Any eve player advocating for the in-game harassment of someone, especially with the stated goal of getting the person to commit suicide has violated the EULA.

He broadcast an EVE players name for harassment in-game. If I go write a blog on a personal website that says...

"Feligast in EVE is psychologically imbalanced, everyone should get on their EVE accounts and go harass him so that he kills himself. He has expressed suicidal thoughts before, let's send him over the edge!"

I'll be banned by CCP if they know my account information. Any eve player advocating for the in-game harassment of someone, especially with the stated goal of getting the person to commit suicide has violated the EULA. The EULA does not just cover in-game actions when it comes to the intellectual property of CCP. Hence, CCP needs to be consistent in their EULA. If you're not going to enforce it because one player is perceived popular, then don't enforce it for Joe Average EVE Player who wouldn't merit a second thought if he did the same thing.

Or take the easier route and enforce it consistently for all.

He broadcast an EVE players name for harassment in-game. If I go write a blog on a personal website that says...

"Feligast in EVE is psychologically imbalanced, everyone should get on their EVE accounts and go harass him so that he kills himself. He has expressed suicidal thoughts before, let's send him over the edge!"

I'll be banned by CCP

Being drunk isn't an excuse.

C. User Content
The System may allow you to communicate information, such as by posting messages in chat rooms, on bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas (collectively, "User Content").
User Content that you cause to be communicated to the System may not (i) violate any statute, rule, regulation or law; (ii) infringe or violate the intellectual property, proprietary, privacy or publicity rights of any third party; (iii) be defamatory, indecent, obscene, child pornographic or harmful to minors;

When the controversy over CCP's micro-transactions last summer was at it's peak, dozens of players were banned for "harassment", with many other threatened. Players like Helicity Boson were banned for telling a Dev to "die in a fire", as a prominent example. Others were banned for even less inflammatory verbiage. Some of them still remain banned, despite doing nothing more than speaking truth to CCP. I almost was banned just for asking players to post a simple "boo" at CCP Soundwave over his Fearless article. CCP employees were indignant about "the level of harassment" against him during the controversy. Yet, calling for players to harass someone until they commit suicide, that's apparently okay provided that they don't work for CCP.

CCP has no consistency with how they enforce their EULA. There are separate rules depending on "who you are." If any of us "normal" players had written the words that Mittani spoke at Fanfest, we would have been automatically banned from the forums and in-game. If you wrote an eve-mail to your corp advocating that they go harass another player who was known to have mental issues until he committed suicide, you would be perma-banned in-game.

Players in the past have been banned for simply helping police the game, one player to the point where you can't even speak his name because he exposed the t2 blueprint scandal years ago. Perhaps if he had been on the CSM, such behavior would have been acceptable, eh?

The devs and company treats their friends and drinking buddies far differently than they treat the average player. The average player would have been instantly banned. You would have been instantly banned for doing even half of what Mittani did on video at fanfest. It would not have taken players pointing it out to the gaming media, it would have been done as soon as a GM or dev saw the harassment. It would not have required some sham "investigation."

Whether or not you agree with their rules, everyone should agree that the company should apply them consistently no matter who the player is. Either remove the rules against harassment, etc, or enforce them across the board fairly and logically.

So what you're saying is that CCP would be dumb to **** off 10,058 paying accounts just to appease some NPC corp alts who are mad about goons?

I do think Mitts is going to get some type of punishment, but damn, can we let the process work first? Let CCP do their investigation first to see what they find.

They are either waiting to see if this blows over, or hiring a PR consultant, not investigating this. I guarantee it.

I'm looking for targets in the Recruitment channel RIGHT NOW.

Real world actions are not tied to the EULA. I don't know why people have trouble understanding that.

It's only a violation if what ever you did involves the direct use of CCP licensed software. Those that have been banned were probably sending threatening EVE-mails, posting on the forums, or being threatening through the EVE chat.

The Mitanni said what he said in person, not through CCP software. Therefore the EULA does not apply.

The reason why there is an investigation is because CCP is trying to determine if he sent any harassing or threatening messages through CCP software. If they based their judgement off of a video of him in person then they would be acting out of the EULA which could lead to a lawsuit.

EDIT: He also did not harass or threaten a CCP employee. That's about the only RL thing that you can do that could lead to a ban.

C. User Content
The System may allow you to communicate information, such as by posting messages in chat rooms, on bulletin boards and other user-to-user areas (collectively, "User Content").
User Content that you cause to be communicated to the System may not (i) violate any statute, rule, regulation or law; (ii) infringe or violate the intellectual property, proprietary, privacy or publicity rights of any third party; (iii) be defamatory, indecent, obscene, child pornographic or harmful to minors;

Its all about money dude. And Its CCPs game so they can do what they want.

Mittens leads Goons = many subscription = no ban Mittens

People calling out CCP = lost subscriptions = ban hammer



Seriously how hard is this to figure out. Goons have 1000s of subs, thats important.