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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:11:00 -
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Dell XPS 750, 3Gb Ram, 1Tb SATA Raid, GeForce GTX 280 etc. etc.
Vista seems to suck, especially explorer when working with NAS (switched gigabit network), poor multi-tasking, explorer locking up etc.
Suggestions for less suckyness and more speedyness?
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:11:00 -
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Dell XPS 750, 3Gb Ram, 1Tb SATA Raid, GeForce GTX 280 etc. etc.
Vista seems to suck, especially explorer when working with NAS (switched gigabit network), poor multi-tasking, explorer locking up etc.
Suggestions for less suckyness and more speedyness?
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The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:20:00 -
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Upgrade to XP 
On a serious note, turn off everything in Vista that you don't need. Turn the effects off, make windows look simple etc etc.
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The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:20:00 -
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Upgrade to XP
On a serious note, turn off everything in Vista that you don't need. Turn the effects off, make windows look simple etc etc.
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:32:00 -
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 Originally by: The TX
Upgrade to XP
On a serious note, turn off everything in Vista that you don't need. Turn the effects off, make windows look simple etc etc.
I was seriously thinking about XP..
To be honest I'm not bothered about the user interfaces performance it's the multi tasking performance of explorer that bothered me, well, and the blue screens I got with netio.sys, could hardly believe I was seeing a BSOD after years of not getting them.
XP and OS/X's explorer/folder process seem much better than Vista's, what's that all about?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:59:00 -
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Rip out the harddrive, submerge it in holy water and if you can find some wood that's hard enough (maybe morning wood`?) drive a stake through the drive. Then bury it at a crossroad near to flowing water.
To quote Penny Arcade: "You cannot simply uninstall evil."
No seriously, I have no clue if a patched Vista is still bad, but I'm pretty convinced it's still bloatware, no matter how much shit you turn off.
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Kyle Klanen
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Drauls
Dell XPS 750, 3Gb Ram, 1Tb SATA Raid, GeForce GTX 280 etc. etc?
There's your problem.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:04:00 -
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It will suck for the first few days because it's doing a prefetch and indexing thing. Ironically, the more RAM you have, the worse this gets.
It can be turned of, I believe. You might have some luck there. If all else fails, get XP.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Drauls
could hardly believe I was seeing a BSOD after years of not getting them.
Didnt notice that before, and it's just a shot in the dark, but this is actually very common (especially among dell users, no offence  ).
More often than not this just stems from overheat due to dust buildup. That's why it needs a year or so before it starts to kick in 
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Terail Zoqial
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:13:00 -
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Get your money back from vista and install other OS of choice. There is something in the EULA that you can decline and get a refund for the amount the OS costs.
Stinky link
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Heather Drauls on 11/09/2008 13:48:58
Thanks for the advice people.
P'uck / Terail: Actually I didn't want Vista in the first place but the UK Dell site didn't have an option to 'turn if off'. I guess 'evil isn't something you can refuse'.
I have access to a MSDN universal license so can install pretty much any version of Windows for 'free' which is a bonus as XP won't cost me anything. Sadly they don't include OS/X with the DVDs. 
ReaperOfSly: I think I will spend the rest of my afternoon building two additional partitions, one with XP and one with a Linux. That way if Vista doesn't 'settle down' I can see if anything else is better.
Kyle: I'm not sure Dell are worse than other vendors (I had plenty of problems with Alien Ware machine to start with)? Also, what exactly is wrong with the set-up I have?
P'uck:'There is no dust, neo'. Quite seriously, I'm a bit of a anti-dust fanatic. 
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CynoCyno1
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Posted - 2008.09.11 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Klanen
Originally by: Heather Drauls
Dell XPS 750, 3Gb Ram, 1Tb SATA Raid, GeForce GTX 280 etc. etc?
There's your problem.
True evil in 4 letters
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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
The Black Fleet
The Black Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.11 17:06:00 -
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wipe it off with a towel?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.11 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
To quote Penny Arcade: "You cannot simply uninstall evil."
Formatting purges evil 
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Kyle Klanen
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Posted - 2008.09.11 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Drauls
Kyle: I'm not sure Dell are worse than other vendors (I had plenty of problems with Alien Ware machine to start with)? Also, what exactly is wrong with the set-up I have?
Its not really that Dell are worse than other manufacturers really I have quite profound prejudices against pre built systems because they all seem overpriced and some are nothing but trouble and due to warranties there is not much you can do about it and end up in customer service hell trying to get it fixed.
Building your own systems is surprisingly easy to learn (if I can do it anyone can lol) and when stuff breaks down you just replace the defective part.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.11 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 11/09/2008 19:23:40
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GeForce GTX 280
well for one you can throw away the idea of ever hooking up to your TV with s-video or something unless you downgrade to XP.
also get ready for no sound in some DX10 games (voice acting)
and I'm sure I've had other problems.
