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Splash Whale Ctrl-Q Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.16 09:33:00 - [31] If you want to PvP in the thorax dont let yourself get disencouraged by people saying you need more skills for it. The thorax is an excellent lowskill PvP cruiser. If you have drones lvl5 you are better off in a vexor tho. but to come to a cheap and effective thorax fitting for the lower skilled: 5x Medium Ions T1 1x MWD 1x point 1x web 2x Mag Stab 1x 800mm plate 1x reactor control 1x small armor rep I used to have a damage control in the slot of the small armor rep but I figured out/got convinced that a small armor repair is better used in there. If you are low on skills you are not going to kill anything else then even bigger noobs then yourself. You just kill your nooby opponent and gtfo. The armor repper will make sure you dont have to dock up to repair your ship if you got global criminal. The thorax is an excellent ship if fitted correctly. Skills mean f-all if you're just using T1 anyways. If 3/4 of the people have read the thread in the wrong way and you're asking for a setup just to kill belt rats, then just get a vexor since they are much better at that. ---- When in doubt, Ctrl-Q.
Danirus	Posted - 2008.09.16 11:02:00 - [32] I can't quite fly this setup yet, but I'm definately working on it (lack t2 hybrids atm) This is a very tight fit with all fitting skills lvl V and 2 hardwiring implants (relatively cheap tho) Zainou 'Gnome' KZA1000 + Zainou 'Gypsy' KMB-25 5x Heavy Neutron Blaster II x5 (Void M) Y-T8 Overcharged (MWD) Fleeting Propulsion (webber) J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor Damage Control II True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Magnetic Field Stabilizer II x2 400mm Rolled Tungsten Ancillary Current Router x2 Capacitor Control Circuit 452 dps without drones, 1390 Alpha.
Lubomir Penev	Posted - 2008.09.16 13:46:00 - [33] Originally by: AstroPhobic [Thorax, Solorax] (best rax setup) Switch the ECM drones for explosive drones for defense/gangs. To add to that in a gang if there is a chance of you getting remote rep drop a MFS for an EANM II in that setup. It will make the remote repping much more efficient. -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.09.16 13:48:00 - [34] 'Big Plate/Small Gun' Thorax fits were very popular and successful before the HP buff we saw last year. Their DPS was low, but it was still enough to chew through most targets before they could get through your plate. Now that everything has higher EHP, you really need the damage bonus to medium guns, even if you're packing Electrons, to be viable. Also, if you're relying mainly on your drones for damage, you're flying the wrong ship. Thorax drone DPS is nothing to sneeze at to be sure, but there are much better drone boats out there. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.09.16 13:54:00 - [35] Originally by: Inventus Mechanicus Originally by: AstroPhobic [Thorax, Solorax] 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Vespa EC-600 x5 Switch the ECM drones for explosive drones for defense/gangs. Read no further. ^^ This. Indeed. -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
flashsplat Gallente Free Collective Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.09.16 17:04:00 - [36] Originally by: Bronson Hughes 'Big Plate/Small Gun' Thorax fits were very popular and successful before the HP buff we saw last year. Their DPS was low, but it was still enough to chew through most targets before they could get through your plate. Now that everything has higher EHP, you really need the damage bonus to medium guns, even if you're packing Electrons, to be viable. Also, if you're relying mainly on your drones for damage, you're flying the wrong ship. Thorax drone DPS is nothing to sneeze at to be sure, but there are much better drone boats out there. Never been killed by a vexor either ;) I stand by the setup i quoted (as well as the other Small blaster setup posted). Even after the HP buff.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.09.16 17:14:00 - [37] Originally by: Bronson Hughes you really need the damage bonus to medium guns, even if you're packing Electrons, to be viable. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
Bronson Hughes ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.09.16 17:54:00 - [38] Originally by: Spectre3353 Originally by: Bronson Hughes you really need the damage bonus to medium guns, even if you're packing Electrons, to be viable. Wrong. Let's compare two similar builds: both with 1600mm plates, one with 2x MFS, an RCU II, and 5x Heavy Electrons IIs, and one with 3x MFS and 5x Light Neutrons IIs. All other modules (DCU, mids, drones) will be identical so they'll handle the same and have the same EHP. Incidently, I've flown both of these exact setups although I now prefer a gankier fit that lacks a plate. EFT DPS (assuming my skills, CN AM Ammo) Light Neutrons: 270 Heavy Electrons: 348 Range Light Neutrons: 1080+3000 Heavy Electrons: 1440+3600 Tracking Light Neutrons: 0.3798 Heavy Electrons: 0.1440 Cap Usage (guns only) Light Neutrons: ~4 Heavy Electrons: ~6 The Heavy Electron fit has a distinct edge in terms of DPS and range. Against frigate-sized targets, the higher tracking on the Light Neutrons comes into play, but there is such a big difference in the raw DPS that it won't help you out enough as long as you keep your target webbed. The Light Neutron fit also uses less cap, but both fits are easily cap stable with a point, web, and guns running. The only time that Light Neutrons will win out over Heavy Electrons is if you're building a fit without a web; in that situation, the extra tracking really saves you. But I'm not sure why anyone would ever fit a blaster-boat without a web. So maybe saying that the Light Neutron fit 'wasn't viable' was a bit much, but a Heavy Electron fit does tend to out-perform it both according to EFT and my personal experience. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Arcon Telf Gallente Dark Tide Rising Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.09.16 18:09:00 - [39] Originally by: Bronson Hughes So maybe saying that the Light Neutron fit 'wasn't viable' was a bit much, but a Heavy Electron fit does tend to out-perform it both according to EFT and my personal experience. No, it really wasn't a bit much, because a light neutron fit really is not viable - at least not against a competent opponent. Flying a Thorax and relying on drones for DPS is a major paradox, and also not a good idea. T2 mediums / tackle / buffer / magstabs, and ECM drones. That is all.
TC wabbajack	Posted - 2008.09.16 19:44:00 - [40] I don't like starting new threads when there is one open,I also need some pointers on equipping my thorax.I'm 17 day old veteran of eve, my set up currently atm PVP is not really something I willing to risk I'm mainly mission running and ratting in high sec (tbh I'm breezing through the lvl1 missions) but I'd like to know what skills & equipment I should be aiming for long term thanks [URL=http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bannerxx6.jpg][/URL]

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