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WolfeReign T.O.R. STR8NGE BREW 1	Posted - 2012.03.28 04:49:00 - [31] - Quote This game is a sandbox so don't go expecting the devs to fly as your personal escort just because of some gankers. If you have a problem just set up a trap and kill the gankers
Clyde ElectraGlide Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 86	Posted - 2012.03.28 04:58:00 - [32] - Quote It's incredibly easy to avoid being ganked in a hulk. Fit it right, align to a celestial and pay attention, and you'll be safe. Of course there's a high chance of you getting ganked when you AFK mine in a .5/.6 system. Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460
Savion Chastis Golden Sail Enterprises 3	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:05:00 - [33] - Quote Perhaps you could, oh I don't know, maybe hook up with other like minded individuals with the same vendetta and strike out upon the sandbox and start creating some content. You obviously have a knack for finding problems. Why don't you use that knack in finding solutions. One could easily rationalize that the lack of players willing to participate in the sandbox are just as harmful to the game in the long run as the "griefers". Are people so spoonfed these days that they have to isolate themselves and cut off any kind of "hostile" interaction with people to enjoy themselves? **** dude no wonder some people aren't having any fun ...
Ricardo Aguti Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 11	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:12:00 - [34] - Quote I will reimburse you loses, but i will need a 500mil security deposit. Alternately, you can give me your stuff.
Kriegman Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation 22	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:17:00 - [35] - Quote TravisWB wrote: Sadly, this game has degenerated into a hisec griefest. Just look at this KB record. This isn't PVP, this isn't antibot. It is griefing pure and simple. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=18178&m=3&y=2012 The above is the second account of this player: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=216803&m=3&y=2012 If CCP can't see that there is a problem here, this game is in trouble. This is just one player griefing a single system. Multiply this by a few score more just like him and you might begin to understand why entire regions are now devoid of miners. EVE, nothing but grief. I see a problem, too many damn Hulks. I'm pro Rock coalition, death to all miners.... yeah
Ismol Mond Hedion University Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:29:00 - [36] - Quote What I cannot stand about players like the OP (if this is a legit post?) is rather than adapt to the game these type players run to the devs in the hopes of having the game adapt to them. I can't blame them for trying. Every mmorpg so far from EQ to SWTOR has catered to their whines and created games with the worst common denominator and thus we have pointless fluff games that are all dying on the vine and killing the genre to boot. Thankfully CCP has not given in completely to these game destroying whiners as of yet, and still Eve keeps growing. And how pathetic the WoW crowd has become as of late!! Running to Sony of all companies to try and "save" Eve. Whining about a non-issue at fanfest to try and subvert a pro pvp player rep. etc. etc. One good thing about the op in this atmosphere. He at least has the balls to admit he sucks at the game and wants the rules changed rather than going about it in a pathetic roundabout manner. I just wish he'd try and get better at this game rather than trying to turn it into every game already out there.
Jonah Gravenstein 66	Posted - 2012.03.28 05:48:00 - [37] - Quote All those hulks are woefully fitted, I'm a carebear, one of my characters is a hulk pilot and I would never leave station in a hulk fitted like those examples. If you're going to afk mine, in a 200 million isk +ship fit a proper tank you morons, not doing so is akin to parking your nice shiny new car in the local shithole area of town and then not locking the doors Fitting for max yield and cargo is a false economy, it ends up costing you more in replacement ships than you mine When Carebears attack is an awesome video that shows what can happen if you poke a miner too hard. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside.
Cap Tyrian Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance 17	Posted - 2012.03.28 06:26:00 - [38] - Quote No OP has a point, this is not PVP its pure harassment, i find such behavior disgusting! There is no Honor in his actions, and ruining the game play experience for people like me who Love eve for its Industrial aspects. The awesome Sandbox, mining, constructing, trading. Certainly destruction must be in that cycle but that should not involve those who do not wish for conflict. Suicide ganking in high-sec is not PvP, it is completely one sided. I can not support such actions. Shame on those gankers, you have no Honor. Greetings, Cap Tyrian
Doctor Eezee GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 98	Posted - 2012.03.28 06:32:00 - [39] - Quote Isn't it amazing, that you can't differentiate between trolls and actual miners? Don't be so stupid and go afk mining with a horrible fitted Hulk and expect to live. If you are actually serious. Get a proper fit, mine only in 1.0 and don't be afk and you won't die. Easy enough. "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Smoke Adian 11	Posted - 2012.03.28 07:03:00 - [40] - Quote Sooo... you guys have the best income source in the game (I just went from 90m to 1b since Sat. w/ incursions - more than I've ever made in 0,0 in that timespan), the safest region of space, AND you also believe you should be invulnerable. Okay.
