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Hunter Hughes Caldari Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.09.10 05:13:00 - [1] need a fit. im new to the amarr scene but have been around the game a while and know how they play best sooo... Im looking for a fitting that uses 7 heavy pulse IIs. I have AWU 5 so fitting shouldnt be a problem. O and no rigs unless you think that the setup your giving really needs them. THANK YOU, Hunter Hughes Originally by: GinoShin Edited by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44 whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman?
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.09.10 05:58:00 - [2] Quote: [Harbinger, Gank] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Small EMP Smartbomb I /OFFLINE Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Too lazy to edit out the rigs, can work without them. Go forth and melt things. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.09.10 06:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Terianna Eri Go forth and melt things. The Amarrian battle doctrine has never been so succinctly phrased before. Well done.
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.09.10 14:49:00 - [4] Was playing around in EFT trying to make one for myself thismorning, and came up with this: 7 named heavy pulses 10mn MWD, tracking comp, web, disruptor RCU, 2x HS, 2x EANM, 1600mm plate named and T2,just too lazy to type it all out... only question is that is the extra EHP worth the loss of some firepower (no 3rd HS) rather than fitting an 800mm plate? i would think so, but i dont reli know from practical experience.
Kaylaye Amarr	Posted - 2008.09.10 14:56:00 - [5] If you go with Focused Medium Pulse you can actually fit a tank on there too. Otherwise, the above post is good.
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Kaylaye If you go with Focused Medium Pulse you can actually fit a tank on there too. Otherwise, the above post is good. well, messing some more, mixing heavy pulse and focused mediums, you can drop the RCU for another HS, and depending on you good of named guns you use, you can fit 4-5, maybe 6 heavy pulses... yields marginally better DPS... may well be worth it.
Meridius Dex Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:28:00 - [7] Currently flying: 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 3x Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 7x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [offline smartie] Hammerhead II x5 But also had luck with below for grabbing nanos that came in too close (got a Vaga about a month ago): 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II 3x Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 2x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Disruptor II 7x Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium Nosferatu II Vespa EC-600 x5 I worked on the following for gank, but have yet to fly it: Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II 4x Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Supplemental Scanning CPU I, Scan Resolution J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 7x Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Hammerhead II x5 Conventional wisdom is that the 4th HS isn't worth it, but I swear on this ship it could be, adding an extra 35-40 DPS, pushing the total DPS to nearly 800 without rigs. Also, I found on Scrapheap Challenge the following if-I-have-four-mids-why-not-try-shield-tanking fit. It actually has plenty of gank, along with more EHP than my own base fit: Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I 3x Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 2x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I 7x Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [offline smartie] 2x Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Hammerhead II x5 -- Meridius Dex -- Amarr = EVE on Hard setting
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 21:54:00 - [8] I've been using this setup with excellent results. [Harb: gank n tank] Highs: 7x heavy pulse II Meds: 1x web 1x 20km disruptor 2x large extender II Lows: 2x heatsink II 1x rcu II 1x pds II 1x dc II 1x 1600mm rt Rigs: 3x trimark or 1x each of kinetic, thermal and explosive armor resist rigs if your strapped for cash and will run in a larger gang. Drones: 5x med ecm or 5x hammer II depending on gang setup. If you can find a reasonably affordable lg slave set this will end up with 30k armor hp and a nice 12k+ shield buffer able to withstand moast cruiser dps on its own. Get a scout to provide a warp in under 10km and you will pwn pretty much any ship 1 vs 1 bc and lower with a very good chance at popping a low sp bs. Get at least three and go hunting properly fitted BS and pop them well before even one Harb gets anywhere near hull. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:01:00 - [9] No propulsion mod? Check. No cap mods? Check. Armor and shield tanked? Check. Un-necessary RCU? Check. Don't fly the above setup.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:16:00 - [10] Originally by: AstroPhobic No propulsion mod? Check. No cap mods? Check. Armor and shield tanked? Check. Un-necessary RCU? Check. Don't fly the above setup. ? No need for a propulsion mod with a scout providing the warp in. Everything permaruns so why do I need a cap mod? Armor and shield tanked for total ehp as the extra 2 mids are not needed for tracking or cap mods. With maxed fitting skills that setup leaves 3 cpu and about 20ish grid leftover. Works a charm. Was eating everything up on the test server and so far has yielded excellent results on tq with no losses and 14 kills over the last month. But then again I forget this is the forums so I probaly just wasted this reply. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Zeba No need for a propulsion mod with a scout providing the warp in. Uh, maintaining range, getting the hell out, getting range quickly? Quote: Everything permaruns so why do I need a cap mod? Armor and shield tanked for total ehp as the extra 2 mids are not needed for tracking or cap mods. With maxed fitting skills that setup leaves 3 cpu and about 20ish grid leftover. With a neut on you you're completely boned. Quote: Works a charm. Was eating everything up on the test server and so far has yielded excellent results on tq with no losses and 14 kills over the last month. That's great, I can kill people in a shield tanked thorax too if I wanted. Doesn't make it a good idea. Quote: But then again I forget this is the forums so I probaly just wasted this reply. I can't really help you anyway if you're shield and armor buffering a harbinger.
