I used to aspire to flying a Titan. Now that CCP have "adjusted" Titans, I have no interest in them anymore. If CCP don't stop nerfing ships, and start intelligently coming up with ways for ships to be improved to counter other ships that are seen as superior, I seriously doubt I will continue to play. EVE should be evolutionary only - there is no excuse for deliberately negatively impacting the capabilities of a ship. That's just distructive.

In the case of Titans, I firmly believe the Doomsday Devices should be restored to their full Area of Effect glory, or Titans will forever more cease to have a role. And I believe there need to be ships with that role in EVE. Titans without the ability to deploy an area of effect superweapon that can take out any and all ships below a certain EHP are not worth having and certainly noone is going to take them into a fight. What use are they now?

For the record, I am opposed to any and all nerfs of any kind to any ship. The only reasonable and believable way for a superior ship to be dealt with is for another ship to be improved in some way to counter it. But if you don't like that Titans can take out any ships near them, don't go near them. The KISS principle applies here.

Go grab a trasher and suicide someone in jita and leave the forums to others thanks.

Simply disdaining or ignoring other players' wishes and views does nothing to engender positive progress in the game. If CCP continues to implement changes to the game that suit a vocal minority who would prefer a bland, uninteresting universe of more or less equal ships which only show distinction by being in larger blobs which win the fight by simple numbers, then players like myself will leave the game never to return. Ultimately, this would mean the game would be populated only by those players who prefer that type of game universe, and the game will suffer. EVE started off with the richness of variety, in roles, sizes, techniques, weaponry and tactics. This is what attracted me to the game. Without all that, the game isn't worth the money I'm paying for my four accounts. I would be better off elsewhere, and while you may believe that would be no loss, when you have noone else to fight but the likes of yourselves, you may wish for the days when there was a bit more variety. And CCP may wish for the days when they had a lot more subscribers.

There would be others who believe otherwise, and like me, see AOE Doomsdays as one of the things that made the game more interesting.

It's just not reasonable to think that a ship like a Titan would not have an AoE weapon of some sort - every other size of ship does, why not a Titan.

How to counter 30 titans.... I dunno, 40 titans? I don't know and I don't really care. There is an answer for anything, and just because I don't know it, and more importantly, you don't know it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or that there's a problem. If 40 titans is the answer and you can't field 40 titans, that's your problem, not the game's.

You're still missing my point. There are ways to balance the game without nerfing things like AoE DDs and the titans that wield them. I've already suggested a way to do this that would work quite well, if CCP had the nerve and will to do it. It would allow AoE DDs back in the game and still let swarms of little ships survive them, at least long enough to limp away, if they shouldn't be there in the first place. You don't like AoE DDs or titans, I get that. It doesn't make them wrong. I am firmly on the side of CCP keeping some integrity in the game, that's all.

And yet again, I have to emphasise I'm not talking about any specific experience in the game, just the concept that the game should be nerfed to suit people who have a specific gripe about something. In a way, the idea that I am "unqualified to talk about nullsec in any context" is a benefit to me, because I can see this for what it is without the problem of being too close to it.

Not by itself, no. It's the principle of leaving the game fundamentally alone except for incremental evolutionary changes I'm on about.

arbitrary artificial limits to the abilities of certain weapons

Nope. I'm trying to get the Devs to stop doing that. It's a negative thing. It doesn't make any sort of sense in a logical world. Of course, one could say that the world of EVE isn't a logical world, and that's fine if people like that. I don't have to deal with it, I can vote with my feet. Or they can stop nerfing the game. Their choice.

Yes, exactly. One real-dollar subscription won't make any difference. Even the four I currently have won't make much difference either. But they had better hope that there aren't a lot more players like me out there that are hitherto silently putting up with the vandalism happening to the game at the hands of CCP at the behest of the vocal minorities. In any case, you will eventually have the game the way you like it, I'm sure.

How about the DD is 1/100 of the damage, 1/100 of the cycle time, and AOE? That would mostly complete the fix to Titans as far as I can see it.

dumb ppl shouldnt be talking dumb ****

But to be honest, I wouldn't shed a tear if DD's disappeared and Siege became available to Titans instead. Yes, CCP, we need DD's gone, and until then, they must be limited to structures and other non-moving, non-ship things. Please CCP, give Titans the Siege module and remove the DD.

Titans need a revamp of their roles. That's neither a buff nor a nerf. One role they could fill is as the counter to subcap blobs. Give them tracking bonuses for blapping, and make the doomsday more like a giant smartbomb. Balance wise this clearly won't work unless cyno mechanics are simultaneously addressed. If cynos were given mass limits, most of the "problems" people have with supercaps become non-issues. It doesn't matter how much EHP a titan has, as long as his 300 friends can't come and save him within 5 minutes from the other side of EVE. It doesn't matter how good a titan is at blapping subcaps, as long as you're only fighting one of them and not a blob of 300.