough damage to himself and eve ...
youtube (dot) com (slash) watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI
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Kallynda Nai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:this clip does not have the ending part where he asked other players to taunt him .... but even w/o that ... he did enough damage to himself and eve ...
youtube (dot) com (slash) watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI Funny how the critical spot became non working all the sudden. Aint it. Not really. That's not the original video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI
01.12.00
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Snow Axe wrote:Flamespar wrote:I don't know why people are making the excuse that he was drunk
He did go to the trouble of making a powerpoint presentation that included his conversation with this player, before the alliance panel. I presume he was sober when he did that. Nobody is upset because of him mentioning that guy's email at all, they're upset about him blabbing the guy's name in the Q&A afterwards, which is where the "he was drunk" part comes into play. If it was actually his intent to share the guy's name, it would have been part of the presentation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI
1:12:00
seems maybe a bit more then half serious about calling for them to harass someone to a real life death.
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Snow Axe wrote:RougeOperator wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI
1:12:00
seems maybe a bit more then half serious about calling for them to harass someone to a real life death.
even worse if you watch the presentation and then the Q&A back to back You can link that all you want, I've seen it. Did you just see it now or something, because you're spamming it more than usual. Wouldn't be surprised if you did, it'd at least explain how you didn't even seem to know when any of these events actually happened a few hours ago.
I saw the original Stream.
The you tube ones cut the part that was relevant.
I finally found a full uncut HD copy
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Snow Axe wrote:RougeOperator wrote:I saw the original Stream.
The you tube ones cut the part that was relevant.
I finally found a full uncut HD copy
Not hard to figure out. Oh, you saw the original stream. Does that mean you were lying when you tried to pretend like there wasn't a several day gap between the alliance panel comments and the forum outrage, or are you just stupendously bad at math?
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Jan VanRijkdom wrote:Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:The Mittani wrote:You're not a valid subscriber, you're a NPC alt. The opinions of NPC alts don't count for anything.
~10,058~ Oh my humble apologies for tarnishing your great reputation, Mittani the Great. I just hope that you think twice before asking thousands of other players to partake in an act to provoke a mentally unstable person to commit suicide. Where is ANY proof that this 'mentally unstable' person was as he claimed? Can't anyone claim anything? Link to the MD diagnosis or I say it's just some emo kid being an emo kid.
he dosent have too. He was threatened with then end result of death.
His current or past mental stability actually dont have to come into play at all in this case. Nor does anyone's for that matter.
What was done is wrong irrespective of that.
Actually not knowing the mental state at all is more damning for anyone that would do what the mittani suggested.
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:Kallynda Nai wrote:KanashiiKami wrote:anyway, i did submit a petition to CCP requesting for full player BAN for ALEX.
if you think the same as me, that alex shud be BANNED. i think you should officially petition it too. Rerpoted for harassment. BAM! Can you taste that ******* irony!? pls explain my method of harrassment? Harassing people on the forums to bully CCP to ban someone, who has already formally apologized and even payed for any damages (both mental and virtual) out of his own pocket, when the "injured" party (who is reported to be in fine health by the way) barely even remembers, or very much cares about the event that caused him to sent that E-Mail mentioned in the alliance panel. Stop being so butthurt over this. Everybody is fine (physically and mentally), and have said their mea culpas (The Mittani). Everybody should just chill the hell out, and get back to blowing each other up, rather than blowing up the forums.
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Akelorian wrote:Jade, making a valid point will only have goons mock you, and the forum police delete your posts. I find it rather pathetic though that CCP has taken this long to investigate a segment thats recorded. Unless they can't find out where in the presentation he actually said these things, perhaps we should just point them out in a timeline for CCP.
Its taking this long most likely cause CCP has to have their legal beagles going over all sorts of stuff.
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:Akelorian wrote:Jade, making a valid point will only have goons mock you, and the forum police delete your posts. I find it rather pathetic though that CCP has taken this long to investigate a segment thats recorded. Unless they can't find out where in the presentation he actually said these things, perhaps we should just point them out in a timeline for CCP. They are hoping this will blow over so they don't behead the swarm. Bee hives have a nasty habit of going crazy when the Queen dies.....
Tough when you have to make adult decisions. But they have to be made. They are a company with responsibilities and they cannot be found to support cyber bullying beyond the in game versions. This stepped beyond the in game versions of grief. This was calling for a real live person to die.
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Yeah after showing my dad the vid and the actions of the goons on these threads the last few days Im in full on Ban the mittani territory.
The trolls that are still on going by the goons tell me that just him stepping down is not going to send the right message.
Full on ban time. |
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de4deye wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Yeah after showing my dad the vid and the actions of the goons on these threads the last few days Im in full on Ban the mittani territory.
