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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.15 13:35:00 -
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Aside from the Jove mothership it's all true.
The CCP art director at that time (Tortifrans?) spoke with a miner of a small corporation and gave him the Nibelung Mining Laser, which would mine about 350m3 / cycle. Then this pilot, out of innocence, sold it to a corporation in the north.
After using it for a while and making screenshots of an alliance mining operation where one of the mining apocalypse (the best mining ship back then with 8 turrets) was using it. A lot of forum drama followed and CCP decided to remove the unique mining laser from the game by trading it for a Miner II BPO.
This was the first Tech II BPO. It required no special skills and no components to build, only minerals. The copy time was such that it was more efficient to manifacture rather then copy, as it is still with most bpo today. With only one such BPO in game, the holder was making a huge fortune selling Miner II for up to 15mil each, which was a huge amount of money back then.
After a few weeks of this going on, another pilot who ran 200+ level 3 missions was rewarded with it's own Miner II BPO, making it the second in-game.
A bit later, there was an event with a rogue jove general having a battle with other jove ships somewhere in the south. There was an announcement to an upcoming battle and lots of pilots went there. It was said that some of the npc spawns would drop Miner II BPO and other such things. We had gangs in battleships trying to control the field, and we had a lot of solo frigates trying to get their hands on the loot and run away. In this event Tyrell corp foun their Miner II BPO.
More forum drama occured, with whines about possible favoritism (from those who didn't bother to show up for the event and would rather have everything handled to them, rings a bell?).
CCP were trying to introduce Tech II BPO one by one in this manner, with custom storylines and events. Because of the whining they designed the Tech II lottery system that most should know about.
Questions?
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.15 13:43:00 -
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why wont they make whinning a bannable offense? ^^ I'd like more storyline events for such things ^^
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Bean Doodle
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.15 13:55:00 -
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got any pitcures of the T5 miner? it seems cool =P
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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.15 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bean Doodle got any pitcures of the T5 miner? it seems cool =P
Nah I'm at work Maybe check eve-files
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:23:00 -
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First, people used cruiser guns on bs because they were better not because people couldn't afford them.
Second, it was Zombies doing remote rep smartbombing in Yulai. You can watch it in part 2 of drunkenmaster's video. Tank CEO was only using an exploit where CONCORD would only react to security drops. He got to -10 and they stopped reacting.
Third.. actually, most of that is pretty wrong. lols
Even the last line. CCP stopped intervening and interacting because every time they did, the corps that benefited were accused of being CCP favorites. And that whole Miner II fiasco gave a few people an unbreakable, artificial monopoly.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Deorum
Originally by: BiggestT I find the contrast between then and now incredibly interesting, e.g. today fleet battles are much more complex, and strategies are more varied, Tho yesterdays eve seemed much less lag free and more interactive with Players/Developers
I know you, i killed you're Ferox yesterday!   
Nice thread.
OI! That ferox survived 2 months of maxage and evaded 2 DD's, i got 26 kills with that thing. DAMN u i almost got away 
Hehe, but at least it forces me not to be stinghy and fly my old cerb now, a far better km wh*ore if there was one..
Awesome EVE history
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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Third.. actually, most of that is pretty wrong. lols
Even the last line. CCP stopped intervening and interacting because every time they did, the corps that benefited were accused of being CCP favorites. And that whole Miner II fiasco gave a few people an unbreakable, artificial monopoly.
Go ahead and give us your point of view on the third note.
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:42:00 -
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I'm too tired to post about Harvester drones, with the side notes for Elite and Advanced drones. but if someone hasnt updated the thread with details ill edit my post tommorow wit the info.
Umbra Recruitment
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younggunz
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:46:00 -
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I miss mines ;) I used to sit in G-5 in catch back in the day and mine the shit out of the Assah gate haha  |

BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.15 16:02:00 -
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Updated, special thanks so far to.. MotherMoon Joe Synapse Archae Tychus Jaabaa Valrandir
Sorry if I missed anyone, Some recounts are contradicting eachother, I will try to keep the OP as corect as possible..
Awesome EVE history
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Pant Alones
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 16:49:00 -
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You used to be able to online multiple MWD's on a ship and move at LUDICROUS SPEEDS ------------------------
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Black Tahee1
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Posted - 2008.09.17 09:20:00 -
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Quote:
OI! That ferox survived 2 months of maxage and evaded 2 DD's, i got 26 kills with that thing. DAMN u i almost got away 
Hehe, but at least it forces me not to be stinghy and fly my old cerb now, a far better km wh*ore if there was one..
26 kills in 2 months? thats bad for a ferox, i know one guy in max that had 141 kills in a ferox in a month.
