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ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 18:58:00 - [1] ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! "I shall Dispense No MercY"
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2008.09.06 18:59:00 - [2] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 dumbest --
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:00:00 - [3] Terrible troll. I hope. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Mui Mui Independent Pilots	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:02:00 - [4] Yes. If you think that is dumb - then stay docked.
ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:02:00 - [5] No, I mean it. IS IT TRUE that you can get jumped by another EVE player while you are doing a mission? If so then that's a rather stupid thing to add into a mission. "I shall Dispense No MercY"
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:02:00 - [6] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! If you're in low security space, you are not safe. Anywhere. Even in high security space you can still be attacked, but the attackers will be destroyed by Concord - though, possibly, not until after your ship's gone boom. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Zeknichov Realm Industries	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:03:00 - [7] Edited by: Zeknichov on 06/09/2008 19:03:31 I would say go back to WoW but even in WoW you can get jumped while doing a quest. Perhaps you should try this http://www.agkidzone.com/games.action
ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Mui Mui Yes. If you think that is dumb - then stay docked. But what would be the point of that? You are doing missions for God's sake! I was not aware that other players could access the same mission you are on. No more missions for me if that's the case. "I shall Dispense No MercY"
ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Zeknichov Edited by: Zeknichov on 06/09/2008 19:03:31 I would say go back to WoW but even in WoW you can get jumped while doing a quest. Perhaps you should try this http://www.agkidzone.com/games.action I've never played WOW, nor intend to play it in the future. I just never realized that the dirty pirates could come into my missions while I'm doing them. Thank GOD I found out in time. "I shall Dispense No MercY"
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:09:00 - [10] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 Originally by: Mui Mui Yes. If you think that is dumb - then stay docked. But what would be the point of that? You are doing missions for God's sake! I was not aware that other players could access the same mission you are on. No more missions for me if that's the case. To be frank, no ≡v≡ for you. You cannot escape PvP in this game, no matter what you do. You are always at risk (Mui Mui is actually softening the blow for you — you can be bitten pretty hard even while docked). Welcome to a pure-PvP game.
mechtech Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:09:00 - [11] you can keep your scanner open and check for probes, as well as keep an eye on local and look for pirates. Anyway, you're almost 100% safe (never totally safe, if someone wants to waste 100m isk and suicide into you, they can) if you're not in lowsec.
Hungo Minmatar Research And Tactics Zeta Tau Epsilon	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:12:00 - [12] Originally by: Zeknichov Edited by: Zeknichov on 06/09/2008 19:03:31 I would say go back to WoW but even in WoW you can get jumped while doing a quest. Perhaps you should try this http://www.agkidzone.com/games.action And then i would reply have you even played WOW, because Judging from your smacktard REPLY i do at this point very much doubt it So in the words of me leading a fleet STFU U NOOB
Havohej Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:13:00 - [13] Got it straight, yet? Good Originally by: CCP Explorer You can still steal their stuff.
Victor Forge Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Hungo Originally by: Zeknichov Edited by: Zeknichov on 06/09/2008 19:03:31 I would say go back to WoW but even in WoW you can get jumped while doing a quest. Perhaps you should try this http://www.agkidzone.com/games.action And then i would reply have you even played WOW, because Judging from your smacktard REPLY i do at this point very much doubt it Ahem, missions in WoW are often not instanced. So they can be and will be jumped when doing quests in pvp realm. Although that, being WoW is pointless pvp. And I agree that http://www.agkidzone.com/games.action is the right thing for Op.
murder one Gallente Invincible Reason	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:25:00 - [15] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Lulz. [07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now? [07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2 Fleet Combat Ships
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:26:00 - [16] Just wait until you get jumped while inside the station. hint: Don't go AFK docked. Black Hand.
Piper Halliwell Minmatar Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:30:00 - [17] OMG what a terrible thread. Read up on your damn games before you start playing. Oh and when you leave because you are not playing some mindless console game that you can run around without interaction with anyone, CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF? -------------------- You've got a gun, I've got a gun, Let's write a tragic ending.
