Short version the Chair of the CSM broke codes of conduct binding the behaviour of ordinary players. He did something that other player have been permabanned for. For him to remain in place after this would make a mockery of the CSM and CCP's own reputation for even-handed enforcement of rules.

i will happily address this issue once jade has recognised the depths of his shameful wrongitude regarding the relevance of his eveo forum ban

Not empty quoting. Also, I love how the media is still saying The Wis is "suicidal" when it's pretty obvious he isn't.

is it now? can goons verify this?

Actually weather or not the person was or was not genuinely suicidal does not enter into it at all.

All that enters into it is that someone was calling for another persons death vie suicide through harassment to push him too it.



You might as well be taking the stance that women get raped cause of the clothing they have on. Do you think that if they dress sexy that they were asking for it too? Just curious?

Lets just hope he doesn't win the CSM and get up on stage drunk at fanfest and then ask for some gay guys to get harrassed into suicide eh?"

Because then we'd have to use the same punishment the Mittani got.

I really need you to tell me if you know the difference between Real life and In game?

OK.. I really do not know what to say. I am at a loss for words with all that is going on.

I guess I should say that this is not about someone alt in eve.
This is not about someone losing isks they worked for.
This is not about someone losing a machanaw in the game.
This is not something I started. I was really shocked to see the video monday night when I finaly had time.

This is all really about a person that is over joyed in making some one hurt as much as they can in real life not in game.
Going by his power point I have to say he thought about it long before getting drunk.
If thowing my name out there was something he planed to do or not that I can not say, and we will never know for sure.
But when reflect the way he talked about my mail. I am sure that was an option he was holding on to and tossing up becouse he was really enjoying tomenting someone.

I am sorry this is not the alt in the game that is talk but the person playing the alt.

There are allot of people out there that have real life problems, but they are warned when they join Eve. Whats said and done in the game doesn't bother me, its all part of Eve.

To me this **** got real and hurt full when I watched a video where a complete stranger urged other complete strangers to try make me kill myself.



The Wis

Has anyone considered that Alex's behavior was so clearly reprehensible that it seemed silly to need to go ON THE RECORD! with such immediacy, especially when this has nothing to do with CSM7, and it has nothing to do with us individually?

Many of us weren't at fanfest, Alex only represented himself in his actions, CCP makes the ultimate the call regarding ToS and EULA stuff, and the CSM7 doesn't even exist yet.

There's just no reason for anyone to go around castigating the CSM7 candidates who haven't even taken office for not coming out and making a dog and pony show out of their piety. I think it's both tedious and unnecessary to expect that each one of us individually affirms that every inappropriate act is indeed inappropriate, and frankly I consider it one of our responsibilities as CSM members to learn all the information we can about a situation before we start pointing the finger at each other publicly.