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Somealt Ofmine	Posted - 2008.09.09 23:27:00 - [31] Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 09/09/2008 23:28:16 The pirates in the Caldari/Gal parts of black rise seem to be having a great time. You should base out of Tama, and roam the pipe between there and Old Man Star. Plenty of targets.
Xzar Fyrarr Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.09.09 23:58:00 - [32] One of these days I'm gonna become a full time solo pirate. Just need to get my mission running alt into a geddon first... F war blobs are starting to bore me.
My'kel An'jelo Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.09.10 00:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr One of these days I'm gonna become a full time solo pirate. Just need to get my mission running alt into a geddon first... F war blobs are starting to bore me. <insert obligatory lolwatminmatar complaining about blobbing comment>
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.09.10 00:10:00 - [34] SO there I was yesterday....in losec with sec status sitting sooo very close to non-outlaw status when I come across a mission-running Apoc. Sadly missed the Apoc....but got the salvager DD scoring a quick and painless boost to the wallet (around 5-7 mill-ish) for the cost of a Snoop probe. ** the sec status...it feels good sneaking up...decloaking..kablammo (ok neut neut then kablammo) . Anyway...ISK should never be a worry as long as you treat being a pirate as a business (good fights...while fun...are not good for business if you lose a ship). And ransom high . "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the ** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:42:42 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:33:56 Also, a few more bits of advice: - Don't kill the pods outright. Ransom them. You'd think it was obvious, but a ton of people fail to do so. - Remember, the trick of getting fights solo is making the other guy think he's got the advantage while, in fact, you do. Flying the obviously awesome ship is a awesome way to not get fights. People need to think they can take you or they'll try to avoid combat at any costs. - Salvage T2 wrecks given the opportunity. Else you might as well be killing T2 fit T1 cruisers instead of HACs, actual loot obtained is often on par, sad but true. - If it's a young player in a ship he shouldn't be in and you're off gate, try to ransom him. The loot is going to be crap most likely. - Avoiding the fight when you're at a disadvantage is smart, not shameful or cowardly. Remember the odds are stacked against you - you cannot use all the ship classes/types/tactics while your opponents can if you're fighting at gates/stations (which is where people will try to get you if possible) - so just ignore the smacktalk which you will get and remember that unlike them, you fund your piracy via piracy rather then rat/mission for your ISK. Best advice in this thread. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
Bfoster The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Spectre3353 Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:42:42 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:33:56 Also, a few more bits of advice: - Don't kill the pods outright. Ransom them. You'd think it was obvious, but a ton of people fail to do so. - Remember, the trick of getting fights solo is making the other guy think he's got the advantage while, in fact, you do. Flying the obviously awesome ship is a awesome way to not get fights. People need to think they can take you or they'll try to avoid combat at any costs. - Salvage T2 wrecks given the opportunity. Else you might as well be killing T2 fit T1 cruisers instead of HACs, actual loot obtained is often on par, sad but true. - If it's a young player in a ship he shouldn't be in and you're off gate, try to ransom him. The loot is going to be crap most likely. - Avoiding the fight when you're at a disadvantage is smart, not shameful or cowardly. Remember the odds are stacked against you - you cannot use all the ship classes/types/tactics while your opponents can if you're fighting at gates/stations (which is where people will try to get you if possible) - so just ignore the smacktalk which you will get and remember that unlike them, you fund your piracy via piracy rather then rat/mission for your ISK. Best advice in this thread. Agreed.. Also read spec's blog.. It gives you a good idea into a pirates life.. Personally I started the out my eve life doing the "carebear" life, missioning & etc.. It got boring, same ol' thing over and over.. So I joined a 0.0 corp, it was a huge changed, but there was no such thing as a small gang fight.. It was a blobfest.. Now I am a full time pirate, I like the hunt.. You have to pick your targets carefully, usually you are in a small fight or a 1v1.. And you never know what you will find, but there is no real politics(like in 0.0) its just go find stuff and kill it.. _______________________________________________
