World Shaping
Stargates are now named solely for their destination. This means it will now display 'Destination' rather than 'Stargate(destination)'.

WHY ?

Reason is probably that you can see destination name without needing wide Name-column.

Sort by type in scanner now because going byt he name will indeed not work at all.

Reason is probably that you can see destination name without needing wide Name-column.

soo.... stargates will not longer be grouped if I sort by name.... nice... that's handy

WHY ?

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

Nope, I was more hoping that people would confuse my ship with a stargate when skimming through their d-scan.

So all in all, the change is probably welcome by most. I myself dislike it because it will probably affect my possibility to ambush people. But that's just me really.

I myself dislike it because it will probably affect my possibility to ambush people. But that's just me really.

Nope, I was more hoping that people would confuse my ship with a stargate when skimming through their d-scan.

So all in all, the change is probably welcome by most. I myself dislike it because it will probably affect my possibility to ambush people. But that's just me really.

Or you could, you know, just rename your ships?

You should use a bracket or some kind of identifier for sorting this column so that stargates stay near each other when sorting the column.

Or did you think of this and just mask the word stargate?

This makes me very happy.

Reason is probably that you can see destination name without needing wide Name-column.

K, now do that same thing for station names please, they're the main reason for me to have a wide name column.

Could be simplified to [planet number]/[moon number] [station name]. No need for the planet name (since they're always named after the system) or the word "moon".

GASP!

FAN-F*CKING-TASTIC

GASP!

FAN-F*CKING-TASTIC

soo.... stargates will not longer be grouped if I sort by name.... nice... that's handy

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

Did I just interpret this correctly in that you made this change because of technical clarity rather than usability studies or UAT which pointed towards a necessary change to make the game more playable or the UI better from a player's perspective?

You have stargates on your overview?

Nope, I was more hoping that people would confuse my ship with a stargate when skimming through their d-scan.

So all in all, the change is probably welcome by most. I myself dislike it because it will probably affect my possibility to ambush people. But that's just me really.

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

FWIW, design asked for/approved this change (depending on which timeline you're following), on the basis that having the interesting bit of information at the end of a text string in a limited-column-width situation wasn't very helpful.

Many people[citation needed] had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing.

I think people might pay more attention to a ship with a single name like Jita or Rens than Stargate (Jita) or Stargate (Rens).

99% sure about that.

So it would be :

Bloodpetal
CCP Goliath
Crielere
Dog Dingit
Blam Blapper.

It's like it doesn't happen now, because there aren't any players with names starting with S all the way through Z.

Every time I seen a ship named Stargate (system name), it annoyed hell out of me.

I guess mainly because there must be some people out there dumb enough to fall for it, otherwise people would stop doing it

No but you see, I really liked to name my ships : Stargate (Jita) etc.

I swear to you that it confuses the **** out of people who just make a quick d-scan and don't pay attention to much.

More than once I have been able to drop unnanouced on someone thanks to that.

FWIW, design asked for/approved this change (depending on which timeline you're following), on the basis that having the interesting bit of information at the end of a text string in a limited-column-width situation wasn't very helpful.

Not sure if serious or not.

Stargate :
( Crielere )
or
< Crielere >

And it's not CCP's fault that some peeveepee-ers are scrubs and fail at overview (really, stargates and stations in the filters that you use for your "pvp" tab..?

and what about goind ahead and name things like this :

Station :
[ IV-3 Spacelane Patrol Logistics Support ]

or alteratively, since Roman numbers don't sort well :
[ 4-3 Spacelane Patrol Logistics Support ]

FWIW, design asked for/approved this change (depending on which timeline you're following), on the basis that having the interesting bit of information at the end of a text string in a limited-column-width situation wasn't very helpful.

And here I have been using the Navigation overview setting for the last few years: just stargates and stations.

Rather than sorting by type, sort by icon. Then the next destination in your autopilot route will show up on top because it is yellow.

Swear people will cry about ANYTHING. Make a gate filter and new tab on your overview if its such a big deal and then shut up.

(in hindsight i probably realize 75% of eve idiots still don't know how to make a filter properly reason being alliance blobbers or empire dwellers)

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

That is actually quite simple to do and we could easily retain the system names in search results to facilitate station search by systemID.

Awesome change. Long overdue and very welcome.

It seems someone at CCP failed to anticipate all the ways that people use their overviews.