The trolls that are still on going by the goons tell me that just him stepping down is not going to send the right message.
Full on ban time. I think most people notice how Mitten's half assed apology is fake and he feels no remorse. It is obvious he is trying to save face, which didn't work, which makes him look like an even bigger douche now.
Yeah full on ban now. Anything less is weakness on ccps part.
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THE L0CK wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Yeah full on ban now. Anything less is weakness on ccps part.
Let the goon pubbies rage for a few months.
Does your name imply that you are a makeup application specialist?
And if i was?
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THE L0CK wrote:RougeOperator wrote:THE L0CK wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Yeah full on ban now. Anything less is weakness on ccps part.
Let the goon pubbies rage for a few months.
Does your name imply that you are a makeup application specialist? And if i was? No biggie, was just curious. I smeared the path of this thread a little, you guys go back to your mascara.
Onwards and upwards then.
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Xython wrote:THE L0CK wrote:RougeOperator wrote:THE L0CK wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Yeah full on ban now. Anything less is weakness on ccps part.
Let the goon pubbies rage for a few months.
Does your name imply that you are a makeup application specialist? And if i was? No biggie, was just curious. I smeared the path of this thread a little, you guys go back to your mascara. It's hilarious that the Mittani Cyberstalker (one of many) screwed up his NPC Sockpuppet name. I propose we reply to him with relevant pictures to his name from now on. Case in point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blush_and_blush_brush.jpg^^ Rouge Operator.
Cause it doesn't mean Red in French or anything...................
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Lord Reid wrote:Pubbies, don't ya just love 'em?
Sure do the goon pubbies rage is the best.
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Rodj Blake wrote:de4deye wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Akelorian wrote:Jade, making a valid point will only have goons mock you, and the forum police delete your posts. I find it rather pathetic though that CCP has taken this long to investigate a segment thats recorded. Unless they can't find out where in the presentation he actually said these things, perhaps we should just point them out in a timeline for CCP. Its taking this long most likely cause CCP has to have their legal beagles going over all sorts of stuff. I'm still suprised that CCP has nothing to say after 2 days of all this... You've clearly never seen how CCP deals with controversy then.
yeah what it takes them two weeks for even simple yes no questions.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:26:00 -
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Xython wrote:Nick Bison wrote:Xython wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Or the ones that can meta game better than the goons? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Is really funny as it's not "My CEO" and not "My Chairman" who's head is on the block. No, it's funny that the stupid ******* think that Mittani is in any actual danger. I mean christ, these Internet E-Lawyers actually were "very serious posting" about how Mittani is guilty of Cyberbullying and he could be arrested and put in prison, tut tut, very serious. Morons. We're posting in this thread (and the other one) because watching the clueless fucks run around going "oh god oh god we FINALLY GOT THAT EVIL GOONIE~" is some of the best chat **** we've seen in goddamned ages. Let me spell that out for all the pubbies: We're farming this thread for your outrage. Delicious tears, geddit? Hell, this will probably be it's own slide on Mittani's slideshow next year.
This is the funniest post in the thread so far.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:40:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:Comrade Commizzar wrote:Either The Mittani is banned under the EULA for "harrassment"...
or the EULA is meaningless. Choose CCP. You can't have it both ways. EULA doesn't apply to out of game interactions.
TOS and CSM guidelines would like to have a word with you.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:19:00 -
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MIrple wrote:With this witch hunt all you people have started. Please remember that you also will reap what you sow. If you push so hard for Mittens to get banned please don't wine when CCP bans you for something they consider bulling in game. If you think that this witch hunt will only affect him and no one else you are sadly a fool.
Witch hunt implies he did nothing wrong and is just being persecuted.
Sucks about it all being on video huh. Kinda ruins that Witch hunt concept you want to spin into the narrative.
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:25:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:Most of us are geeks playing eve. Most of us have been bullied, infact that what makes us the worst bullies of all. The bullied are the worst bullies because they feel that since they were once the victim they can't do any thing wrong.
Hence the Flaming of Mittani. We are all taking our being bullied frustrations on him.
So what have you done for the victim? I was able to find him, offered to sit on guard in an Ospray with reps encase gankers came. and offered while I had the standing to keep attacking a GSC to summon the concord till my standing was no longer. I was told that was not needed. So I left. But I have left an offer to call me if he needed help in the future... Leaving him a GÇ£markerGÇ¥
Am I saying what the Mittani did was over the top. Yes! I also think a goon mind set was in place when he put the slide show together, with out removing the name of the individual from the post- (a goon needs an internet space ship face on his victim.) I also think the combination of Alcohol and per pressure to be the goon leader in front of his fellow goons in the audience caused his over the top reaction to go after a victim.