Storms	Posted - 2008.09.12 09:47:00 - [37] Edited by: Storms on 12/09/2008 09:47:11 Originally by: Bfoster Originally by: Spectre3353 Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:42:42 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/09/2008 12:33:56 Also, a few more bits of advice: - Don't kill the pods outright. Ransom them. You'd think it was obvious, but a ton of people fail to do so. - Remember, the trick of getting fights solo is making the other guy think he's got the advantage while, in fact, you do. Flying the obviously awesome ship is a awesome way to not get fights. People need to think they can take you or they'll try to avoid combat at any costs. - Salvage T2 wrecks given the opportunity. Else you might as well be killing T2 fit T1 cruisers instead of HACs, actual loot obtained is often on par, sad but true. - If it's a young player in a ship he shouldn't be in and you're off gate, try to ransom him. The loot is going to be crap most likely. - Avoiding the fight when you're at a disadvantage is smart, not shameful or cowardly. Remember the odds are stacked against you - you cannot use all the ship classes/types/tactics while your opponents can if you're fighting at gates/stations (which is where people will try to get you if possible) - so just ignore the smacktalk which you will get and remember that unlike them, you fund your piracy via piracy rather then rat/mission for your ISK. Best advice in this thread. Agreed.. Also read spec's blog.. It gives you a good idea into a pirates life.. Personally I started the out my eve life doing the "carebear" life, missioning & etc.. It got boring, same ol' thing over and over.. So I joined a 0.0 corp, it was a huge changed, but there was no such thing as a small gang fight.. It was a blobfest.. Now I am a full time pirate, I like the hunt.. You have to pick your targets carefully, usually you are in a small fight or a 1v1.. And you never know what you will find, but there is no real politics(like in 0.0) its just go find stuff and kill it.. where can i find spec's blog?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.09.12 10:18:00 - [38] Piracy is beating hard in people like me who get the thrill of blowing up that random dude just because you can. The key is knowing when you're licked, and getting out while you have a chance. Trust your instincts, and never go in on something if you have a bad feeling about it -- because I promise you -- you're right. www.siigarikitawa.com
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.09.12 10:28:00 - [39] Quote: - Remember, the trick of getting fights solo is making the other guy think he's got the advantage while, in fact, you do. Flying the obviously awesome ship is a awesome way to not get fights. People need to think they can take you or they'll try to avoid combat at any costs. Best advice ever. A former corpmate went through a phase of sitting a default-named, low-SP Moa on a lowsec gate and waiting for a passing BC/HAC to try and pick him off. Sure, he lost plenty of them... but he got some extraordinary, hilarious kills.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:18:00 - [40] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 12/09/2008 11:18:55 Originally by: Somealt Ofmine Edited by: Somealt Ofmine on 09/09/2008 23:28:16 The pirates in the Caldari/Gal parts of black rise seem to be having a great time. You should base out of Tama, and roam the pipe between there and Old Man Star. Plenty of targets. It's a preety awesome way to lose lots of ships. Doing that is akin to 0.0 without bubbles, but with sentry aggro if you fire back. Seriously, I treat all trips through that pipe as essentially suicide ops - if you run into the standard FW gang with 10 ceptors and 15 cruisers (or HACs in some cases) you're just toast. On that note, I've been suiciding far too many stuff lately, need to get a grip. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint

H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:56:00 - [41] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Trust your instincts, and never go in on something if you have a bad feeling about it -- because I promise you -- you're right. QFT.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.12 12:14:00 - [42] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Trust your instincts, and never go in on something if you have a bad feeling about it -- because I promise you -- you're right. Totally true. Many of my deaths can be attributed to target fixation instead of acting on instinct... even though it does sometimes work. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Mynxee Hellcats Doom Armada	Posted - 2008.09.12 22:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Cpt Branko Many of my deaths can be attributed to target fixation... Man, do I hear that. Very hard to overcome. Some great advice in this thread. Life in Low Sec \| Hellcats
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.09.12 23:58:00 - [44] Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 13/09/2008 00:04:50 Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Piracy is worth it, but only if you are both self-sufficient(this generally means to have an alt) There is no need for alts. Well, unless you're not in a corp which has haulers or don't have industrial friends - then you need hauling alts. There is no need for any other sort of alt. If you require a alt to support piracy, then you're doing something wrong. Either losing too much or killing too little. You don't have to have an alt, but it helps A LOT. I can tell you that people get very tired of the one guy that's always asking to have things done for him. And have you ever noticed the manner in which everyone docks, logs, or goes to a POS whenever an outlaw enters local? edit: also- putting a combat pilot in a cov ops, hauler etc is a serious drain on your capabilities when you can just have people dual boxing and not lose anything.