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Inoshuu
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.11 19:31:00 -
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QUICK! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.11 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Rip out the harddrive, submerge it in holy water and if you can find some wood that's hard enough (maybe morning wood`?) drive a stake through the drive. Then bury it at a crossroad near to flowing water.
Good luck, last time QUANT went out shooting, our old HDDs were stopping .45s (If they hit the magnetic disks) 
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 20:33:00 -
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Seems that everyone dislikes Vista. Well I have it on laptop that I use alot and dont really mind it, although I only use it for the internet, eve, some other games and word processing etc. Yeah its a resource hog and has its little glitches but overall I have been pretty pleased with it. And when I use my old XP Pro machine I just cry as it sucks so much.
Also, I really dont want to say this as it's so lame but immaturity is making me do it:
"Vista came on your machine" hahaha
Yes, I need to grow up.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.11 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Good luck, last time QUANT went out shooting, our old HDDs were stopping .45s (If they hit the magnetic disks)
Note to self: Can make cheap body armor from magnetic hard drive disks.
I'll keep that in mind the next time I have to rob a bank.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.11 20:54:00 -
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Vista came on my new machine... what to do?
Use Kleenex and tell it not to do that again?
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.09.11 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Inoshuu
QUICK! KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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(giggled out loud) like a little *****
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.11 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Seems that everyone dislikes Vista. Well I have it on laptop that I use alot and dont really mind it, although I only use it for the internet, eve, some other games and word processing etc. Yeah its a resource hog and has its little glitches but overall I have been pretty pleased with it. And when I use my old XP Pro machine I just cry as it sucks so much.
Also, I really dont want to say this as it's so lame but immaturity is making me do it:
"Vista came on your machine" hahaha
Yes, I need to grow up.
have you tried s-videoing to your TV? won't work that's why I'm ****ed at vista.
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NeoShocker
Caldari
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.09.11 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: NeoShocker on 11/09/2008 21:54:58
I dunno about you dood, but its been over a week since I installed Vista Ultimate 64bit and working fine, have not encountered one single problem yet. (reformatted from XP)
My specs? Antec 1200, Q6600, x2 8800GT sli, corsair 1066 4 gigs, Evga 750i FTW mobo. Built 'em myself. :)
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.11 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: NeoShocker
Edited by: NeoShocker on 11/09/2008 21:54:58
I dunno about you dood, but its been over a week since I installed Vista Ultimate 64bit and working fine, have not encountered one single problem yet. (reformatted from XP)
My specs? Antec 1200, Q6600, x2 8800GT sli, corsair 1066 4 gigs, Evga 750i FTW mobo. Built 'em myself. :)
points above to s-video issue which has been around for apparently 2 years.
maybe it's not a big deal for desktops but I used to watch movies using my laptop before, now I'm going to get xp again just so I can.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.11 22:06:00 -
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I run XP pro, XP home, and Vista and I don't seem to have any issue with what I'm always reading about.
Also little man companies for the win. Better deals and they don't build your system until you order it, how you like it.
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Evelgrivion
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.11 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Evelgrivion on 11/09/2008 22:10:29
Reformat the hard drive and just reinstall Windows Vista with none of the Dell included software. Get all the drivers yourself as well.
Should be much speedier.
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.11 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Heather Drauls on 11/09/2008 22:22:39
As usual, thanks for the advice thus far..
Originally by: "Kyle Klanen"
Building your own systems is...
Been there, done that, can't be arsed anymore. Typically, for me, by the time something breaks no one makes new graphics cards that work with the particular version of PCI/e your now old motherboard has. So then you change the motherboard and may as well upgrade the CPU, oh, and replace the memory, then you've got slow and/or low capacity disks on an otherwise nice machine... Don't get me wrong I didn't especially like forking over the $'s to Dell, my old machine blew up so I needed something quick.
Originally by: "Kirra Liu"
"Vista came on your machine" hahaha
That came out wrong.. err... dam.. you know what I mean
Originally by: "MotherMoon"
well for one you can throw away the idea of ever hooking up to your TV with s-video or something unless you downgrade to XP.
I'm not a fan of computers as a playout devices due to the noise and time they take to 'turn on', so that was never my intention. If it had a HD-SDI interface I could route the signal to the living room rather nicely but then I would have to muck around with how to control the PC from there. Did they ever make a HD Slingbox?
At least no one has suggested installing Windows ME yet.
I removed a bunch of the software I don't want to use (Windows Defender etc.), turned off lots of stuff with the help of TweakVI (saved me a marathon tour of the registry I suspect), stopped (mainly) the never ending wonders of UAC, turned off the scheduler, tweaked some of the services over to delayed start or just disabled, and got to grips with sysinternals autoruns and procmon. Big improvement in performance but explorer is still a bit of a dog when I'm doing lots of disk-io locally, over the network, or both.
Fire, holy water, blunt objects, hair spray and a match, general cussing, all came to mind with the BSODs but, I think I've got that sorted now too.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.11 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: P'uck
To quote Penny Arcade: "You cannot simply uninstall evil."