Personally I think that at Fan Feast anyone doing any formal presentation must be sober during those presentation. Which includes Alliance panel. Any Presentation involving the Live Stream needs to have an active moderator on stand by to circumvent the repeat of what happened.
So what can we do to prevent this from happening again:
No sharing of personal information. No Alcohol on any formal panel. The Alliance Leadership Panel is now to be seen as an official panel. A CCP representative now aware of what to look for leading the panel especially if it will be live streamed.
Banning Mittens?.. is punishing the symptom not fixing the problem. As there will always be another mittens just under a different name.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:20:00 -
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Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Mittani the Great resigned!
Thats a funny way of saying stripped of his position by CCP. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air. |
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:57:00 -
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Kajurei Delainen wrote:No one else thought it was funny watching him over the net, I'm sure his three drunk comrades on the panel didn't comprehend the depravity of his words. Even crowd members were asking him to shut up long before they got to his presentation. To The Mittani it was not a joke either, that is the way he is, a disgusting, morally depraved person, in need of therapy. He's been banned from the game for only 30days until April 28th. He should be perma-banned from the CSM for sure. He's alliance should kick him out, for the same reason CCP kicked him out - he's a depraved person. To Mittani - your members are not mad at CCP as you guess in your speech to your followers. They are mad at you, you let them down, you made them all look bad. Head of Goonswarm is where you need to resign from as well. Your time in eve has passed. Good riddance. Heimatar Auctioneer wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:-1
Stop whining. He acted fine Are you kidding me? Encouraging other players to partake in a possible suicide of a mentally unstable person is "acting fine?" Its a joke. I know. But it has gone too far.
I think you are underestimating the fact the goons are just as bad as him.
They are a cancer in this game.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 05:52:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:EVE is now a worse place. good job sheep.
Not tolerating calling for peoples deaths IRL makes eve worse?
How so. Do elaborate on this for us. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.03.29 06:28:00 -
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Zhade Lezte wrote:Correct your post OP, Mitanni agreed to resign from the chairman seat and was removed from the CSM by CCP, disenfranchising 10,058 voters.
Just because CCP marketing tried to spin it otherwise doesn't mean it's the truth. Their own devblog says it, he resigned from the chairmanship and "forfeited" his status as regular CSM member.
You were not disfranchised you got to vote.
Your boy blew it for you.
take it up with him.
Alternates exist or a reason.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.03.29 08:20:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Now on to the revote for csm 7, 10,000 people need to revote in these fair elections.
~ deal with it ~
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:37:00 -
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http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-lee-settlement-20120329,0,7063902.story
But how was spike lee supposed to know people would take his twitter seriously. It was on just a twitter post. Why would people have to flee their home in fear over that.
Notice how Spike lee got sued and had to face the music for his irresponsible actions that put people at risk.
Just some food for thought. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:43:00 -
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Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland.
The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.04.01 03:22:00 -
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Jet Aeon wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Jet Aeon wrote:No DiceBuddy wrote:the whole thing is dumb. He should still be CSM. If you serve alcohol at an event like this, mistakes will happen. not like he gave the dudes name out in real life or anything. he just gonna win it next year. Goons will still troll eve and kick ass in the north. Nothing changed. now off to find myself a miner to gank. The definition of dumb is blaming this on CCP servering alcohol. Mittani wasn't drunk when he prepared his presentation and created the slide. He had days to rethink his blundered plan well before he got drunk. Well before he even touched the ground in Iceland. The spin coming from the Mittani and the goons on this is rather poor when you get down to it. Yeah, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of clever spin from the Goons. I expected better. I guess Mittani's actions are just that sad that even his desiples are a bit off kilter.
Well its something very hard to defend.
Then it was on tape.
Then the recording of the goonion didn't help.
Then the twitter storm.
Then the EvE radio interview came off partially like charlie sheen.
Its really a mess.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.04.01 07:47:00 -
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Sir Marksalot wrote:
you're obsessed with mittani and you have a terrible misspelt name
are you a the internet brothel guy or the nda guy
Im humbled by the originality of this posts troll.
let me stop the freaking presses.
That aside...
Internet brothel guy? NDA is darius or ankasfagdgfaf however thats spelled.
Whats the brothel guy? Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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Posted - 2012.04.01 08:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Im humbled by the originality of this posts troll.
let me stop the freaking presses.
That aside...
Internet brothel guy? NDA is darius or ankasfagdgfaf however thats spelled.
Whats the brothel guy? I'm curious myself.
Its got to be old if another goon doesnt know it. Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish. "and for a moment i hurd 10k goons cry out, then silence"-á |
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