MirrorGod Heretic Militia	Posted - 2008.09.13 21:51:00 - [45] I Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 09/09/2008 11:58:41 * Its a tough life. If you have enough numbers to fight medium sized gangs coming thorugh: - enjoyment over getting one volley off on a ship before it pops is small - people begin to fly BC just so they can acutualy get on a mail - BS pilots begin to fit one of more sensor boosters on their ships - loot splits shared amongst the gang are small - pilots get bored - any losses are difficult to recover from due to crap loot splits You can however take out the 10-15 man 0.0 alliance gangs that occasionally roll through, which is great for the epeen. As veterans of "end game pvp" they often cant believe thevy just been whooped by some low sec pirates and the lols are many - But these sorts of fights are fairly rare. * If you stay small - Pilots are forced to run multiple accounts (scouts, haulers etc) - Large Gangs have to be docked up from - Pilots need patience during these periods - Numbers will often be to small to camp effectively But the haulers and lone ships/ small gangs can be annihilated, and the loot splits are sufficent to maintain a career as a pirate. So if you want to go full time, my advice is to keep your gangs to a minimum. Prepare gurillia tactic ships for the blobs. Be prepared to use boredom as a weapon against large blobs. Get used to the fact your constantly fighting at a disadvantage to everyone who comes though. In return, your the only profession in the game who makes a living blowing people up. You call no man mister. Your not skulking around in higsec with concord at your back. You dont have to bow down and ass kiss alliance leadership. No pos bashes. No ratting. No mission grind. No fiddling with 0.01 isk buy orders. Just warp and pop. Your fighting with the biggest handicaps CCP impose on any pvper in the game. And your still pwning their asses. Plus you get your own song SKUNK </thread> Save Small Gang Warfare
KeLLaX HUNLAR the Almighty Scalar Federation	Posted - 2008.09.13 22:26:00 - [46] well train fast-talk to 4 and give it a try... worst case, its about 2 days of ratting with system-hopping.... depends on which system u are planning on residing too... if its a crowded system, it would be more difficult to get used to pirating and there is a high chance that you will spending more that what you make..
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.13 23:35:00 - [47] If you fly max'd out T1 ships fully insured it only takes a few fights to cover the lose. After awhile your going to have a load of pvp modules to add to your stockpile so equiping is easy. I'd stay away from BS's and T2 ships if your going to try flying small and profitable pirating.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.09.14 15:44:00 - [48] Since T2 loot is pretty crap to sell back and make a profit for the gang, my corp just hangs on to the loot if there were no losses. Its stored and then re-used by a member down the road if he loses a ship. We essentially recycle our loot. Helps save the high sec trips. If you can try to set aside some ransom money for your corp as well. Then the corp wallet can be used to setup buy orders for either mins (if you have industrial alts to build ships), or you can outright put up buy orders for the typical ships you fly. Yet another way to minimize high sec logistics. Trust your instincts, have an escape plan at all times, and above all else have fun. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
flashfresh The Bastards	Posted - 2008.10.03 08:58:00 - [49] One of Le Skunk's last paragraphs from his post sums it up quite nicely. Originally by: Le Skunk Your fighting with the biggest handicaps CCP impose on any pvper in the game. And your still pwning their asses. Le SKUNK I pirate because I want to; isk isn't too bad though we have a ransom process in place and keeps us in ships. POS ransoms and the occasional idiot in a CNR brings more isk and LOLs. Then recently, a RORQUAL comes in and tries to activate a star gate; it's in low-sec and he (obviously) has no-one to cyno for him. Oh dear. Did he think it was just a big mining barge that he was piloting? Piracy is hard while New Eden is becoming more and more 'safe'. Feelings of safety for the Empire dwellers breeds complacency and arrogance. That means more opportunities for isk. Bring them on. F ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö http://i-pirate.blogspot.com
Oberon Wolf Malevolent Intentions	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:15:00 - [50] With the right corp it's insanely profitable. And making all the FW blobbers run away time after time after time never gets old.

San Rintu The Bastards	Posted - 2008.10.03 09:34:00 - [51] As FlashFresh(aka the pirating voice of New Eden) said, pirating is by no means a way to make a steady income, however when the clowns do turn out in their ridiculously priced ships, it more than makes up for it. The Bastards have had several weeks turning over killboard stats that many small alliances would fail to even get close to. What I will say next is very much debatable. I am very much aware that the wonder of Eve is that it is made to suit everyone but this opinion is what a great number of pilots in Eve would agree with too. "If you aspire to be rich quick in the game or be a part of something bigger then 0.0 is the place to be. If you play Eve for a completely gratifying experience then you should be pirating in low sec. 100 capital fleet battles can not possibly make up for the one guy that you kill who provides you with senseless and sheer stomach bursting hilarious smack." I have experienced pretty much all of the avenues of Eve and quite simply, nothing will put a bigger smile on your face. After all, you are paying money to play this game so why shouldn't it?
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.10.03 10:19:00 - [52] The fun is worth it - if you look for a possibility to make a fortune in pixel money, then just switch off your brain and do level 4 missions til you throw up... I read all the great blogs of Kane Rizzel, Flashfresh and others when I was still doing such mindless mission running. Actually this was the point when I decided to delete 'ISK' from my priority list and replace it by 'fun'... Big THANK YOU to these guys and girls!


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