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PMolkenthin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.21 22:13:00 -
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What happened to the special events anyway? I remember when myself and Drantis ran into 4 serpentis freighters in Syndicate and they offered us 2b each to escort them to Orvolle.
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Strom Kryos
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.22 00:29:00 -
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If I recall correctly, used to be able to use the plaid speed you got from the multiple mwds to fly to another system, quite slowly I might add. Also my friend that got me into eve said you used to be able to hit warp for set distance? Not sure on that one. The first I got what appeared to be 1/2 way between 2 systems and had to use a bm to get back as I'd run out of cap 4-5 times getting that far.
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fuxinos
Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2008.09.27 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 27/09/2008 12:00:03 one word: stukka raven :D
when torps were long range, u were able to put multiple mwds on raven and have it go very fast, faster then the torpedos.
after a time u had a big ball of torpedos in front of the raven while moving towards ur opponent to give him the ball.
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Lost Hamster
Serenity and Hungarian Operational Team Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lost Hamster on 27/09/2008 19:04:54 The first player generated black hole was created by a Hungarian player in A-1CON system, when he stacked containers inside containers, and in the end he made an endless loop with them. This caused to freeze an entire solar system.
Later they fixed it: patch notes: You cannot place a Planck generator container within another Planck generator, as it will cause a graviton harmonics chain reaction whose end cannot be determined.
Questions?
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CrayC
Gallente CrayC Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:04:00 -
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I love how so much of the original posts got slaughtered by the truth, when the topic says it's all true 
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21 Salvager
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Posted - 2008.09.27 23:20:00 -
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Searching for other mentions online of the Nibelung mining laser found this old thread, which was a fun read: You know when your corpmate is a veteran when...
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Spectre3353
Gallente The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.06 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Black Tahee1
Quote:
OI! That ferox survived 2 months of maxage and evaded 2 DD's, i got 26 kills with that thing. DAMN u i almost got away 
Hehe, but at least it forces me not to be stinghy and fly my old cerb now, a far better km wh*ore if there was one..
26 kills in 2 months? thats bad for a ferox, i know one guy in max that had 141 kills in a ferox in a month.
141 kills in 1 months? thats bad for a ferox, i know one guy in bob that had 71682 kills in a ferox in a week. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/
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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
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Posted - 2008.10.07 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Shan''Talasha Mea''Questa on 07/10/2008 08:40:26 The Yulai-event (back in 2004 when it was 4 jumps from Yulai to every home-system for all the 4 races and therefore EVE's trade-hub no. uno) can be found here.
Linkie
Right here on the site:
2004-03-22 + Zombie attacks Yulai Zombie Corp Sieges Yulai
Author: drunkenmaster | 30907 downloads
Current Rating:
PLAY ˘ 640x480 | .avi | 71.2 Mb
Edit: And I need to get burned alive for not checking the entire thread and thus missing DC's note about this. 
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Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.07 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Orion GUardian why wont they make whinning a bannable offense? ^^ I'd like more storyline events for such things ^^
Sadly, with the demolition of ISD and STAR, you'll never see another storyline event.
Corp and Personal killboard
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Steini OFSI
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.10.07 09:04:00 -
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Yulai event was awesome, choise of weapon was made due to Concord jamming, not 17 bs's, if I remember correctly they were 9 remote repping and cap the obvious choice of ship Apoc, I was there in a hauler to pick up loot if any survived smartbomb hell (duh no) . The rules did not state that this was illegal fyi, those had been read thoroughly before commencing this greatest massacre ever, every person on AP to amarr got annhialated and EVE system first saw local 300+.
What did get us banned was GM's demanding we didn't obey their orders to stop, ofcourse the account running the smartbombs was totally fubarred and unable to do anything and he had to be transferred to get out of laghell.
However, everyone who lost a ship during this event did get them reimbursed.... even Joshua Calvert (only one I really wished for would not get his stuff back excessive forum spammer).
There was also a time there were no insurances and Zombie tanked sentry guns in 0.4 systems below and locked down ships with webs and jammers and would open up a conversation with the pilot and demand ransom in exchange for release (and honored it), haulers weren't offered that choice (goodies in cargo). If ransom could not be extracted they bought the ships (20 mill domis ftw).
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.07 09:38:00 -
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some small corrections:
- zombies is a corp, not a person. and they tanked concord in yulai using RR¦s.