Nahzgul Senate and People of Rome The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:22:00 - [12] [Harbinger, Plated] Medium Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Dread Guristas Warp Disruptor Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Vespa II x5
Captator Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:26:00 - [13] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Zeba Works a charm. Was eating everything up on the test server and so far has yielded excellent results on tq with no losses and 14 kills over the last month. That's great, I can kill people in a shield tanked thorax too if I wanted. Doesn't make it a good idea. I beg to differ shield buffer rax is godly in larger gangs, as well as an interesting fit I designed for soloing admittedly I haven't tested that yet .
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:32:00 - [14] Looks like I got a live one it seems. Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Zeba No need for a propulsion mod with a scout providing the warp in. Uh, maintaining range, getting the hell out, getting range quickly? Scout has this thing called target selection and won't ever bring me to a battle I can't win. Quote: Everything permaruns so why do I need a cap mod? Armor and shield tanked for total ehp as the extra 2 mids are not needed for tracking or cap mods. With maxed fitting skills that setup leaves 3 cpu and about 20ish grid leftover. With a neut on you you're completely boned. Good point. Guess its a good thing I never run with less than 3 gank ships along with the scout. And how is a cap recharger suppost to help vs a neut anyways? Or did you mean a cap injector? Again not needed as whatever is targeted dies in a flash and whoosh away we go to the next ss to setup the next gank. Quote: Works a charm. Was eating everything up on the test server and so far has yielded excellent results on tq with no losses and 14 kills over the last month. That's great, I can kill people in a shield tanked thorax too if I wanted. Doesn't make it a good idea. Sorry I didn't realize there was a CorrectÖ way you had to kill people? Quote: But then again I forget this is the forums so I probaly just wasted this reply. I can't really help you anyway if you're shield and armor buffering a harbinger. I use whatever works as do many other people in the game. Sorry if I upset your Amarr fitting sensibilities. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:53:00 - [15] There's no arguing with you. All I can say is - I hope I find you on the battlefield, because you will certainly be riding home in a pod.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 22:56:00 - [16] Edited by: Zeba on 10/09/2008 22:59:27 Originally by: AstroPhobic There's no arguing with you. All I can say is - I hope I find you on the battlefield, because you will certainly be riding home in a pod. Yeah I hear that alot in local. But it's always: "Next time I'll get you Gadget! Next time!!" as thye fly off in thier pod. Translation: Bring it. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 10/09/2008 22:59:27 Originally by: AstroPhobic There's no arguing with you. All I can say is - I hope I find you on the battlefield, because you will certainly be riding home in a pod. Yeah I hear that alot in local. But it's always: "Next time I'll get you Gadget! Next time!!" as thye fly off in thier pod. Translation: Bring it. I understand your attitude for trying stuff that's against cookie cutter, but there's a good reason why it's cookie cutter. Lots of people enjoy flying a tempest, but there's a good reason why everyone else doesn't. Same goes for the muninn. Translation: Forum duels are lame, but I'd be more than happy to show you why shield + armor tanking, and no propulsion mod = death.
kessah Suicidal Tendencies Ltd	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:03:00 - [18] For low/high sec or 0.0? Makes a difference, apparently.