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:30:00 - [18] ...If this isn't a "Troll" then the OP is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Zin Zy	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:33:00 - [19] You got it straight, OP. Adapt or quit
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:34:00 - [20] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Yes you can be jumped by anyone in a mission but that is a blanket statement. 1. Between 1.0 and 0.5 the odds of being unprovoked attacked in a mission while not at war with another corporation are generally less than 50% and likely to drop to significantly when the new concord rules are fully implimented. This percentage drops further you climb the security level of a system (IE being attacked in 0.9-1.0 is nearly unheard of). For someone to attack you in your mission area without concord interfearing they need to first bait you into firing on them (IE they steal from a wreck). 2. Being attacked while in mission in 0.4-0.0 however is far more likely as concord will not interfear. Remember to watch local for pirates. If a system is high in pirates, dont do the mission at that time. 3. Another thing to factor is how well your ship is fitted. If you are flying a godly tanked and armed ship, chances are a potental attacker wont risk it. If however you dont know what you are doing, the odds go up. In short, ignorance wont save you. Know what the deal is, know your surroundings and know what your ship can do otherwise your game. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Jacob Mei Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Yes you can be jumped by anyone in a mission but that is a blanket statement. 1. Between 1.0 and 0.5 the odds of being unprovoked attacked in a mission while not at war with another corporation are generally less than 50% and likely to drop to significantly when the new concord rules are fully implimented. This percentage drops further you climb the security level of a system (IE being attacked in 0.9-1.0 is nearly unheard of). For someone to attack you in your mission area without concord interfearing they need to first bait you into firing on them (IE they steal from a wreck). 2. Being attacked while in mission in 0.4-0.0 however is far more likely as concord will not interfear. Remember to watch local for pirates. If a system is high in pirates, dont do the mission at that time. 3. Another thing to factor is how well your ship is fitted. If you are flying a godly tanked and armed ship, chances are a potental attacker wont risk it. If however you dont know what you are doing, the odds go up. In short, ignorance wont save you. Know what the deal is, know your surroundings and know what your ship can do otherwise your game. Now this is what I call a good straight answer. Thank you for that. Very informative. "I shall Dispense No MercY"
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:39:00 - [22] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Isn't it awesome though? In fact, you can be attacked, stolen from, scammed, etc, etc! I mean, did you read any of the website before playing the game? Any of the new players guide, that kind of thing? Because even the frigging' tutorial woman explains that you are constantly in danger. It amazes me how many players jump into the game, having never done the tutorial, read the new player guides, or taken any steps to alleviate their own ignorance, and then come and complain because the game isn't what their preconceived notions say it should be. Not that I'm really meaning this as a rag on the Op. But it still is one of those things where you have to ask yourself, how many times does CCP have to tell you that you are in danger before you realize that maybe being 'in danger' isn't something you want or like? Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:40:00 - [23] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 No, I mean it. IS IT TRUE that you can get jumped by another EVE player while you are doing a mission? If so then that's a rather stupid thing to add into a mission. This just in: we're all in the same space and anywhere you can go I can go. Kind of different to other games, eh? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:45:00 - [24] Do realise you need to be scanned down first. (not that that takes a long time, but you're not open to "jumping" without that step) So a potential assailant needs to a) Know you are in space/in a mission b) Have the equipment and skills to scan you down c) Take the time to do so. Ninja Salvagers work exactly the same way, they just tend to leave the mission runner alone to steal all the salvage.
Lazarann Caldari Ideal Machine Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:46:00 - [25] If you're in empire I wouldn't worry about it. If you're in 0.0 - 0.4 just watch out for probes and you'll be fine. It's not like they can just go right to your mission. It's not easy to probe people out in deadspace missions either, so whoever it is will need some patience to find you, and I would hope by then you would have figured it out and left.