Formatting purges evil
You havent seen the worst kinds of trojans, malware, and viruses we get down here in the "Red Light District" of the Internet, have you?
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.11 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Thorliaron on 11/09/2008 23:47:09
I use vista and it works fine for me, never ever had a problem with it, dunno what all these *****es are crying about tbh
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Naomi Halloran
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.09.12 00:09:00 -
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Vista can fry in the warmest pits of hell for all I care. When I start getting "out of memory" errors ON BOOT-UP with 4GB DDR3 RAM, sorry, it's time to upgrade to XP and demand a refund of the money I wasted on Vista. (Which I did get, ten weeks later.) Sorry, but Vista sucks. I just hope the real Mojave they're supposedly working on, and not the one they suckered people into trying in their almost laughable TV ads, works better than that steaming pile of crap they just HAVE to slap on every prefab system on the market these days...
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.12 02:06:00 -
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I have had no problem with vista in the year that I have had my vista.
PEBKAC, people...
Look it up.
Trust me, there is nothing wrong with vista besides the fact that people are idiots.
Originally by: Dheorl
Originally by: Akita T
yawn
I never knew it was possible to stretch your ego THAT much in 1 post
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Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.09.12 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
I have had no problem with vista in the year that I have had my vista.
PEBKAC, people...
Look it up.
Trust me, there is nothing wrong with vista besides the fact that people are idiots.
Agreed, just Vista has a lot of annoying features which have to be turned off.
I haven't had a single problem with Vista for the past 10 months since I built my computer.
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Tao Han
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.09.12 07:53:00 -
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ehmm, stop listening to the doomsayers?
Vista is fine, its the exact same whines that was around when XP was released. Nothing new.
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.12 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
I have had no problem with vista in the year that I have had my vista.
PEBKAC, people...
Look it up.
Trust me, there is nothing wrong with vista besides the fact that people are idiots.
So because you don't have a problem with your machine I'm an idiot because my machine was blue screening (MS hotfix required) and explorer appears to suck at multi-threading?
thanks for the comment Mr. tech genius now perhaps you can tell me what **** off you ***** means? Go on look it up.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.12 15:35:00 -
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Well the Vista debate is pretty simple.
Vista doesn't add anything that makes it worth the upgrade; and in introduces more problems than it is worth.
IF DirectX 10 had proven to not be a failure, than I would have jumped on the Vista bandwagon as well, but even Microsoft has acknowledged the Vista failings and are quickly coming out with their new OS.
Remember, there were also people who liked Windows ME.
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Da Death
Minmatar
Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.12 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Rip out the harddrive, submerge it in holy water and if you can find some wood that's hard enough (maybe morning wood`?) drive a stake through the drive. Then bury it at a crossroad near to flowing water.
To quote Penny Arcade: "You cannot simply uninstall evil."
No seriously, I have no clue if a patched Vista is still bad, but I'm pretty convinced it's still bloatware, no matter how much shit you turn off.
lol
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Posted - 2008.09.16 15:13:00 -
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hmmm make it better,,,,,, ok
if in uk, take it to beachey head,,,, douse in petrol, light it, and push off edge...
if in USA, take to grand canyon,,,, douse in petrol, light it, and push off edge...
about 4 secs to terminal speed(about as fast as its gonna go ), and the flames to get rid of vista.
problem sorted, you just got a supa fast pc and you just wasted vista.....yarrr
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Natsuki
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Heather Drauls
Originally by: The TX
Upgrade to XP
On a serious note, turn off everything in Vista that you don't need. Turn the effects off, make windows look simple etc etc.
I was seriously thinking about XP..
To be honest I'm not bothered about the user interfaces performance it's the multi tasking performance of explorer that bothered me, well, and the blue screens I got with netio.sys, could hardly believe I was seeing a BSOD after years of not getting them.
XP and OS/X's explorer/folder process seem much better than Vista's, what's that all about?
that's because XP only logs bsods and doesn't actually show you the blue screen. it just goes straight to restart. I'm sure your computer has restarted itself before.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.09.16 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Natsuki
that's because XP only logs bsods and doesn't actually show you the blue screen. it just goes straight to restart. I'm sure your computer has restarted itself before.
You can turn off the restart on "stop-errors" quite easily in XP. Makes finding out what just blew up much easier.
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Sitara
Minmatar
Solar Flare Trade and Production
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Posted - 2008.09.16 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Originally by: Lance Fighter
I have had no problem with vista in the year that I have had my vista.
PEBKAC, people...
Look it up.
Trust me, there is nothing wrong with vista besides the fact that people are idiots.
Agreed, just Vista has a lot of annoying features which have to be turned off.
I haven't had a single problem with Vista for the past 10 months since I built my computer.
This
I have a dual boot xp / vista system and vista performs better than XP - haven't been into XP for weeks.
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