Chienka Victory Not Vengeance SOLAR WING	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:10:00 - [19] In b4 kessah's 1000 DPS setup.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:11:00 - [20] Edited by: Zeba on 10/09/2008 23:11:36 Originally by: AstroPhobic I understand your attitude for trying stuff that's against cookie cutter, but there's a good reason why it's cookie cutter. Lots of people enjoy flying a tempest, but there's a good reason why everyone else doesn't. Same goes for the muninn. Translation: Forum duels are lame, but I'd be more than happy to show you why shield + armor tanking, and no propulsion mod = death. I'm sure you could think up many counter fits to use against it 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2 or some other situation that will never happen outside a pre-set duel. But its not a 1 vs 1 fit. It's specifically designed for max ehp to be used in fast gangs as a super damage dealer. As stated above my scout will not under any circumstances warp me to somthing that won't die quickly. And as far as not using cookie cutter setups remember when nanoing your ship was treated as a lulz wtf are you doing flying that? Now look at it. Originally by: Chienka In b4 kessah's 1000 DPS setup. Plz share? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Zeba I'm sure you could think up many counter fits to use against it 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2 or some other situation that will never happen outside a pre-set duel. Okay, one thing you cant seem to get through your head is that MWD is mandatory. Period. You can't expect to land within 10km of your target always, and with the new web change, you can't even expect to hold them. You can't expect to mantain good odds. You can't expect it not being bait. Most importantly, flying into fights with certain odds means you can't even gauge your ship's worth. I could fly a miner rokh into fights with certain odds and get 12 kills too. Quote: But its not a 1 vs 1 fit. It's specifically designed for max ehp to be used in fast gangs as a super damage dealer. As stated above my scout will not under any circumstances warp me to somthing that won't die quickly. And as far as not using cookie cutter setups remember when nanoing your ship was treated as a lulz wtf are you doing flying that? Now look at it. I'm sure if you spent a little bit of time on your setup you would see why it's simply dumb.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:23:00 - [22] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Zeba I'm sure you could think up many counter fits to use against it 1 vs 1 or even 2 vs 2 or some other situation that will never happen outside a pre-set duel. Okay, one thing you cant seem to get through your head is that MWD is mandatory. Period. You can't expect to land within 10km of your target always, and with the new web change, you can't even expect to hold them. You can't expect to mantain good odds. You can't expect it not being bait. Most importantly, flying into fights with certain odds means you can't even gauge your ship's worth. I could fly a miner rokh into fights with certain odds and get 12 kills too. Quote: But its not a 1 vs 1 fit. It's specifically designed for max ehp to be used in fast gangs as a super damage dealer. As stated above my scout will not under any circumstances warp me to somthing that won't die quickly. And as far as not using cookie cutter setups remember when nanoing your ship was treated as a lulz wtf are you doing flying that? Now look at it. I'm sure if you spent a little bit of time on your setup you would see why it's simply dumb. Do you even play Eve? inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Zeba Do you even play Eve? Occasionally, but when I do it's not the kind where I get a scout to find me targets that I can always kill.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:31:00 - [24] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Zeba Do you even play Eve? Occasionally, but when I do it's not the kind where I get a scout to find me targets that I can always kill. Ahh so its not really the fit its the manner in which its used. Srry bout that. Heres a quote to live by then. Originally by: David Hackworth. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Zeba Ahh so its not really the fit its the manner in which its used. No, it's still the fit. I'll help you out in a minute.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:45:00 - [26] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Zeba I'll help you out in a minute. Thanks! inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.10 23:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 10/09/2008 23:55:57 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 10/09/2008 23:55:29 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: David Hackworth. If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly. Well, yeah, sure. But fact is, if you insist on perfect scouting/etc/fighting in relatively clear local, you're going to miss out on some fights you could still win. The more you insist on perfect target selection, the less fights you actually get. That's how it really works. There's some people who'll only fight at advantage and people who leeroy, but most of us are somewhere in the middle and want to get as much versatility out of our ships as possible (while retaining specific strenghts of the ship). Hence I'll fit, for instance, disruptor/web/ECCM/MWD on a Hurricane - even though in a perfect situation I could have 2x LSE, 2x invuln and be OK... because waiting for that perfect gank means I'm not taking fights I could win. And it could still always be a logonski. Fortunately I don't see geminschaft a lot lately though Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:01:00 - [28] Your fit isn't... fitting due to CPU. I'll just assume you have a 5% cpu imp then, I dunno. [Harbinger, Zeba - Fixed] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Prohibitor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M [empty high slot] Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Hammerhead II x5 Same DPS, same EHP, but now has a MWD and has a "little" bit of survivability when it comes to neuts. I want to play around with ACR rigs soon, will come back to you.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:08:00 - [29] Edited by: Zeba on 11/09/2008 00:09:51 Originally by: Cpt Branko Well, yeah, sure. But fact is, if you insist on perfect scouting/etc/fighting in relatively clear local, you're going to miss out on some fights you could still win. The more you insist on perfect target selection, the less fights you actually get. That's how it really works. There's some people who'll only fight at advantage and people who leeroy, but most of us are somewhere in the middle and want to get as much versatility out of our ships as possible (while retaining specific strenghts of the ship). Well I only have so much of my Eve time devoted to pure pvp so I tend to go balls deep with it and stalk a high value target then pounce on them when the time is right. To me the thrill of the hunt is moar than worth the low kills per month. The fit works for me and is very low maintainance to be used for extended depolyments in hostile territory. (Pretty much everywhere for me :P) Now I hate to give op details out but how convinient would it be to have an armor buffer tank that rarely gets used due to the large shield buffer. Less time rr'ing at a safespot means a quicker gtfo option and you might need that barely touched armor buffer for a suprise reinforce from the targets mates. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Anhil	Posted - 2008.09.11 00:21:00 - [30] [Harbinger, gank] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Fleeting Warp Scrambler I Sensor Booster II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Medium EMP Smartbomb II /OFFLINE Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Valkyrie II x5

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