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:52:00 - [26] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 I will go back to my mining ways. BTW people can steal your ORE too, so enjoy that "safety" over missions. In this game the only time you are even close to 100% safe is when you are docked. That is the beauty of this game, what makes it so endearing to many of us. If you have a problem with that concept then Eve is most likely not the game for you. --- OK my ore thief friends, he seems to think that mininig is "SAFE". Might I suggest a trip to your favorite locator agents, to "teach" him about the "safety" of eve, undocked. --
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:53:00 - [27] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 Originally by: Ruze Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 ...You can get "Jumped" by a player WHILE you are in a mission? If so that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! Isn't it awesome though? In fact, you can be attacked, stolen from, scammed, etc, etc! I mean, did you read any of the website before playing the game? Any of the new players guide, that kind of thing? Because even the frigging' tutorial woman explains that you are constantly in danger. It amazes me how many players jump into the game, having never done the tutorial, read the new player guides, or taken any steps to alleviate their own ignorance, and then come and complain because the game isn't what their preconceived notions say it should be. Not that I'm really meaning this as a rag on the Op. But it still is one of those things where you have to ask yourself, how many times does CCP have to tell you that you are in danger before you realize that maybe being 'in danger' isn't something you want or like? Yeah, I jumped into the game without reading much of anything. I started mining, buying and selling to make money. I haven't done any missions until yesterday, and I've been in this game a while. I was more focused on making money. Yesterday I started the missions because I heard you can make a lot of money from them. I find the mission enjoyable, but then I read somewhere that other players could "jump" you in one of your missions. I was a little shocked by that so I came here to confirm it, and I guess its true. I can deal with it, but I still think its stupid, and I won't do anymore missions. its just that simple. I will go back to my mining ways. FYI, if you are worried about losing cash, Ninja Looters can only take your salvage from your wrecks. There are instances of players goin in to kill the ships as well but thats realitively rare in my experience. Should someone try to steal from you you can just blow up your own wrecks to deny them. From what it sounds like you really need to read the guides. If you are looking for 100% safe way to make money in large amounts, it doesnt exist in this game, even in mining (I mined for a year and at best only made 15-20 mill an hour, that was with another account and the risk of being stolen from). As I said earlyer, know your situation, determine the risks, and all that jazz. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:55:00 - [28] In general you're not at much risk in high-sec, but yes they can enter your mission if they choose to try and scan you down. Note that that isn't as easy or likely as you might think. Sofar I've had someone enter a mission of mine twice (salvagers in both cases) but considering i've probably run hundreds of missions, I don't think it is that much of a problem.
ThoRHammer6213 Gallente MINER's GUILD INC	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Locke DieDrake Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 Yeah, I jumped into the game without reading much of anything. I started mining, buying and selling to make money. I haven't done any missions until yesterday, and I've been in this game a while. I was more focused on making money. Yesterday I started the missions because I heard you can make a lot of money from them. I find the mission enjoyable, but then I read somewhere that other players could "jump" you in one of your missions. I was a little shocked by that so I came here to confirm it, and I guess its true. I can deal with it, but I still think its stupid, and I won't do anymore missions. its just that simple. I will go back to my mining ways. You know you can be jumped while mining and trading too right? Yes, but I made certain that I was, and am prepared for that which I have demonstrated many times. I don't care if someone tries to steal my ore while I'm mining because there's plenty more ore where that came from, so PVPing over a can of ore is rather stupid. Now if I had a iteron loaded down with Jaspet, or some 0.0 ore that amounted to 13,000m^3, cargo capacity, and someone decided they wanted to take it, I would fight because by losing that fight my Insurance would pay out handsomely, and in many ways the Pirate would actually "assist" me in making more money. "I shall Dispense No MercY"
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2008.09.06 19:58:00 - [30] Originally by: ThoRHammer6213 I find the mission enjoyable, but then I read somewhere that other players could "jump" you in one of your missions. I was a little shocked by that so I came here to confirm it, and I guess its true. I can deal with it, but I still think its stupid, and I won't do anymore missions. its just that simple. I will go back to my mining ways. Dude... you started running missions, and now you're abandoning them because you heard from someone else that you're not completely safe in them? Newsflash: you're not completely safe when mining either. People can and will steal your ore, or instead they'll sacrifice their ships to blow you up just for kicks. By your logic, it's time to quit Eve. -- Eventus stultorum magister.

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