Rico Minali Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 436	Posted - 2012.03.28 07:04:00 - [41] - Quote It isnt griefing, it is helping the marketing sector sell hulks. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Ch3244 Azule Dragoons Sspectre 4	Posted - 2012.03.28 07:10:00 - [42] - Quote Rico Minali wrote: It isnt griefing, it is helping the marketing sector sell hulks. economics 101
Sable Moran Moran Light Industries 32	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:35:00 - [43] - Quote Aranakas wrote: Miners are just playing the game the way they were intended to. They have no recourse for this sort of action. Anyways, next expansion this will change. Wishful thinking at it's finest. You must be new to EvE. Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene.
Xen Solarus Inner 5phere 83	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:54:00 - [44] - Quote Why go to the part of eve where PvP is allowed and encouraged? Oh yeah, thats right, targets in high-sec don't shoot back. Oh and its pretty much risk-free isk. Gankers can't handle "actual" PvP, its as simple as that. Why bother when you can make yourself feel awesome with all those defenceless kills? Forcing PvP onto those not interested in it, as well as newer players, is ultimately harming eve's continued development. What incentive do carebears and new players have to naturally move to low and null sec? They're already getting pwned in high by people collecting tears for their own amusement. I for one believe that eve has two sides, equally important, PvP and PvE. Whatever side players get their enjoyment should be respected. PvP players have most of the galaxy to do their thing, and PvE players are happy in empire doing all those boring things, mining, hauling, making stuff, playing with spreadsheets etc. Thats what makes eve so awesome, that it is vast in its application, and people can get from it what they put in, and what they enjoy. Never quite understood this vendeta that many PvP players have towards carebears, other than as i stated they don't shoot back. Personally, i think gankers have forced the issue. I now welcome and look forward to changes that make their life increasingly difficult. They might actually have to, "GASP!", fight people that fight back? OMG! Of course, my opinion changes instantly if they actually fix the bounty system, but i think we all know by now thats never going to happen. Having a possible responce to ganking for players with no interest in PvP would justify ganking imo.
Karim alRashid Aliastra Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:56:00 - [45] - Quote TravisWB wrote: Sadly, this game has degenerated into a hisec griefest. EVE, nothing but grief. Just quit. The fault is with your expectations, not with the game.
Nirnias Stirrum Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD. 38	Posted - 2012.03.28 08:59:00 - [46] - Quote On behalf of Ore Mongers i would officially like to welcome the OP to Eve Online!
Karim alRashid Aliastra Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:03:00 - [47] - Quote Xen, if they are bad at PvP, why don't you do something about it, like destroy their ships? Is it because you're even worse?
Bubanni SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353 192	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:11:00 - [48] - Quote I am feeling like ganking some hulks the next few days :) hmm
Psychotic Monk The Skunkworks 195	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:14:00 - [49] - Quote Bubanni wrote: I am feeling like ganking some hulks the next few days :) hmm I'm giving away prizes for that. Go check C&P for the Crime Spree thread!