New:

Jita

Old:

Stargate (Jita)

Better:

SG - Jita

edit: as I understand it stations will soon (if they aren't already...w-space means never going weeks without seeing stations) be called "4-4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant" instead of "Jita IV Moon 4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant." This is a good change. A bad change would be removing the planet/moon reference entirely. Which is basically what was done with stargates.

Sort by type in scanner now because going byt he name will indeed not work at all.

Many people had expressed their desire to return back to the old, pre first attempt at localization, representation of stargate names which is what we are doing. I jumped at it because I dislike having an icon for a type on the overview and then the typeName in both the itemName and the typeName fields.

Are there any specific areas where you think you could confuse a stargate name with a solar system name without having any other visual context to differentiate between them? I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

I already posted that idea 1 or 2 pages before and made a thread for it in the features & ideas section:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87714

Please also express your support there! =)

Can you tell me how it is more helpful for you ? What is this brilliant awsomeness ?

World Shaping
Stargates are now named solely for their destination. This means it will now display 'Destination' rather than 'Stargate(destination)'.


WHY ?

Thinner columns on my overview means more space for... space. I love common-sense fixes like this.

[fun]
Because it makes sense, you already know it's a gate right? -
[/fun]

I'd be more than willing to look into it once everything is good and stable.

and what about goind ahead and name things like this :

Station :
[ IV-3 Spacelane Patrol Logistics Support ]

or alteratively, since Roman numbers don't sort well :
[ 4-3 Spacelane Patrol Logistics Support ]


Stargate :
( Crielere )
or
< Crielere >


Asteroids :
* Veldspar *


...

You get the idea.
It allows to easily read what type the object is with only a character. There is plenty of characters available and if needed, you can set up "double char" marking. Like :
|> Crielere <|




I already use this kind of marking to name my bookmarks and it's pretty useful to tell instantly the difference between :
- the sniping BM off gate: >> Crielere @230
- the scanning BM off grid: -(( Crielere @1AU
- the tactical BM: |- Crielere @80
... not to mention temp safes, safes unaligned, deep safes, scanning safes.... :)

(@80 means the BM is 80km from the gate)

What are these "Stargates" that you speak off?

I am convinced that this was suggested by those that DO want to name their ships "XXXXXX (Stargate)" to fool others during NullBear fisticuffs.

I knew this would turn out to be a NullBear suggestion.........really. Not trying to be funny here.

The Overview is dangerous to rely on now, and microseconds wasted looking for the stargates there amongst the other text and CIRCLE ICONS.

Just WOW.

I wish I could get back the microseconds I spent reading your incoherent yippity yap.

Read some Mass Attack: "Through the constant harassment over the years the high-sec player can really no longer be termed the carebear. These guys have taken beating after beating and you know what, they're still there, truckin along.

You think high-sec-carebear cares? High-sec-carebear is craaaaaazy, he don't give a ****. "

Doubtful, but I am expecting you asshats to do another mass exodus out of here when the next hulkageddon is.

Anything other than a distance sort is unhelpful.

This makes me very happy.

Ok, this redacting of the "Stargate" text from the name is ********. Who's bright idea was this?
The texts are mixing and you have to do a split-second double-take to confirm that's it's really a stargate - not a person, not anything else.

Prefix it back to what it was before please. Stargates need to stand out.

Kind of a ring thing, comes with a dialer, you hit the symbols, it spins around and lights come on, it kind of flushes sideways...

Why?

They do. When you sort by Icon.

No, what made you think that? I asked specifically for use cases where this could be confusing due to lack of other contextual identifiers...

22:24:32 - Ibeau Renoir is in position at Hek

Problematic Broadcasts:
... //snip goodness here
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Just chiming in to say that I like the new format since it allows me to narrow the overview which frees up some real estate on my monitor.

Narrow it the width of TWO parenthesis ?? Give us all a break...and some credit.

No, you nimrod,

Ya know....
I'm just reporting this crap.

F U

HTFU a little bit more, pumpkin.

You need to grow up. Nimrod ? Pumpkin ? You need to GTFO.

Reported.

Please, blame me and pod me if they ban you.

What would also be useful is to configure multiple layers of sorting, so sort by type, and then by name?

Narrow it the width of TWO parenthesis ?? Give us all a break...and some credit.

You have stargates on your overview?

How else are you going to use the 'a' 's' and 'd' shortcuts for them?

What would also be useful is to configure multiple layers of sorting, so sort by type, and then by name?