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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:00:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:As much as I disagreed with what occurred, once I'd stated my position on this I left it there for the situation to be dealt with. This is simply petty and vindictive, lashing out because you have an axe to grind and undermines any legitimate concerns that may have been put forward.
Alex could have been a lot more diplomatic in his approach on the matter that's caused this uproar, this is just childish and self serving.
Yeah not like there isnt some Karmic justice playing out here for all the horrible things that Mittani and the goons have done playing out or anything. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:14:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.
You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.
Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.
And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.
If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.
Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.
Lynch mob mentality.
Jesus ******* christ.
Nope not lynch mob mentality
Lynch mob mentality is saying lets go harasses this guy until he kills himself for real. "OH i was just joking, even though hes dead I didnt really meant it. ""I was jut going along with eveyone else officer" would have been the next tag line and CCP closing its doors due to criminal investigations. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:35:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Nope not lynch mob mentality
Lynch mob mentality is saying lets go harasses this guy until he kills himself for real. "OH i was just joking, even though hes dead I didnt really meant it. ""I was jut going along with eveyone else officer" would have been the next tag line and CCP closing its doors due to criminal investigations. Mittens' exact words: "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is" I highlighted three words. At the very worst you could say he was releasing information that would facilitate in-game harassment, which means he was giving someone else the means to violate the TOS, but in doing so violates no law himself. But here's the thing: he never actually says "go and harass the guy." I know facts are inconvenient to you buttercup (and your anti mittens rhetoric before the elections was all over the place, BTW) but you can't simply put words into someone's mouth and expect him to be punished on what YOU keep saying he said, despite it being a falsehood. So yes, making something up, spreading it around and trying to force action against it based on lies is a pretty good modern definition of a lynch mob / witch hunt.
You first off dont know a damn thing about a lunch mob.
And what you highlighted is clear proof of im inciting violence against another player.
And in the context of him being suicide.
In that context he meant to harass someone until they killed themselves in real life.
Completely unforgivable conduct for any CSM member let alone the chair. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:44:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:Vorlain wrote:[quote=Khanh'rhh]Problem is he crossed over the boundary of whats acceptable in our online reality and into our real lives Based on whose interpretation, of what law? I will remind you that there are many, many controversial political pundits, politicians, journalists and comedians who have said a lot worse than this. You may want to note: none are in jail. This would be because it is not illegal to offend someones taste of decency. If Mittens had stood there and said: - I want this guy dead, make it happen - Here is his in game name, find him and make him die - I am not joking, he should actually die Or anything of the sort, I would NOT be defending the man. I am defending him because words matter. I am defending him because context matters. I am defending him because the allegations being made against him are wholly inaccurate, are lies, or are intentionally worded in a manner which leaves the wrong impression DESPITE his actual comments being publicly view-able by all.
He was inciting people to basically murder another person through internet harassment. Just that is enough.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:57:00 -
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Vorlain wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:You may want to note: none are in jail. ...I am defending him. Well first of you are wrong plan and simple plenty of people have been jailed for inciting hate crimes, including inciting others to cause harm. Plenty of Political figures have also lost their jobs and faced criminal proceeding over similar gaffes. The loud and manic manner is which he proclaimed "Find HIM" is a clear direction to cause harm. Lets be clear no one has taken office as the presentation itself mocking this person, the offense is of the declaration to cause this person harm. Which is quite illegal in many many countries including the US and Iceland. I suggest you actually do a bit of research on that score. The context you also need to focus on a bit is the fact this isn't joe average or some shock jock who doesn't claim to represent anyone other then themselves. This is the CSM Chairmen who stands up and says I keep CCP accountable and I represent the entire player base. but really we can cut all that out, you say you are defending him and that is your right, but have you stopped to consider that mittani himself has clearly come out and said it's not defensible? Maybe he just understands the higher virtues in play then his would be defenders.
You should not be under the impression that he actually seeks to learn and understand why what Alex did was so bad. He has no interest in the truth. He is part of the goon cult mind as near as i can tell.
And liang yes i do think he didnt care that he would cause possible IRL harm to someone. Thats why he needs to step down from the CSM now. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:06:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:RougeOperator wrote: And liang yes i do think he didnt care that he would cause possible IRL harm to someone. Thats why he needs to step down from the CSM now.
He absolutely did step over a line. That's why he needed to issue an apology - which he did. People like you are willing to burn Eve to the ground in an effort to destroy someone whose real name you actually know. If anyone is guilty of harassment.... its you. -Liang
How so. lay it on me. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:09:00 -
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Yeah Im sure the goons took it the same way you did.
Not to mention other pets and sycophants that would do it just to say "LOL i did what you said Mittens."
We are talking about a known quality of person that is the GOON player and friends. Known behavior and actions as well.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 01:56:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Bibosikus wrote: Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..
I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it). -Liang
No seriously you back that Crap up right now Liang.
I will report them myself if you can show me these posts.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.28 02:24:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Bibosikus wrote: Definitely not fine, that's despicable and those people should certainly be called out. Where are these threats of personal violence though? I haven't seen any..
I've seen them scattered through various threads. Read the forums more (if you can bear it). -Liang No seriously you back that Crap up right now Liang. I will report them myself if you can show me these posts. The mods have been busy deleting those kinds of posts.
Ive been following all these threads closely and didnt see any like that talking about the mittani. Though i saw lots of goons saying what liang applies about anyone saying anything against the mittani or goons before they were pulled. Maybe liang just needs an eye exam. |
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