- cruiser weapons once were all there was for BS. After that they rmeained the better option for a while. I used to hunt 55K isk cruiser npc¦s (nothing bigger ingame at the time) using heavy beams on a megathron.
other facts:
- late 2003 there was a "hidden" belt craze. At the time asteroid belts often covered multiple grids in space and no NPC¦s would spawn outside the grid with the belt location ¦flag¦ in it. So you could park a fleet of indies in deep 0.0 in an ark belt and leave them to mine arkonor afk all day untill you came back.
- sutty once podded himself using the eject command, torpedoes and splash damage, we still laugh at him over that one.
- a player called Deathwing once came quite close to assasinating the amarr emperor. The gm¦s still don¦t like him (altho that could have to do his colourfull language too).
- You used to be able to chainspawn npc¦s at an alarming rate untill you ended up just smartbombing one every few seconds at their fixed spawn point. CCP outlawed that, then changed the mechanics.
- ships left in space would sometimes get a will of their own and ended up warping around the system, good for much hilarity.
- NPC convoys in high sec used to drop some awesome goods, like harvester drones or loads of trade goods. Using alts to take the standings hit you could farm them quite well.
- There¦s lots of nice tales surrounding the Jokers corp. RPfng pirates and generally admired.
- before scan probes people scanned down safespots manually, using the ¦create bookmark¦ command midflight and good timing. That led to many a hilarious forum post as well.
maybe more later, got work to do.
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Baldour Ngarr
Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2008.10.07 09:45:00 -
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TankCEO's killing spree in Sarum Prime was down to nothing more than Sarum Prime being a 0.4 security system, and the jump-in point being nowhere near a gate. An awful lot of newbies got send there in missions, and would find themselves in a clone bay before the system had even loaded up. Eventually - and not necessarily just because of Tank's antics - gate-to-gate jumping was introduced; Sarum Prime became 1.0; and ships were cloaked for a minute while the new system loaded up.
His messing about because his sec status was at -10 and therefore never dropping and triggering a CONCORD response, was someplace else. I forget where, but probably Yulai. In the very, very early days, Yulai was a backwater arse-end-of-nowhere place, till the highway came in. ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |

NereSky
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.07 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: NereSky on 07/10/2008 11:44:03 I find it funny how History gets changed to Myth and legend with the telling of each tale
I remember the Hidden treasure of 'Curse Alliance' Rumour that was passed about following the folding of the Alliance, reportably Millions of Mineral M3 went missing and rumours were widespread :)
I miss the days of S.T.A.R and the interactive way CCP joined in with the playerbase,
My most distant memory was Flying in the same gang as Sir Molle (albeit briefly - those were the days when noobs like my self were recruited given a frig and told to get into the fight) during the GNW figting against Phoenix Alliance and Curse Alliance yes believe or not you Guys 'Evolution' flew with the North back then :)
On my older account which sorta lapsed i seem to remember Space Invaders (a pirate corp) running Vale and Tribute lol
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.07 11:50:00 -
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Some interesting stuff. Not 100% accurate in places but still interesting
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Shakari Sween
Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:07:00 -
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<3 bigg, u need to be online more though!
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Haskear
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:27:00 -
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I'm sure the first Domi belonged to RUS corp and they chased M0o around in it (hinting they weren't really good guys anyway.)
-The claim that m0o were intentionally lagging gatecamps with CC's
-The Stain event with the Jove was when (some of the) T2 mining laser Bps got dropped.
-The UBERPIRATE! patch and rollback (oh the tears lolz)
-The Stuck in Station bug
-The "insert random object model" sticking to your ship (planets,stations,Roids, collections of objects) and warping with you.
-Every NPC set to kill Everlasting Vendetta Corp (outside of one system)
-CTD's so often it wasn't funny (before Castor) like every 2 - 8 mins..
-NPC convoys in high sec used to drop all sorts (including thousands of Harvesters at a time) and you could use a cargo scanner on them.
-Mines in space.
-Plans and fantastic stories of for all sorts of amazing things from the devs = Soon(tm) interbus, comets in space, system wide roid belts, black holes, the Jove again.
Its been a trip 
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Kendar
Gallente Disney inc
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:52:00 -
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i remember loosing my first rax and pod to a pirate named Che guevarra it didnt feel right after that cause i was only a clone of myself, the first one is always the hardest
I used to have a nice deal with techhell buing tech2 miners from them for 5mill and reselling for 10mill, earned my first bs with that deal, a megathron!
2 weeks later i lost it to a pirategroup called "polly want a craker" i bet a few remember those guys ^^
i also remember almost loosing a bs to npc when first npc bs was implemented and their ROF was insane. Their missiles made a nice line from them to you
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Kendar
Gallente Disney inc
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Posted - 2008.10.07 12:55:00 -
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Oh and how awesome it was to break the record of 2500 and 5000 players online at the same time it was epic
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