Memrox Memrox Corp 8	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:17:00 - [50] - Quote Right im placing a bounty on the OP's head, I want him ganked until more tears flow, 10mil for every kill and once you make 15 kills you get the 500mil Bonus Prize. Let the games begin!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5826	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:18:00 - [51] - Quote Aranakas wrote: Miners are just playing the game the way they were intended to. So are the gankers. Quote: They have no recourse for this sort of action. Anyways, next expansion this will change. No. Next expansion will leave them with the exact same recourses that they have now, which they will still refuse to use. TravisWB wrote: Just what can a Hulk do when these griefers show up? Pay attention, don't go AFK, tank your ship. It works. Also, stay aligned. Cap Tyrian wrote: No OP has a point, this is not PVP its pure harassment, i find such behavior disgusting! There is no Honor in his actions, and ruining the game play experience for people like me who Love eve for its Industrial aspects. The awesome Sandbox, mining, constructing, trading. Humour. Nice one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Anya Ohaya School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 97	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:20:00 - [52] - Quote Never mind the bollocks. Buy Tritanium.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 5826	Posted - 2012.03.28 09:27:00 - [53] - Quote Xen Solarus wrote: Why go to the part of eve where PvP is allowed and encouraged? You mean to highsec? Quote: Forcing PvP onto those not interested in it, as well as newer players, is ultimately harming eve's continued development. GÇªso much so that they are incorporating that facet of the game into their marketing campaign. Quote: What incentive do carebears and new players have to naturally move to low and null sec? They're already getting pwned in high by people collecting tears for their own amusement. You'd think that moving the low and null wouldn't be so bad as many claim, then. Quote: I for one believe that eve has two sides, equally important, PvP and PvE. Nah. It has two sides: combat and industry. Both are PvP. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Severe Pain Never Ask Why 0	Posted - 2012.03.28 11:55:00 - [54] - Quote Hi guys! Me and my corpmates do get quite a lot of feedback of what we are doing. Some are positive, but most of them are obviously kinda negative :) Some say that what we do isn't PVPing or that we suck in PVP and that is why we are only ganking "hopeless" miners. Some say that they have reported me because of hacking and being a bot, so maybe Im just way too effective to being a normal player :) But anyway...I will not start debating or lecturing which aspects I would category as PVPing. I've been playing EVE for 7 years. I've been ganking miners for 2 weeks. That is what is fun for me at the moment. It is just one of those few aspect of this game which I haven't explored before. It is allowed by CCP and by game mechanics. CCP has designed this MMORG some what differently than other MMORGs and EVE only have one server cluster where every player can do whatever they want. Oh, and I don't hate carebears or miners or huggers or roids or trees...There isn't any personal vendetta behind what I do. So Iam rather nice guy, even though I shoot your pixel ship with my pixel guns. Maybe it is time to form some "rock hugging" organization to defend all those poor roids from destruction. Free all roid, they have feelings too :) Fly safe and have fun, SP
gfldex 408	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:01:00 - [55] - Quote TravisWB wrote: It is griefing pure and simple. No, it's profitable. Lets burn down Carebears-Online and rise Everlasting-Fun-Online from it's ashes.
Danny John-Peter The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 75	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:04:00 - [56] - Quote They invented this new tactic for not dieing a while back, its called fitting a tank. Try it.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE 489	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:11:00 - [57] - Quote Cap Tyrian wrote: No OP has a point, this is not PVP its pure harassment, i find such behavior disgusting! There is no Honor in his actions, and ruining the game play experience for people like me who Love eve for its Industrial aspects. The awesome Sandbox, mining, constructing, trading. Certainly destruction must be in that cycle but that should not involve those who do not wish for conflict. Suicide ganking in high-sec is not PvP, it is completely one sided. I can not support such actions. Shame on those gankers, you have no Honor. Greetings, Cap Tyrian Haha. Btw I think the word you were looking for was honoUr. shiptoastin' liek a baws
Kyle Yanowski Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 38	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:18:00 - [58] - Quote Sokniw wrote: they can warp away.. eve is like real life, who is to stop anyone from doing anything.. concord is there to enforce.. he kills a hulk.. he looses his ship. you rob a bank you go to jail.. The original poster has a point. You, however, are misguided. A hulk can,t warp away, because of the hulks terrible align time and acceleration. And a hulk cannot tank an overheated catalyst.... No matter the tank configuration. Bottom line, since the catalyst revisions, they are now the #1 ship of choice for highsec ganking. This was an oversight, and it should be addressed.
Plaude Pollard Aliastra Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:18:00 - [59] - Quote I don't Suicide Gank Hulks myself, mostly because I don't have the ISK or SP to pull it off without losing my ship, but some of those Hulks... They are in a better place now. That is, not in their owners' hangars. It's amazing how one can fail to outfit a ship for the one task it exists for.
Kyle Yanowski Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 38	Posted - 2012.03.28 12:22:00 - [60] - Quote [quote=Danny John-Peter]They invented this new tactic for not dieing a while back, its called fitting a tank. Try it.[/] Feller. Go sit in . 5 with your tanked hulk, aligned to a station, but stationary [ so you can actually mine rock] and see how long you last.

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